Console controllers are terrible for games that require any sort of aiming.

I haven't turned on my PS3 in over a year. Last time I bought an actual PS3 game was in late 2011. 

When I bought my PS3 about three years ago, I thought it would be a great way to supplement my PC gaming with some console exclusives that the PC would never get. However, as great as Red Dead Redemption, Metal Gear Solid 4, and the Uncharted games were, I could never get over using the Dualshock as input.

Why? I love the mouse and keyboard because of the precision it gives me in games that require aiming a gun at something. With the controller, it feels fiddly and imprecise. 

But, I do recognize that console controllers have their value in certain genres - like fighting and racing games. I much prefer playing Batman: Arkham City on my Xbox 360 controller rather than trying to fiddle with a keyboard and mouse.

However, given that most of the games I play require some level of aiming, I can't stand the lack of precision anymore. Next generation, I'm going back to being a PC-only gamer - for good. 

they are? dang..thats news to me..its not the controller..its the aiming system used in the game. some games move more smoothly..some dont..controllers will be around forever..its the m/k that need to evolve.

Nope it just takes some getting used to for some people.   I'm doing fine just fine on 1999 mode with a sniper rifle on Bioshock Infinite, pulling off head shots is super easy.  But yeah it probably does depend on the game mechanics, the sensitivity and all that.

Naw, controller is still better for TPS. I can't imagine trying to use a keyboard for movement in games likes Gears and Uncharted.

Naw, controller is still better for TPS. I can't imagine trying to use a keyboard for movement in games likes Gears and Uncharted.

PatchMaster

I bought a keyboard n mouse converter which solved the FPS problem for my PS3. Now, I like my PS3 almost as much as my PC. :lol:

Even taking it easy, aiming isn't a big problem.....

I suck at using the mouse and keyboard for shooters, yeah it's more precise, but I prefer controllers. 

you must persist, i believe in you :oops:

I bought a keyboard n mouse converter which solved the FPS problem for my PS3. Now, I like my PS3 almost as much as my PC. :lol:

Even taking it easy, aiming isn't a big problem.....

jun_aka_pekto

im actually no good at using a controller for fps or tps games,im just terrible with controllers 

And water is wet.

Naw, controller is still better for TPS. I can't imagine trying to use a keyboard for movement in games likes Gears and Uncharted.

PatchMaster

breaking news!!!!!  the world is round!:shock:

I haven't had a problem. I finish games, enjoy the experience on controllers. What more do I need?cainetao11

[QUOTE="cainetao11"]I haven't had a problem. I finish games, enjoy the experience on controllers. What more do I need?SKaREO

It's less immersive than keyboard mouse for FPS/TPS for sure. You move in very awkward ways when using a controller. It's like you're controlling a robot.

Nothing wrong with aiming with controller, you just terrible at it. Its not super accurate like a mouse on FPS games but great for playing TPS. Plus sports, fighting is always better with controller.

Just get good bro.

Get some skills kid, using a controller is easy, though for newer gamers I guess not?

Nothing wrong with aiming with controller, you just terrible at it. Its not super accurate like a mouse on FPS games but great for playing TPS. Plus sports, fighting is always better with controller.

Just get good bro.

KillzoneSnake

I haven't turned on my PS3 in over a year. Last time I bought an actual PS3 game was in late 2011. 

When I bought my PS3 about three years ago, I thought it would be a great way to supplement my PC gaming with some console exclusives that the PC would never get. However, as great as Red Dead Redemption, Metal Gear Solid 4, and the Uncharted games were, I could never get over using the Dualshock as input.

Why? I love the mouse and keyboard because of the precision it gives me in games that require aiming a gun at something. With the controller, it feels fiddly and imprecise. 

But, I do recognize that console controllers have their value in certain genres - like fighting and racing games. I much prefer playing Batman: Arkham City on my Xbox 360 controller rather than trying to fiddle with a keyboard and mouse.

