Can We All Agree The 360 Was The Best Hardcore Console This Gen?

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

no thanks.
I myself don't like the Halo series or the Gears series.
That means: A 360 without halo 3, odst, 4, gears 2, 3.
You can have your Forza, and fable. 

However take any 2 franchises out of sony: ill take out resistance and killzone.
im left with:
Uncharted1,2,3, God of war, demons souls, warhawk, LBP, all stars battle royale, infamous, mgs4, MAG, heavenly sword, val. chronicles, heavy rain, ratched and clank: crack in time, journey, motorstorm apocalypse, yakuza 4, GT5

Upcoming:

• The Last of Us
• God of War: Ascension
• Dust 514
• Beyond: Two Souls
• Ni no Kuni
• Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
• Tales of Xillia
• The Witch and the Hundred Knights
• Puppeteer
• Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Twilight Land
• Until Dawn
• Hyperdemsion Neptunia Victory
• MLB 13: The Show

 

Ill take games over anything. Sorry thats just me tho ;) 
So for me. PS3 easily wins. 

Ribnarak

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

no thanks.
I myself don't like the Halo series or the Gears series.
That means: A 360 without halo 3, odst, 4, gears 2, 3.
You can have your Forza, and fable. 

However take any 2 franchises out of sony: ill take out resistance and killzone.
im left with:
Uncharted1,2,3, God of war, demons souls, warhawk, LBP, all stars battle royale, infamous, mgs4, MAG, heavenly sword, val. chronicles, heavy rain, ratched and clank: crack in time, journey, motorstorm apocalypse, yakuza 4, GT5

Upcoming:

• The Last of Us
• God of War: Ascension
• Dust 514
• Beyond: Two Souls
• Ni no Kuni
• Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
• Tales of Xillia
• The Witch and the Hundred Knights
• Puppeteer
• Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Twilight Land
• Until Dawn
• Hyperdemsion Neptunia Victory
• MLB 13: The Show

 

Ill take games over anything. Sorry thats just me tho ;) 
So for me. PS3 easily wins. 

NathanDrakeSwag

Because you are going by some 90+ rating scale that includes garbage like GRAW and PDZ because its the only way 360 doesn't get exposed as the joke it is.

Yeah only by including 360s tons of awesome games can 360 win :roll:

Just say what you fvcking mean: you're a fanboy and NO 360 games will EVER count for you no matter how brilliant or superior or new they are.

Didn't really answer my question.Miketheman83

Would it surprise you to know that I don't really care to answer your question, because it's a stupid question?

big a*s post/Heil68

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

no thanks.
I myself don't like the Halo series or the Gears series.
That means: A 360 without halo 3, odst, 4, gears 2, 3.
You can have your Forza, and fable. 

However take any 2 franchises out of sony: ill take out resistance and killzone.
im left with:
Uncharted1,2,3, God of war, demons souls, warhawk, LBP, all stars battle royale, infamous, mgs4, MAG, heavenly sword, val. chronicles, heavy rain, ratched and clank: crack in time, journey, motorstorm apocalypse, yakuza 4, GT5

Upcoming:

• The Last of Us
• God of War: Ascension
• Dust 514
• Beyond: Two Souls
• Ni no Kuni
• Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
• Tales of Xillia
• The Witch and the Hundred Knights
• Puppeteer
• Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Twilight Land
• Until Dawn
• Hyperdemsion Neptunia Victory
• MLB 13: The Show

 

Ill take games over anything. Sorry thats just me tho ;) 
So for me. PS3 easily wins. 

Ribnarak

-Most high rated game library (fact)

-More hardware and software sales  than the PS3 (fact)

-Better multiplat games (fact)

-Most  amount of downloadable content including games, movies, music and TV (fact)

- Most online features (fact)

-Most  comfortable controller (popular  opinion)

-Faster  download speeds and no mandatory installs(fact)

I'm  not sure how any true gamer can overlook these facts. Most Sony fans will say that none of this matters, it's all about exclusives. However if you look at the exclusive games on both platforms over 90 on Metacriric, they have the exact same amount. When you factor in 360/PC games the PS3 doesn't get the 360 comes out on top with more high rated games.

