Crack Down On Pointless Or Opinionless Threads.

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#51 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Sounds great Cake, I would also love to see that level 1-5 user lock.Jynxzor
This. This should be set all around Gamespot. It would make stupid level 1 account suicides so much harder >_>. Actually, it would make them impossible.
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#52 II-FBIsniper-II
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I think this is a good change if I interpreted it correctly.

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#53 subrosian
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[QUOTE="JediRiff"]AltAcct
Doing that draws attention to the naughty thread. In those cases, report and ignore. Or, at the very worst, you could make a thread in AtM asking for immediate attention. Though I wouldn't do that. Mods are scary :o

Ask the Mod is not for reporting threads - it doesn't make the mods get to it any faster. If it's not being taken care of, you're better off PM-ing a mod to bring it to their attention.

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 II-FBIsniper-II

Haha I love that. So stealing that. :P

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#55 zassimick  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]Sounds great Cake, I would also love to see that level 1-5 user lock.Jandurin
This. This should be set all around Gamespot. It would make stupid level 1 account suicides so much harder >_>. Actually, it would make them impossible.

What about the "Welcome Newbies" board? That board is designed to help level 1-5 posters if they have a problem, but if they can't do this they might be turned away from Gamespot. Granted, the solution is as easy as creating a sticky in that board that says "Level 1-5 posters' problems here!" or something of the like.

I would like to see that cap on these boards as much as you do, but traffic for Gamespot might slow down if that were to happen and maybe that is why Gamespot hasn't implemented it yet. Just an idea...

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[QUOTE="AltAcct"][QUOTE="JediRiff"]subrosian

Doing that draws attention to the naughty thread. In those cases, report and ignore. Or, at the very worst, you could make a thread in AtM asking for immediate attention. Though I wouldn't do that. Mods are scary :o

Ask the Mod is not for reporting threads - it doesn't make the mods get to it any faster. If it's not being taken care of, you're better off PM-ing a mod to bring it to their attention.

What if you don't know what mod is on? :? It's still a good sight better than spamming System Wars with pointless threads.
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#57 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Zassimick
I both forgot about actual newbies AND the newbies board. I am a bad community person :(
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#58 Wanderer5
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Well I don't see much that I would disagree with, but I do agree with The-Very-Best. A topic turning into a discussion about the TC's opinion does happen a lot, through I think we can say something else beside our opinion without it getting locked? Like if the topic has a link, maybe we could put a very brief summary on what the link goes to?

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#59 II-FBIsniper-II
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"] cakeorrdeath

Haha I love that. So stealing that. :P

I've had it for a while now.

Thought this was a perfect time to use it. :)

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#60 EuroMafia
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moderators are going to become far more ruthless in locking threads

Wait, they're not already!?

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[QUOTE="Zassimick"]Jandurin
I both forgot about actual newbies AND the newbies board. I am a bad community person :(

Yes. :| Yes you are.

:P Nonsense! SW has just skewed your mindset into thinking new accounts are only people who are going to troll. It happens.

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#62 Blackbond
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Its about damn time.

But there are some suggestions I would make.

  1. Level 1-5 should not be able to create new topics
  2. This whole thing about GGD is kinda pointless. GGD is dead and you are just limiting some potential interesting discussion
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#63 HarlockJC
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Its about damn time.

But there are some suggestions I would make.

  1. Level 1-5 should not be able to create new topics
  2. This whole thing about GGD is kinda pointless. GGD is dead and you are just limiting some potential interesting discussion

Blackbond

I agree as another poster said GGD and SW should become one

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Its about damn time.

But there are some suggestions I would make.

  1. Level 1-5 should not be able to create new topics
  2. This whole thing about GGD is kinda pointless. GGD is dead and you are just limiting some potential interesting discussion
Blackbond
Agreed on both counts.
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#65 Wanderer5
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Its about damn time.

But there are some suggestions I would make.

  1. Level 1-5 should not be able to create new topics
  2. This whole thing about GGD is kinda pointless. GGD is dead and you are just limiting some potential interesting discussion

Blackbond

I agree with both, especially #2.

