sounds like a major blown against steam,origin and developers too
eurogamer
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How the heck do I resell a downloaded game?charizard1605So basically it's selling the license (CD key for example).
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]How the heck do I resell a downloaded game?parkurtommoSo basically it's selling the license (CD key for example). Sounds like it'd be a pain.
what do you mean by outdated law? i think this was passed todayWow, the legislators need to get on this. Thsi is absolutley an outdated law/interpretation of a law. It is unworkable and unfeasable.
Kinthalis
Valve and EA trolled by EU :pWait,so this would mean Steam,and similiar services couldn't force you anymore to permanently tie your games to their DRM app?
Rocker6
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]How the heck do I resell a downloaded game?parkurtommoI'm wondering this too. sell your account.
This makes no sense. Yes they can't "stop" you, but that's because they woudn't have to. You can't sell a downloaded game and they know that. What a silly, outdated law...
This will result in nothing more than a terms of use change I'm betting. JohnF111Derp, that's the whole point. Those terms of use are illegal and can't forbid you to sell your games, no matter what's in there.
technically since the only method of selling your games would be to sell the account then it being your only avenue I believe its covered under the law by proxy I could be wrong.This makes no sense. Yes they can't "stop" you, but that's because they woudn't have to. You can't sell a downloaded game and they know that. What a silly, outdated law...
Shenmue_Jehuty
This makes no sense. Yes they can't "stop" you, but that's because they woudn't have to. You can't sell a downloaded game and they know that. What a silly, outdated law...
Shenmue_Jehuty
How so?
You separate and remove your game(license,CD-key,etc) from your Steam account,and transfer it to another user's account...
Sounds pretty doable to me,as long as these services make separating possible.And this law would force them into it...
Did you people even read the article? It's basically about selling CD keys. "The ruling suggests that if you've bought a license for a game off your mate, you're within your rights to download it from the publisher's website."This makes no sense. Yes they can't "stop" you, but that's because they woudn't have to. You can't sell a downloaded game and they know that. What a silly, outdated law...
Shenmue_Jehuty
It's very possible to sell a downloadable game, in fact it could be much easier than physical, imagine a button on Steam next to your games, you click this button labelled "Sell" and you put in a price you want for the game. Then you get possibly an option to sell it to someone personally or add it to maybe Steam Game Market and there you go.... The game disappears from your game list and you can no longer say you own that game. Easy!This makes no sense. Yes they can't "stop" you, but that's because they woudn't have to. You can't sell a downloaded game and they know that. What a silly, outdated law...
Shenmue_Jehuty
This makes no sense. Yes they can't "stop" you, but that's because they woudn't have to. You can't sell a downloaded game and they know that. What a silly, outdated law...Shenmue_Jehuty
How the heck do I resell a downloaded game?charizard1605Nintendo is working on people to allow that on the Wii U.
How the heck do I resell a downloaded game?charizard1605
Probably means that Valve or others cannot ban you for selling your account, which Valve has done couple times in the past.
So how does this work? I mean, I can't sell a game i own on steam, because i'd have to sell my entire account. I guess the only way is to open a new account for each game purchase.
actually, on further thought, it would be smart for Valve to allow sales of their digital licences through steam, then they can take a cut (%) and its win win for them and gamers.
It is for some services that will allow you to sell digital copies of the games.So how does this work? I mean, I can't sell a game i own on steam, because i'd have to sell my entire account. I guess the only way is to open a new account for each game purchase.
actually, on further thought, it would be smart for Valve to allow sales of their digital licences through steam, then they can take a cut (%) and its win win for them and gamers.
Phazevariance
The Wii U is supposed to have a service where the user can sell used downloads to other users.
This is a huge punch to the face to Steam and its DRM bullsh*t! Down with DRM services like Steam, Origin etc..
This is a huge punch to the face to Steam and its DRM bullsh*t! Down with DRM services like Steam, Origin etc..
