Gaming TV's

So I just bought me a Samsung KS8500 4K TV, preparing for the Pro when that's released and I have to say that it's a gorgeous TV to look at. Interested in what TV's "gamers" in here have and what they are gaming on or even plan to get in the near future.

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Best 4k TVs Samsung or LG (preferbly samsung)

Best 4k budget brand Vizio

B-Tier 4K brands Sony Sharp, or Panasonic (sharp is the worst of these 3)

Any other brand, avoid at all costs

Just one FYI, the Pro isn't going to be playing games at 4k and doesn't have a 4k BD drive, so the only "native" 4k you'll get from it is streaming like netflix, which will require about 50 down broadband internet and still not look as good as a blu ray due to compression. Some say netflix 4k looks pretty much like a 1080p blu ray movie. I haven't personally used it though. I'm holding out for the scorpio

Got a 2015 Samsung 55" JS8500

Man, I double checked to see if my tv is HDR ready, although it's still an awesome tv, it's not. I feel out of the loop. I brought up getting a new tv with my wife and got shut down fast haha

I got the LG UH8500 with the Xbox One S last week. A 65" 4K HDR set. Both are in my living room. In my game room I'm currently using a 70" 1080p Sharp. Once the OLED tvs come down in price, I will get one of those for the living room.

I have a 60" Samsung 4k TV (Model #JS7000), and I have both my Xbox One S and my gaming PC hooked up to it.

What sucks is my TV supports HDR8, so I haven't been able to use my Xbox One's full potential.

I have 42 inch Samsung, (I forget the model) I'll upgrade to 4K when the time comes.

Samsung JU7500 it's an amazing TV but I probably haven't seen the best of it yet. Netflix 4K streams look no better than bluray to me though blurays look fantastic on this TV. Streaming just isn't there yet.

PS4 looks great, PC not hooked up yet wife is still griefing me over moving everything around all the time, no idea what she's talking about... er...

Its funny how everyones TV is getting bigger and I'm trying to get smaller. Looking to upgrade, but now I have a 50" Sharp, 46" LG that I use for gaming and a 40" Insignia. Gonna replace my wifes old insignia with the LG and upgrade she just don't know it yet hehehehe

Samsung KU6290 Series 65" 4K UHD Smart TV With HDR

Got it 5 days ago

@darkangel115: Again, no.

Recently bought a 55" LG EF9500 OLED. Insane picture quality.

ummm you do know that LG makes the OLEDs right?

and the second best TV beside that might be the new Sony Z9D series as far as LEDs TVs go.

Yes what your TV does is a little different than what the PS4P would do..... because according to you a person can just play a PS2 game on a 4K TV and then think the game is being played at 4K resolution.

Well yes in a way you are right as all TVs display things at the TVs own native resolution but having the game itself being output at close to 4K which I assumed would be the case for PS4P and then upscaled would look vastly better!

This is the one to get: OLED65B6P

LG - 65" Class (64.5" Diag.) - OLED - 2160p - Smart - 4K Ultra HD TV with High Dynamic Range

LG 55" 1080p I forget the model. It's awesome. Had it for over 6 years..

I am still using a Plasma. lol

what does that have to do with anything?

and no Sony doesn't have any top of the line TVs. 6 grand for the Z9D? lol the LG and Samsung are way better at that price range. Sony is in the vizio quality but with LG/samsung prices

again , yes.

You know nothing about TVs, stop giving this shit advice.

Now you'll going to argue about tv's lol. I just wanted to know what everyone is gaming on and you'll turn that into a debate lol. Priceless.

After a lot of research the last couple weeks, I'm going to go with either the M or P series Vizio in a couple months. I'm leaning more towards the P series as it has a better scaler for lower resolution content. The P series also has the least input lag that I've found in 4K TVs going as low as 19.1 ms in game mode. The M series is second best at 19.8 ms in game mode.

Both are 120Hz and support both HDR10 and Dolby HDR.

The Samsung KS8000 series is also really good but does not support Dolby HDR (yet). The lag input was still great at 20.9 ms in game mode.

i have a crappy 4k tv that doesn't even support hdr

I know, LOL! He should stop with that nonsense though.

I have a regular, ordinary and not even "smart" 40" Samsung and I´m happy with it, no plans for upgrading in the future.

I wish I could find one like my mom´s 32" LG in either LG or Samsung but apparently they are no longer being made like that ( my mom´s has 4 HDMI ports, AV, component, PC, audio optical out, audio regular out, 2 USB, coaxial antenna in, coaxial audio out ), the closest thing I´ve found with all those ports are Philips.

This joker can't be serious... lol

I don't know even know if I should my waste time on this one.

@Telekill: Be aware that while the 2016 P and M vizio series offer the best bang for the buck when it comes to LED TVs these with both being FALD and both do offer HDR 10 as well as Dobly Vision HDR only the P series can offer WCG where as the M series doesn't so it can't get as colorful and it only has half the FALD zone count of the P series as well.