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#66 zassimick  Moderator
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Its about damn time.

But there are some suggestions I would make.

  1. Level 1-5 should not be able to create new topics
  2. This whole thing about GGD is kinda pointless. GGD is dead and you are just limiting some potential interesting discussion

Blackbond

I agree with both, especially #2.

Wanderer5

Agreed on both counts.RobbieH1234

I would love to see a level cap as well but this is what I told Jandurin earlier and I think its something to consider or maybe a reason as to why Gamespot hasn't done a level cap yet.

What about the "Welcome Newbies" board? That board is designed to help level 1-5 posters if they have a problem, but if they can't do this they might be turned away from Gamespot. Granted, the solution is as easy as creating a sticky in that board that says "Level 1-5 posters' problems here!" or something of the like.

Zassimick

Maybe its alright to have that cap on but it would detriment traffic on the site a little bit and that might be the reason that a cap hasn't been put on yet.

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#67 II-FBIsniper-II
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I would love to see a level cap as well but this is what I told Jandurin earlier and I think its something to consider or maybe a reason as to why Gamespot hasn't done a level cap yet. Zassimick
We want a level cap JUST on SW.

Not throughout gamespot.

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[QUOTE="Zassimick"]I would love to see a level cap as well but this is what I told Jandurin earlier and I think its something to consider or maybe a reason as to why Gamespot hasn't done a level cap yet. II-FBIsniper-II

We want a level cap JUST on SW.

Not throughout gamespot.

I don't know how the technical workings of a forum work, but is that possible to single out SW for something like this? I mean all of the boards on Gamespot are run through a central server/program, right? If its possible then I'm all for it as well.

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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]

[QUOTE="Zassimick"]I would love to see a level cap as well but this is what I told Jandurin earlier and I think its something to consider or maybe a reason as to why Gamespot hasn't done a level cap yet. Zassimick

We want a level cap JUST on SW.

Not throughout gamespot.

I don't know how the technical workings of a forum work, but is that possible to single out SW for something like this? I mean all of the boards on Gamespot are run through a central server/program, right? If its possible then I'm all for it as well.

Not just that, but is it *worth* instituting such a thing for 1 forum?
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I agree as another poster said GGD and SW should become one

HarlockJC


Oh god, please no....

Despite what others claim people do actually use GGD for discussions.
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[QUOTE="Zassimick"]Jandurin
I both forgot about actual newbies AND the newbies board. I am a bad community person :(

We will take care of you Jand....

:twisted:

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#72 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

I agree as another poster said GGD and SW should become one

Teufelhuhn



Oh god, please no....

Despite what others claim people do actually use GGD for discussions.

Would SW really be that detrimental to the discussion if they were combined?

Would it not be just as bad if SW were forced to go to GGD to talk about game announcements?

The same flood would occur either way, and at least this setup would not neuter discussions about games in SW since they could be viewed as OT (even though, IMO, games are the most vital part of the SW thing).

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To people asking if a level cap can be put on certain forums...the answer is yes.
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[QUOTE="subrosian"]

[QUOTE="elektrixxx"]It's funny how you all of a sudden spring into actian after (removed) launched.JediRiff

This sticky has been in negotiations for weeks now... if you're not aware there was a sticky prior to this one that was removed so the mod team could re-evaluate it based on compaints from SW users. And if you must blame someone, I'm partially to blame for the delay in having it up - as well as Tsug_Ze_Wind :P

Damn those GS mods for listening to the users and making the rules less restrictive. *Shakes fist* damn them for listening to the community. :P

Less restrictive? I dont know about that. I got a frigging point loss violation slapped on me yesterday, because I made a post begging the mods to do something about the um... *ahem* less than proper pics flooding our threads yesterday. I know it wasnt about a console or anything, however, I am at work and just wanted to see something done about it, so my rear didnt get popped for viewing that kind of material at work. Thread was locked, which was fine... that means a mod saw it, which was what I was hoping for, but then I find out I get a point loss violation for disruptive posting?