Click_Clock
Yeah,let's hope this all goes well.No more games permanently locked on a DRM clients would be awesome :)
Also,this decision is made by The Court of Justice of the European Union,a court that has a very high legal power,so there's a good chance of this law going into effect.Only it will probably take a year or two for it to happen...
So how does this work? I mean, I can't sell a game i own on steam, because i'd have to sell my entire account. I guess the only way is to open a new account for each game purchase.
actually, on further thought, it would be smart for Valve to allow sales of their digital licences through steam, then they can take a cut (%) and its win win for them and gamers.
Phazevariance
Well Steam can just transfer the game from your account to another one. That is easy but will Valve do it? There must be some kind of limitation so people don't abuse it though. Pay a fee for example for every resell you do.
[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]How the heck do I resell a downloaded game?charizard1605So basically it's selling the license (CD key for example). Sounds like it'd be a pain.
The ruling may require sellers of digitial content to provide tools to sell the content to other users.
That's a pretty awesome ruling.
Hmm.. I just realized one thing: This ruling also means that future consoles can't stop used game sales in EU.
[QUOTE="Icarian"]
Hmm.. I just realized one thing: This ruling also means that future consoles can't stop used game sales in EU.
Rocker6
Good point :)
In any case,if the law properly goes into effect,this is a massive win for consumer rights!
Might bugger the DD industry and mean no more huge sales. No thanks I'm happy with it the way it is and my guess the majority of PC gamers are too. All too often legislation means a mess and this is just likely to mean more DRM and less content for non-initial buyers.[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]It's very possible to sell a downloadable game, in fact it could be much easier than physical, imagine a button on Steam next to your games, you click this button labelled "Sell" and you put in a price you want for the game. Then you get possibly an option to sell it to someone personally or add it to maybe Steam Game Market and there you go.... The game disappears from your game list and you can no longer say you own that game. Easy! Yeah. If there WAS a "Sell" button on your Steam program. There isn't and the law doesn't make them have to allow you to sell their games to others. It makes no sense. How do you effectively and feasibly sell a downloaded game?This makes no sense. Yes they can't "stop" you, but that's because they woudn't have to. You can't sell a downloaded game and they know that. What a silly, outdated law...
JohnF111
[QUOTE="Phazevariance"]
So how does this work? I mean, I can't sell a game i own on steam, because i'd have to sell my entire account. I guess the only way is to open a new account for each game purchase.
actually, on further thought, it would be smart for Valve to allow sales of their digital licences through steam, then they can take a cut (%) and its win win for them and gamers.
edidili
Well Steam can just transfer the game from your account to another one. That is easy but will Valve do it? There must be some kind of limitation so people don't abuse it though. Pay a fee for example for every resell you do.
Thats why the sale would have to be through steam. One player would pay the other player for the game, and on completion of the sale, the license transfers. This gives steam the ability to take a cut since they are part of the sale.[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]It's very possible to sell a downloadable game, in fact it could be much easier than physical, imagine a button on Steam next to your games, you click this button labelled "Sell" and you put in a price you want for the game. Then you get possibly an option to sell it to someone personally or add it to maybe Steam Game Market and there you go.... The game disappears from your game list and you can no longer say you own that game. Easy! Yeah. If there WAS a "Sell" button on your Steam program. There isn't and the law doesn't make them have to allow you to sell their games to others. It makes no sense. How do you effectively and feasibly sell a downloaded game? It's not much different from Gifting a game except to receive the game you have to pay a bit of money, it's not hard. You make it sound like Steam has absolutely no ability to add a "Sell" button next to each game. It's certainly not a five year project that requires millions of dollars to implement, the "Game Market" I mentioned would be the most of the work but again nothing a small team of developers can't handle.This makes no sense. Yes they can't "stop" you, but that's because they woudn't have to. You can't sell a downloaded game and they know that. What a silly, outdated law...
NightTerrorX99
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