Final Fantasy IX coming to PlayStation Store soon!

Well of course Xenogears is better, but you should really play S2 first just to be fair. It's never a good idea to get into a habit of renouncing games before you play them in light of your favorites.

hakanakumono

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Well of course Xenogears is better, but you should really play S2 first just to be fair. It's never a good idea to get into a habit of renouncing games before you play them in light of your favorites.

jasonharris48

I don't blame you. I can't for the life of me understand why it hasn't made it to PSN, when Suikoden is already on there and #2 is the most in demand Suikoden, it seems.

lol god no...FFIX is one game that will look horrible on the ps3 with its inferior ps1 bc..specially on high resolution tvs. Its the reason I rarely play ps1 games on my ps3.

lol god no...FFIX is one game that will look horrible on the ps3 with its inferior ps1 bc..specially on high resolution tvs. Its the reason I rarely play ps1 games on my ps3.

WilliamRLBaker

Inferior to what?

Even though one of my best friends gave me this game for free(I got it late), I'll still buy it just for the hell of it.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

lol god no...FFIX is one game that will look horrible on the ps3 with its inferior ps1 bc..specially on high resolution tvs. Its the reason I rarely play ps1 games on my ps3.

hakanakumono

Inferior to what?

ps2's ps1 bc, I've hooked my ps2 up via component to my LCD tv and even through upscalers and it just seems to be able to smooth the ps1 graphics far better then the ps3, I've done exhaustive tests to figure out how to get the ps3 to do better graphically on ps1 games resolution changes, turning off options hooking it up via hdmi, component cable. at 1080p, with smoking and the scaling on, through hdmi Ps1 games look horrible so pix-elated it hurts the eyes, through 480p resolution on hdmi its a little better but it seems to look even better through component and 480p, where as the ps2 just through component seems to look good at 480i...Maybe its not superior maybe its just inferior the ps3 adds so much the games look horrible such games designed not meant for such high resolutions and they look so pix-elted it makes the eyes bleed.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

lol god no...FFIX is one game that will look horrible on the ps3 with its inferior ps1 bc..specially on high resolution tvs. Its the reason I rarely play ps1 games on my ps3.

WilliamRLBaker

Inferior to what?

ps2's ps1 bc, I've hooked my ps2 up via component to my LCD tv and even through upscalers and it just seems to be able to smooth the ps1 graphics far better then the ps3, I've done exhaustive tests to figure out how to get the ps3 to do better graphically on ps1 games resolution changes, turning off options hooking it up via hdmi, component cable. at 1080p, with smoking and the scaling on, through hdmi Ps1 games look horrible so pix-elated it hurts the eyes, through 480p resolution on hdmi its a little better but it seems to look even better through component and 480p, where as the ps2 just through component seems to look good at 480i...Maybe its not superior maybe its just inferior the ps3 adds so much the games look horrible such games designed not meant for such high resolutions and they look so pix-elted it makes the eyes bleed.

In my experience, I've found that the PS3 emulation looked better. Strangely enough the game looks best when I use the "stretch to fit" feature on the PS3 and then switch to a 4:3 resolution on my TV. I don't know why.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Inferior to what?

hakanakumono

ps2's ps1 bc, I've hooked my ps2 up via component to my LCD tv and even through upscalers and it just seems to be able to smooth the ps1 graphics far better then the ps3, I've done exhaustive tests to figure out how to get the ps3 to do better graphically on ps1 games resolution changes, turning off options hooking it up via hdmi, component cable. at 1080p, with smoking and the scaling on, through hdmi Ps1 games look horrible so pix-elated it hurts the eyes, through 480p resolution on hdmi its a little better but it seems to look even better through component and 480p, where as the ps2 just through component seems to look good at 480i...Maybe its not superior maybe its just inferior the ps3 adds so much the games look horrible such games designed not meant for such high resolutions and they look so pix-elted it makes the eyes bleed.

In my experience, I've found that the PS3 emulation looked better. Strangely enough the game looks best when I use the "stretch to fit" feature on the PS3 and then switch to a 4:3 resolution on my TV. I don't know why.

I could buy this for $2 used, so this game is too overpriced.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I'm pretty sure Suikoden II is the most disappointing JRPG I've ever played.

