Former Sony dev hypes up Sony showcase, teases big announcement

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#51 SolidGame_basic
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People getting salty over wanting a remake to one of the best games of all time 😄

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#52 Pedro  Online
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@TheEroica said:

Folks begging for remakes...... Ugh, art is dead.

Cosigner thinks you are salty. Is this true?

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#53 SargentD
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@Pedro: MGS 1 remake is like Nintendo announcing a Mario 64 remake. Just move on..

I'm honestly surprised how much people want that, buying a brand new console for ps1 remakes... 🤡 🤡 🤡

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#54 dimebag667
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@TheEroica: How much of it is just that people like the familiar, versus how little they want to play modern garbage?

I would love some new great ideas... but how long do we have to wait? Last gen bored me to tears, and this gen is looking just as bad.

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#55 Pedro  Online
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@Pedro: MGS 1 remake is like Nintendo announcing a Mario 64 remake. Just move on..

I'm honestly surprised how much people want that, buying a brand new console for ps1 remakes... 🤡 🤡 🤡

What are you even responding to?

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#56 SargentD
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@Pedro: people asking for remakes in this thread, nothing in particular to anything you said

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#57  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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@Pedro: who's Cosigner?

Not salty... But I wasn't at the beginning of rock music to see it evolve through its infancy. To see it explode on the backs of new ideas and boundary pushing musicians... It mustve been glorious to see unfold. However, in any society art runs a risk of falling in love with itself. If we look at the Beatles, for example and say, "nothing will ever be better than this..." art is dead. Rock and roll won't push beyond and those making it will look to the past with reverence instead of to the future with new ideas.

Movies are the worst at this... Dukes of hazard, Charlie and the chocolate factory, point break, total recall... Etc... Etc...... Etc.... The insistence on reaching backwards to make something new, preying on your nostalgia rather than creating a new story, setting or characters.

The difference for me with movies, music and games is that I was at the beginning with games. I watched and took part in the invention of new ideas and approaches that made gaming what it is today. To see it stuck on the notion that it must look back to recreate what it has already done through remaster and remakes is the most uninspiring future for video games I can think of.

If gaming was to move forward in a meaningful way... An artistic way, it should always believe the best game has yet to be made.

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#58 Pedro  Online
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@TheEroica said:

@Pedro: who's Cosigner?

OP.😊

@TheEroica said:

Not salty... But I wasn't at the beginning of rock music to see it evolve through its infancy. To see it explode on the backs of new ideas and boundary pushing musicians... It mustve been glorious to see unfold. However, in any society art runs a risk of falling in love with itself. If we look at the Beatles, for example and say, "nothing will ever be better than this..." art is dead. Rock and roll won't push beyond and those making it will look to the past with reverence instead of to the future with new ideas.

Movies are the worst at this... Dukes of hazard, Charlie and the chocolate factory, point break.... Etc... Etc...... Etc.... The insistence on reaching backwards to make something new, preying on your nostalgia rather than creating a new story, setting or characters.

The difference for me with movies, music and games is that I was at the beginning with games. I watched and took part in the invention of new ideas and approaches that made gaming what it is today. To see it stuck on the notion that it must look back to recreate what it has already done through remaster and remakes is the most uninspiring future for video games I can think of.

If gaming was to move forward in a meaningful way... An artistic way, it should always believe the best game has yet to he made yet...

I can't say that I disagree but it seems like gamers are more interested in reliving the old experiences with new paint than having new experiences. Sequels and remasters is the main attraction these days.

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#59 TheEroica  Moderator
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@Pedro: duh, I should check the deets on the OP before responding :P

Nah. Not salty. It's a topic I've always found interesting. I'm a career musician myself so I find it a constant temptation in art to love yesterday more than seeing the opportunity in tomorrow.

Cover song? Or something new?

I want to add that I am excited for some of these remakes. Kotor being chief among them all. I just know that once we start falling in love with remaking our childhood games we also miss out on new experiences, places, characters and potential ideas.

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#60  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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You guys make it seem like we're advocating for every game to be a remake 😄

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#61 NathanDrakeSwag
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@SolidGame_basic said:

You guys make it seem like we're advocating for every game to be a remake 😄

They're just upset because an MGS Remake by Bluepoint will never go to Xbox lol.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

You guys make it seem like we're advocating for every game to be a remake 😄

They're just upset because an MGS Remake by Bluepoint will never go to Xbox lol.

You mean the Konami owned IP is going to be made by Bluepoint? 🤔

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#63 SolidGame_basic
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

You guys make it seem like we're advocating for every game to be a remake 😄

They're just upset because an MGS Remake by Bluepoint will never go to Xbox lol.

