Giantbomb : The Upgraded PlayStation 4 is Codenamed NEO, Contains Upgraded CPU, GPU, RAM - UPDATED (Elaborated by DF)

No shit Sherlock. It can't do 4K native with those anemic specs.

This is to get an extra bump in resolution and fps for future PS4 games (1080p instead of maybe 900p and 30fps instead of 20fps).

I bet it could do some 4K indie games.

Day fucking one. Just take my money already.

The Xboner is going to be put on life support...it's barely clinging to life as it is. Could be the final nail in the coffin.

Can't wait to hear Phil damage control this. Nya meltdown imminent.

You're an idiot, a GPU with 4 TFLOPS will be severely bottle-necked with that tablet APU Sony is using.

@hitmanactual said:

Day fucking one. Just take my money already.

The Xboner is going to be put on life support...it's barely clinging to life as it is. Could be the final nail in the coffin.

Can't wait to hear Phil damage control this. Nya meltdown imminent.

I am selling my Xbone! Are you sure Scalebound is going to get a PC port?

the best information there is that there will be zero allowed exclusive software or content for the Neo, as in ps4 owners won't be excluded from any content.

I have my doubts that Sony would actually stick to that for a significant amount of time, much less a whole gen. I would also be worried about some Ps4 versions playing absolutely awfully, where the game might as well be called a Neo exclusive. Still, Sony gets more points than Nintendo already, who have software for the New 3DS that won't play on a 3DS

Yeah, I'm sure armchair chip designers like you know more than Mark Cerny, the guy who invented the legendary PS4 SoC.

Oh I hadn't seen the earlier thread. Good I guees, I'm still keeping this ps4 I got. Nothing worth until I see a price tag and if older games get patched.

So Sony is going to fragment their own userbase then. That's smart.

R9-290 can do 4K games at console's frame rates. It depends on the detail settings.

I was running Tomb Raider 2013 at 5760x1080p Eyeinfinity on my old R9-290 reference card and it couldn't maintain the 947 clock speed. The CPU is Intel Core i5-2500K.

8 core Jaguar at 2.1 Ghz would be a problem.

@xhawk27 said:

@hitmanactual said:

Day fucking one. Just take my money already.

The Xboner is going to be put on life support...it's barely clinging to life as it is. Could be the final nail in the coffin.

Can't wait to hear Phil damage control this. Nya meltdown imminent.

I am selling my Xbone! Are you sure Scalebound is going to get a PC port?

Good choice. Xbone is a already an outdated POS with the current PS4 around, imagine how bad it will be once Neo hits.

I can attest a i3 is perfectly fine for gaming depending on your GPU. I only have a gtx 960 and I am experiencing no bottleneck, but from the way people are talking....I was expecting a i5 and 970 or something. I seriously feel sorry for early PS4 adopters. Hardly any big exclusives and now they have to buy the weak PSVR and a new console? lol. jeeze.

Well now that you put it that way I suppose it's possible but why bother. Playing at 20fps with mid/low settings wouldn't be worth it just to get 4K.

@quadknight said:

@xhawk27 said:

@hitmanactual said:

Day fucking one. Just take my money already.

The Xboner is going to be put on life support...it's barely clinging to life as it is. Could be the final nail in the coffin.

Can't wait to hear Phil damage control this. Nya meltdown imminent.

I am selling my Xbone! Are you sure Scalebound is going to get a PC port?

Good choice. Xbone is a already an outdated POS with the current PS4 around, imagine how bad it will be once Neo hits.

Yeah its going to be bad.

A 380? You're lucky if it hits a gtx 950 level, which I can't imagine.

Right. If youre going to play at a higher resolution, have the hardware to make it worth it. Whats the point of going from 1080p to 4k for example, if you had to turn everything down just to get a stable framerate.

He didn't invent anything! AMD is the one that created the Jaguar Cores and just stuck 2 Quad Cores together! You think he invented GDDR5, but he didn't as it's been out since ATi started to use it in 2008 with the Radeon HD 4000 series

@xhawk27 said:

@hitmanactual said:

Day fucking one. Just take my money already.

The Xboner is going to be put on life support...it's barely clinging to life as it is. Could be the final nail in the coffin.

Can't wait to hear Phil damage control this. Nya meltdown imminent.

I am selling my Xbone! Are you sure Scalebound is going to get a PC port?

Not sure about Scalebound anymore. I have a sneaking suspicion it will be like the supposed killer game Quantum Break and be barely a 6/10 game. Seeing as the Xboner is so underpowered, you can't help but wonder what compromises will need to be made to make the game playable without making your eyes bleed.

I don't think so , the devs are getting used to gpgpu tools more and more this gen.

A 500 mhz increase across 8 cores is also a pretty big increase. That would match the cpu almost with an I5 sandy bridge. That will only be barely enough for 4k but i suspect the games will be upscaled.

Just like the memory , I don't think 8 gb will be enough for 4k, but I should be able to handle a near 4k upscaled resolution.

