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#51 dgsag
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And sadly, I was one of those 1 million. What a waste of money that game was.foxhound_fox

I thought it was worth my $30. ;)

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#52 deactivated-5de2fb6a3a711
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]And sadly, I was one of those 1 million. What a waste of money that game was.dgsag

I thought it was worth my $30. ;)

I paid $50 for the game. you're just lucky you got it at a lower price. :(

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#53 AdrianWerner
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Competition from what?

Vaan7
From the most competitive line-up of FPSes the market has ever seen? It had to directly compete with STALKER, Orange Box, UT3, QuakeWars, Crysis and CoD4.
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#54 killab2oo5
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arent hermits always bragging about their huge fanbase? lulz thats not impressive at allgohan2710
>.> Twas thinking the same thing. So many threads on how the PC makes up 50% of the gaming revenue,over 180 million nvidia users (something like that),how the Sims sold over 100 million...it's more impressive that the 360 with only 19million users sold just as much,if not more,than the PC version. :roll: Really...the only people who make "PC is dying" threads are the "hermits" themselves...get over it people. T_T Are we that strained on news that we have to make the same threads 10x over and over??
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#56 crunchUK
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PC gaming isn't dying, it just doesn;t get the massive media and press attention that consoles get. i belive i can call that fact.
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#57 PandaBear86
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Not every computer can run BioShock, otherwise it would have sold loads more. BioShock is still moderately high-end. However, as time goes on, even low-end PCs will be able to run the game. Did you know that laptops are beginning to out-perform consoles? Its not all desktop computers anymore :)

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#58 Muzzle_Flashes
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But I thoughtz teh PC Gamingz was dying?

http://weblogs.variety.com/the_cut_scene/2008/06/ken-levine-re-n.html

QUOTE: "Coming off the big commercial success (2.2 million units sold) and even bigger critical success of the game, Levine has become one of the very few recognizable and respected names in the videogame development community and he's trying to use that to get the creative freedom and compensation he feels he deserves..."

NVIDIA statement:

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=148824&page=2

"A very successful PC game sells 2 to 3 million - well, we have more than enough GeForce users for that too. Crysis has sold over a million copies on PC, despite everything. BioShock sold over a million on PC. Pick any successful PC title you can think of - selling over a million is being done, and will continue to happen."

The PC version made up at least 50% of sales for a title that was primarily promoted on the Xbox 360 before any of its other fall blockbusters came out. Where's the dying, Consolites? :roll:

dgsag

And MGS4, a console game sold half its sales in day one, Halo 3, so it's sales and more in day one...is there any pc game in this past year or 2 that achieved that?Any pc game that has over 5 million sales that released from 2007 to now with those sales?Exactly....

PC gaming isn't dead, it just doesn't sell anywhere near the amount that console games do...

I mean nvida said something about like 160 million nvida gamers, but this game took over a year and only sold 2 million....Lol, pc gaming isn't dead, it's just on life support sucking on every small chance of life it can get but ending up getting putting in the dirt by inferior consoles...

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#59 aliblabla2007
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What I find even more interesting is that STALKER sold almost as much as Bioshock, despite being a PC-only game with marketing budget not even 10% as big as Bioshock's one and with nowhere near as much hype :)

And it blew away sales of PC Bioshock. Hopefuly it will be a further proof for developers that it's worth the effort not to dumb down PC games :)

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STALKER came out before Bioshock, so I suspect that has to contribute a bit.

BTW (not to you AW), there's a certain reason PC games almost never break a million in mere days. They take their time and don't "drop" sales as quickly as console titles.

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#60 XenogearsMaster
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Why are Hermits desperately trying to prove that PC gaming is not dying?

It's just a million sold...

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And MGS4, a console game sold half its sales in day one, Halo 3, so it's sales and more in day one...is there any pc game in this past year or 2 that achieved that?Any pc game that has over 5 million sales that released from 2007 to now with those sales?Exactly....

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'IRVINE, Calif. - January 23, 2007 - Blizzard Entertainment® today announced that World of Warcraft®: The Burning CrusadeTM has broken the day-one sales record to become the fastest-selling PC game ever in North America and Europe, with a worldwide total of nearly 2.4 million copies sold in the first 24 hours of availability'

You lose....

