'But no one cares for weeaboo games'

Right, that's how things are determined on System Wars, whatever the most number of people say obviously has to be the truth.

Nice try weeaboo!

That a serious question? Char has been making threads like this for years. "PS4 greatest console of all time" type of threads. Yeah he's a troll and this isn't the 1st time I've said it nor am I the 1st.

@charizard1605: Better than just brushing it off and blatantly ignoring you painting a fanbase with a brush and making your post right after Scalebound has been canceled. Kick'em while they're down right?

He is trolling. Oddly enough, when a very similar thread comes out about the PS brand, it gets locked. Double standards.

Personally, there's no better vote of confidence for a game than handing over your money. If Japanese game purchases are small for 360 gamers, then the lemmings have a point in brushing them off.

Or use it as a catalyst to vocalize thoughts, opinions, and discussions that it either induced, or made more pertinent.

But no, why should I be allowed to engage in any discussion or voice my opinions? I am a mod!

@kingtito: And again, I don't see this thread nor his other threads trolling. This is SW after all.

And the fallout of that is that Xbox routinely gets outsold by games that do have 'weeaboo games,' so... no?

Things I learned with this thread: The Last Guardian flopped (9/10 @ Gamespot). The more you know!

@charizard1605: And I've already addressed the false premise of your OP. You just keep ignoring it but by all means pretend you're interested in discussing your opinion.

So why lock other threads that do the same thing?

Japanese developed games are making a comeback. Meanwhile Western studios are pooping the bed lately.

I responded to your response as well (you were the one who ended that line of discussion, my last post to you remains unanswered). And I continue responding to others who are actually bothering to make counterpoints to what they said in this very thread. So yeah, I am pretty interested in discussing my opinion, thanks.

I've had my eyes opened with the fallout from Scalebound in terms of the XBox fanbase. I'm actually convinced that a majority of them do not feel the way that the vocal minority does. I openly admit that my blanket statements about the XBox fanbase have been wrong these past few years. However, there is a vocal contingent of haters that have hijacked the XBox from the actual good fans the console has.

After all. It's undeniable that the XBox had its best days during the early 360 era when not only were they bringing pain to Sony's doorstep but they were also consciously making an effort to cultivate Japanese development support. Once upon a time, XBox fans were absolutely chomping at the bit to "steal" games like Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Devil May Cry, and many others. When they rolled up the carpet and focused on Kinect, things went in the direction we see now. Many XBox fans are suffering from the whiplash effect. They bought a box, watched E3 and got hyped, then the games just don't show up. It's not what they bargained for and they aren't happy. Why should they be?

This gen is a FAR cry from the Microsoft that won gaming gems like Lost Odyssey. The "Weaboo Games Suck Patrol" are literally killing the XBox. Sadly, it's blatantly evident that MS is listening to that subset of hardcore fans the past six years and their business is suffering for it.

That's because the term has been perverted by fanboys to include ANYTHING Japanese. A really shitty tactic employed by losers.

That's nice but I do see it that way as do others. You hell bent on trying to change my opinion? I saw Char as a troll even before he became a mod. Don't like my opinion? That's fine, just ignore my post.

No you haven't. You said more Xbox fans say they aren't interested in weeaboo games and I asked you to back that up with actual data and you haven't answered that.

You asked "why aren't there more games on the platform" and I answered your the guys up at Microsoft decide that. I thought we were discussing the fans' opnions and not the guys running the show.

I said the divide has nothing to do with Xbox vs Playstation and that it was far more cultural than platform based and you blatantly ignored that as well. As if brogamers or weeaboo haters aren't a common sight on Playstation.

A vocal minority of idiots is an entire fanbase now.

@charizard1605: This is the worst thread you have ever made. When I make fun of Weeaboo games, I mean Japanese games the shoehorn their crappy "Anime" and J-Pop culture in their games. You know, extremely niche games like Hatsune Miku? Do I make fun of Persona? Yes I do! Do I make fun of Dark Souls, MGS, and Resident Evil? No, because they sell unlike those Tales games and other supposely "huge" demands that Japanese game fans all hype when they have no clue that they're a huge minority that sounds very loud in internet gaming forums.

