Downplaying PS4 power advantage

It's no secret 360 had the advantage in most multiplats. This was due to better GPU and easier development over the archaic PS3 architecture. Despite that, PS3 had a 10% power advantage but that advantage was hard to use and most devs didn't. Lems love to revel in multiplats differences no matter how negligible they are. PS4 is set to have a better advantage then 360 ever did. It's more powerful AND easier to work with. Yet,  Lems try to downplay. This is the same faction that say they only buy 360 versions if they have both consoles yet they desperately label the consoles as "the same" :lol:Has a new level of hypocrisy been met? 

and the point of this thread is?

I dont think anyones downplaying it, some fanboys just have wildly unrealistic expectations of what 40% more power means (ie.  it 100% doesnt mean 40% better visuals.)

Take SSAO for example.  Would anyone think it makes an image look "100%!" better?  No, almost certainly not.  It takes 100% the power the process though.  

Cows think wildly unrealistic.  At best you will get a 1080p to 900p multiplat , which I highly highly doubt. 

Old, but good point. I expect to see some decent stuff from Sony (and MSFT,too) a few years down the pipe.

All that power doesn't matter if the gameplay is still the same, stale trash.

Cows think wildly unrealistic.  At best you will get a 1080p to 900p multiplat , which I highly highly doubt. 

XBOunity

Cows over exaggerate the performance difference and Lemmings under estimate it. The true power difference lies somewhere in between the two biases; I'd guess around 20-30%, not 10% or 50%.

It's no secret 360 had the advantage in most multiplats. This was due to better GPU and easier development over the archaic PS3 architecture. Despite that, PS3 had a 10% power advantage but that advantage was hard to use and most devs didn't. Lems love to revel in multiplats differences no matter how negligible they are. PS4 is set to have a better advantage then 360 ever did. It's more powerful AND easier to work with. Yet,  Lems try to downplay. This is the same faction that say they only buy 360 versions if they have both consoles yet they desperately label the consoles as "the same" :lol:Has a new level of hypocrisy been met? 

Sagemode87

I think you have a lot people that are aware of this but, try to act ignorant to the possibilities of this because they are in complete denial and are just butt hurt... But, then again, you do have a lot of people on here who truly are that dumb. Either way, we're not going to see any difference between PS4 and Xbone until well after atleast 3 years... Too many developers have made claims to this possibility for it not to be something to take in concideration. Even though John Carmack came out and said "both machines were assentially the same", it mostly sounds like something he just blurted out because they ARE assentially the same machines; But, John has yet to come out and say, he has worked with both machines so, I'll take the word of the developers who are and have made progress with both machines, and are saying otherwise... 

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

Cows think wildly unrealistic.  At best you will get a 1080p to 900p multiplat , which I highly highly doubt. 

bloodlust_101

Yes I think multiplats will sway graphically towards the ps4, kinda the way it sways towards the 360 now.  The difference tho isnt going to show 40 to 50 percent as these cows are dreaming of.   I believe there will be parity for numerous reasons.   Like always with me, if I want power I will go with my pc, if I want online I will go xbo.    

900P silenced lems forever

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="XBOunity"]

Cows think wildly unrealistic.  At best you will get a 1080p to 900p multiplat , which I highly highly doubt. 

XBOunity

Yes I think multiplats will sway graphically towards the ps4, kinda the way it sways towards the 360 now.  The difference tho isnt going to show 40 to 50 percent as these cows are dreaming of.   I believe there will be parity for numerous reasons.   Like always with me, if I want power I will go with my pc, if I want online I will go xbo.    

Who cares if the difference actually equates to 40-50% better. Is that your way of downplaying it. It'll be a better difference than PS3/360 differences you Lems gloated about. Weren't you one of the lems bragging about the 2% differences in some PS3/360 multiplats? 

Lems have gone from "Multiplats look better on 360"

to

"It doesn't matter if we run it at 900P as long as it plays the same"

The ps3 had a 10% power advantage where? Gpu>Cpu. Anyways, the ps4 is obviously superior to the X1TheKingIAm

[QUOTE="TheKingIAm"]The ps3 had a 10% power advantage where? Gpu>Cpu. Anyways, the ps4 is obviously superior to the X1killzowned24

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="TheKingIAm"]The ps3 had a 10% power advantage where? Gpu>Cpu. Anyways, the ps4 is obviously superior to the X1TheKingIAm

Yeah, you need to be more specific. Generalizing is lame, and it just sounds like a load of shit.

