Explain why Kinect is in every Xbox One SKU?

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#101 Edited by Opus_Rea-333 (1146 posts) -

@YearoftheSnake5 said:

To let the NSA watch you fap while you watch porn and play Forza at the same time.

who watches porn anyway when theres real- woman looking for a man.

Seriously it kinda explain why porn flash sites are the most used PS4 feature.

and the fact theres barely any games.

#102 Edited by Opus_Rea-333 (1146 posts) -

@ninjapirate2000 said:

Doesn't it make more sense to pack it in, in every SKU? I mean the kinect isn't that great but making a peripheral would diminish it to just a peripheral.

Since it's in every box developers can develop each game and add kinect functionality and know that they are not limiting their audience.

yep this aswell, also it will help when VR comes out, since basically All Xbox One users are with the camera already.

Is like complaining about A 500 PC/or a NVidia or ATI gpu that came with a free Windows/game copy (you can throw them to garbage and still use the main equipment normally,this case just unplug Kinect and be done with it),

why would i complain about the free software and the free-optional hardware?

#103 Posted by arkephonic (6702 posts) -

@Opus_Rea-333:

Except for it's nothing like that. I have a hard time believing anyone here would downgrade their CPU, gpu, and ram just so they could get a free copy of windows on their new gaming PC. You're acting like concessions weren't made to shoehorn Kinect in the box. The system specs took a big hit.

#104 Posted by JonnyBigBoss (25 posts) -

@Couth_: This is a good response.

For the record, I love the Kinect. However, I want the Xbox One to be as successful as possible and if most consumers don't want Kinect, don't bundle it.

#105 Posted by lostrib (43996 posts) -

@Opus_Rea-333 said:

@YearoftheSnake5 said:

To let the NSA watch you fap while you watch porn and play Forza at the same time.

who watches porn anyway when theres real- woman looking for a man.

Seriously it kinda explain why porn flash sites are the most used PS4 feature.

and the fact theres barely any games.

Pretty much every dude

#107 Edited by Opus_Rea-333 (1146 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@Opus_Rea-333 said:

@YearoftheSnake5 said:

To let the NSA watch you fap while you watch porn and play Forza at the same time.

who watches porn anyway when theres real- woman looking for a man.

Seriously it kinda explain why porn flash sites are the most used PS4 feature.

and the fact theres barely any games.

Pretty much every dude

haha oh brother thats why Woman are becoming lesbians then, Porn kinda affeminate man and woman internally hates guys who do porn.

But again im not saying Porn is bad, it is a choice.

my point of view.

#108 Posted by lostrib (43996 posts) -

@Opus_Rea-333 said:

@lostrib said:

@Opus_Rea-333 said:

@YearoftheSnake5 said:

To let the NSA watch you fap while you watch porn and play Forza at the same time.

who watches porn anyway when theres real- woman looking for a man.

Seriously it kinda explain why porn flash sites are the most used PS4 feature.

and the fact theres barely any games.

Pretty much every dude

haha oh brother thats why Woman are becoming lesbians then, Porn kinda affeminate man and woman internally hates guys who do porn.

But again im not saying Porn is bad, it is a choice.

my point of view.

...did you delete your previous post and then quote and post again?

#109 Edited by Opus_Rea-333 (1146 posts) -
@lostrib said:

@Opus_Rea-333 said:

@lostrib said:

@Opus_Rea-333 said:

who watches porn anyway when theres real- woman looking for a man.

Seriously it kinda explain why porn flash sites are the most used PS4 feature.

and the fact theres barely any games.

Pretty much every dude

haha oh brother thats why Woman are becoming lesbians then, Porn kinda affeminate man and woman internally hates guys who do porn.

But again im not saying Porn is bad, it is a choice.

my point of view.

...did you delete your previous post and then quote and post again?

I deleted it and quoted your same comment again.

But yea us man can quit from Porn and restore our love life easily. not a big deal i guess.

But im not into it. It is so fake.