I am sorry, but thats complete garbage. I didnt deserve that. Attempts at politely contacting mods to rectify this have given me the basic answer of sorry, nothing we can do about it. If we are going to become this heavily scrutinized, whats the point of even posting here anymore? Yeah, I am furious about this, and I am not going to just go quietly into the night about it. I was wronged, and I have a feeling this is just the beginning.

Sure, there are posts on here where its obvious the mods need to do something about it, and sometimes something harsh. IE the poster I was REFERRING to in my thread yesterday. Yet I get popped? Sorry, but I'm not going to take someone smacking my hand, claiming to be showing me I'm being irresponsible, when I am pretty sure I know WAY more about the meaning of the word. (That word being responsibility)

As far as pointless or opinionless threads, my thread yesterday was a thread that had a point, I was stating my opinion, and I was showing concern for the whole board in general. And I get a point loss???

Thats a barnyard full of horse crap, and if thats your idea of good moderating, I think someone needs to check their intelligence at the door.

Same thing happend to me and I mostly just read here...

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I don't know if this will help..
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#76 Unforgiven2870
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

I agree as another poster said GGD and SW should become one

Teufelhuhn


Oh god, please no....

Despite what others claim people do actually use GGD for discussions.

The Majority has agreed SW and GGD to become one :) sorry teuf :P
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#77 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

I agree as another poster said GGD and SW should become one

Unforgiven2870



Oh god, please no....

Despite what others claim people do actually use GGD for discussions.

The Majority has agreed SW and GGD to become one :) sorry teuf :P

Well BlackBond disagrees with you and agrees with Teuf. And lets be serious.

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#78 subrosian
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

I agree as another poster said GGD and SW should become one

Unforgiven2870



Oh god, please no....

Despite what others claim people do actually use GGD for discussions.

The Majority has agreed SW and GGD to become one :) sorry teuf :P

I don't want SW merged with GGD - hence why I don't want people being told "take it to GGD". Please, for the good of both SW and GGD - DO NOT send SW posters to GGD.

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[QUOTE="Unforgiven2870"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

I agree as another poster said GGD and SW should become one

Blackbond



Oh god, please no....

Despite what others claim people do actually use GGD for discussions.

The Majority has agreed SW and GGD to become one :) sorry teuf :P

Well BlackBond disagrees with you and agrees with Teuf. And lets be serious.

This whole thing about GGD is kinda pointless. GGD is dead and you are just limiting some potential interesting discussion.


^So what did mean when u made that statement BB? IF ggd's dead i don't see why its a bad idea.

I do agree with you on the SW level cap though.
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Yes, this place would be much better if people here learned how to use General Games Discussion and their blogs. I've found that at least half the topics here don't even belong in System Wars.
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#81 Unforgiven2870
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Yes, this place would be much better if people here learned how to use General Games Discussion and their blogs. I've found that at least half the topics here don't even belong in System Wars.famicommander
like BB said GGD is pretty much dead but now i can see why it would be a idea though.I'm not sure if this place would be much better regardless if people learned to use that.I'll agree that some stuff should be blogged but sometimes u just have to post in a nice long thread just to see what will come out of the debate,sometimes its hard to pass up crazy replies.
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[QUOTE="famicommander"]Yes, this place would be much better if people here learned how to use General Games Discussion and their blogs. I've found that at least half the topics here don't even belong in System Wars.Unforgiven2870
like BB said GGD is pretty much dead but now i can see why it would be a idea though.I'm not sure if this place would be much better regardless if people learned to use that.I'll agree that some stuff should be blogged but sometimes u just have to post in a nice long thread just to see what will come out of the debate,sometimes its hard to pass up crazy replies.