I can imagine Pedro losing sleep over this and trying to call IPDaily for advice 🤣

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@SolidGame_basic said:

I can imagine Pedro losing sleep over this and trying to call IPDaily for advice 🤣

It is clear that IPDaily is on your mind more than mine. I never mention the guy, but your faction can't seem to recover from his abuse. 😂🤣

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@Pedro said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

I can imagine Pedro losing sleep over this and trying to call IPDaily for advice 🤣

It is clear that IPDaily is on your mind more than mine. I never mention the guy, but your faction can't seem to recover from his abuse. 😂🤣

Why would you mention him for? You just call him instead lol.

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#66 SolidGame_basic
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@Pedro said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

I can imagine Pedro losing sleep over this and trying to call IPDaily for advice 🤣

It is clear that IPDaily is on your mind more than mine. I never mention the guy, but your faction can't seem to recover from his abuse. 😂🤣

You don't mention him because you don't want us to know you've been trying to call him ever since he left 😄

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:P

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#68 Nonstop-Madness
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Seeing more of Forbidden West would be nice but. I'm just hoping to see God of War.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

More remakes for remake Station. Meanwhile xbox is coming out with original novel games.

um one remake = every game on ps5 is a remake now? just like one PlayStation game is a movie game = every sony game is a movie game.

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#70 Gifford38
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@NathanDrakeSwag: PS5 showcase and you want a MGS 1 remake.. BORING what is wrong with you

no ps players like remakes because on top of remakes sony puts out new ip's and sequels as well. so ps players welcome remakes. just saying.

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#71 Gifford38
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@TheEroica said:

Folks begging for remakes...... Ugh, art is dead.

um there are plenty of new ip's and sequels from sony first party. so adding remakes of great games why not?

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#72 shellcase86
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@pc_rocks said:

Seems like David Jaffe is suddenly good now when he fell off cows radar by criticizing the Sony first party and awards shows.

Maybe for others, but not me. Honestly, Jaffe's excitement has me paranoid this event will be disappointing. Hoping to be wrong.

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#73 robert_sparkes
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I think it's a new IP from naughty dog that would be nice. Maybe last of us remake will also been shown with factions.

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@robert_sparkes said:

I think it's a new IP from naughty dog that would be nice. Maybe last of us remake will also been shown with factions.

New IP from Insomniac. 😮

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People asking for remakes and remasters...wtf is wrong with you? Let's see NEW IPs.

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@ButDuuude said:

People asking for remakes and remasters...wtf is wrong with you? Let's see NEW IPs.

How dare you ask for new IPs? You must be a Sony hater. 😎

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@gifford38 said:
@TheEroica said:

Folks begging for remakes...... Ugh, art is dead.

um there are plenty of new ip's and sequels from sony first party. so adding remakes of great games why not?

Its a fair point. There are a lot of options out there... Still, do u want great developers capable of delivering new experiences to increasingly work on remakes and remastered games? I'd imagine it's much more profitable to take something already established and sell it than something new in this industry. If remakes become the profitable avenue forward for big studios down the road is that what we want?

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#79 SolidGame_basic
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Who believes this fake schedule?

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@SolidGame_basic: Those Jim Ryan speeches are going to cause a lot of salt on here.

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#81 kuu2
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Sounds like Sony will finally do an e3 show. Good for the Bovine.

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#82 SolidGame_basic
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@NathanDrakeSwag: you think you know who will go into full meltdown mode?

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@TheEroica said:
@gifford38 said:
@TheEroica said:

Folks begging for remakes...... Ugh, art is dead.

um there are plenty of new ip's and sequels from sony first party. so adding remakes of great games why not?

Its a fair point. There are a lot of options out there... Still, do u want great developers capable of delivering new experiences to increasingly work on remakes and remastered games? I'd imagine it's much more profitable to take something already established and sell it than something new in this industry. If remakes become the profitable avenue forward for big studios down the road is that what we want?

depends you know the remake is going to be a great game because they choose those great games in the past to remake. were the new ip might suck or flop.

look at bluepoint best at remakes. why change that? warhawk bluepoint please warhawk lol.

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#84 Gifford38
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

@SolidGame_basic: Those Jim Ryan speeches are going to cause a lot of salt on here.

I like Jim Ryan. He gets me hyped. yeah he might of said few non sense things but every company does time to time.

He is there to hype the ps5 and he does that.

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@Nonstop-Madness said:

Seeing more of Forbidden West would be nice but. I'm just hoping to see God of War.

they will. they been to quiet about there games lately.

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I'm just happy to get a road map from Sony.

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#87  Edited By templecow90999
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Wasn't the last showcase pretty bad?