#110 Edited by misterpmedia (4610 posts) -

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia said:

@mems_1224 said:

@arkephonic said:

@mems_1224:

Riiiiiight. The fact that PS4 is outselling the Xbox One by such a large margin pretty much proves my point. This mandatory Kinect hikes the price up $100 bucks. So tell me, which games justify the $100 and make great use of the Kinect?

Which games justify spending $400 on a PS4 and make great use of the hardware? None. Thanks for playing.

Translation: "Grrrr this is my angry opinion rawrrr. Stop liking what I don't like! Stop asking the questions I can't answer rawr!"

Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black. Seriously you're a sad pathetic individual. This thread was started by a cow. Most threads are started by cows bashing MS. If anyone is guilty of "stop liking what I don't" it's you moronic cows.

You're a bunch of clowns

Cows, the jokes of SWs

lol when lems have nothing to say they always take it personal. Look lil buddy, I know you're cute an'all but you typing out swears into a comment box ain't really going to effect me personally. Think about that next time you let those chubby fingers at the keyboard. At least wipe the cheetos from them, your mum has to use the comp for work remember!

Also stop trying to be kuu2. You are irrelevant on this board.

<3

#111 Posted by tdkmillsy (1768 posts) -

Kinect has very neat features that hardcore players that play on their own may not experience.

Uses that have been useful so far.

Just Dance - awesome how it can now see a 4 year old a 6 foot+ chap 5 feet away. We just get up and play.

Zoo Tycoon - kids love feeding animals

Skype - awesome use of Kinect, kids talk to grandparents

Volume control - just awesome now it moves up more than 3 notches

Hiding things inappropriate to people in the room - daughter scared of Dead Rising image for example. Kinect see's her, hides it, plus she cant play the game. Auto sign in really useful.

Kinect Sports will be first game to make full use of it.

Xbox Fitness is really good with Kinect

Project Spark - putting yourself in games

Where in the rules does it say Kinect (or indeed the Xbox) has to only cater for hardcore gamers.

This is just the start future stuff could include:-

Scanning players into call of duty type games. Killing your mates

Horror games, dark room with Kinect monitoring your actions.

and loads more

#112 Posted by groowagon (3118 posts) -

@getyeryayasout said:

@mems_1224 said:

Anyone with half a brain can see why MS chose to include it with every system.

Agreed. People with half a brain should love Kinect.

yes. the individuals who are blessed with a full brain, though, know to stay away.

Kinect, fun for the half-brained.

#113 Posted by getyeryayasout (8680 posts) -

@groowagon said:

@getyeryayasout said:

@mems_1224 said:

Anyone with half a brain can see why MS chose to include it with every system.

Agreed. People with half a brain should love Kinect.

yes. the individuals who are blessed with a full brain, though, know to stay away.

Kinect, fun for the half-brained.

Yep. That's the joke. Although I liked the way I told it better. Less...wordy.

#114 Posted by thegamer00 (153 posts) -

Adds unbelievable value tc.

#115 Posted by The_Last_Ride (75080 posts) -

@arkephonic: According to MS at the reveal, it is rocket science... It's a gimmick and there is no way in hell anyone can justify it other than just being lazy and not picking up controllers or remotes

#116 Edited by tdkmillsy (1768 posts) -

@The_Last_Ride said:

@arkephonic: According to MS at the reveal, it is rocket science... It's a gimmick and there is no way in hell anyone can justify it other than just being lazy and not picking up controllers or remotes

If its such a gimmick why is the PS Eye selling for the PS4.

#117 Posted by Flubbbs (3744 posts) -

have you never heard of PRISM? which Microsoft is apart of

#118 Posted by Silent-Assasin7 (1496 posts) -

The price difference and the inclusion of Kinect is probably not the main thing causing people to buy a PS4 over XBO. The proof of that claim is the facts that the PS Camera (piece of garbage compared to Kinect) is flying off the shelves, and, with the price drops and Titanfall bundles, XBO is actually around the same pricepoint as PS4 now anyway (plus added value of the bundles hardware). The real truth is that Sony capitalized on MS's rocky marketing campaign under Mattrick, and now people are simply buying PS4's because of how "cool" Sony seemed.