A lot of people love it, which is why I was really looking forward to it. I played it and found every single aspect of the game generic. Go figure. :/

Really wish I could have been more impressed by it, but now I'm thinking of selling it tbh.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] I never got around to playing it. I've only played S1,3,4 and the DS spin off. I'm positive it isn't as bad as part 4 was.

Honestly, it's roughly the same as IV in my book. The story is more ambitious, but it's handled terribly. I think the gameplay in IV is actually better, aside from taking forever to get anywhere by boat.

You can take my opinion with a grain of salt though, because a lot of people do love it. But I'wouldn't personally recommend spending 100$ over it.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

ps2's ps1 bc, I've hooked my ps2 up via component to my LCD tv and even through upscalers and it just seems to be able to smooth the ps1 graphics far better then the ps3, I've done exhaustive tests to figure out how to get the ps3 to do better graphically on ps1 games resolution changes, turning off options hooking it up via hdmi, component cable. at 1080p, with smoking and the scaling on, through hdmi Ps1 games look horrible so pix-elated it hurts the eyes, through 480p resolution on hdmi its a little better but it seems to look even better through component and 480p, where as the ps2 just through component seems to look good at 480i...Maybe its not superior maybe its just inferior the ps3 adds so much the games look horrible such games designed not meant for such high resolutions and they look so pix-elted it makes the eyes bleed.

jasonharris48

In my experience, I've found that the PS3 emulation looked better. Strangely enough the game looks best when I use the "stretch to fit" feature on the PS3 and then switch to a 4:3 resolution on my TV. I don't know why.

Cant wait to play the best ff of all time!!!!

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"] In my experience, I've found that the PS3 emulation looked better. Strangely enough the game looks best when I use the "stretch to fit" feature on the PS3 and then switch to a 4:3 resolution on my TV. I don't know why.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="Supabul"]

I bought a PSPgo to fill up with PS1 games and this is the one I've been waiting for, the games look great on the small screen.

Rockman999

The euro store sucks, no Resident evil, oddworld, Grandia

Here's the Euro store PS1 games

A bug's life

Bishi Bashi Special

Crash Banidicoot

Future cop LAPD

Extreme Pinball

Crash bandicoot 3

G-police

James Pond 2

Judge Dredd

MediEvil

Magic Carpet

Jumping flash

MGS

Tom Clancys Rainbow six

Airboat Racing

CTR Crash team racing

Destruction dery

Jet Rider

Hi-Octane

Hardcore 4X4

Jet Rider 2

Motorhead

N20

Wipeout

Lio &Stitch

Tarzan

Hercules

The little Mermaid 2

Monsters Inc

Peter Pan

Winnie the pooh

Spin Jam

Superstar Dance club

FF 7

FF 8

Vagrant Story

Jigsaw Madness

Kula World

Sheep

Spin Jam

sorcerers Maze

Guilty Gear

Street Figher Alpha

Syphon filter

syphon filter 3

Championship Bass

Cool Boarders

International Track & field

Street Skater

Reel Fishing

Junior League Soccer

Street Skater 2

Command and conquer

C & C Red Alert

C& C retaliation

Populous

Creatures 3

Constructor

SimCity 2000

Syndicate Wars

Theme park

Theme Hospital

They should just call it PS one games and not PS one classics

I already have a good working Final Fantasy IX game so I will have to passed on this.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"] I have it as one of my favorite games of all time. :Ptexasgoldrush

A lot of people love it, which is why I was really looking forward to it. I played it and found every single aspect of the game generic. Go figure. :/

Really wish I could have been more impressed by it, but now I'm thinking of selling it tbh.

texasgoldrush, you never disappoint. :lol:

Here's your homework: Learn the difference between cliche's and archetypes.

P.S. I played the Japanese ver; "Bad translation" isn't going to cut it.

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

In my experience, I've found that the PS3 emulation looked better. Strangely enough the game looks best when I use the "stretch to fit" feature on the PS3 and then switch to a 4:3 resolution on my TV. I don't know why.

WilliamRLBaker

Actually, I found that 2D looks worse. I don't mind seeing the jagged edges of the 3D and all of the pixels you weren't able to see before. It doesn't bother me. What does bother me is 2D images. For some reason, no matter what the system they come out all garbled. Its like there's garbage on top of all of the sprites. I noticed this on Saturn and on PS3, both in games that are full 2D or games that are 2D against a 3D background like Grandia or Xenogears.