Sony fans can hate the 360 all you want but the 360 is technically a superior console based on facts. 

 

Miketheman83

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

Please do tell us all these other features besides cross game chat.

locopatho

You can't even send voice messages on PSN. How fu*king archaic is that.

XBL is just a lot more intuitve in areas, such as sending mass invites. Being able to open numerous voice channels or chat with groups of people in parties. Even simple things like showing you on one screen what most of your friends are playing, what they've played recently etc. With PSN, you have to go into each of your friends individual profiles, and even then I don't think it shows what they played recently or what app theyve been using etc.

That sounds like the time it takes for 360s home page to load since the Kinect dashboard update.

Yeah, the PS3 has the better list of exclusives. .PurpleMan5000

[QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"] I couldn't imagine how somebody could like Uncharted but dislike Gears. I think both series are great, but they are also both 3rd person corridor shooters with chest-high walls when you get down to it. Uncharted gives a better illusion of openness and does a better job with set pieces, but the gameplay is pretty similar.PurpleMan5000

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]Yeah, the PS3 has the better list of exclusives. .Heil68

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Cool list of games bro. How is it possible that the PS3 gas this many exclusives yet the 360 still has more high rated games?locopatho

Because you are going by some 90+ rating scale that includes garbage like GRAW and PDZ because its the only way 360 doesn't get exposed as the joke it is.

Yeah only by including 360s tons of awesome games can 360 win :roll:

Just say what you fvcking mean: you're a fanboy and NO 360 games will EVER count for you no matter how brilliant or superior or new they are.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

You can't even send voice messages on PSN. How fu*king archaic is that.

XBL is just a lot more intuitve in areas, such as sending mass invites. Being able to open numerous voice channels or chat with groups of people in parties. Even simple things like showing you on one screen what most of your friends are playing, what they've played recently etc. With PSN, you have to go into each of your friends individual profiles, and even then I don't think it shows what they played recently or what app theyve been using etc.

NathanDrakeSwag

That sounds like the time it takes for 360s home page to load since the Kinect dashboard update.

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]Yeah, the PS3 has the better list of exclusives. .Miketheman83

 I asked for your list and you still havent. is it really that hard to provide a list? BTw those games i listed were off the top of my head.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

Because you are going by some 90+ rating scale that includes garbage like GRAW and PDZ because its the only way 360 doesn't get exposed as the joke it is.

PurpleMan5000

Yeah only by including 360s tons of awesome games can 360 win :roll:

Just say what you fvcking mean: you're a fanboy and NO 360 games will EVER count for you no matter how brilliant or superior or new they are.

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Heil68"] Yup, the most hardcore, corest of core too. Ribnarak

 I asked for your list and you still havent. is it really that hard to provide a list? BTw those games i listed were off the top of my head.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] I'm not, I'm using 90+ as desirable games. The fact that they are all hardcore games is just an observation.

Miketheman83

Are you really going to obsess about the wording in the title and ignore the original post? 

Are you admitting that the wording in your title has nothing to do with the OP? You used the word hardcore, and then you list things such as:

• -More hardware and software sales  than the PS3 (fact)
• -Most  amount of downloadable content including games, movies, music and TV (fact)
• - Most online features (fact)
• -Most  comfortable controller (popular  opinion)
• -Faster  download speeds and no mandatory installs(fact)

which have absolutely nothing to do with a console being "Hardcore". You are unable to even give me examples of games that are hardcore. You say a hardcore game is one that is not made for casuals, but then we have games lke COD, which are rated higher than 90, and are clearly aimed towards casual gamers and is meant to be as accessible as possible. Matter of fact, tons of games this gen are meant to be super accessible for casual audiences.

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Cool list of games bro. How is it possible that the PS3 gas this many exclusives yet the 360 still has more high rated games?locopatho

Because you are going by some 90+ rating scale that includes garbage like GRAW and PDZ because its the only way 360 doesn't get exposed as the joke it is.

Yeah only by including 360s tons of awesome games can 360 win :roll:

Just say what you fvcking mean: you're a fanboy and NO 360 games will EVER count for you no matter how brilliant or superior or new they are.

