Does balance matter in consoles games outside fighting?

My friends, modern day console gaming, does "balance" really matter all that much? Is this much more mechanically important for pc games? It seems much of console gaming now, are movie games in which the refinement of the mechanics aren't very important.

Outside of titles such as Street Fighter, does it really matter all that much? In pc gaming (Starcraft II/MOBA/CIV) many, many games balance is super important. So much so Starcraft has become a modern day chess.

Balance is needed in every game, however most games don't get that balance and are thus broken in my eyes.

lol

balance? consoles?

bro did you see the wobblestation?

It seems with Blizzard, pc has the most mechanically sound developer humanity has ever known. I suppose that's part of the longevity. While most console titles are forgotten about relativity quickly once the media buzz goes.

Of course? That's why patches exist? If you want to complain about unbalanced games just look at all the pay to win garbage you PC gamers like so much.

Do you type in some random words to make sentences?

No evidence of rampant console games with bad balancing?

No examples?

Just conjecture?

lol

Yes, but it may take longer on consoles due to the certification process

If you're going to use Blizzard as as example of PC gaming longevity I'm going to use Super Metroid as an example of console longevity.

Using the best possible example is sort of pointless, why not use Big Rigs?

Stupid thread.

But no one plays that anymore. Millions play World Of Warcraft almost 10 years on. Millions play Starcraft more than ten years on.9 years after release Diablo 2 was still a top 10 seller list. My friend, this isn't a comparison, it's a homicide.

...and then along came Diablo 3. Womp Womp

Broke records and sold more than 10 million copies.

Remember when there were no patches in console gaming? If you got a broken mess you were stuck with it or you had to unload it on some poor unsuspecting soul.

that doesn't mean a game is good

No. Most console-only games are for kids and not serious gamers.

Why is it not a good game?

True, PC is for mature gamers.

I didn't say it wasn't a good game, although that always-online DRM launch seemed like a shit show

unfortunately this. The one thing Titanfall does well is that honestly its one of the most balanced shooters I've ever played at launch.

And you;re telling me there has ALWAYS been patches for PC games? HA! HA! HA!

tha heck you talking bout! aint even talking bout pc.

Why the **** would balance matter in a "movie game"? You don't even make sense half the time.

For multiplayer it's ALWAYS important no matter how "hardcore" and "complex" the game is.

What the **** type of stupid question is this?

It's not hard to put 2 and 2 together friend. It's obvious from your other comments in the thread and your jab at console patches where you stand.

Yeah

Well cmultiplayer. Singleplayer? UHM.. Well, if you count difficulty spikes as balancing, then heaven's yes!

Balance matters in every game with a competitive mode.

Does it matter in terms of success? no, not necessarily. You can market "crazy shit, whiz bang fun" much better than balance.

Does it matter in terms of critical reception? no when the hell has it ever come off like game critics give 2 shits about depth and nuance? much less balance?

That said I do think games that have stood the test of time tend to be the stuff that took care of business where it mattered: game design. Balance is a part of that. It's also something extremely difficult to achieve.

You kidding me right?

I don't know, am I?

Yes?

(play Pokemon)

lmao good one.

@inb4uall: I asked first.

I already know I let you figure it out for yourself, if you can that is. You don't seem very bright.

Whats with the attitude. I've been very nice to you.

Has atrocious balance.

There is an entire forum dedicated to creating tiers to separate the broken mother fuckers from the status quo. That's not balance. Pokemon's competitive side has many strengths, and a lot of it revolves around how deep it is. But balance? lolno.

It being on a console or PC makes no difference. All multiplayer games need to be balanced. But this is a troll thread, so w/e.

No it certainly does not matter, the Biggest offender of this Power Fantasy Trend is Bioshock Infinite ! Damn I hate this game !

Everybody knows how I feel about RPGs so theres no need to get into that now.

Fighting Games are pretty much the only genre were balance is still important.

However its a dickmove trying to blame consoles for this. PC has its fair share of unbalanced crap.

It's not like balance is inherent to PC games. Look at WoW and League of Legends and you have two shitshows run by developers who are utterly incapable of class/champion balance.

Pc games are the games generally released unfinished. It wasn't until more recently that consoles started having these issues. Plus the definition of balance is Nintendo.

goodbye

thats just because consoles have SOOOO many big name blockbusters always coming out, and PC has 1 in 10 years; starcraft, and diablo.

Every game requires balancing but of course not as much as PC games like Total War,Starcraft , Civilization and so on .

Yep, Fighting Games are the last true bastion of balance but even that might change because lets be honest, RPG Elements are everywhere ! 90% of them want you level up or upgrade constantly without the slightest care of what it does to the game's balance.

Holy Crap... Old thread, and I already said my piece six months ago.

Of course it does and devs struggle to give it.

this super old thread suggests to me its the same handful of people keeping this place alive.

who are the genuinely unique, interesting, and new up and coming users?

i'll start: protossx.