Bethesda or Bioware - Which is king of the RPG this gen?

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#1 h575309
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OK, so since Im bored of most of these threads today I figured Id see which dev people prefer here. My vote goes to Bioware, and I think it will probably win by a country mile, but Fallout 3 was really awesome and Oblivion does have a large fanbase. So whos your fav?

Just a refresher this gen -

Bethesda - Fallout 3 (plus numerous expansions), Oblivion (with numerous expansions), coming soon apparently not Fallout New Vegas (producer though)

Bioware - Dragon Age Origins, Mass Effect, coming soon Mass Effect 2, Star Wars The Old Republic (MMO)

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#2 locopatho
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Has to be Bioware. Just for sheer quantity and variety of games, plus miles better storylines. I still love Bethesda games though.
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Bioware wins by a landslide.

I think they have genuinely made the best RPG's this gen. All have excellent storylines with enjoyable characters and worlds.

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#4 Zero5000X
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Bethesda's games seem more like action-adventure games.
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#5 Wasdie  Moderator
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If I had to pick I would say Bioware.

Though Gearbox just came out with a gem and Blizzard is about to wow us with Diablo 3 next year.

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#6 ironcreed
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BioWare...by far and wide.

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#7 Animal-Mother
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I have to say bethesda, Though I have not played DAO yet. FO3 is my one of my favorites of the generation

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#8 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Easly Bioware. They perfectly craft story and character development with tons of possibilities in character design. Every NPC you meet is so fleshed out in personality and has a rich history, you really feel like they existed before you encountered them and had a life, not just sprang into being to be there to provide you a quest. Nobody does game replay value in a sp experience like they do. I would even go so far as to say when it comes to RPG design, Bioware isn't just better than Bethesda - they are without equal :D

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#9 jg4xchamp
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Bioware for quantity. CDprojekt Red wins for best RPG of the gen so far though. Them or Atlus with Persona 4.
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#10 Parasomniac
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I can't even choose. Played both of their games a ton and each have their strengths and weaknesses.
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#11 wayne_kar
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Bioware easy for me. although i did LOVE fallout 3.

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#12 soliderPp
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For Star Wars: The Old Republic alone. :D

Come on Bioware don't let me down now!

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#13 h575309
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Bioware for quantity. CDprojekt Red wins for best RPG of the gen so far though. Them or Atlus with Persona 4. jg4xchamp
MM yea, the witcher was alright. Apparently that runs on Bioware's engine though...
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#14 kitty_katty
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If I had to pick I would say Bioware.

Though Gearbox just came out with a gem and Blizzard is about to wow us with Diablo 3 next year.

Wasdie

I was gonna say Gearbox as well :D Borderlands in my opinion is better than any of the offerings of Bioware or Bethesda.

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#15 TREY_FOR_LI4E
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Neither company made Valkyria Chronicles or Demon's Souls, so I'm going to have to go with None of the Above.

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#16 blizzle
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Bioware, since Bethesda doesn't really make RPGs. Bethesda are more like the king of fake RPGs, in their current games stats have no meaning or effect and also have no choices or consequences.

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The RPG king is Modern Warfare 2 - they got the best RPG launchers.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Bioware for quantity. CDprojekt Red wins for best RPG of the gen so far though. Them or Atlus with Persona 4. h575309
MM yea, the witcher was alright. Apparently that runs on Bioware's engine though...

:?

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Bioware, I personally dislike Bethesda games.

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#20 h575309
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[QUOTE="soliderPp"]

For Star Wars: The Old Republic alone. :D

Come on Bioware don't let me down now!

I cant freakin wait for that game. From what Ive seen, it might ruin my life. Star Wars + Bioware touch + MMO = Epic win. Itll be nice to start an MMO at the very beginning too, since I started WoW like 4 years too late, and it just wasnt fun.
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#21 badtaker
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Bioware. But Witcher is still the best (imo)
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#22 reaver-x
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Bioware easily. bethesda needs a lot of work in the RPG development department. They need to understand that RPG's need to have good epic stories and that dumbass constant side questing belongs in an MMO
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#23 h575309
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Bioware for quantity. CDprojekt Red wins for best RPG of the gen so far though. Them or Atlus with Persona 4. Ncsoftlover

MM yea, the witcher was alright. Apparently that runs on Bioware's engine though...

:?

Thats what it says on GS page. And what can I say, I didnt like the witcher that much.
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OK, so since Im bored of most of these threads today I figured Id see which dev people prefer here. My vote goes to Bioware, and I think it will probably win by a country mile, but Fallout 3 was really awesome and Oblivion does have a large fanbase. So whos your fav?

Just a refresher this gen -

Bethesda - Fallout 3 (plus numerous expansions), Oblivion (with numerous expansions), coming soon Fallout: New Vegas

Bioware - Dragon Age Origins, Mass Effect, Neverwinter Nights 2, coming soon Mass Effect 2, Star Wars The Old Republic (MMO)

h575309

Bioware didnt make NWN2,Obsidian did.

Fallout:New Vegas is also being made by Obsidian,Not Bethesda.

both companies are far from kings...but Bioware slaughters Bethesda out of the two.

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Though Betheseda did had some great games this generation with Fallout 3 and The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, I personally think Bioware just did more to sway me their way. Games like Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect got my interest more and is more enjoyable for me. I am also curious on how Star Wars: The Old Republic would turn out when it finally hits store shelves.

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#26 AGMing
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bioware any day of the week, Bethesda havent made a proper RPG since morrowind.
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This gen? It's Fallout 3 vs Mass Effect for me. It's a hard pick, but I'll go with BioWare. Can't wait until I have Dragon Age in my hands.
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#28 h575309
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[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

[QUOTE="h575309"]

OK, so since Im bored of most of these threads today I figured Id see which dev people prefer here. My vote goes to Bioware, and I think it will probably win by a country mile, but Fallout 3 was really awesome and Oblivion does have a large fanbase. So whos your fav?