I think Nintendo is a bigger joke than M$ but even they have more exclusives than 360. It is not an opinion man, 360 just doesn't have many exclusives and most of the ones it does have are really shitty failures like Too Human and Blue Dragon. It didn't coin the phrase HaloGearsForza by mistake, there is truth to it and you know it.

:lol:

oh wait, you are serious?

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] It's a shame every critic in the business disagrees with you guys. Better luck next gen?Heil68

 I asked for your list and you still havent. is it really that hard to provide a list? BTw those games i listed were off the top of my head.

nice list. :lol: , too bad the OP won't ever understand how lame that "list" is.

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"] What is a hardcore game? Examples please.BPoole96

Are you really going to obsess about the wording in the title and ignore the original post? 

Are you admitting that the wording in your title has nothing to do with the OP? You used the word hardcore, and then you list things such as:

• -More hardware and software sales  than the PS3 (fact)
• -Most  amount of downloadable content including games, movies, music and TV (fact)
• - Most online features (fact)
• -Most  comfortable controller (popular  opinion)
• -Faster  download speeds and no mandatory installs(fact)

which have absolutely nothing to do with a console being "Hardcore". You are unable to even give me examples of games that are hardcore. You say a hardcore game is one that is not made for casuals, but then we have games lke COD, which are rated higher than 90, and are clearly aimed towards casual gamers and is meant to be as accessible as possible. Matter of fact, tons of games this gen are meant to be super accessible for casual audiences.

[QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] It's a shame every critic in the business disagrees with you guys. Better luck next gen?Heil68

 I asked for your list and you still havent. is it really that hard to provide a list? BTw those games i listed were off the top of my head.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

Because you are going by some 90+ rating scale that includes garbage like GRAW and PDZ because its the only way 360 doesn't get exposed as the joke it is.

NathanDrakeSwag

Yeah only by including 360s tons of awesome games can 360 win :roll:

Just say what you fvcking mean: you're a fanboy and NO 360 games will EVER count for you no matter how brilliant or superior or new they are.

I think Nintendo is a bigger joke than M$ but even they have more exclusives than 360. It is not an opinion man, 360 just doesn't have many exclusives and most of the ones it does have are really shitty failures like Too Human and Blue Dragon. It didn't coin the phrase HaloGearsForza by mistake, there is truth to it and you know it.

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

Yeah only by including 360s tons of awesome games can 360 win :roll:

Just say what you fvcking mean: you're a fanboy and NO 360 games will EVER count for you no matter how brilliant or superior or new they are.

locopatho

I think Nintendo is a bigger joke than M$ but even they have more exclusives than 360. It is not an opinion man, 360 just doesn't have many exclusives and most of the ones it does have are really shitty failures like Too Human and Blue Dragon. It didn't coin the phrase HaloGearsForza by mistake, there is truth to it and you know it.

can you list some of these "great" games.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] I'm not, I'm using 90+ as desirable games. The fact that they are all hardcore games is just an observation.

Miketheman83

Are you really going to obsess about the wording in the title and ignore the original post? 

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

Yeah only by including 360s tons of awesome games can 360 win :roll:

Just say what you fvcking mean: you're a fanboy and NO 360 games will EVER count for you no matter how brilliant or superior or new they are.

locopatho

I think Nintendo is a bigger joke than M$ but even they have more exclusives than 360. It is not an opinion man, 360 just doesn't have many exclusives and most of the ones it does have are really shitty failures like Too Human and Blue Dragon. It didn't coin the phrase HaloGearsForza by mistake, there is truth to it and you know it.

And they are all available on other platforms except for HaloGearsForza.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] A game that isn't made for casuals.

Are you really going to obsess about the wording in the title and ignore the original post? 

Miketheman83

Are you admitting that the wording in your title has nothing to do with the OP? You used the word hardcore, and then you list things such as:

• -More hardware and software sales  than the PS3 (fact)
• -Most  amount of downloadable content including games, movies, music and TV (fact)
• - Most online features (fact)
• -Most  comfortable controller (popular  opinion)
• -Faster  download speeds and no mandatory installs(fact)

which have absolutely nothing to do with a console being "Hardcore". You are unable to even give me examples of games that are hardcore. You say a hardcore game is one that is not made for casuals, but then we have games lke COD, which are rated higher than 90, and are clearly aimed towards casual gamers and is meant to be as accessible as possible. Matter of fact, tons of games this gen are meant to be super accessible for casual audiences.