However, given that most of the games I play require some level of aiming, I can't stand the lack of precision anymore. Next generation, I'm going back to being a PC-only gamer - for good. 

The_Capitalist

I know how you feel.

Controllers aren't bad or anything but it feels a bit slower with precesion. After playing long hours of fps games on a PC, I switched to a 360 controller to see the difference and I was having a hard time to adjust. I've finally adjusted to it, but if I was going to play competitively online, I'd go with keyboard/mouse.

[QUOTE="SKaREO"][QUOTE="cainetao11"]I haven't had a problem. I finish games, enjoy the experience on controllers. What more do I need?funsohng

Naw, controller is still better for TPS. I can't imagine trying to use a keyboard for movement in games likes Gears and Uncharted.

PatchMaster

Ish... uncharted... aiming with a controlled, ouch.

I prefer gamepads, so go eat a d*ck.

Its not that bad. Plus console shooters use heavy amount of autoaim.

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

I bought a keyboard n mouse converter which solved the FPS problem for my PS3. Now, I like my PS3 almost as much as my PC. :lol:

Even taking it easy, aiming isn't a big problem.....

Crossel777

Edit:

One more thing. Check the keyboard n mouse compatibility list. I didn't. But, it just so happened I have compatible devices. I use a wireless Logitech MK320 keyboard and a wireless Logitech M305 mouse. I plugged in their USB dongles into the proper port of the Eagle Eye.

I use the Eagle Eye only for FPS games. For games like Uncharted, I think the controller is still fine although I prefer a 360-style controller over the DS3. There are different profiles you can make or download one if you wish from Penguin United's Web site. The thing is, the Eagle Eye can only use two profiles at a time.

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

Naw, controller is still better for TPS. I can't imagine trying to use a keyboard for movement in games likes Gears and Uncharted.

ShadowriverUB

I'd love to see someone try to play Gears multiplayer with KB&M. Pretty sure they wouldn't be able to compete.

The point I try to make in these threads is that as superior as mouse is for aiming, keyboard is inferior for movement.

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"][QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

Naw, controller is still better for TPS. I can't imagine trying to use a keyboard for movement in games likes Gears and Uncharted.

PatchMaster

I'd love to see someone try to play Gears multiplayer with KB&M. Pretty sure they wouldn't be able to compete.

The point I try to make in these threads is that as superior as mouse is for aiming, keyboard is inferior for movement.

Prove it, I played gears with M&K, same as dead space.

I'd love to see someone try to play Gears multiplayer with KB&M. Pretty sure they wouldn't be able to compete.

 

The point I try to make in these threads is that as superior as mouse is for aiming, keyboard is inferior for movement.

PatchMaster

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

I'd love to see someone try to play Gears multiplayer with KB&M. Pretty sure they wouldn't be able to compete.

 

The point I try to make in these threads is that as superior as mouse is for aiming, keyboard is inferior for movement.

Iantheone

Or having to click the stick to sprint

maybe you just suck at it?

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

 

I'd love to see someone try to play Gears multiplayer with KB&M. Pretty sure they wouldn't be able to compete.

 

The point I try to make in these threads is that as superior as mouse is for aiming, keyboard is inferior for movement.

Bebi_vegeta

Prove it, I played gears with M&K, same as dead space.

Wish I could. Problem is controllers are becoming more and more popular on PCs instead of the other way around. TPS's can be played with either method, but I would still argue that a controller would edge out KB&M competitively, similar to how KB&M would edge out a controller in an FPS.

I would agree that mouse far exceeds anything a controller can do. Even watching console footage of BF3 or anything makes me wanna shout at the screen cos it looks so clumsy. 

But they're not "terrible" that's a huge over exaggeration. I still use my gamepad for a lot of games. and even some games that need aiming, but competitively I would never use anything but a mouse, you would get destroyed. Consoles it's fine cos everyone is on the same level controls wise

they are? dang..thats news to me..its not the controller..its the aiming system used in the game. some games move more smoothly..some dont..controllers will be around forever..its the m/k that need to evolve.