Two mods clearly showing their favoritism and or contempt for a system in this thread. eh, it's not like it was ever a well kept secret or anything.

Hey Steveo and Artist and where's mac... get yo azz in here and give at least the illusion of balance will ya? lolol :P

You must have missed a bunch of other threads...

Gotta be honest, I never actually saw that post, apologies there.

To respond to that, no, it's not just the higher ups at Microsoft that make those decisions. Third parties decide that too- if Japanese third parties are deciding en masse that they won't support Xbox, after supporting Xbox for years with Xbox 360, that has to mean something, right? What does it mean? Most likely, it means that those games aren't being purchased, and therefore supported or accepted, by Xbox owners. How, then, is that indication that the Xbox fanbase accepts those games?

And how exactly is it culture based? I need to point out that hating on 'weeaboo gamers' was never a thing until the Xbox came on to the scene.

Maybe if MS would focus on diversifying their game lineup, we would have all the balance we need without appealing to platform partisans to even the playing field?

And yet, as I point out, you are wrong for dismissing those games, because the cumulative effect of those games is that the PlayStation consistently outsells the competition.

Damage control for the Gravity Rush 2 flop I suspect.

I mean I never used the term cause I never heard it before LOL.

But they (MS) do diversify their line up. Even check out their most recent Weeaboo game, ReCore from Microsoft. I know a ton of people that like that game. Look at the outcry gamers had for getting Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey as BC, and MS listened.

Though I haven't played ReCore, so I should just STFU :)

Haven't a clue what you're talking about. The X1 has every genre covered with more games than a human being could possibly play in a lifetime and with a biggie coming soon that Sony/Nintendo have nothing quite like it, Sea of Thieves. Me thinks you need an X1S in a bad way mah friend. Just sayin.. :P

You're right. Everything is okay. How could Microsoft possibly improve on the perfection that is their game lineup? Sorry, I see the light now.

To me it comes across as a trolling name, like Eurotrash, Murica, Weeaboo. Just childish BS. That is why I don't use the terms Lems, Cows, Hermits anymore. Just stooping to their level.

@kvally: I don't think you understand what the word flop means. Whatever makes your boat float though.

Not really. Of the 3, only you made decent arguments. The other 2 are just full fledged fan boys,

Sony has a more diverse library and are willing to take more risk than MS. Thats why they are leading this gen.

Oh I do. I just move the goal posts here like everyone else does.

Hey now, don't get cute with me lol I kid but really never said that, only stating the Fax mam, X1 has all genres covered with more than enough games to keep any gamer busier than a cat trying to cover shit on a marble floor and that's damn busy if ya know what I mean. :P

I guess you were joking? I'd like to see a list of all visual novels, dating sims or sims in general. When we focus on the X1 alone, it barely has any (turn-based) strategy games, jrpgs or mmorpgs. And that's just a few genres that came to my mind

Yep, I stopped using them a long time ago as well, they're just derogatory terms meant to demean someone for being different.

I never said it couldn't be better. I agree that they need more Japanese games, but they sure as **** ain't gonna make them if Japanese aint buying their console. You realize Microsoft has given up on Japan. They will be an American/Euro box going forward.

In the end the guys at Microsoft give the green light or red light. There are factors influencing their decisions but they are the ones who have the final say. You asking why there aren't a greater variety of games as if the fanbase doesn't want them because the management decides not to release them is circular logic and ignores who really decides what gets released on the platform.

The Xbox 360 had a year head start over the PS3 and didn't start with the debacle of Don Mattrick and Kinect. Whether or not the 360 having more weeaboo games was a deciding factor or not remains to be proven.

It's culture based because the divide is East vs West. Japan vs NA/Europe. It has nothing to do with the Xbox brand vs PS brand. Japanese games tend to be more successful on the PS because it has a larger footprint in Japan and is by far the more popular console and Japanese games tend to appeal more to Japanese gamers. They appeal less to western gamers because they are simply less culturally ingrained here and are not part of our gaming culture as much as games like DOOM or Halo are. It has nothing to do with Xbox fans shunning weeaboo games.