Infamous is the first game on PS4 worth owning and it's not even that good. XBO had a very strong launch lineup and it has TF which was easily the best game shown at E3, and is currently one of if not the best games on the market. Do I think XBO should be outselling PS4 worldwide on Titanfall alone? No. But, if consumers weren't thinking with their ass the sales would be very close. There's nothing out right now that logically explains why the PS4 is outselling the XBO by a fairly large margin.

#119 Posted by The_Last_Ride (75080 posts) -

@tdkmillsy said:

@The_Last_Ride said:

@arkephonic: According to MS at the reveal, it is rocket science... It's a gimmick and there is no way in hell anyone can justify it other than just being lazy and not picking up controllers or remotes

If its such a gimmick why is the PS Eye selling for the PS4.

It's not bundled in? And it is more accurate. Best of all, it's not bundled in...

#120 Posted by Xplode_games (617 posts) -

@arkephonic said:

I always see people say the reason is so every Xbox One owner will have a Kinect and that will encourage developers to incorporate it into their games. However, I have yet to see it used in any meaningful way that screams, "you need this thing". So far, it looks to me like it could have been entirely optional and even then, it'd barely even be used because it's getting no support. I was pretty shocked how at E3, they didn't show any games using Kinect in a meaningful way and they haven't really shown anything since other than Kinect Sports. They're doing a bad job of justifying the mandatory inclusion of this peripheral which is responsible for the $100 price difference.

Is kinect your daddy?

#121 Edited by bloodlust_101 (2721 posts) -

@Opus_Rea-333 said:

Kinect makes MS afford brilliant games while keeping losses at a minimum

that why Cows/Sony fanatic hate it.

maybe MS makes money out of it not sure.

Please, do elaborate on that.

#122 Posted by kingtito (5353 posts) -

@misterpmedia said:

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia said:

@mems_1224 said:

@arkephonic said:

@mems_1224:

Riiiiiight. The fact that PS4 is outselling the Xbox One by such a large margin pretty much proves my point. This mandatory Kinect hikes the price up $100 bucks. So tell me, which games justify the $100 and make great use of the Kinect?

Which games justify spending $400 on a PS4 and make great use of the hardware? None. Thanks for playing.

Translation: "Grrrr this is my angry opinion rawrrr. Stop liking what I don't like! Stop asking the questions I can't answer rawr!"

Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black. Seriously you're a sad pathetic individual. This thread was started by a cow. Most threads are started by cows bashing MS. If anyone is guilty of "stop liking what I don't" it's you moronic cows.

You're a bunch of clowns

Cows, the jokes of SWs

lol when lems have nothing to say they always take it personal. Look lil buddy, I know you're cute an'all but you typing out swears into a comment box ain't really going to effect me personally. Think about that next time you let those chubby fingers at the keyboard. At least wipe the cheetos from them, your mum has to use the comp for work remember!

Also stop trying to be kuu2. You are irrelevant on this board.

<3

What swear words kid? Do you even bother to read? I doubt it since you didn't address anything I said in my post. Typical loser cow behavior

Whatever you say kid. Go moooo to someone else loser.

Yet you take the time to respond to me. Yeah that's what I thought kid,

#123 Edited by misterpmedia (4610 posts) -

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia said:

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia said:

@mems_1224 said:

@arkephonic said:

@mems_1224:

Riiiiiight. The fact that PS4 is outselling the Xbox One by such a large margin pretty much proves my point. This mandatory Kinect hikes the price up $100 bucks. So tell me, which games justify the $100 and make great use of the Kinect?

Which games justify spending $400 on a PS4 and make great use of the hardware? None. Thanks for playing.

Translation: "Grrrr this is my angry opinion rawrrr. Stop liking what I don't like! Stop asking the questions I can't answer rawr!"

Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black. Seriously you're a sad pathetic individual. This thread was started by a cow. Most threads are started by cows bashing MS. If anyone is guilty of "stop liking what I don't" it's you moronic cows.

You're a bunch of clowns

Cows, the jokes of SWs

lol when lems have nothing to say they always take it personal. Look lil buddy, I know you're cute an'all but you typing out swears into a comment box ain't really going to effect me personally. Think about that next time you let those chubby fingers at the keyboard. At least wipe the cheetos from them, your mum has to use the comp for work remember!

Also stop trying to be kuu2. You are irrelevant on this board.

<3

What swear words kid? Do you even bother to read? I doubt it since you didn't address anything I said in my post. Typical loser cow behavior

Whatever you say kid. Go moooo to someone else loser.

Yet you take the time to respond to me. Yeah that's what I thought kid,

your comment was nothing but thread whining, therefore my comment didn't have to do with anything in you post.

When you've stopped being a clown maybe one day you'll get an audience with the nobles. Keep reaching cutey. You'll always be bottomlem.

#124 Posted by kingtito (5353 posts) -

@misterpmedia said:

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia said:

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia said:

@mems_1224 said:

@arkephonic said:

@mems_1224:

Riiiiiight. The fact that PS4 is outselling the Xbox One by such a large margin pretty much proves my point. This mandatory Kinect hikes the price up $100 bucks. So tell me, which games justify the $100 and make great use of the Kinect?

Which games justify spending $400 on a PS4 and make great use of the hardware? None. Thanks for playing.

Translation: "Grrrr this is my angry opinion rawrrr. Stop liking what I don't like! Stop asking the questions I can't answer rawr!"

Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black. Seriously you're a sad pathetic individual. This thread was started by a cow. Most threads are started by cows bashing MS. If anyone is guilty of "stop liking what I don't" it's you moronic cows.

You're a bunch of clowns

Cows, the jokes of SWs

lol when lems have nothing to say they always take it personal. Look lil buddy, I know you're cute an'all but you typing out swears into a comment box ain't really going to effect me personally. Think about that next time you let those chubby fingers at the keyboard. At least wipe the cheetos from them, your mum has to use the comp for work remember!

Also stop trying to be kuu2. You are irrelevant on this board.

<3

What swear words kid? Do you even bother to read? I doubt it since you didn't address anything I said in my post. Typical loser cow behavior

Whatever you say kid. Go moooo to someone else loser.

Yet you take the time to respond to me. Yeah that's what I thought kid,

your comment was nothing but thread whining, therefore my comment didn't have to do with anything in you post.

When you've stopped being a clown maybe one day you'll get an audience with the nobles. Keep reaching cutey. You'll always be bottomlem.

So basically you're just the typical hypocrite cow. Got it, mooooo along kid

Cows, the jokes of SWs

#125 Posted by Xplode_games (617 posts) -

@Silent-Assasin7 said:

The price difference and the inclusion of Kinect is probably not the main thing causing people to buy a PS4 over XBO. The proof of that claim is the facts that the PS Camera (piece of garbage compared to Kinect) is flying off the shelves, and, with the price drops and Titanfall bundles, XBO is actually around the same pricepoint as PS4 now anyway (plus added value of the bundles hardware). The real truth is that Sony capitalized on MS's rocky marketing campaign under Mattrick, and now people are simply buying PS4's because of how "cool" Sony seemed.

Infamous is the first game on PS4 worth owning and it's not even that good. XBO had a very strong launch lineup and it has TF which was easily the best game shown at E3, and is currently one of if not the best games on the market. Do I think XBO should be outselling PS4 worldwide on Titanfall alone? No. But, if consumers weren't thinking with their ass the sales would be very close. There's nothing out right now that logically explains why the PS4 is outselling the XBO by a fairly large margin.

Well, value is one thing but when a consumer gets to the store, it sees the X1 at $450 and the PS4 at $400. Now this may be pretty even now since the X1 includes a good game but it's always better to be $400 and choose the game you want.

