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#101 Innovazero2000
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I'm glad Skies of Arcadia is on that list. That game is so underrated.sammyjenkis898

Yes it is.

FFVII is a good game, but the reason why everyone hypes it so much is because

A. It was the first RPG to be really mainstream

B. It's many's first RPG because of this

C. It was the first RPG that REALLY took advantage of CD's.

There are many RPG's though that are better the FFVII. True RPG players at the time would argue PZ Saga was the better game. LEts not forget the first Grandia too came out that time on the Saturn.

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#102 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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final fantasy 6 >>>>>>> final fantasy 7. :P
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#103 hayato_
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[QUOTE="hayato_"]

Sup with all the hate on Final Fantasy VII. The game was a masterpiece. One of the best to come out though 1996 or 97 I can't remember. If it wasn;t for the game, serioully doubt the RPG or JRPG genre for that matter would be as popular as it is. Every character has written so well that they all could have had their own game. The story as well. I played tons of RPGs and WRPGs, but none to make an impact such as FF VII. Star Ocean: The second story and Valkyrie Profile got close back in my early teens.

Definitly derserves number one. I think people just like to hate on it for fun.:P

(Id like to see someone elses list, so I can say how bad it it is if yor number 1 or whatever number doesn't agree with mine give me a break jeez) ;)

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if i made an rpg list my first step would be to make it a JRPG or WRPG only list rather then mixing two genres that have little to do with each other

that was gamepro's first mistake

Lots of games could be classiflied in the RPG mix imo. Take Zone of the Enders for instance and Zelda. If your gonna go by that, then I don't think WRPGs should be in there (Some are deabtable for that matter IMO).

What is the definition of a Role Playing Game? They span across the board its just that divserse.

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#104 hayato_
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[QUOTE="hayato_"]Jandurin
final fantasy 6 >>>>>>> final fantasy 7. :P

I'll raise you:P

FF VII/ FF X >>> FF IV>>FF VIII>>> FF VI

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#105 st1ka
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[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="hayato_"]

Sup with all the hate on Final Fantasy VII. The game was a masterpiece. One of the best to come out though 1996 or 97 I can't remember. If it wasn;t for the game, serioully doubt the RPG or JRPG genre for that matter would be as popular as it is. Every character has written so well that they all could have had their own game. The story as well. I played tons of RPGs and WRPGs, but none to make an impact such as FF VII. Star Ocean: The second story and Valkyrie Profile got close back in my early teens.

Definitly derserves number one. I think people just like to hate on it for fun.:P

(Id like to see someone elses list, so I can say how bad it it is if yor number 1 or whatever number doesn't agree with mine give me a break jeez) ;)

hayato_

if i made an rpg list my first step would be to make it a JRPG or WRPG only list rather then mixing two genres that have little to do with each other

that was gamepro's first mistake

Lots of games could be classiflied in the RPG mix imo. Take Zone of the Enders for instance and Zelda. If your gonna go by that, then I don't think WRPGs should be in there (Some are deabtable for that matter IMO).

What is the definition of a Role Playing Game? They span across the board its just that divserse.

zone of enders is not an RPG, that´s like saying gears of war is a racing game because you have a driving section

Legend of zelda is an adventure game not an RPG

RPGs are games that give you the ability to roleplay a character, with that being said many people (such as myself) don't think JRPGs are rpgs, we just call them so to avoid unecessary arguements

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#106 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="hayato_"]hayato_

final fantasy 6 >>>>>>> final fantasy 7. :P

I'll raise you:P

FF VII/ FF X >>> FF IV>>FF VIII>>> FF VI

:x FFVI >> FFIX > FFIV > FFVII > FFV >>>>> FFX I never played 8 or 12.
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#107 Blommen
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[QUOTE="hayato_"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="hayato_"]Jandurin

final fantasy 6 >>>>>>> final fantasy 7. :P

I'll raise you:P

FF VII/ FF X >>> FF IV>>FF VIII>>> FF VI

:x FFVI >> FFIX > FFIV > FFVII > FFV >>>>> FFX I never played 8 or 12.

You have to! FF8 is my fav FF game, followed by Tactics and FF9.

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#108 ClawKiller
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Oblivion rated higher than Maldurs Gate 2 makes this list fail, and now the people who wrote it should go kill themselves because the same of that is too great to bear and it makes me angry.
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#109 creeping-deth87
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Did I somehow miss some huge revolution here in system wars? I swear FF7 was held in high regard by almost everyone on this forum, but after reading so many people's responses to the list I can see that isn't the case.

I personally would have put chrono cross at #1 but that's just me.