Weeaboo is a meme and a satire kinda like PC Master Race. To further prove my point why isn't PC a haven for JRPG's? Until recently Japanese publishers mostly ignored the PC and favored consoles. Hell the biggest weeaboo game of the year isn't even confirmed on PC yet. PC gaming simply isn't that big in Japan and PC gamers hating on weeaboo games is as common if not more common than Xbox gamers hating on them. Know where the majority of PC gamers are?(ignoring China)? They're in the west too. Iconic PC games like Half-Life, Counter-Strike or Diablo are awfully similar to iconic Xbox games like Halo or Fable aren't they? That's simply because PC is traditionally a western platform, just like Xbox.

Give Xbox gamers a plethora of Japanese games and they won't shun them any more than PS gamers do. They both have a bunch of idiots who can't stand what is foreign to them. Xbox fans aren't more guilty of that than PS fans which is what your OP implies.

Is Yakuza and Shenmue consider wee boo?? or whatever hell it call??? If so I'm the biggest wee boo fan!

Right, I see what you are saying, but I would say I disagree with the points. As I pointed out, the Xbox 360 did get a whole lot of support from Japanese developers and publishers, even for 'weeaboo' games- Tales of Vesperia, Persona 4 Arena, Catherine, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Ninety Nine Nights, Eternal Sonata, it even had some exclusives like Steins;Gate- the most lauded visual novel of all time started life as an Xbox exclusive, and was Xbox exclusive right up until they finally ported it to PS4 and PS Vita just a little over a year ago.

But those games didn't sell- they didn't just not sell in Japan, where the argument of cultural penetration and cache at least holds merit, since Japan I admit is an incredibly culturally insular country, but they also failed to sell in the west to any degree. There's a reason why Tales jumped ship to PlayStation exclusivity after the Vesperia debacle, a reason that Mistwalker never made any more games for Xbox after Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon, a reason that most Japanese developers and publishes do not support the Xbox any more. My point is, for whatever reason, these 'weeaboo games' are outright not doing well on Xbox.

... which brings me to the PC. That's very important here, because on PC, these games are seeing a lot of success, to the point that the PC has replaced the Xbox as Japanese publishers' preferred SKU to maximize international sales. Why is it that PC, a traditionally western platform, with iconic games similar to Xbox's iconic games, saw these 'weeaboo' Japanese games be successful, but Xbox did not, especially when the makeup should be similar for both platforms as you pointed out?

My thesis here based on what I see is that for whatever reason, Xbox's base seems to shun an entire category of games, and it comes back to haunt the platform in the long run. Incidentally, this is no different (although less severe and concerning) than Nintendo fans shunning 'dudebro' games, causing en masse exodus of third party support from Nintendo paltforms.

It's a chicken-or-the-egg argument. Who would buy hardware that doesn't support their tastes in gaming? Goes so far as to make a concerted effort on doubling down on a very specific type of user? I just don't agree and I feel like the numbers are on my side.

So, in conclusion Xbox suck because Japanese devs prefer to make game on a Japanese developed home console.

We will just agree to disagree, aint no thing.

@Archangel3371: A game cannot be weaboo. A weaboo or rather a japanaphile is a person obsessed with anime and Japanese culture to the point where it's unhealthy (and possibly annoying). They sprinkle their Internet speech and maybe irl speech with Japanese words. They also tend to have a false fantasy of what japan might be like from watching too much anime. Some even have gross fantasies about Japanese women and anime girls.

I will admit though some anime clichés do make it into these games maybe that's what bothers people.

They don't care because they can't have it even if they wanted to. The day Xbox brand (that's never happening so forget about it) gets Japanese titles support, is the day "they will care". Xbox is all about mainstream shooters while PS has access to all. No wonder its outselling Xbone 5:1.

The last numbers for the Xbox One was 20 millions so, based on your nonsense PS4 has sold a 100 million. I guess logic, reason and facts are things of the past.

Facts don't belong here.

Sorry, I forgot this is a new America. My bad.

He might be referring to pace of sales than install base, but yeah, Xbox One is at an estimated 28 million worldwide, while PS4 is at 54 million. The ratio is not even 2:1.