Hence why I bolded movies, music and TV numb nuts. Plus you mentioned game sales, download speeds, online features, and control comfort, all of which have nothing at all to do with determining how hardcore something is.

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

Yeah only by including 360s tons of awesome games can 360 win :roll:

Just say what you fvcking mean: you're a fanboy and NO 360 games will EVER count for you no matter how brilliant or superior or new they are.

locopatho

I think Nintendo is a bigger joke than M$ but even they have more exclusives than 360. It is not an opinion man, 360 just doesn't have many exclusives and most of the ones it does have are really shitty failures like Too Human and Blue Dragon. It didn't coin the phrase HaloGearsForza by mistake, there is truth to it and you know it.

why would anyone play multiplats on 360? it is a poor mans pc and 99% of their library is better played on a real pc.

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Are you admitting that the wording in your title has nothing to do with the OP? You used the word hardcore, and then you list things such as:

• -More hardware and software sales  than the PS3 (fact)
• -Most  amount of downloadable content including games, movies, music and TV (fact)
• - Most online features (fact)
• -Most  comfortable controller (popular  opinion)
• -Faster  download speeds and no mandatory installs(fact)

which have absolutely nothing to do with a console being "Hardcore". You are unable to even give me examples of games that are hardcore. You say a hardcore game is one that is not made for casuals, but then we have games lke COD, which are rated higher than 90, and are clearly aimed towards casual gamers and is meant to be as accessible as possible. Matter of fact, tons of games this gen are meant to be super accessible for casual audiences.

BPoole96

Hence why I bolded movies, music and TV numb nuts. Plus you mentioned game sales, download speeds, online features, and control comfort, all of which have nothing at all to do with determining how hardcore something is.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

I think Nintendo is a bigger joke than M$ but even they have more exclusives than 360. It is not an opinion man, 360 just doesn't have many exclusives and most of the ones it does have are really shitty failures like Too Human and Blue Dragon. It didn't coin the phrase HaloGearsForza by mistake, there is truth to it and you know it.

Krelian-co

why would anyone play multiplats on 360? it is a poor mans pc and 99% of their library is better played on a real pc.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

I think Nintendo is a bigger joke than M$ but even they have more exclusives than 360. It is not an opinion man, 360 just doesn't have many exclusives and most of the ones it does have are really shitty failures like Too Human and Blue Dragon. It didn't coin the phrase HaloGearsForza by mistake, there is truth to it and you know it.

Krelian-co

why would anyone play multiplats on 360? it is a poor mans pc and 99% of their library is better played on a real pc.

There's no such thing as a hardcore console. They're all casualized. The hardcore experience can be found only on the PC.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

I think Nintendo is a bigger joke than M$ but even they have more exclusives than 360. It is not an opinion man, 360 just doesn't have many exclusives and most of the ones it does have are really shitty failures like Too Human and Blue Dragon. It didn't coin the phrase HaloGearsForza by mistake, there is truth to it and you know it.

Krelian-co

why would anyone play multiplats on 360? it is a poor mans pc and 99% of their library is better played on a real pc.

.

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] As I said: none of their games will ever count for you. There's literally hundreds of great games on 360 but you'll smash your head into a brick wall over and over again going LOL NO GAMEZ KINECT. 360 kicked PS3's ass in overall library and Wii kicked PS3's ass in exclusives. So enjoy your lastplacestation, it didn't win a thing ;)Miketheman83

why would anyone play multiplats on 360? it is a poor mans pc and 99% of their library is better played on a real pc.

i think your trauma with cows is affecting your thinking, or just your usual lack of neurones, please elaborate:

how is a cow fantasy that everyone plays on pc, do tell me please.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

I think Nintendo is a bigger joke than M$ but even they have more exclusives than 360. It is not an opinion man, 360 just doesn't have many exclusives and most of the ones it does have are really shitty failures like Too Human and Blue Dragon. It didn't coin the phrase HaloGearsForza by mistake, there is truth to it and you know it.