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#62 skrat_01
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I was one of the Million.

Have to say post meeting Ryan the game went downhill. Damn the ending sucked.

Still a great game though.

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#63 rgame1
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for the number of 360s and PCs, that's not that good...-RocBoys9489-

that.

plus halo sold 8 million on 1 console.

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#64 Baranga
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[QUOTE="Muzzle_Flashes"]

And MGS4, a console game sold half its sales in day one, Halo 3, so it's sales and more in day one...is there any pc game in this past year or 2 that achieved that?Any pc game that has over 5 million sales that released from 2007 to now with those sales?Exactly....

tenaka2

'IRVINE, Calif. - January 23, 2007 - Blizzard Entertainment® today announced that World of Warcraft®: The Burning CrusadeTM has broken the day-one sales record to become the fastest-selling PC game ever in North America and Europe, with a worldwide total of nearly 2.4 million copies sold in the first 24 hours of availability'

You lose....

Now that's what I call pwnage:lol:

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#65 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]for the number of 360s and PCs, that's not that good...rgame1

that.

plus halo sold 8 million on 1 console.

With a mega million dollar marketing campaign, that no other game in history has got :|

Sims sold 30 million on PC with no mega million marketing campaign whatsoever.

Go figure.

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#66 fishfake
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for the number of 360s and PCs, that's not that good...-RocBoys9489-

hm.. so the ps2 was a flop then right ? :roll:

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#67 dgsag
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[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]for the number of 360s and PCs, that's not that good...rgame1

that.

plus halo sold 8 million on 1 console.

Hmm, I didn't really see Crysis or Bioshock posters covering my city or my slurpees having Nomad or a Big Daddy on them. :|

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[QUOTE="Muzzle_Flashes"]

And MGS4, a console game sold half its sales in day one, Halo 3, so it's sales and more in day one...is there any pc game in this past year or 2 that achieved that?Any pc game that has over 5 million sales that released from 2007 to now with those sales?Exactly....

tenaka2

'IRVINE, Calif. - January 23, 2007 - Blizzard Entertainment® today announced that World of Warcraft®: The Burning CrusadeTM has broken the day-one sales record to become the fastest-selling PC game ever in North America and Europe, with a worldwide total of nearly 2.4 million copies sold in the first 24 hours of availability'

You lose....

Doubly. MGS4 lost to an expansion. And this doesn't even include electronic sales, which aren't trackable at present. Bioshock is available through Steam, so there's a fair chance there are even more sales there that aren't being mentioned.

Also, to the consolites, show us a game that can sell consistently well for well over 12 months. You see, PC sales are for the long haul, and as the old fable shows, slow and steady is usually the way to go.

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="Muzzle_Flashes"]

And MGS4, a console game sold half its sales in day one, Halo 3, so it's sales and more in day one...is there any pc game in this past year or 2 that achieved that?Any pc game that has over 5 million sales that released from 2007 to now with those sales?Exactly....

HuusAsking

'IRVINE, Calif. - January 23, 2007 - Blizzard Entertainment® today announced that World of Warcraft®: The Burning CrusadeTM has broken the day-one sales record to become the fastest-selling PC game ever in North America and Europe, with a worldwide total of nearly 2.4 million copies sold in the first 24 hours of availability'

You lose....

Doubly. MGS4 lost to an expansion. And this doesn't even include electronic sales, which aren't trackable at present. Bioshock is available through Steam, so there's a fair chance there are even more sales there that aren't being mentioned.

Also, to the consolites, show us a game that can sell consistently well for well over 12 months. You see, PC sales are for the long haul, and as the old fable shows, slow and steady is usually the way to go.

Exactly, I bet consolites didn't know that games like Doom 3 and Battlefield 2 sold over 4 million copies to date...

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for the number of 360s and PCs, that's not that good...-RocBoys9489-

indeed, IMO this confirms pc gaming is dying

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But I thoughtz teh PC Gamingz was dying?

http://weblogs.variety.com/the_cut_scene/2008/06/ken-levine-re-n.html

QUOTE: "Coming off the big commercial success (2.2 million units sold) and even bigger critical success of the game, Levine has become one of the very few recognizable and respected names in the videogame development community and he's trying to use that to get the creative freedom and compensation he feels he deserves..."