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#110 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]most people would agree that FF7 is the best RPG....with Chrono Cross and FF3 and FF8 and so many others...ArisShadows

No they wouldn't

And link, tc?

Indeed. I regard KOTOR as the greatest RPG of all time, and I know that opinion is shared by many. So FF7 being greatest isn't universal.

And WTF is up with the Zelda games being on that list?? :? :?

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#111 ClawKiller
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Ocarina of time isnt an RPG.

These people make me angery.

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#112 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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KotOR is lame >_> :P

I personally would have put chrono cross at #1 but that's just me.

creeping-deth87
Chrono Trigger, sure :o Chrono Cross was very good, imo, but not the best RPG by any rubric.

You have to! FF8 is my fav FF game, followed by Tactics and FF9.

Blommen
I dunno... the draw system scares and confuses me.
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#113 Verge_6
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FFVII the number one RPG of all time? Either Gaempro's trying to appeal to the fanboys, or they've also fallen into the trap of nostalgia...
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#114 Verge_6
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KotOR is lame >_> :PJandurin

I will have to kill you now. Slowly.

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#115 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] KotOR is lame >_> :PVerge_6

I will have to kill you now. Slowly.

Haha. It's not my fault BioWare has brainwashed you people >_>
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#116 -DrRobotnik-
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They need to switch FFXII with FFX. Glad to see Deus Ex there though
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#117 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] KotOR is lame >_> :PVerge_6

I will have to kill you now. Slowly.

Happy to help on this one, here, you can borror this for a nice slow death. :twisted:

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#119 vashkey
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Yeah, once I saw that Pokemon Diamond and Pearl(two of the worst entires in the series) make it into the list I could no longer take the list seriously.
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#120 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] KotOR is lame >_> :PSecretPolice

I will have to kill you now. Slowly.

Happy to help on this one, here, you can borror this for a nice slow death. :twisted:

No no, allow ME :twisted:

*force chokes Jandurin, taking my time*

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#121 vashkey
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if rogue galaxy,persona 3 fes,and final fabtasy 10 or 12 is not oon that list I am not reading.Iceman2911

All of them ate on the list except Rogoue Galaxy, but why would it be on the list?

It was good, but deffinatly not best RPG material.

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#122 Vandalvideo
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Oh what the crap, Suikoden 3 made it on there but not Suikoden 2? Suikoden 2 is LIGHT YEARS better than Suikoden 3. Suikoden 3 is a final fantasy clone peice of crap compared to S2. You can easily tell the list was made by a Square fanboy.
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#123 Velric
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What a completely horrible list!
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#124 audioaxes
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lol no secret of mana
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#125 adamosmaki
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I wouldn't be looking at Gamepro for the most well based "best ***** list". Just looking at the FPS one also, I was annoyed at this statement,

"The controls, graphics, sound, and online modes were all hugely influential -- this is another series that played a key role in the creation of Halo."

Why are they trying to label Halo as some holy coveted game? Oh and speaking of which, Halo 3 in the top 10? Before anyone flames me, I'll just simply say the Halo series is overrated. By no means are they terrible games at all, it's just the way people talk of how great it is, is severely overrated. Oh and where's the original Half-Life?

Mystic_Legend

The fps list was even worst than the rpg list. Where is ut2k4? battlefield 2? half life 1?

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#126 treelog82
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If you read the game descriptions on the list you can see that they dont know what they're talking about at all.

They said that FF12 was the peak of storytelling in the FF series even though a good portion of the fanbase found it bland and even those who did enjoy it still admit the pacing was awful. Then they went on to say FF12 introduced the ATB battle system and Im pretty sure thats been around since FF4. 12 introduced the ADB system.

The descriptions for most of the games on the list had major flaws, but those are the ones that really stuck out to me.

Not to mention only about 5 games on the list even deserve to be there.

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#127 kid_who_grew_up
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No surprise here, But if Zelda is a RPG? Why isn't shenmue on the list? IMO Shenmue should be in top 20. Mass Effect Should be a little higher up in the cat, But I mostly agree.
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#128 Verge_6
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After reading the whole article, I am of the opinion that Gamepro should be wiped off the face of the earth. They were already a joke in the gaming world to begin with, but this list alone warrants eternal damnation. FFXII having the deepest FF story? lol, wut? I think the tool(s) that wrote this didn't even play the damn games that comprised it, and just looked at the message boards and wrote down what the raving fanboys of each respective game had to say about it.
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#129 laus_basic
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OMG at all the games above Skies of Arcadia, BLASPHEMY. SoA should be a heck of a lot higher than that.