GGD is not dead. I post there every day. And don't you think that it would perhaps be more active if people posted their miscategorized System Wars topics there?
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Without stuped threads, 99.84% of SW wouldnt exist

U noe its true lol

Good thinkings though, it will make things a bit better

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Could I throw my ballot in here to have mod crackdowns on people stating their opinion as fact? And let me emphasise, I am NOT saying people shouldn't be able to state their opinions, they just shouldn't be able to use the word "fact" in the context of the message when it's only their own opinion.
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Could I throw my ballot in here to have mod crackdowns on people stating their opinion as fact? And let me emphasise, I am NOT saying people shouldn't be able to state their opinions, they just shouldn't be able to use the word "fact" in the context of the message when it's only their own opinion.AdobeArtist
Motion seconded.
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Could I throw my ballot in here to have mod crackdowns on people stating their opinion as fact? And let me emphasise, I am NOT saying people shouldn't be able to state their opinions, they just shouldn't be able to use the word "fact" in the context of the message when it's only their own opinion.AdobeArtist

"Star Ocean 4 is coming to PS3. Its a fact and I don't need to prove it. Its true because I said so."

I think this is the kind of comments you are looking at lol.

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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]Could I throw my ballot in here to have mod crackdowns on people stating their opinion as fact? And let me emphasise, I am NOT saying people shouldn't be able to state their opinions, they just shouldn't be able to use the word "fact" in the context of the message when it's only their own opinion.Blackbond

"Star Ocean 4 is coming to PS3. Its a fact and I don't need to prove it. Its true because I said so."

I think this is the kind of comments you are looking at lol.

And the sad thing is, it doesn't end there;

* Wii is a fad and will fall into 3rd, FACT!!
* 360 is maxed out after just 1 year, FACT!!
* PS3 failed out of the gate and will be Sony's last console, FACT!!
* 360's library lacks diversity, FACT!!
* PC gaming costs $4000, with yearly $1000 upgrades, FACT!!
* Wii appeals to grannies only, FACT!!
* PS3 has no good games, FACT!! (even before MGS4, clearly false)
* PC gaming is dying, FAAAAAAAAAAAAACT!!!!!!

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]Could I throw my ballot in here to have mod crackdowns on people stating their opinion as fact? And let me emphasise, I am NOT saying people shouldn't be able to state their opinions, they just shouldn't be able to use the word "fact" in the context of the message when it's only their own opinion.AdobeArtist

"Star Ocean 4 is coming to PS3. Its a fact and I don't need to prove it. Its true because I said so."

I think this is the kind of comments you are looking at lol.

And the sad thing is, it doesn't end there;

* Wii is a fad and will fall into 3rd, FACT!!
* 360 is maxed out after just 1 year, FACT!!
* PS3 failed out of the gate and will be Sony's last console, FACT!!
* 360's library lacks diversity, FACT!!
* PC gaming costs $4000, with yearly $1000 upgrades, FACT!!
* Wii appeals to grannies only, FACT!!
* PS3 has no good games, FACT!! (even before MGS4, clearly false)
* PC gaming is dying, FAAAAAAAAAAAAACT!!!!!!

I don't understand? These are all delicious FACTs. :?
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]Could I throw my ballot in here to have mod crackdowns on people stating their opinion as fact? And let me emphasise, I am NOT saying people shouldn't be able to state their opinions, they just shouldn't be able to use the word "fact" in the context of the message when it's only their own opinion.Jandurin

"Star Ocean 4 is coming to PS3. Its a fact and I don't need to prove it. Its true because I said so."

I think this is the kind of comments you are looking at lol.

And the sad thing is, it doesn't end there;

* Wii is a fad and will fall into 3rd, FACT!!
* 360 is maxed out after just 1 year, FACT!!
* PS3 failed out of the gate and will be Sony's last console, FACT!!
* 360's library lacks diversity, FACT!!
* PC gaming costs $4000, with yearly $1000 upgrades, FACT!!
* Wii appeals to grannies only, FACT!!
* PS3 has no good games, FACT!! (even before MGS4, clearly false)
* PC gaming is dying, FAAAAAAAAAAAAACT!!!!!!

I don't understand? These are all delicious FACTs. :?