Even so, the X1 with that new bundle is selling on pace with the PS4.

The reason the PS4 is ahead is due to the launch window where the X1 was $500 vs $400 for PS4. Very big disadvantage right there that explains the X1 sales woes.

#126 Posted by clone01 (25424 posts) -

Teh conspiracy.

#127 Edited by jsmoke03 (13345 posts) -

@arkephonic said:

I always see people say the reason is so every Xbox One owner will have a Kinect and that will encourage developers to incorporate it into their games. However, I have yet to see it used in any meaningful way that screams, "you need this thing". So far, it looks to me like it could have been entirely optional and even then, it'd barely even be used because it's getting no support. I was pretty shocked how at E3, they didn't show any games using Kinect in a meaningful way and they haven't really shown anything since other than Kinect Sports. They're doing a bad job of justifying the mandatory inclusion of this peripheral which is responsible for the $100 price difference.

its not about what is done or the quality if its done because ms cant force devs to use it, but what they did do is make it so the option is attractive if a dev implements it.

i think its cool for navigating menus, but i still think its unnecessary and i absolutely hate motion gaming.

#128 Posted by misterpmedia (4610 posts) -

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia said:

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia said:

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia said:

@mems_1224 said:

@arkephonic said:

@mems_1224:

Riiiiiight. The fact that PS4 is outselling the Xbox One by such a large margin pretty much proves my point. This mandatory Kinect hikes the price up $100 bucks. So tell me, which games justify the $100 and make great use of the Kinect?

Which games justify spending $400 on a PS4 and make great use of the hardware? None. Thanks for playing.

Translation: "Grrrr this is my angry opinion rawrrr. Stop liking what I don't like! Stop asking the questions I can't answer rawr!"

Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black. Seriously you're a sad pathetic individual. This thread was started by a cow. Most threads are started by cows bashing MS. If anyone is guilty of "stop liking what I don't" it's you moronic cows.

You're a bunch of clowns

Cows, the jokes of SWs

lol when lems have nothing to say they always take it personal. Look lil buddy, I know you're cute an'all but you typing out swears into a comment box ain't really going to effect me personally. Think about that next time you let those chubby fingers at the keyboard. At least wipe the cheetos from them, your mum has to use the comp for work remember!

Also stop trying to be kuu2. You are irrelevant on this board.

<3

What swear words kid? Do you even bother to read? I doubt it since you didn't address anything I said in my post. Typical loser cow behavior

Whatever you say kid. Go moooo to someone else loser.

Yet you take the time to respond to me. Yeah that's what I thought kid,

your comment was nothing but thread whining, therefore my comment didn't have to do with anything in you post.

When you've stopped being a clown maybe one day you'll get an audience with the nobles. Keep reaching cutey. You'll always be bottomlem.

So basically you're just the typical hypocrite cow. Got it, mooooo along kid

Cows, the jokes of SWs

Maybe when you've got back from clown town and practised your lemdom you'll be able to be relevant on this bored.

Bottomlem gotta reach up, but always grab nothing :(.

#129 Posted by kingtito (5353 posts) -

@misterpmedia said:

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia said:

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia said:

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia said:

@mems_1224 said:

@arkephonic said:

@mems_1224:

Riiiiiight. The fact that PS4 is outselling the Xbox One by such a large margin pretty much proves my point. This mandatory Kinect hikes the price up $100 bucks. So tell me, which games justify the $100 and make great use of the Kinect?

Which games justify spending $400 on a PS4 and make great use of the hardware? None. Thanks for playing.

Translation: "Grrrr this is my angry opinion rawrrr. Stop liking what I don't like! Stop asking the questions I can't answer rawr!"

Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black. Seriously you're a sad pathetic individual. This thread was started by a cow. Most threads are started by cows bashing MS. If anyone is guilty of "stop liking what I don't" it's you moronic cows.