I'm surprised so many console fanboys are okay with this. You used to always hear people talk about not having to worry about upgrades as a pro for consoles. I guess the idea just needed Sony's name on it.

This. I have a i3 and a 960 and experience no bottleneck issue. I'd imagine I wouldn't until I put a 980 in my case.

I'm actually not okay with it to be honest but what can you do. It seems the industry is changing and Sony is doing the same.

I guess I'll have to be upgrading my PC as well as my console now :(

That's high details not max/ultra details. There's little need for MSAA at 4K.

You get a large performance boost with one step down details settings.

For visual "bang per buck" quality, ultimate settings are just wasteful.

Hmmmm....interesting. We shall see then.

What kind of CPU were you running?

Might get it for the 4K Bluray player....the only one out is Samsung and its 400 and can't play games.

Pretty much like what happened when the PS3 launched

So...you guys are ok with this? I can't imagine devs are happy about it. Might as well bury the original PS4. I feel sorry for people that bought one in the last few months. Sony knows how to shoot itself in the foot.

I was expecting a new console around 2018, but now? lol. Good times.

Porting will be easy.

Code for the PS4 and then just use the extra power on the 4.5 to lock frame rates and keep the resolution at 1080p. Nothing difficult or time-consuming.

Also, SONY isn't "shooting" themselves in the foot. They are stopping greedy MS from calling it quits and releasing a new console next year. The PS4.5's 4 TF GPU throws a wrench into their plans, because whatever MS was planning for 2017 won't be as strong as the PS4.5.

SONY is trapping MS.

Mainly VR, but a side perk of the upgraded hardware is it will now be on an even playing field with the NX/XB1.5.

it clearly says that devs won't be allowed to leave the ps4 behind though. To me that is the most important thing. Games are what matters. The graphics do not.

I bet you won't be saying that if you see more 1080p 60fps games on the PS4K.

GTX 950? That's R9-270X/7870 GE level

I don't see them going with that CPU.

Just doubling the CU count would put it at 3.68 Tflops. The clockrate boost puts it over 4 Tflops.

@MonsieurX: Yup....I just wish I wouldn't have already bought a PS4, hopefully there will be decent trade in deals.

You talk as thought Sony is pro consumer, but if they were..why did they follow MS's footsteps with online fees and such? Do you believe they will abandon this model if MS bows out? If they were so "pro gamer" they wouldn't have adopted any of MS's business model. If I'm not mistake, Ubi said a PS4k would be a pain in the ass, so you might as well book it. No dev want's to do extra work.

All of this is because Sony actually believes that their piece of shit VR is going to make strides. This is the rather Titanic of Sony.

Doesn't a 950 outperform a 270x?

Then explain how Sony fragmenting their own userbase is going to be a good thing. How will it be a good thing when devs have to worry about not one, but two hardware configs? Know what will happen? A- the devs will have to cater to the weakest hardware so it will run on the PS4 and not take advantage of the upgraded hardware making the PS4K pointless or... B- Make the game run exclusively on the upgraded system and give the finger to the 40 million people that already bought the system.

I have the same view point i.e. PS4K as Bluray 4K player.

If Sony can capture 4K bluray player upgrade cycle, Sony would win this round.

This isn't about VR.

This is about ruining Microsoft's current plan.

SONY knows MS is a sore loser company and will rush out a new Xbox next year. By releasing a 4 TF GPU console this year, they are throwing a gigantic wrench into MS's plans.

SONY is trapping MS. Now MS can't release a new console soon. They probably wasted billions in R&D already and now it's all gone down the toilet because Microsoft can't release a new xbox at only 3-4 TF performance when there's already a 4 TF GPU PS4.5 released 1 year earlier.

SONY is VERY smart. Cerny is a genius.

And I was starting to not be happy about upgrading my pc for around a hundred bucks a year. Damn!

I remember someone once commented on how this is "The Re-Master Generation." That term is more true now than when it was initially stated.

Intel Core i5-2500K at ~3.9 Ghz

Read the article.

Devs can't release anything exclusively on 1 version.

Devs will make a base PS4 version and as the 4.5 uses the same architecture as the 4, they will just fix up any issues the 4 has.

Fluctuating frame rates and <1080p res? The 4.5 will have solid frame rates and locked 1080p res.

It's nothing difficult. It's just flipping the switch.

You have no idea what you're talking about, not even an 8350 overclocked competes with a Sandy Bridge i5, that CPU has literally half the per-core performance not to mention it's a 125 watt desktop CPU...

Jaguar is a tablet CPU which per-core performance is likely less than half of even the 8350...

Don't care, I don't buy a console to brag about hardware, I buy consoles to have fun with games that I like. I already have a PC that I can use to play in 1080p 60FPS.

Talking about reading an article,that's rich coming from you when you couldn't even do that in your thread

I was going to stock up on soothing eyedrops to cope with my 30fps Uncharted 4 playthrough, but if this new system guarantees UC4 60fps, I can wait.

Hear that? It's the sound of asshurt.

Go enjoy your garbage NX that will be weaker than the base PS4. LOL