Let's face the facts, guys. We are almost a page in this thread and no one can say how the Kinect is good for games. No one can point out any games that use it well or any games in the future that could potentially use it well. Let's face it, Kinect isn't good for video games. It sucks as a controller, period. There's nothing Kinect can do that a controller can't do 100 times better. Like many others have pointed out, Kinect had many years on the 360 to prove its worth and never could. This gen appears to me more of the same. After all, it's the same exact device, just slightly improved. It was basically relegated to dance games and could be shoe horned in to ultra casual games like Kinect sports. It will never be used in a real game with competitive gameplay because you can't have competitive gameplay without good controls.
Now I've seen people mention that Kinect isn't for games. They argue that Kinect is a peek into the future regarding how we will control UI. Although the tech isn't there yet judging by how it only works half the time, these people don't mind paying for it because they're paving the way to the future. They are paying top dollar to be testers. Guess what, guys? There are jobs out there that pay you to be a tester for things like Kinect. If you really wanna pave the way, go get a testing job and offer real input that could actually influence it. Paying top dollar to line ms's execs' pockets for a faulty product that is still in its infancy and far from good is the epitome of a waste of money.
Here's the real kicker, though. Xbox One is a video game console. Kinect, as proven ITT, sucks for video games. By putting Kinect in every SKU, Microsoft made the actual video games worse. This is what I keep saying and people keep ignoring, probably because it's a major flaw and people just don't want to accept it.
Here, I'll say it again and single it out of a paragraph and leave it all on its own.
By including the Kinect in every SKU, they had to castrate the specs of the system to still make it affordable. Every video game ever made for Xbone will now be worse because of the mandatory inclusion of Kinect. To add insult to injury, Kinect does nothing to improve video games. Kinect literally makes every single game on Xbone worse, even games that don't use it at all. Kinect is responsible for all the inferior multiplats. It's responsible for 720p games. It's responsible for lower frame rates and other performance issues. It's basically responsible for everything wrong with the system, including the price.
All these negatives just so you can talk to your system and wave your hands around trying to get it to respond half the time when a controller works 100% of the time? And it isn't even any good for VIDEO GAMES? Sounds like a fair trade off.
It will be useful for kinect games. Also, the x1 (and PS4) isn't just a game console