These are all important things to be aware of so you can at least make an informed decision rather than buying and then realizing later that these are important features you'd want.

If you think sony makes the best TVs, you'd be the joker. Good quality? yes. better then LG or samsung? no

@demon-returns: That really helps actually. All my research and I had yet to see any mention of WCG. When I do a specific search for it and what it is, I'll definitely want that.

Thanks for making up my mind. P series it is.

Quick question for you, when you turn the "game mode" on with the KS8500, does the picture quality degrade at all? Because on the last Samsung I owned, when I turned on game mode, the picture went noticeably blurry and just didn't look as crisp as with game mode off.

@Telekill: Just to get you started - WCG is short for wide color gamut. TVs that have this capability are able to display up to a billion shades of colors when watching UHD 4K Blu Rays with 10 bit colors as opposed to regular Blu Ray which uses the limited REC 709 color space which is 16 million colors. So in essence with more colors in addition to HDR it makes for a more vibrant picture.

Glad I can help you make a better more informed decision my friend.

Are you a dummy or you just don't know how to read? Or both?

With Sony I specifically mentioned the Z9D

and if you are aware of the VE TV shootout that happened this year where flagship TVs from each of the manufacturers were put head to head the Sony x940D the former Sony flagship this year came in second behind the OLED and ahead of the Samsung flagship.

And guess what - the Z9 is even better than the x940D.

I have a samsung SUHD tv so if anything I'd be hyping up samsung but I'm not gonna be a fanboy and ignore facts like many little fanboys do just because something I own isn't considered the best.

The samsungs have the edge when you get the mid tier level as anyone would take the ks8 series and ks9000 over the competing 850D and 930D. But step to the 940D and above for Sony and it's a different story altogether.

BUT surprisingly the Vizio P series is arguably competitive to the other LEDs as it had a full array local dimming which if you want a Samsung or Sony you'd have to get their flagship for that feature (LG doesn't even use it in any of their LEDs which are also IPS to boot. And then on top of that LG and Vizio offer both flavors of HDR in their TVs HDR 10 and Dolby Vision.

it's a 6k dollar TV that hasn't been reviewed yet. it'll be compared with the 6k dollar LG and the 4500 dollar samsung. at 1500 more then the samsung it will need to blow it away and I highly doubt it does. It'll likely be around the same or a little worse, in now justifying the 1500 more then the samsung. Sony does make good TVs, but all their good ones are overpriced compared to samsung counterparts that often perform the same or better

http://4k.com/news/more-details-on-sonys-new-and-stunning-ultra-premium-z9d-hdr-4k-tvs-15758/

[quote]Most interestingly, while the XBR-D models from early to mid-2016 have been disappointing in their HDR specs when compared to competing HDR TV models from Samsung, we might see the Z9D televisions fly right past their Samsung SUHD counterparts in terms of high quality peak brightness and black level delivery. So far, the Samsung 2016 SUHD Televisions and the flagship KS9800 in particular, have been the absolute best LCD 4K HDR TV’s we’ve yet managed to review. We’ll have to wait and see if the new Sony Z9D editions outperform even this high bar and what detailed measurement can show us across their specific display metrics.[/quote]

So lets wait until we see reviews as you can see sony TVs have been behind for years. Maybe, Maybe they can change that with the Z9D but it better blow about the Samsung for costing 25% more

Preparing for upscaled 4K.

Must be fun.

If you have $2000 to spend on a TV, why not buy a monster PC and get native 4K?

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-oled-technology-flat-panels-general/2494882-value-electronics-2016-tv-shootout-results.html

scroll down just bit and you'd see it was no contest that the Sony won hands down even past the OLED for day time viewing or in more lighted room which a major of americans fall under as not many people have dedicated theater rooms that are pitch black unless they are enthusiasts. Now that's only the 940D and again like I said you look at the Z9 and what it has it's like trying to compare PS4 Pro to what a GTX 1080 can do - come on dude - just give it up.

One thing I'll give you thatyou said is that the Samsung is cheaper and at the 65inch size I'd definitely go OLED as well since the money between the Z9 and OLED is comparable BUT once you go past that size the OLED at 77inch is $20k where as the 75inch Z9 is like half that amount. And the higher we are starting to go up in resolution the bigger TV helps unless you wanna be sitting very close to the TV.

Are there PC monitors that are HDR capable?

I mean even if you spend money on a PC you'd still have to buy one of these TVs to then use as a monitor for it sooooo......................??

edit - not trying to make fun of you, I really haven't done research on PC monitors so if there really is one it would be cool if you can point me to it ---->

I'm pretty sure this is my TV: Samsung UN55JU6500 55-Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart LED TV.

Though I don't game on it much.

Most of my gaming happens on this monitor: BenQ XL2720Z 144Hz 1ms 27 inch Gaming Monitor

And then I have an additional 27 inch Samsung monitor that I game on, but usually for slower paced games. It has slightly better picture quality than my BenQ monitor, but lacks the refresh rate and isn't as responsive.