What do you have your PS2 hooked up with? Composite or component?

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

A lot of people love it, which is why I was really looking forward to it. I played it and found every single aspect of the game generic. Go figure. :/

Really wish I could have been more impressed by it, but now I'm thinking of selling it tbh.

hakanakumono

texasgoldrush, you never disappoint. :lol:

Here's your homework: Learn the difference between cliche's and archetypes.

P.S. I played the Japanese ver; "Bad translation" isn't going to cut it.

Sorry, Suikoden II's script is good, even in the English version. Unlike FF Tactics, Suikoden II's translation was quite clear. Its the spelling mistakes and lack of proofreading that hurt it. There is a reason why the vast majority of people who played the game absolutely love it...in fact, its one of the only games that has a 10.0 user score on Metacritic. The reason its not more well known is because the game is rare.

Xenogears is cliched, even for its time...but thats not my biggest problem with it, its the pacing and the unecessary convoluted plotline, as it feels forced. What plagues JRPGs are cliches, not archetypes. They have worn out many of their common storytelling aspects.

Yeeeeeeeeeeaaahhh!!!!

My personal favorite Final Fantasy of all-time!

Sorry, Suikoden II's script is good, even in the English version. Unlike FF Tactics, Suikoden II's translation was quite clear. Its the spelling mistakes and lack of proofreading that hurt it. There is a reason why the vast majority of people who played the game absolutely love it...in fact, its one of the only games that has a 10.0 user score on Metacritic. The reason its not more well known is because the game is rare.

Xenogears is cliched, even for its time...but thats not my biggest problem with it, its the pacing and the unecessary convoluted plotline, as it feels forced. What plagues JRPGs are cliches, not archetypes. They have worn out many of their common storytelling aspects.

texasgoldrush

Sure.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Sorry, Suikoden II's script is good, even in the English version. Unlike FF Tactics, Suikoden II's translation was quite clear. Its the spelling mistakes and lack of proofreading that hurt it. There is a reason why the vast majority of people who played the game absolutely love it...in fact, its one of the only games that has a 10.0 user score on Metacritic. The reason its not more well known is because the game is rare.

Xenogears is cliched, even for its time...but thats not my biggest problem with it, its the pacing and the unecessary convoluted plotline, as it feels forced. What plagues JRPGs are cliches, not archetypes. They have worn out many of their common storytelling aspects.

hakanakumono

Sure.

Suikoden II is a near perfect story...the characters are great, the themes it presents are excellent, the plot is uncliched while staying in the spirit of the series, and has memorable moments. Its also has WRPG qualities like exploration, doing side quests that impact the main story, and moral decisions at some parts that affect the outcome of the game. The battle system is refreshingly fast as well and random encounters are less of a problem with the Let Go feature.

Square should just make every single FF on a bluray disc. I don't even want updated graphics just all the main FF's (11).

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Sorry, Suikoden II's script is good, even in the English version. Unlike FF Tactics, Suikoden II's translation was quite clear. Its the spelling mistakes and lack of proofreading that hurt it. There is a reason why the vast majority of people who played the game absolutely love it...in fact, its one of the only games that has a 10.0 user score on Metacritic. The reason its not more well known is because the game is rare.

Xenogears is cliched, even for its time...but thats not my biggest problem with it, its the pacing and the unecessary convoluted plotline, as it feels forced. What plagues JRPGs are cliches, not archetypes. They have worn out many of their common storytelling aspects.

texasgoldrush

Sure.

Is that your blog?

Top 10 PSX RPGs

Looks like Xenogears is #1 on this one.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Sure.

hakanakumono

Is that your blog?

nope

he ranks Chrono Cross too high and I have not played Grandia.

Here is one for console RPGs in general..

http://www.gamelemon.com/article_30010.jsp

#3 and take a wild guess on whats #1

You should definitely play Grandia, I don't think you would have much trouble understanding it.

