Dragon's Dogma 2 ANALYSIS: UPDATED adding Digital Foundry input, different analysis same results.

The tools are still coming guys, just wait a few more years...

• Xbox SX & PS5 have same base graphics settings which include RT but is not present on Xbox Series S
• PS5 & XSX render at 4k while Xbox Sereies S renders at 1440p interlaced on all formats
• Unlocked Frame on consoles, no version can run 60fps. Nor can PC lock 60fps even w 4090
• Dragons Dogma 2 is a CPU limited title that GPU power can not resolve
• Frame rate is slightly better on XSX over PS5 by a few frames until data streaming sections where PS5 takes the lead
• Reduced image quality on Xbox Seires X/S compared to PS5 & PC
• Textures, shadows, AO, alpha effects, are all worse on Xbox Series consoles presenting a blocker more pixelated image than PS5
• On PC the game starts with a shader compilation pass
• Game is currently unplayable on Steamdeak running at 14fps
• 4090 with high end CPU can get 60fps but it can not be sustain or locked at the time.

Image comparisons and details:

Resolution and image quality console differences

Images shows the dithering and lack of clarity on Xbox Series X/S compared to PS5

Images shows the visual differences in clarity and harsh dithering on the Xbox Series versions vs PS5

Xbox Series enjoys a slight advantage in frame rate some sections

Xbox Series X suffers drastically worse performance vs PS5 in data streaming heavy sections like in town

Xbox Series S is graphically the worst than PS5/X/PC showing PS1 textures with it's low ram allocation

More Xbox Series S PS1 textures on display

Steamdeck manages to be even worse graphically than XSS running at 480p an 14fps

PC - 3080 w 5800X3d running DLSS BALANCED

PC - 3080 w 5800X3d DLSS BALANCED *during data streaming sections*.

PC - 4090 w 5800X3d DLSS QUALITY *during data streaming sections*.

EDIT:

Digital Foundry analysis added

This more or less confirmed everything NXG already detailed in his analysis but somehow manged to provide less detailed information about the specific issues on each platform.

Alex Bataglia covered the PC with his 4090 and 7800X3D...USING DLSS quality....and still could not clock 60fps

Pass, 6/10. :P

At first I was hopeful that the PS5 pro could run this at 60fps.

Oh my word.

The performance on this is Dragon's Dogshit across all platforms, and few sites seemed to account for it. Disappointing. I've been nothing but impressed with the RE Engine thus far, but it's not ready for open worlds on current hardware

@R4gn4r0k: if it had 100%+beefier cpu and not 10%

I wasn't planning to play this at launch and I won't even bother playing it at all with its current state of optimization.

@above_average: My thoughts are that the comparisons are a mixed bag, but you somehow think this is a PS5 win for... what, because that's just what you want to say?

What an ugly game...

And reviewers are giving it 5/5 and 9/10. What a joke, as if the game being unplayable is not even a consideration.

i had no idea the X looked so far inferior. WHERE ARE THE TOOL, PHIL? Where are they? Not only does it look worse, it runs worse as well. What a pointless system.

Wierd. I'm all for bringing top end PC hardware to it's knees and making the consoles struggle to just about hold 30. But the flip side of that is I want it justified. I want to see it and I want it reflected in the simulation.

The original was a PS3/360 game. I remember it being rough on the PS3 but certainly playable (still have it lying around somewhere). From what i have seen of DD2 it looks like just a slightly more refined version of the first game in terms of gameplay. The graphics are also nothing special (solid art direction though).

So....why is a game that is, mechanically, basically a PS3 game bringing Zen 2 cores to their knees? I haven't played it in fairness. Maybe there are underlying physics simulations going on or something that i just haven't seen in vids.

Wait......by gods....it's Teh Cell. It truly was just that powerful all this time. Not even modern PC CPUs and GPUs can match the sheer power of Teh Cell :P j/k.

Also good game? I pretty much bounced off the first. Is this just more of the same or are there a good number of improvements?

> Terrible engine not made for this style of game

> Sub 30fps

> PC optimization is horrific

9.99% out of ten, run out and buy it right the **** now, kids.

Capcom should pay Sony to get Nixxes to fix it, at least on PC, lol.

This game is such a true sequel, that they even kept the 15fps gameplay from the original. Respect.

The game is slow pace enough to where it shouldn't make a difference... I hope. That said I'm going double Thief, so that might make it dip even lower.. guess we shall see. If it does I can always change my vocation though.

Yes PS5 Pro won't make much of a difference in this game without some major patches to address the CPU overload from Capcom

Did I say it was a "PS5 win" anywhere here?

lol I just presented the facts and posted the results.

Doesn't matter what I "say" buddy, you have eyes and a brain don't you? Use them to deal with the reality I presented here and stop attempting to shoot the messenger.

So, I am to assume the "The tools are still coming guys, just wait a few more years..." comment was not directed at Xbox...

Sure, bro. Sure.

Whatever, I'm still getting this on PC later on.

The comment was aimed at people who can't deal with reality....

Looks like it hit it's mark

Except you can see complier and execution improvements from .Net 4 to .Net 5 to .Net 6.