Not talking about PC monitors. I'm talking about buying a rig to make that $2000 TV a worthy investment. :P

I wouldn't buy that kind of TV unless I could take full advantage of it's capability.

And to me, 1080p is more than enough. I care more about performance and steady (and high) framerates.

well according to your link, the LG at the same price beat it, and the older samsung 1500 bucks cheaper was pretty close. In that case I'd still take the LG which was my main point of LG or Samsung.

also there is flaws in what you linked

"One thing I felt was missing from the shootout was a true reference monitor to judge color. It's hard to judge color accuracy without a point of reference, and in that sense, the color accuracy category was a bit of a misnomer. People were voting on the image they thought looked best, not necessarily the one that was most accurate and reflected the artist's intent. Granted, it's possible for the most accurate color to be the most pleasing to look at, but without a reference monitor, there's no way of knowing. I did appreciate the inclusion of a calibrated Pioneer Kuro plasma TV, which looked great when showing BT.709 content with the lights dimmed."

"I've seen a few KS9800s over the past month or so, and this is the first time I have seen such an obvious flaw in one. It makes me wonder if there was a defective LED in the backlight array given the size and shape of the defect. Another thing I noticed during the shootout was that the KS9800 occasionally displayed muted colors and it required a reset of the HDMI connection to get proper HDR/WCG performance out of it."

"I can't say I agree the OLED was superior to the Samsung for "overall day" viewing. I did not see that it offered better motion resolution or HDR/WCG performance than the LCDs. Nevertheless, the votes show that the majority came to a different conclusion. I look forward to seeing the calibration-measurement results for any insights they might offer regarding the discrepancy between my impressions and the attendees' votes."

So lets wait until we get some technical tests. "viewer eye" is usually not great. thats why manufacturers ship with brightness and backlight turned really high, so floor models stand out and people buy them. Most people look for the biggest and brightest. The settings by default are poor for actual quality and correct color.

Holy shit you guys are giving me some ideas, none of which are good for my wallet :)

@ConanTheStoner: Does your tv not support HDR?

Hmm, I figured it didn't, but it turns out it does.

- Meets CEA 4K UHD Connected and HDR Compatibility Definitions

- Compatible with Next-Gen UHD Blu-Ray HDR

That's cool.

Either way though, I still prefer just gaming on a monitor lol. Even in gaming mode, my TV is nowhere near as responsive as my BenQ monitor. Plus my computer chair is far more comfy for extended play sessions than any couch could ever be.

@ConanTheStoner: That's great, because a lot of older and cheaper 4k tvs don't support HDR. And yeah, the input lag is pretty high for most of these 4k tvs, even newer ones.

Yeah definitely. I didn't even research this TV before buying lol. I went out earlier this year to get a new 1080p set and saw that the 4k sets weren't really that much more expensive, so I just bought it right there. It's a good TV, especially since I just watch movies and shows on it.

The lag in regular mode is absolutely unplayable for a fast paced game. In gaming mode it's not too bad though, I was able to play stricter stuff like Bloodborne, Ninja Gaiden, DMC3, Bayo 2, and Super Meat Boy without any real issues. But still, it has nothing on a true gaming monitor.

for a tv i still got a plasma ...63" samsung bought it in 2009.

plan to finally join 4k in november or december....going to get a 65" oled 4k....going to cost me 4k or 5k i think.

for a monitor i already got a 31" 4k....looks great when you put games in actual 4k.

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i dont know what to do with my plasma....works perfect and looks like new still :(

Aha I see.... if you put it that way it makes a lot of sense.

I mean with the new graphics card coming out now it's slowly becoming cheaper to output 4K resolutions now but there have been some people pushing 4k graphics the past couple years now but I guess the new thing is the high dynamic range factor.

But the thing is you also have to factor the size of the TV into the equation which does a lot to help towards having benefits of the higher resolution to begin with.

The 940D is 75 inches and the OLED is 65, when you try to jump into the 70+ inch size the OLED price sky rockets to an insane $20,000. And the KS9800 I believe is cheaper like you said but is also 65 inches. So while the Sony may cost a little more like you said once you start going up in inches then the premium price really shoots up.

The people that did the shoot out aren't just ordinary joes from around the street corner, these are experts in the industry of calibration etc.

I also believe that unlike rec 709 content there really isn't any calibration for rec 2020 content at the moment as when you start watching UHD blu rays the back light and contrast gets maxed automatically and the color space works the same way. Can't really change or adjust it. At least for the samsung TV I have anyway. Not sure how other models like Sony, Vizio or LG do it but I'd think it's similar.

I do think that one thing you and I BOTH agree on is that OLED is top notch at the moment as far as superior blacks go even though it can't really get as bright as the LEDs, but still most will take it in a heart beat over any LED especially the non FALD ones as they are prone to light bleed blooming in dark scenes with blacks looking more like gray.

Did you hear about Samsung possibly making QLEDs as the next tech to even surpass OLED?