Just a refresher this gen -

Bethesda - Fallout 3 (plus numerous expansions), Oblivion (with numerous expansions), coming soon Fallout: New Vegas

Bioware - Dragon Age Origins, Mass Effect, Neverwinter Nights 2, coming soon Mass Effect 2, Star Wars The Old Republic (MMO)

Bioware didnt make NWN2,Obsidian did.

Fallout:New Vegas is also being made by Obsidian,Not Bethesda.

both companies are far from kings...but Bioware slaughters Bethesda out of the two.

Why does everyone sell off their great IPs to Obsidian, who usually slaughters them? Ugh, thanks though Ill change it.
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#29 Pixel-Pirate
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Batista? The wrestler? He does RPG'S?!

Oh wait, Bethesda....? Who the hell is Bethesda?

Either way the answer is Bioware.

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OK, so since Im bored of most of these threads today I figured Id see which dev people prefer here. My vote goes to Bioware, and I think it will probably win by a country mile, but Fallout 3 was really awesome and Oblivion does have a large fanbase. So whos your fav?

Just a refresher this gen -

Bethesda - Fallout 3 (plus numerous expansions), Oblivion (with numerous expansions), coming soon Fallout: New Vegas

Bioware - Dragon Age Origins, Mass Effect, Neverwinter Nights 2, coming soon Mass Effect 2, Star Wars The Old Republic (MMO)

h575309

Fallout New Vegas isn't even being made by Bethesda. ;)

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#31 h575309
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This gen? It's Fallout 3 vs Mass Effect for me. It's a hard pick, but I'll go with BioWare. Can't wait until I have Dragon Age in my hands.IronBass
Once you play it, it wont be a hard pick anymore.
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#32 h575309
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="h575309"]

OK, so since Im bored of most of these threads today I figured Id see which dev people prefer here. My vote goes to Bioware, and I think it will probably win by a country mile, but Fallout 3 was really awesome and Oblivion does have a large fanbase. So whos your fav?

Just a refresher this gen -

Bethesda - Fallout 3 (plus numerous expansions), Oblivion (with numerous expansions), coming soon Fallout: New Vegas

Bioware - Dragon Age Origins, Mass Effect, Neverwinter Nights 2, coming soon Mass Effect 2, Star Wars The Old Republic (MMO)

Fallout New Vegas isn't even being made by Bethesda. ;)

I know I know, relax, they are producing it though (so it looks).
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#33 finalstar2007
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Non of them, Square Enix would be the king of RPG's in my opinion

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#34 h575309
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Non of them, Square Enix would be the king of RPG's in my opinion

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They havent put out a whole lot of great stuff this gen
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#35 mo0ksi
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Non of them, Square Enix would be the king of RPG's in my opinion

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You mean the king of ports and remakes? In terms of cashing in on their previous success, they're great. But in terms of making fresh new games themselves, I would strongly disagree. Square should have never merged.
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Up until the release of Dragon Age I would narrowly have gone with Bethesda. However Dragon Age pretty much blow the competition out of the water. I love Fallout 3, but Dragon Age is in a league of it own.
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Bioware makes the best Single-player Role Playing Games. Period.

Bethesda is more eye-candy then actual depth IMO.

Fallout 3 and Oblivion LOOK awesome, but I do not like the RPG mechanics to be honest.

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bethesda does first person rpgs, they are great an all but they aren't real rpgs bioware....well.....baulders gate 'nuff said
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#39 h575309
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Up until the release of Dragon Age I would narrowly have gone with Bethesda. However Dragon Age pretty much blow the competition out of the water. I love Fallout 3, but Dragon Age is in a league of it own.Mazoch
Yea, Oblivion just didnt do it for me. I really shouldve liked the game, but I thought it ran kind of badly on a 360. Maybe Ill try it on PC one day. Fallout 3 was quite awesome though. And they definitely do great DLC, and support their games nicely to give them longevity. You could argue that GOTY Fallout 3 is almost a completely new game with all the DLC in the package.
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I feel like have more options and what I do makes more of a difference in Bioware's titles, and in that regard they would be my choice of a better "role playing" developer. However, to defend a Bethesda a bit I would say that they're way better at creating an explorable world that I get engaged in easy. If you could marry the two (Beware? Biowesda?) it would be perfect. Both have strengths, in terms of offering an role playing experience Bioware seems to have an edge.

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#41 Zero5000X
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I agree with the CD Projekt Red part. I am having a hard time deciding which I like better: The Witcher or Dragon Age.
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#42 archvile_78
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Bioware wins by a landslide.

I think they have genuinely made the best RPG's this gen. All have excellent storylines with enjoyable characters and worlds.

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This, could never get into Oblivion and Fallout 3.

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i dislike bethesda games for som reason :/

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Bioware. Bethersda comes close imo

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Cannot wait for ME2. Really wish I could get it on PC , though I played the first on 360. Urgh. I wonder what the SR's will be for ME2?

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#46 glez13
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Just by looking to the list Bioware for sure. Add also the fact that Bethesda pulled the "lets change the focus of games to appeal to the masses" move. Not popular with the fans.

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Before Dragon Age I would probably say I like bioware more, they make better rpg, but bethesda is more successful.

Now I can say Bioware for sure, I have a feeling the SWTOR may be their most commercially successful game.

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#48 Kandlegoat
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Just by looking to the list Bioware for sure. Add also the fact that Bethesda pulled the "lets change the focus of games to appeal to the masses" move. Not popular with the fans.

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Bioware, no doubt. Good poll results, SW's. *claps*

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One produces soulless sandbox games, the other makes RPGs.