And Dragon Quest VIII should definitly be on there. Pokemon better than DQVIII & SoA lololololol.

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#130 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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OMG at all the games above Skies of Arcadia, BLASPHEMY. SoA should be a heck of a lot higher than that.

And Dragon Quest VIII should definitly be on there. Pokemon better than DQVIII & SoA lololololol.

laus_basic
Dragon Quest VIII was great, but I got scared of its depth and ran away like a little girl after about 10 hours :(
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#131 Jade_Monkey
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That list is full of fail. I used to subscribe to gamePro back in the Playstation 1 days and it is sad to see how far they have fallen.
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#133 Jade_Monkey
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I guess what we've learned is that everyone has a different taste.

Alas.

All I care about is Star Ocean 2, Valkyrie Profile, Persona 3, Jade Cacoon, and a few others.

Oh, Shadow Hearts. You got to be down with Shadow Hearts. The only game I know of where to upgrade your weapons you need to have a gay guy fondle you. And the only game where monsters waggle their phallus at you in an attack. That game was absurd to the Nth degree. And awesome.

Oh, what else. I never did like Xensaga but I loved Xeno Gears.

And Thousand Arms. Dude, any game where flirting is a primary game mechanic totally wins.

I like Wild Arms 3. It had gunfights on horseback. HORSEBACK. Holy @#$%!

I like most of the Final Fantasy games. I loved eight and ten more than seven but still loved seven (but it was never the second coming of christ for me unlike for some people).

La Pucelle Tactics. . . Mana Khemia. . Ar Tonelico. Okay. Anything Atlus or Nippon Ichi I just die for.

AncientDozer

Everyone may have different tastes but it seems that there is a general concensus that this list is flawed. Most users here may like different games but they all seem to agree that most of those games don't belong on that list.

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#134 angelkimne
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KOTOR need be moar higher :(

And why is Zelda there...

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#135 laus_basic
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[QUOTE="laus_basic"]

OMG at all the games above Skies of Arcadia, BLASPHEMY. SoA should be a heck of a lot higher than that.

And Dragon Quest VIII should definitly be on there. Pokemon better than DQVIII & SoA lololololol.

Jandurin

Dragon Quest VIII was great, but I got scared of its depth and ran away like a little girl after about 10 hours :(

So that's like 1/8 of the game. That's too bad, you missed a lot of good stuff..

Only bad thing for me about DQVIII was the random battles.

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#136 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="laus_basic"]

OMG at all the games above Skies of Arcadia, BLASPHEMY. SoA should be a heck of a lot higher than that.

And Dragon Quest VIII should definitly be on there. Pokemon better than DQVIII & SoA lololololol.

laus_basic

Dragon Quest VIII was great, but I got scared of its depth and ran away like a little girl after about 10 hours :(

So that's like 1/8 of the game. That's too bad, you missed a lot of good stuff..

Only bad thing for me about DQVIII was the random battles.

Eh, I'll beat it some day. I stopped at a place where I could remember what was going on. I just had too many other games right at that moment.
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#137 POJO_MOFO
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We all realize this is Gamepro right?? When was the last time they were credible, yearly 90's????
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#138 snyper1982
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I have not seen a list so atrocious in my lifetime. They picked FFVII as their number one RPG of all time. This game to me is comparable to Battle Arena Toshinden. All glamour and glitz but no real substance. Real games stand the test of time but FFVII did not for me anyways. Another problem I had with the list is the fact that they had Legend of Zelda a link to the past and Ocarina of time in their picks when a true gamer knows these games are not even RPG's at all. The list was all over the place and one of my favorite RPG's which was Panzer Dragoon Saga, did not make the list. Dragon Quest was another series that did not make the list either if I recall correctly. Sorry for not adding a link to the page so I guess you guys will just have to find it yourselves. LOLpoptart28

I agree with their #1. It ismy favorite game of all time.

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#139 Noldorin2646
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KOTOR need be moar higher :(

And why is Zelda there...

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Personally, I liked Knights of the Old Republic better than Baldur's Gate 2, but you're delusional if you think it's a better crafted game.

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#140 Josh5890
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We should make up our own list and have it posted on gamespot. It could be voted upon by us, the gamers.
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#141 t3hTwinky
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What a fail list. Putting FF7 as the number one is like putting Starcraft at number one on a strategy list, its the obvious, safest choice.

And Legend of Zelda? lol?

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#142 xsubtownerx
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Why Oblivion over Morrowinds? Why Fallout 3 over Falout 1 (or 2)? Why FFXII but no FFVI? I can only assume that this list was made by a 14 year old..