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="XBOunity"]

Cows think wildly unrealistic. At best you will get a 1080p to 900p multiplat , which I highly highly doubt.

XBOunity

Yes I think multiplats will sway graphically towards the ps4, kinda the way it sways towards the 360 now. The difference tho isnt going to show 40 to 50 percent as these cows are dreaming of. I believe there will be parity for numerous reasons. Like always with me, if I want power I will go with my pc, if I want online I will go xbo.

If you wanted the best online, wouldn't that be on PC as well??? Just saying...:cool:

What? There is nothing to downplay... it would be if the gameplay videos (alias proof) showed any significant difference. 

I think SW as a whole needs to get educated on computer and software technology. Just because your system has better specs on paper doesnt always translate into better on-screen. It is going to depend on how the software is coded, and how the hardware interacts with itself. For example, what if deferred rendering engines dont play well with GDDR5 because of latency? What if X1s ESRAM is useless? What if the extra pipelines in PS4 are always dedicated to something else like the SPUs in PS3? What if X1s hardware is more efficient? All these unknowns make comparing raw numbers pointless. I dont know why we still waste time on this crap.navyguy21

We know this isn't true by evidence of Killzone.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]I think SW as a whole needs to get educated on computer and software technology. Just because your system has better specs on paper doesnt always translate into better on-screen. It is going to depend on how the software is coded, and how the hardware interacts with itself. For example, what if deferred rendering engines dont play well with GDDR5 because of latency? What if X1s ESRAM is useless? What if the extra pipelines in PS4 are always dedicated to something else like the SPUs in PS3? What if X1s hardware is more efficient? All these unknowns make comparing raw numbers pointless. I dont know why we still waste time on this crap.killzowned24

We know this isn't true by evidence of Killzone.

ok, let's get one thing clear. X360 architecture is superior to PS3. No amount of fanboy wishful thinking is going to change that.

That hypocracy you speak of belongs to PS3 fans if they downplay that superiority and all of a sudden switch position on the aspect of which matter most for gaming, GPU or CPU.

Once that is acknowledged, you get to enjoy bragging about your precious underpowered PS4 GPU superiority over the other laughably underpowered X1 GPU.

Until then, MS fans could claim what they want and revel in the delusion of "X1 CPU poweah" all day long just as their brethren PS3 fans did last gen.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]I think SW as a whole needs to get educated on computer and software technology. Just because your system has better specs on paper doesnt always translate into better on-screen. It is going to depend on how the software is coded, and how the hardware interacts with itself. For example, what if deferred rendering engines dont play well with GDDR5 because of latency? What if X1s ESRAM is useless? What if the extra pipelines in PS4 are always dedicated to something else like the SPUs in PS3? What if X1s hardware is more efficient? All these unknowns make comparing raw numbers pointless. I dont know why we still waste time on this crap.navyguy21

We know this isn't true by evidence of Killzone.

The specs suggest that there is probably going to be a very noticable difference in favor of ps4 but there are many other factors that could narrow or widen the gap. While the architectures are similar they are not identical and there are of course differenses in os, drivers, apis and stuff like that. 

Also every game is being developed by different teams with different lead gaming platforms and with different policys regarding their relationships with sony and microsoft or even under the table deals that might happen.

But all these factors could benefit or hinder either console, like i said in the beginning what we know suggests ps4 to be noticeably ahead in the graphics-performance department everything else is guessing.

The ps3 had a 10% power advantage where? Gpu>Cpu. Anyways, the ps4 is obviously superior to the X1TheKingIAm

ok, let's get one thing clear. X360 architecture is superior to PS3. No amount of fanboy wishful thinking is going to change that.

That hypocracy you speak of belongs to PS3 fans if they downplay that superiority and all of a sudden switch position on the aspect of which matter most for gaming, GPU or CPU.

Once that is acknowledged, you get to enjoy bragging about your precious underpowered PS4 GPU superiority over the other laughably underpowered X1 GPU.