So yes, the development tools can improve performance.

Oops - looks like you are the one who needs a dose of reality.

worst on PS5

Why you people believe all the high scores it's getting from reviewers is beyond me.

I mean calling them Capgod is stupidity at its finest.

What a mess on all systems.

Did I hear the my glorious RTX 4090 won't get 120+ fps all maxed out in 4K?

That's purely heinous

It's a sh*t port but LOL using IGN for a technical analysis by I'm assuming the failed clown cow known as NXGamer!

Just goes to show you how professional reviewers are garbage giving it almost perfect scores across the board. Happened with DS, any Rockstar sh*t, CP2077 etc.

wouldn't say ugly but yeah not a stunner from what ive seen, certainly not enough to warrant all these issues

Now, I should note that I never ran into any drops in frames in the open world and managed to run at a pretty consistent 120FPS

Eurogamer reviewer has unlocked time travel and was able to play it perfectly fine on his 2085 hardware

I'm going to skip it for a few months, at least.

WTF is with XSS version? It is a straight up a PS2 looking game

But you didn't do that with Redfall? What a disappointment.

Because it was on GP. If its there, why skip it?

You and your use of logic.🥴

Very true, shovelware is always free, and you will never see quality titles such as DD2 on there.

I'm sure it's a fun game, but this speaks poorly on the developers. Does the game even look good enough to justify these poor performance results? Doesn't seem like it based on screenshots but I"ll reserve judgement until I play it.

I honestly would prefer a game that is inferior technologically, but superior in art direction and performance.

I don't know if you jest, but honestly? It really is quite heinous.

Maybe some patches will fix it.

Also I'm used to Japanese developers making shoddy ports to PC but apparently this runs poorly on all platforms? Yeesh.

lol same. The shame in caving in and buying yet another game will eventually pass.

@mrbojangles25: Remember that graphics are not the only element in a game that can be demanding. It is the most talked about element but some games are more CPU bound than GPU. Game development is hard and at this level it is even harder. If only gamers knew the work needed to meet the demand and high expectations.

Fair point.

I'm sure it will be better with a patch or two as well, plus this is a review build we are seeing. Might be updated by the time we play...

...which...is...right about...NOW!

Downloading 😀

You’d think the Digital Foundry guys would help out the freelance “contributors” with high profile reviews like this. Dude said he had everything at highest settings and performance was a perfect 120fps outside of a couple instances. This guy is playing on a hand me down 19” 60Hz monitor for sure…

Will probably wait a year and see for slight improvements.

PS5 somehow still winning even though its not even the most powerful platform lmao.

If only sony bothers to invest more into 1st party exclusive titles each year, living off legacy goodwill and word of mouth xbox being a trash platform at this point.

@BassMan said:

I wasn't planning to play this at launch and I won't even bother playing it at all with its current state of optimization.

It is $94.99 (Canadian) for the base version.. that alone keeps me from buying it

$1.99 to edit your character appearance in a single-player game after spending $70

Wait, what? This can't be a thing...?

I hoped this wouldn't be a thing, but after MHW, i knew they would go the same route. And that is where the PC version is so far ahead of both consoles that you might as well consider the game as a pc exclusive. Not only will you be able to edit whatever you want with mods, there also gonna be a ton of mods adding all kind of stuff to the game.

@regnaston said:

@BassMan said:

I wasn't planning to play this at launch and I won't even bother playing it at all with its current state of optimization.

It is $94.99 (Canadian) for the base version.. that alone keeps me from buying it

$77cad on pc for better visuals, performance and mods support. And while i don't like these prices, paying a high price for a quality product (BG3 was the same price) doesn't feel that much of a ripoff, but of course, 25fps on consoles kinda ruin the whole "worth the money"

@hardwenzen: i got it on the X haven;t had any problems with it at all

But have you reached the city with a bunch of npc's? This is where it chugs hard.

@mrbojangles25: I've changed my mind. I look at the Steam reviews and it's getting mostly negative user reviews and I always take those more seriously than the average game sites as they truly don't tell the whole story. I'm holding off till Capcom fixes this shit. For now, I'm buying Forbidden West.

@mrbojangles25:

I don't really jest, I've heard people with 4090 struggle to hit 60 fps or even dip down to 30 fps in the towns, which is god awful.

Though when it comes to PC you can just give a frame rate without letting us know the settings and more importantly the resolution.

If it was 8K it would be 100% forgivable for not hitting 60 fps. If its native 4K, then its bad but not terrible as there is DLSS.

But if you're running 4K DLSS on quality and not hitting 60 fps something is very, very wrong.

Just look at HFW which has DLSS3 and runs like 100-150fps and looks STUNNING.

Capcom shit the fan on performance here.

Which is weird, RE3 looks gorgeous still and I run native 5K (not 4K, but 5K) and get 175 fps all maxed out. if I run 4K, DLSS and get 60 fps I'd be disappointed to say the least.

@Pedro: Funny thing is that I didn't even tried Red Fall at launch. But that dude has the life mission of making sure everyone knows he's dumb.