Can Super Smash Bros Save Wii U?

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Poll Can Super Smash Bros Save Wii U? (77 votes)

Yes 13%
No 57%
Super Smash Bros Along With Mario Kart Can 30%

The fourth installment in Nintendo's biggest series for its home consoles is about to hit the Wii U later this year; Super Smash Bros games sell a crazy amount, and they sell an equally crazy amount of consoles with them. Do you think that Super Smash Bros. 4 will save the Wii U to any degree? Bump system sales upon release? Or do you think that it also being on the 3DS will hurt it a little?

Do you think that Smash alone won't be able to save the Wii U, but Smash and Kart together might help it at least a little?

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#51 Shielder7
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One or 2 games alone cannot save a system.

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#52  Edited By KBFloYd
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its over char...

lets just hope nintendo doesnt cancel the wiiU and keeps releasing great games for it.

mario kart and smash bros look awesome.

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#53 Naylord
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Any hardcore smash fan knows that project M is where it's at. I'll buy smash 4 for my 3ds for casual on the go play but when I really need to scratch the itch it's project M all the way. For those who don't know what it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIxskj3UFV0

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#54  Edited By AugustEvans
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Absolutely nothing can save the wii u....nothing. There hasn't EVER been a console to launch with as much problems as the Wii U has.

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#55 hiphops_savior
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@augustevans said:

Absolutely nothing can save the wii u....nothing. There hasn't EVER been a console to launch with as much problems as the Wii U has.

Wii U

  • it is coming off a wildly successful Wii console that plateaued two years before the Wii U was in development
  • every console it made before the 3ds made a profit
  • Nintendo in nowhere near as bad of a shape as either Sega or Sony
  • Nintendo has the liquid assets to absorb one bad generation, no matter how amplified the consequences
  • Wii U is selling at a loss, but a loss that is easily negated if one software is bought

Dreamcast

  • Coming after Sega had two consecutive
  • Genesis CD was a failure that confused the market
  • Saturn was a failure that was abandoned early
  • Sega is losing money
  • the Dreamcast was their last hurrah before the PS2 comes along
  • poor security and rampant piracy killed the viability of the system

It took Sega three flops in a row before they tapped out GG. Nintendo until now never took significant losses financially, and when they do, it's isolated enough to not do significant damage.

is Smash Bros going to save the system? Arguably at this point, Sony has already surpassed Nintendo as the number one brand in gaming. It would still be a hell of a game, and that is all that matters.

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#56 GamingGod999
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No.

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#57 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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@TwistedShade: Great 2013 lineup? Do you mean OK Q2 and stellar Q4? Next to nothing released outside of those windows.

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#58 AugustEvans
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@hiphops_savior said:
@augustevans said:

Absolutely nothing can save the wii u....nothing. There hasn't EVER been a console to launch with as much problems as the Wii U has.

Wii U

  • it is coming off a wildly successful Wii console that plateaued two years before the Wii U was in development
  • every console it made before the 3ds made a profit
  • Nintendo in nowhere near as bad of a shape as either Sega or Sony
  • Nintendo has the liquid assets to absorb one bad generation, no matter how amplified the consequences
  • Wii U is selling at a loss, but a loss that is easily negated if one software is bought

Dreamcast

  • Coming after Sega had two consecutive
  • Genesis CD was a failure that confused the market
  • Saturn was a failure that was abandoned early
  • Sega is losing money
  • the Dreamcast was their last hurrah before the PS2 comes along
  • poor security and rampant piracy killed the viability of the system

It took Sega three flops in a row before they tapped out GG. Nintendo until now never took significant losses financially, and when they do, it's isolated enough to not do significant damage.

is Smash Bros going to save the system? Arguably at this point, Sony has already surpassed Nintendo as the number one brand in gaming. It would still be a hell of a game, and that is all that matters.

I'm talking about the system itself, not Nintendo. The dc was a much better console despite sega's downfall.

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#59 Sword-Demon
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No single game can save a system.

It will certainly help though. The more great games released on the Wii U, the more people will want to own one.

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#60  Edited By mario-galaxys
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More likely another price cut for the Wii U will save it. Other than a price cut, is better marketing.

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#61 Audacitron
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@lamprey263 said:

We hear it a lot, but what does "save Wii U" mean?

After all Nintendo is still maintaining marginal profits so it's not like the system is sinking them.

The trouble is it gets harder to persuade stores to carry the thing.

Some of the big chains have demonstrated that they have little faith in it's future. They don't want to stock it or its games.

Wii U isn't enough to destroy Nintendo singlehandedly, but its failure will damage their reputation and any successor console they produce will face an uphill struggle. It's crucial that they emerge from this debacle with their dignity intact, and a lot of customer goodwill.

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#62  Edited By AzatiS
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If mario didnt , which was an exceptional game once more , i dont see how Smash bros will.

For sure will drive some sales , specially in US ( i think ) but wont turn around PS4s/X1s momentum imho. If Wii U costed around 200$ with a good title ( lets say Zelda WW remake digital download ) ... Then yes. But to cost 300$ when PS4 is at 399 !! Thats an overkill.

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#63 trugs26
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@Naylord said:

Any hardcore smash fan knows that project M is where it's at. I'll buy smash 4 for my 3ds for casual on the go play but when I really need to scratch the itch it's project M all the way. For those who don't know what it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIxskj3UFV0

Who knows, they might mod the new Smash Bros. game, then that might be the go to for Smash enthusiasts.

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#64  Edited By Capitan_Kid
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Doubt it. Especially with the 3DS cannibalizing its sales

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#65  Edited By wolverine4262
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Not when its also coming to 3DS.

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#66 madsnakehhh
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They will sell a good amount of consoles, that's for sure.

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#67  Edited By hotdiddykong
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I dont understand why people go with the philosophy of "Saving"

There is no "Saving"

The Wii U is simply gonna keep getting great games in the long run and this year is hopefully home to plenty. You guys are forcing it.

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#68 Angryduck67
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I don't think anyone will be saving the Wii U. At best we are looking at another Gamecube, and I do not have a problem with that because I've never gotten a Nintendo system for the purpose of being my primary gaming device. I don't expect to play them everyday, as long as I can get a few great Nintendo games a year and a handful of decent downloadable stuff, I'm good. With that being said, the 3DS was looking pretty bleak when I picked it up and that has become my primary gaming device by a long shot. Especially since I got into those Etrian Odyssey games. So I guess it could surprise us, but I don't think it will. What with tablets and smartphones and cheap, mass-market laptops that can run apps I think the Wii U just cant squeeze into those pants, which is tragic because it's such a better console than the Wii ever was. Either way, those guys have proven again and again that they can turn coal into diamonds, even if they have to do it by themselves.

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#69  Edited By ermacness
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I really can't say, but 1 thing I can surely say is that, if GS flops SSB for the Wii-U, then SW will be the one need saving that day.

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#70  Edited By VendettaRed07
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Nintendo needs a handful of games that take advantage of the technological leaps they have made and something that is appealing to the masses on the superficial level because that matters. They need a game that pushes the tech. A game that aims "big"....A game that makes people say "WOW" the first time they see it. This word of mouth "its fun to play" approach only goes so far in this 'megahype, extreme doritos advertising' era.

They need to develop more games that look fun to play... Games that look like a big step up from the games that have come before it the very first time they lay eyes on it.