Until then, MS fans could claim what they want and revel in the delusion of "X1 CPU poweah" all day long just as their brethren PS3 fans did last gen.

Mystery_Writer

900P silenced lems forever

Douevenlift_bro

so 1 game runs at 900p.. and that everything is horrible... say whaaaaaaaaat!?

It's no secret 360 had the advantage in most multiplats. This was due to better GPU and easier development over the archaic PS3 architecture. Despite that, PS3 had a 10% power advantage but that advantage was hard to use and most devs didn't. Lems love to revel in multiplats differences no matter how negligible they are. PS4 is set to have a better advantage then 360 ever did. It's more powerful AND easier to work with. Yet,  Lems try to downplay. This is the same faction that say they only buy 360 versions if they have both consoles yet they desperately label the consoles as "the same" :lol:Has a new level of hypocrisy been met? 

Sagemode87

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

900P silenced lems forever

adders99

so 1 game runs at 900p.. and that everything is horrible... say whaaaaaaaaat!?

So xbox one games are going to run in SD?

[QUOTE="adders99"]

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

900P silenced lems forever

tenaka2

so 1 game runs at 900p.. and that everything is horrible... say whaaaaaaaaat!?

So xbox one games are going to run in SD?

ok, let's get one thing clear. X360 architecture is superior to PS3. No amount of fanboy wishful thinking is going to change that.

That hypocracy you speak of belongs to PS3 fans if they downplay that superiority and all of a sudden switch position on the aspect of which matter most for gaming, GPU or CPU.

Once that is acknowledged, you get to enjoy bragging about your precious underpowered PS4 GPU superiority over the other laughably underpowered X1 GPU.

Until then, MS fans could claim what they want and revel in the delusion of "X1 CPU poweah" all day long just as their brethren PS3 fans did last gen.

Mystery_Writer

It had a better GPU and was easier to use,also it had a memory advantage do to having a lower os foot print,that was about it,the PS3 had a way stronger CPU and more capable to,and the CPU and GPU work toghether very well unlike the Xenon and Xenos,where the Xenos basically did all the heavy lifting.

It's no secret 360 had the advantage in most multiplats. This was due to better GPU and easier development over the archaic PS3 architecture. Despite that, PS3 had a 10% power advantage but that advantage was hard to use and most devs didn't. Lems love to revel in multiplats differences no matter how negligible they are. PS4 is set to have a better advantage then 360 ever did. It's more powerful AND easier to work with. Yet,  Lems try to downplay. This is the same faction that say they only buy 360 versions if they have both consoles yet they desperately label the consoles as "the same" :lol:Has a new level of hypocrisy been met? 

Sagemode87

YES, naturally.   People only look at their advantages when it comes to blind fanboyism.  (ALL sides)  They ignore any attribute that disagrees with their construct that states, that their choice was the right one. If any information or general facts are strong enough they change the subject, point out any other unrelated feature. 

Many people just want to feel right, and no amount of facts, hypocrisy, or flip flopping will change that. 

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

Cows think wildly unrealistic.  At best you will get a 1080p to 900p multiplat , which I highly highly doubt. 

bloodlust_101

All that power doesn't matter if the gameplay is still the same, stale trash.

ChubbyGuy40

Pretty much this, coming from a primarily pc gamer, graphics have really plateaued and literally have become a crutch for multiple genres in which they just regurgitate sh!t with a new coat of paint.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="TheKingIAm"]The ps3 had a 10% power advantage where? Gpu>Cpu. Anyways, the ps4 is obviously superior to the X1TheKingIAm

Teh Cell was not a conventional multipurpose CPU like the one in your desktop. It was designed to assist in rendering graphics. Thats Why PS3 exclusives shit on 360 titles and why PS3 had the advantage in multiplats that were more graphically advanced like GTA 5, and Bioshock Infinite. Where 360 had the advantage in gamecube looking games games like Beyonetta and the Orange Box.

900P silenced lems forever

Douevenlift_bro

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[QUOTE="adders99"]

 

so 1 game runs at 900p.. and that everything is horrible... say whaaaaaaaaat!?

ronvalencia

So xbox one games are going to run in SD?

Well its pretty far from true HD. Perhaps the gen after xbox one will be proper HD.