You should definitely play Grandia, I don't think you would have much trouble understanding it.

hakanakumono

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] WRONG Suikoden II's story is very unique to the genre and uncliched, unlike most JRPGs including Xenogears. In fact, even with one of the most evil villains in history of gaming, its not a good vs evil story. Its not a save the world story either. In fact, its really about saving a friendship. Everything else, including the war, is just a backdrop. Extremely uncliched, and when there is cliches, most of the time, they subvert it, like the youth hero (his youth is looked in a tragic light not a heroic one). The only real problem with Suikoden II is the localization. The script isn't bad, they just didn't proofread it.texasgoldrush

texasgoldrush, you never disappoint. :lol:

Here's your homework: Learn the difference between cliche's and archetypes.

P.S. I played the Japanese ver; "Bad translation" isn't going to cut it.

Sorry, Suikoden II's script is good, even in the English version. Unlike FF Tactics, Suikoden II's translation was quite clear. Its the spelling mistakes and lack of proofreading that hurt it. There is a reason why the vast majority of people who played the game absolutely love it...in fact, its one of the only games that has a 10.0 user score on Metacritic. The reason its not more well known is because the game is rare.

Xenogears is cliched, even for its time...but thats not my biggest problem with it, its the pacing and the unecessary convoluted plotline, as it feels forced. What plagues JRPGs are cliches, not archetypes. They have worn out many of their common storytelling aspects.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

You should definitely play Grandia, I don't think you would have much trouble understanding it.

texasgoldrush

Sure.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

texasgoldrush, you never disappoint. :lol:

Here's your homework: Learn the difference between cliche's and archetypes.

P.S. I played the Japanese ver; "Bad translation" isn't going to cut it.

Rockman999

Sorry, Suikoden II's script is good, even in the English version. Unlike FF Tactics, Suikoden II's translation was quite clear. Its the spelling mistakes and lack of proofreading that hurt it. There is a reason why the vast majority of people who played the game absolutely love it...in fact, its one of the only games that has a 10.0 user score on Metacritic. The reason its not more well known is because the game is rare.

Xenogears is cliched, even for its time...but thats not my biggest problem with it, its the pacing and the unecessary convoluted plotline, as it feels forced. What plagues JRPGs are cliches, not archetypes. They have worn out many of their common storytelling aspects.

SPOILER FOR XENOGEARS

No, Grahf is actually an incarnation of Lacan, Fei's father. But you're right. Xenogeras is one of the most original JRPG plots out there. Don't worry about texasgoldrush, he's not really worth the time.

Not sure if anyone keep up with PSN charts but Final Fantasy VII ever since it was releaed on PSN last year on E3 the game been always the top selling game on there and Final Fantasy VIII comes close to second. now that we have FFVII and FFVIII it was a matter of time till FFIX gets annouced. Square Enix producer Shinji Hashimoto tweeted that more info on the downloadable version will be coming next week. yup now that FFIX is coming to PSN hopefully Sony and Square will release FFX and FFX-2 on 1 blu-ray with tropheis :D

Link

finalstar2007

[QUOTE="Rockman999"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Sorry, Suikoden II's script is good, even in the English version. Unlike FF Tactics, Suikoden II's translation was quite clear. Its the spelling mistakes and lack of proofreading that hurt it. There is a reason why the vast majority of people who played the game absolutely love it...in fact, its one of the only games that has a 10.0 user score on Metacritic. The reason its not more well known is because the game is rare.

Xenogears is cliched, even for its time...but thats not my biggest problem with it, its the pacing and the unecessary convoluted plotline, as it feels forced. What plagues JRPGs are cliches, not archetypes. They have worn out many of their common storytelling aspects.

hakanakumono

SPOILER FOR XENOGEARS

No, Grahf is actually an incarnation of Lacan, Fei's father. But you're right. Xenogeras is one of the most original JRPG plots out there. Don't worry about texasgoldrush, he's not really worth the time.

Still got my PS1 copy so I'm set.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]Cliched, really? How many JRPGs have you played were one of the main antagonists is actually one of the main character's many personalitie and you fight against God in giant robots? BTW Hakanakumono, it's been a while but wasn't Garf(or Graf I forget) partially one of the Fei's past incarnation?Ibacai

SPOILER FOR XENOGEARS

No, Grahf is actually an incarnation of Lacan, Fei's father. But you're right. Xenogeras is one of the most original JRPG plots out there. Don't worry about texasgoldrush, he's not really worth the time.