NVIDIA statement:

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=148824&page=2

"A very successful PC game sells 2 to 3 million - well, we have more than enough GeForce users for that too. Crysis has sold over a million copies on PC, despite everything. BioShock sold over a million on PC. Pick any successful PC title you can think of - selling over a million is being done, and will continue to happen."

The PC version made up at least 50% of sales for a title that was primarily promoted on the Xbox 360 before any of its other fall blockbusters came out. Where's the dying, Consolites? :roll:

dgsag
Are you telling me that an installed usebase of roughly 13 million so easily beat the massive hermit army? lulz.
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But I thoughtz teh PC Gamingz was dying?

http://weblogs.variety.com/the_cut_scene/2008/06/ken-levine-re-n.html

QUOTE: "Coming off the big commercial success (2.2 million units sold) and even bigger critical success of the game, Levine has become one of the very few recognizable and respected names in the videogame development community and he's trying to use that to get the creative freedom and compensation he feels he deserves..."

NVIDIA statement:

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=148824&page=2

"A very successful PC game sells 2 to 3 million - well, we have more than enough GeForce users for that too. Crysis has sold over a million copies on PC, despite everything. BioShock sold over a million on PC. Pick any successful PC title you can think of - selling over a million is being done, and will continue to happen."

The PC version made up at least 50% of sales for a title that was primarily promoted on the Xbox 360 before any of its other fall blockbusters came out. Where's the dying, Consolites? :roll:

dgsag

THIS OWNS ALL CONSOLE FANBOYS IN A ROW /THREAD /POST OF THE FORUM

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#73 IgorVitaly
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Are you telling me that an installed usebase of roughly 13 million so easily beat the massive hermit army? lulz.usmcjdk6

Dont get offensive and fell wounded becouse yo uare in a cramped position. The "army" you belong to just cant hold it. Face it farmers with forks fail against Nanosuit soldiers, fact.

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#74 Killer2401
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I just got a 9600gt, dual core, 4gb ram computer So I hope it's not dieing and Im a ps3 fan all the way but nobody wants to see pc gaming die anyway, I think people more just like to get a rise out of pc fanboys more than anything

bigLLL

I just got a new graphics card to replace my hunk of junk 6150se (I got and 8400gs) so PC gaming better not die! And that's coming from someone that's a 360 fan.

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#75 Luminouslight
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[QUOTE="bigLLL"]

I just got a 9600gt, dual core, 4gb ram computer So I hope it's not dieing and Im a ps3 fan all the way but nobody wants to see pc gaming die anyway, I think people more just like to get a rise out of pc fanboys more than anything

Killer2401

I just got a new graphics card to replace my hunk of junk 6150se (I got and 8400gs) so PC gaming better not die! And that's coming from someone that's a 360 fan.

Er, just so you know, that isn't that much better :? .

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[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]for the number of 360s and PCs, that's not that good...mingo123

indeed, IMO this confirms pc gaming is dying

so that means the 360 is also dying isnt it ?

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[QUOTE="dgsag"]

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]for the number of 360s and PCs, that's not that good...-RocBoys9489-

It's kinda funny... I see more threads saying PC gaming "isn't Dead" than anything else coming from the hermits... WHat the hell happened to the *insert PC game here* will destroy teh console's... :? OhSnapitz

arent hermits always bragging about their huge fanbase? lulz thats not impressive at allgohan2710

Whaddya know? Three of the first 5 posts are damage control.

Even if Bioshock sold 3 million, that's still bad for the, ummmm, 100 million install base?

The PC install bae is not comprised of gamers, the gamers are only a small part of it. Don't be ridiculous.
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[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="dgsag"]

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]for the number of 360s and PCs, that's not that good...ithilgore2006

It's kinda funny... I see more threads saying PC gaming "isn't Dead" than anything else coming from the hermits... WHat the hell happened to the *insert PC game here* will destroy teh console's... :? OhSnapitz

arent hermits always bragging about their huge fanbase? lulz thats not impressive at allgohan2710

Whaddya know? Three of the first 5 posts are damage control.