You're a bunch of clowns

Cows, the jokes of SWs

lol when lems have nothing to say they always take it personal. Look lil buddy, I know you're cute an'all but you typing out swears into a comment box ain't really going to effect me personally. Think about that next time you let those chubby fingers at the keyboard. At least wipe the cheetos from them, your mum has to use the comp for work remember!

Also stop trying to be kuu2. You are irrelevant on this board.

<3

What swear words kid? Do you even bother to read? I doubt it since you didn't address anything I said in my post. Typical loser cow behavior

Whatever you say kid. Go moooo to someone else loser.

Yet you take the time to respond to me. Yeah that's what I thought kid,

your comment was nothing but thread whining, therefore my comment didn't have to do with anything in you post.

When you've stopped being a clown maybe one day you'll get an audience with the nobles. Keep reaching cutey. You'll always be bottomlem.

So basically you're just the typical hypocrite cow. Got it, mooooo along kid

Cows, the jokes of SWs

Maybe when you've got back from clown town and practised your lemdom you'll be able to be relevant on this bored.

Bottomlem gotta reach up, but always grab nothing :(.

Keep proving my point loser cow. Moooooing just like the hypocrites we all know cows to be

Cows, the jokes of SWs

#130 Posted by misterpmedia (4610 posts) -

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia said:

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia said:

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia said:

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia said:

@mems_1224 said:

@arkephonic said:

@mems_1224:

Riiiiiight. The fact that PS4 is outselling the Xbox One by such a large margin pretty much proves my point. This mandatory Kinect hikes the price up $100 bucks. So tell me, which games justify the $100 and make great use of the Kinect?

Which games justify spending $400 on a PS4 and make great use of the hardware? None. Thanks for playing.

Translation: "Grrrr this is my angry opinion rawrrr. Stop liking what I don't like! Stop asking the questions I can't answer rawr!"

Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black. Seriously you're a sad pathetic individual. This thread was started by a cow. Most threads are started by cows bashing MS. If anyone is guilty of "stop liking what I don't" it's you moronic cows.

You're a bunch of clowns

Cows, the jokes of SWs

lol when lems have nothing to say they always take it personal. Look lil buddy, I know you're cute an'all but you typing out swears into a comment box ain't really going to effect me personally. Think about that next time you let those chubby fingers at the keyboard. At least wipe the cheetos from them, your mum has to use the comp for work remember!

Also stop trying to be kuu2. You are irrelevant on this board.

<3

What swear words kid? Do you even bother to read? I doubt it since you didn't address anything I said in my post. Typical loser cow behavior

Whatever you say kid. Go moooo to someone else loser.

Yet you take the time to respond to me. Yeah that's what I thought kid,

your comment was nothing but thread whining, therefore my comment didn't have to do with anything in you post.

When you've stopped being a clown maybe one day you'll get an audience with the nobles. Keep reaching cutey. You'll always be bottomlem.

So basically you're just the typical hypocrite cow. Got it, mooooo along kid

Cows, the jokes of SWs

Maybe when you've got back from clown town and practised your lemdom you'll be able to be relevant on this bored.

Bottomlem gotta reach up, but always grab nothing :(.

Keep proving my point loser cow. Moooooing just like the hypocrites we all know cows to be

Cows, the jokes of SWs

You've yet to make a point. Bottomlems always forget to apply logic to comments.

Bottomlem gonna bottom.

#131 Posted by kingtito (5353 posts) -

@misterpmedia: Wrong kid, you just ignored it like the hypocrite loser cow you are. Moooo along, I grow tired of you.

Cows, the jokes of SWs

#132 Posted by misterpmedia (4610 posts) -

@kingtito said:

@misterpmedia: Wrong kid, you just ignored it like the hypocrite loser cow you are. Moooo along, I grow tired of you.

Cows, the jokes of SWs

What other barnyard noises do you know bottomlem? This seems to be your area of expertise. Ignored what? Exactly.

Bottomlem gonna clown at the bottom.