NathanDrakeSwag

And they are all available on other platforms except for HaloGearsForza.

So what? (and there's tons more exclusives then that. You just ignore them cos you're a lying fanboy) If you need to strap a PC to your PS3 to beat 360, it just shows how weak the PS3 is.

If all you care about is exclusives then the Wii won.

There's no such thing as a hardcore console. They're all casualized. The hardcore experience can be found only on the PC.

Frostbite24

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] As I said: none of their games will ever count for you. There's literally hundreds of great games on 360 but you'll smash your head into a brick wall over and over again going LOL NO GAMEZ KINECT. 360 kicked PS3's ass in overall library and Wii kicked PS3's ass in exclusives. So enjoy your lastplacestation, it didn't win a thing ;)locopatho

why would anyone play multiplats on 360? it is a poor mans pc and 99% of their library is better played on a real pc.

but in the real world most people can afford two systems, or at least the better one the pc, which makes the xbox highly irrelevant.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] The game console with the best multiplat GAMES, most amount of downloadable GAME content and most high rated GAMES has nothing to do with GAMES? Are you on crack?Miketheman83

Hence why I bolded movies, music and TV numb nuts. Plus you mentioned game sales, download speeds, online features, and control comfort, all of which have nothing at all to do with determining how hardcore something is.

I'm pointing out that your majority of support for your OP is irrelevent. Take away all those irreleent things and we are left with "360 has more high rated hardcore games". Since that is really you're only relevant point, I feel it should be looked into more, and determining what is hardcore and what is not is important to your argument, since that is really your only point.

The highlight was definitely RROD. 

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

why would anyone play multiplats on 360? it is a poor mans pc and 99% of their library is better played on a real pc.

Krelian-co

but in the real world most people can afford two systems, or at least the better one the pc, which makes the xbox highly irrelevant.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

why would anyone play multiplats on 360? it is a poor mans pc and 99% of their library is better played on a real pc.

Krelian-co

but in the real world most people can afford two systems, or at least the better one the pc, which makes the xbox highly irrelevant.

The 360 having tons if multiplats the PS3 doesn't alone makes the 360 a Better  standalone console. 

Facts are the PS3 has more high rated retail games according to industry critics(Metacritic+Gamerankings)

Facts are the PS3 has more high rated exclusives.

Facts are the PS3 has more high rated New IP's.

Facts are the PS3 had more award winning games.

More GOTY's.

More Console Graphics Kings.

TLHBFR.

:lol:

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]

There's no such thing as a hardcore console. They're all casualized. The hardcore experience can be found only on the PC.

Miketheman83

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Cos I want to. If you want to say the PS3 goes better as a secondary with a PC, then a 360, then sure, I agree with that. When discussing which console is better in general, they have to stand on their own merits though.locopatho

but in the real world most people can afford two systems, or at least the better one the pc, which makes the xbox highly irrelevant.

well to each their own, i still think pc + ps3 is the way to go.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

but in the real world most people can afford two systems, or at least the better one the pc, which makes the xbox highly irrelevant.

Krelian-co

well to each their own, i still think pc + ps3 is the way to go.

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] As I said: none of their games will ever count for you. There's literally hundreds of great games on 360 but you'll smash your head into a brick wall over and over again going LOL NO GAMEZ KINECT. 360 kicked PS3's ass in overall library and Wii kicked PS3's ass in exclusives. So enjoy your lastplacestation, it didn't win a thing ;)locopatho

And they are all available on other platforms except for HaloGearsForza.

So what? (and there's tons more exclusives then that. You just ignore them cos you're a lying fanboy) If you need to strap a PC to your PS3 to beat 360, it just shows how weak the PS3 is.

If all you care about is exclusives then the Wii won.

In terms of games it goes PS3>Wii>360, in sales it goes Wii>PS3>360. Multiplats will always be better on PC so you have no argument there. What does 360 win at? $60 a year to watch netflix and play Call of Halo online?

The only people who benefit from 360 is M$ and Duracell. Gamers get nothing in return but multiplats that are better elsewhere.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

but in the real world most people can afford two systems, or at least the better one the pc, which makes the xbox highly irrelevant.

Krelian-co

well to each their own, i still think pc + ps3 is the way to go.