Even if Bioshock sold 3 million, that's still bad for the, ummmm, 100 million install base?

The PC install bae is not comprised of gamers, the gamers are only a small part of it. Don't be ridiculous.

And what about all those enthusiast graphics cards being bought from nVidia and ATI?
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#79 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]for the number of 360s and PCs, that's not that good...mingo123

indeed, IMO this confirms pc gaming is dying

Confirms console gaming is dead. Especially when so many consoles games are being ported to PC :|

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[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="dgsag"]

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]for the number of 360s and PCs, that's not that good...HuusAsking

It's kinda funny... I see more threads saying PC gaming "isn't Dead" than anything else coming from the hermits... WHat the hell happened to the *insert PC game here* will destroy teh console's... :? OhSnapitz

arent hermits always bragging about their huge fanbase? lulz thats not impressive at allgohan2710

Whaddya know? Three of the first 5 posts are damage control.

Even if Bioshock sold 3 million, that's still bad for the, ummmm, 100 million install base?

The PC install bae is not comprised of gamers, the gamers are only a small part of it. Don't be ridiculous.

And what about all those enthusiast graphics cards being bought from nVidia and ATI?

Ever consider that not everybody wants to play Bioshock? :roll:

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#81 skrat_01
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And what about all those enthusiast graphics cards being bought from nVidia and ATI?HuusAsking
What about all those Xbox 360s sold? Even MSs temporary console exclusivity of the title.
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#82 AdrianWerner
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re you telling me that an installed usebase of roughly 13 million so easily beat the massive hermit army? lulz.usmcjdk6
In sales of a game that was dumbed down to specificaly suit 360 gamers? Yeah, that's surprising :D
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#83 dgsag
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[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="dgsag"]

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]for the number of 360s and PCs, that's not that good...HuusAsking

It's kinda funny... I see more threads saying PC gaming "isn't Dead" than anything else coming from the hermits... WHat the hell happened to the *insert PC game here* will destroy teh console's... :? OhSnapitz

arent hermits always bragging about their huge fanbase? lulz thats not impressive at allgohan2710

Whaddya know? Three of the first 5 posts are damage control.

Even if Bioshock sold 3 million, that's still bad for the, ummmm, 100 million install base?

The PC install bae is not comprised of gamers, the gamers are only a small part of it. Don't be ridiculous.

And what about all those enthusiast graphics cards being bought from nVidia and ATI?

MGS3 sold only 3 million, and the entire PS2 install base could run it. :|

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#84 blackdreamhunk
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lol i love this thread now think what would have happened if bio shock was made only for pc. lol it would have been a way better game lol maybe graphics like crysis lol
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#86 skrat_01
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lol i love this thread now think what would have happened if bio shock was made only for pc. lol it would have been a way better game lol maybe graphics like crysis lolblackdreamhunk
I just cant help but think if it was made in vein of System Shock 2, and less of a run and gun shooter.

If this game was more of a survival horror, and the RPG elements were deeper, it could have been downright amazing.

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#87 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

And what about all those enthusiast graphics cards being bought from nVidia and ATI?dgsag

Ever consider that not everybody wants to play Bioshock? :roll:

:roll: Ever consider that it doesn't really matter? Why else would someone get an enthusiast graphics card except to make games look good, whether it be for BioShock, Crysis, or whatever. The fact that nVidia and ATI are making a killing in that market is a pretty clear sign quite a lot of people game on their computers.
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#88 agentfred
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arent hermits always bragging about their huge fanbase? lulz thats not impressive at allgohan2710

You guys are impossible to please. Nothing is good enough for you. :P

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#89 dgsag
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[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

And what about all those enthusiast graphics cards being bought from nVidia and ATI?HuusAsking

Ever consider that not everybody wants to play Bioshock? :roll:

:roll: Ever consider that it doesn't really matter? Why else would someone get an enthusiast graphics card except to make games look good, whether it be for BioShock, Crysis, or whatever. The fact that nVidia and ATI are making a killing in that market is a pretty clear sign quite a lot of people game on their computers.