VanDammFan

Wish I could. Problem is controllers are becoming more and more popular on PCs instead of the other way around. TPS's can be played with either method, but I would still argue that a controller would edge out KB&M competitively, similar to how KB&M would edge out a controller in an FPS.

PatchMaster

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

 

I'd love to see someone try to play Gears multiplayer with KB&M. Pretty sure they wouldn't be able to compete.

 

The point I try to make in these threads is that as superior as mouse is for aiming, keyboard is inferior for movement.

PatchMaster

Prove it, I played gears with M&K, same as dead space.

Wish I could. Problem is controllers are becoming more and more popular on PCs instead of the other way around. TPS's can be played with either method, but I would still argue that a controller would edge out KB&M competitively, similar to how KB&M would edge out a controller in an FPS.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

 

I'd love to see someone try to play Gears multiplayer with KB&M. Pretty sure they wouldn't be able to compete.

 

The point I try to make in these threads is that as superior as mouse is for aiming, keyboard is inferior for movement.

PatchMaster

Prove it, I played gears with M&K, same as dead space.

Wish I could. Problem is controllers are becoming more and more popular on PCs instead of the other way around. TPS's can be played with either method, but I would still argue that a controller would edge out KB&M competitively, similar to how KB&M would edge out a controller in an FPS.

Controlers more and more popular on PC ? Doesn't mean anything. M&K won't get more popular on PC... I mean comon.

The only reason I use a controler is for button smasher games... and sports.

For someone like me, who played alot of games with M&K... TPS is not a problem.

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

 

Prove it, I played gears with M&K, same as dead space.

Bebi_vegeta

Wish I could. Problem is controllers are becoming more and more popular on PCs instead of the other way around. TPS's can be played with either method, but I would still argue that a controller would edge out KB&M competitively, similar to how KB&M would edge out a controller in an FPS.

Controlers more and more popular on PC ? Doesn't mean anything. M&K won't get more popular on PC... I mean comon.

The only reason I use a controler is for button smasher games... and sports.

For someone like me, who played alot of games with M&K... TPS is not a problem.

Doesn't mean anything? Then why is it happening? And don't default to "teh consolization".

And I'm not arguing that TPS can be played with M&K, but to say that M&K is superior when most TPS's out there include platforming, driving and/or other action mechanics besides shooting just sounds stupid.

Well yeah... playing any shooter with a controller is horrible, one of the biggest reasons why I couldn't get into shooters I played on consoles like Killzone and Resistance was the clunky controller which turns the whole experience into a mess.

Also, those shooters are pretty slow paced, I'm scared to even think how would it feel to play something faster...

Eh. Depends on the game. For FPS usually I use kb/m. However, recently I found out that I just cannot play Bioshock Infinite with a kb/m. I had to plug in my xbox 360 controller.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

 

Wish I could. Problem is controllers are becoming more and more popular on PCs instead of the other way around. TPS's can be played with either method, but I would still argue that a controller would edge out KB&M competitively, similar to how KB&M would edge out a controller in an FPS.

PatchMaster

Controlers more and more popular on PC ? Doesn't mean anything. M&K won't get more popular on PC... I mean comon.

The only reason I use a controler is for button smasher games... and sports.

For someone like me, who played alot of games with M&K... TPS is not a problem.

Doesn't mean anything? Then why is it happening? And don't default to "teh consolization".

And I'm not arguing that TPS can be played with M&K, but to say that M&K is superior when most TPS's out there include platforming, driving and/or other action mechanics besides shooting just sounds stupid.

Why is what happening ? PC always had various types of controler... it's nothing new.

Again, GTA is another example that I prefer M&K over controler. Anything requiring shooting is better with a mouse, that's pretty much a fact.