Sorry, I didn't word it very well.

Hopefully sqaure publishs there other great PS1 era RPGS

And other companies do.

Sorry, I didn't word it very well.hakanakumono

does anyone else hate zidane? his character looks so cheesy.LenGen

Xenogears is my favorite RPG of all time.

It was pretty obvious it was coming soon. Anyways, I played it just over a year ago, so I'll wait on getting it for a bit.

What I really want is an announcement on Chrono Cross coming to psn.

VII, VIII and now IX....absolutely awesome. Milkage it may be but who cares?!? And the fact I can play them on PSP too might just convince me to finally buy one so I have all the PS1 final fantasies on the move.

VII, VIII and now IX....absolutely awesome. Milkage it may be but who cares?!? And the fact I can play them on PSP too might just convince me to finally buy one so I have all the PS1 final fantasies on the move.

Kan0nF0dder

[QUOTE="Rockman999"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Sorry, Suikoden II's script is good, even in the English version. Unlike FF Tactics, Suikoden II's translation was quite clear. Its the spelling mistakes and lack of proofreading that hurt it. There is a reason why the vast majority of people who played the game absolutely love it...in fact, its one of the only games that has a 10.0 user score on Metacritic. The reason its not more well known is because the game is rare.

Xenogears is cliched, even for its time...but thats not my biggest problem with it, its the pacing and the unecessary convoluted plotline, as it feels forced. What plagues JRPGs are cliches, not archetypes. They have worn out many of their common storytelling aspects.

SPOILER FOR XENOGEARS

No, Grahf is actually an incarnation of Lacan, Fei's father. But you're right. Xenogeras is one of the most original JRPG plots out there. Don't worry about texasgoldrush, he's not really worth the time.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]Cliched, really? How many JRPGs have you played were one of the main antagonists is actually one of the main character's many personalitie and you fight against God in giant robots? BTW Hakanakumono, it's been a while but wasn't Garf(or Graf I forget) partially one of the Fei's past incarnation?texasgoldrush

SPOILER FOR XENOGEARS

No, Grahf is actually an incarnation of Lacan, Fei's father. But you're right. Xenogeras is one of the most original JRPG plots out there. Don't worry about texasgoldrush, he's not really worth the time.

fighting God or religiontexasgoldrush

It sounds like you don't have a very good understanding of Xenogears.

Anyways, humans rising up against powerful oppressive forces is an archetype held by many stories. As for fighting Gods or religion specifically, no it wasn't very common in JRPGs. The only game I can think of was fighting YHWH in one of the original Megaten games (which I only know about because I read about the series). But Xenogears isn't about "fighting God or religion," and anyone who claims this probably doesn't have a very good understanding of the game. Furthermore, sometimes it's how things are handled that set them apart.

[QUOTE="Rockman999"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Sorry, Suikoden II's script is good, even in the English version. Unlike FF Tactics, Suikoden II's translation was quite clear. Its the spelling mistakes and lack of proofreading that hurt it. There is a reason why the vast majority of people who played the game absolutely love it...in fact, its one of the only games that has a 10.0 user score on Metacritic. The reason its not more well known is because the game is rare.

Xenogears is cliched, even for its time...but thats not my biggest problem with it, its the pacing and the unecessary convoluted plotline, as it feels forced. What plagues JRPGs are cliches, not archetypes. They have worn out many of their common storytelling aspects.

hakanakumono

SPOILER FOR XENOGEARS

No, Grahf is actually an incarnation of Lacan, Fei's father. But you're right. Xenogeras is one of the most original JRPG plots out there. Don't worry about texasgoldrush, he's not really worth the time.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]fighting God or religionhakanakumono

It sounds like you don't have a very good understanding of Xenogears.

Anyways, humans rising up against powerful oppressive forces is an archetype held by many stories. As for fighting Gods or religion specifically, no it wasn't very common in JRPGs. The only game I can think of was fighting YHWH in one of the original Megaten games (which I only know about because I read about the series). But Xenogears isn't about "fighting God or religion," and anyone who claims this probably doesn't have a very good understanding of the game. Furthermore, sometimes it's how things are handled that set them apart.

One of the best battle systems ever, but story was pretty forgettable.