Yeah, and unlike an average console, there's a lot of quality AAA games that one can choose from to play using those cards.

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#90 APOLLOCJD
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I don't think PC game is dyin but I do think just a little over a million is a sad figure when your compairing it to the Xbox 360 or anything other console with a much smaller install base. But again piracy has ALOT to do with that...
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#91 Baranga
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I don't think PC game is dyin but I do think just a little over a million is a sad figure when your compairing it to the Xbox 360 or anything other console with a much smaller install base. But again piracy has ALOT to do with that...APOLLOCJD

Yup, too bad GTA4 has about 3000 seeders on the first page (there are 5-6 different torrents) of a major tracker.

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#92 blackdreamhunk
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the witcher sold 2 mill, gw sold 5 mill, wow 10 mill and sim alot. starcarft still selling so is fall out.
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#93 HuusAsking
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I don't think PC game is dyin but I do think just a little over a million is a sad figure when your compairing it to the Xbox 360 or anything other console with a much smaller install base. But again piracy has ALOT to do with that...APOLLOCJD
It's a lot better than you think when you factor the following:

1. Increased competition (you have a much larger existing library to overcome).

2. Lower development costs (you don't need expensive customized devkits unless you want to). This allows for a lower break-even point.

3. Sins of a Solar Empire made its terrific sales with no copy protection. Crysis made its sales despite a high barrier of entry. And explain why Orange Box sold best on PC even though it was available for both 360 and PS3 (with the former day and date).

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#94 blackdreamhunk
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[QUOTE="APOLLOCJD"]I don't think PC game is dyin but I do think just a little over a million is a sad figure when your compairing it to the Xbox 360 or anything other console with a much smaller install base. But again piracy has ALOT to do with that...HuusAsking

It's a lot better than you think when you factor the following:

1. Increased competition (you have a much larger existing library to overcome).

2. Lower development costs (you don't need expensive customized devkits unless you want to). This allows for a lower break-even point.

3. Sins of a Solar Empire made its terrific sales with no copy protection. Crysis made its sales despite a high barrier of entry. And explain why Orange Box sold best on PC even though it was available for both 360 and PS3 (with the former day and date).

sin of the solar empire made 2 mill and still selling
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#96 leejohnson7
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It's a shame about the game its self though.

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#97 lillefix
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I don't think PC game is dyin but I do think just a little over a million is a sad figure when your compairing it to the Xbox 360 or anything other console with a much smaller install base. But again piracy has ALOT to do with that...APOLLOCJD

And why exactly should anyone care about the attachment rate to the computers? It's not a console(Not that see the point with reference to consoles either, I thought hard numbers were all that mattered).

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#98 dgsag
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[QUOTE="APOLLOCJD"]I don't think PC game is dyin but I do think just a little over a million is a sad figure when your compairing it to the Xbox 360 or anything other console with a much smaller install base. But again piracy has ALOT to do with that...lillefix

And why exactly should anyone care about the attachment rate to the computers? It's not a console(Not that see the point with reference to consoles either, I thought hard numbers were all that mattered).

Yeah, the cows and the lems do anything to spin these things, even though their "proof" that PC gaming is dying slowly evaporates day by day.

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#99 VirtuaCast
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I don't know what is more pathetic. Fanboys saying PC gaming is dying or fanboys constantly saying PC gaming is not dying.yellowandmushy

This is system Wars every one says so and so is dying game over ha ha. Defiantly fanboys constantly saying PC gaming is not dying is pretty bad here. It's like they think we really believe that PC gaming is dieing so they have to scold us. Actually it seems some of them do think think PC gaming diminishing in the way some react.

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#100 foxhound_fox
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I thought it was worth my $30. ;) dgsag

You are lucky, I wasted $80 on that mediocre garbage. Got a cool figurine out of it though so it wasn't all loss.

I was one of the Million.

Have to say post meeting Ryan the game went downhill. Damn the ending sucked.

Still a great game though.

skrat_01

Both endings sucked and the majority of the build up to those endings pretty much sucked. The gameplay was atrociously boring as well. I would rather they had just made System Shock 3 and appealed to the SS fans instead of simplifying it for the wider audience.