I see what you did there :P

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]Could I throw my ballot in here to have mod crackdowns on people stating their opinion as fact? And let me emphasise, I am NOT saying people shouldn't be able to state their opinions, they just shouldn't be able to use the word "fact" in the context of the message when it's only their own opinion.AdobeArtist

"Star Ocean 4 is coming to PS3. Its a fact and I don't need to prove it. Its true because I said so."

I think this is the kind of comments you are looking at lol.

And the sad thing is, it doesn't end there;

* Wii is a fad and will fall into 3rd, FACT!!
* 360 is maxed out after just 1 year, FACT!!
* PS3 failed out of the gate and will be Sony's last console, FACT!!
* 360's library lacks diversity, FACT!!
* PC gaming costs $4000, with yearly $1000 upgrades, FACT!!
* Wii appeals to grannies only, FACT!!
* PS3 has no good games, FACT!! (even before MGS4, clearly false)
* PC gaming is dying, FAAAAAAAAAAAAACT!!!!!!

I don't understand? These are all delicious FACTs. :?

I see what you did there :P

didn't you create a thread to ask permission to punsih fact abusers?

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#91 SecretPolice
Member since 2007 • 44174 Posts

Causing Friction with Fiction.

Mandatory 30 lashes with a wet noodle.

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#92 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
Member since 2005 • 95573 Posts

Causing Friction with Fiction.

Mandatory 30 lashes with a wet noodle.

SecretPolice
Can I eat it after? I'm hungry :(
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#93 AdobeArtist  Moderator
Member since 2006 • 25184 Posts

didn't you create a thread to ask permission to punsih fact abusers?

crunchUK

Yes I did, which was a genuine attempt to clear out flamebait clutter from the landscape of SW.

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#94 crunchUK
Member since 2007 • 3050 Posts
[QUOTE="crunchUK"]

didn't you create a thread to ask permission to punsih fact abusers?

AdobeArtist

Yes I did, which was a genuine attempt to clear out flamebait clutter from the landscape of SW.

it will never happen. what we need to do is to "mature" fanboys.

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#95 cakeorrdeath
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Lets try and stay on the topic at hand :)
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#96 Hewkii
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Could I throw my ballot in here to have mod crackdowns on people stating their opinion as fact? And let me emphasise, I am NOT saying people shouldn't be able to state their opinions, they just shouldn't be able to use the word "fact" in the context of the message when it's only their own opinion.AdobeArtist

I suppose implying opinion as fact would go there as well. and regardless if you agree that it should, if they do take your suggestions people will be modded for stating an absolute (ie this is why PC gaming is dying).

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#97 Teuf_
Member since 2004 • 30805 Posts

I don't want SW merged with GGD - hence why I don't want people being told "take it to GGD". Please, for the good of both SW and GGD - DO NOT send SW posters to GGD.

subrosian


Indeed. If someone wanted to make a topic in GGD...they'd have made it there. Sure there's a lot of overlap in terms of topic material between the two forums, but it's not that hard to tell that the atmosphere is completely different over there. This is also why you can't just mash the two forums together and call it a day...it'd be like merging a country club with a biker bar and telling the country club people "you guys both like drinking booze and talking, this will work out great".
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#98 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="subrosian"]

I don't want SW merged with GGD - hence why I don't want people being told "take it to GGD". Please, for the good of both SW and GGD - DO NOT send SW posters to GGD.

Teufelhuhn



Indeed. If someone wanted to make a topic in GGD...they'd have made it there. Sure there's a lot of overlap in terms of topic material between the two forums, but it's not that hard to tell that the atmosphere is completely different over there. This is also why you can't just mash the two forums together and call it a day...it'd be like merging a country club with a biker bar and telling the country club people "you guys both like drinking booze and talking, this will work out great".

now I can't get that image out of my head. I would SO like to see that happen :lol:

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#99 too_much_eslim
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I think before anyone can post a comment they should be forced to read the OP. If they find it too long then stay out of teh thread.

Also if the person comes in the thread saying they don't care then they should be moderated for just trying to be disruptive.

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#100 musicalmac  Moderator
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Lets try and stay on the topic at hand :)cakeorrdeath
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