Battlefield 3 (ONLY 30 FPS ON CONSOLES!!!!!!!!!)

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#1 Gotham-Calls
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Downgrading the graphics is one thing but hindering the performance is another. Another reason why battlefield 3 has no chance against mw3 this fall.Call of duty is a console shooter and BF3 is not. Dice just dropped the ball and this game is obviously theirs to lose. http://n4g.com/news/789532/battlefield-3-30fps-on-consoles-dice-explains-why-60fps-not-possible

and no 1080p to bury themselves even deeper.http://n4g.com/news/789381/confirmed-no-1080p-for-battlefield-3-on-consoles-ps3-footage-is-latest-build

I'am officially off the BF3 train and on the mw3 one.

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#2 el3m2tigre
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Well.... that's unfortunate.... still looks better than MW3 so far.

Tell me would you play sesame street if it ran 120 FPS? I'd also like to add that a very high percentage of console games are around 30FPS.

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#3 noxboxlive
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And?

EDIT: and i havnt seen a game with destruction that hasnt ran at 30fps on xbox/ps3. im pretty sure its imposible with 2006 tech

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#4 mitu123
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30FPS is normal for most console games.

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#5 Badosh
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Oh no, I'm heart broken. EFF YOU BF3!!!
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#6 AiurProtoss
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All i read was "hurr durrr durrr call of the duty is at 60 fps meaning its betterz!!!" Well ask yourself this. Does MW3 have giant open maps, does it have destructable environments including buildings, does it have vehicles, is it rendered at 1280x720, and most importantly does it have dedicated servers. Thats what I thought.

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#7 racing1750
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30FPS is playable, not brilliant, but still acceptable on the consoles.
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#8 Arach666
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I thougth console gamers here didn´t had any problems with playing games at 30fps,or now they do?

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#9 AiurProtoss
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I thougth console gamers here didn´t had any problems with playing games at 30fps,or now they do?

Arach666

we dont its jsut a COD fanboy trying to start **** and getting owned in the process.

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#10 DarkLink77
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1. Most console games run at 30 FPS, including better shooters than Call of DUty like Halo, and Battlefield.

2. Anyone who thinks that Call of Duty maintains a consistent 60 FPS on consoles is out of their damn mind. The games looks like crap on consoles and they are sud-HD (which doesn't matter, but they are) to get close to 60 FPS.

3. Consoles struggle with 720p. 1080p is out of the question this gen. You can count the number of console games that run at 1080p and a consistent 60 FPS on two hands.

You'd think this would be obvious by now, but I guess not.

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#11 Ironbash
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Battlefield at 10 fps > any cod at 120 fps for me anyday

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#12 Inconsistancy
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It's impressive that a 7800gt can get it to 30fps in the first place, what's your point? It's a pc lead game, go play it on pc if you want 60fps, they weren't willing to sacrifice all the graphics/physics to get it upto 60fps.
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#13 cyborg100000
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You always was on the MW3 train by the sounds of it.

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#14 alfredooo
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Halo games run at 30 FPS and they are miles better than all these crappy rehashed CoD crap.

30 FPS is perfectly fine on consoles unless we are talking about a hack n slash or fighting game.

Only hardcore hermits and CoD fanboys would find one game inferior to another solely because one runs at 30 FPS.

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#15 SRTtoZ
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Downgrading the graphics is one thing but hindering the performance is another. Another reason why battlefield 3 has no chance against mw3 this fall.Call of duty is a console shooter and BF3 is not. Dice just dropped the ball and this game is obviously theirs to lose. http://n4g.com/news/789532/battlefield-3-30fps-on-consoles-dice-explains-why-60fps-not-possible

and no 1080p to bury themselves even deeper.http://n4g.com/news/789381/confirmed-no-1080p-for-battlefield-3-on-consoles-ps3-footage-is-latest-build

I'am officially off the BF3 train and on the mw3 one.

Gotham-Calls

Do me a favor and give me a list of console games this gen that are 1080p AND 60 FPS. Thanks.

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#16 racing1750
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1. Most console games run at 30 FPS and anyone who thinks that Call of Duty maintains a consistent 60 FPS on consoles is out of their damn mind. The games looks like crap on consoles and they are sud-HD (whoch doesn't, but they are) to get close to 60 FPS.

2. Consoles struggle with 720p. 1080p is out of the question this gen.

You'd think this would be obvious by now, but I guess not.

DarkLink77
Some people seem to forget how old these consoles are. 2005 tech people!
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#17 Inconsistancy
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Do me a favor and give me a list of console games this gen that are 1080p AND 60 FPS. Thanks.

SRTtoZ

Ooo oooo, pick me, I'll do it! Forza4... maybe it's predecessor? :|

GT5's almost 1080p...

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#18 broken_bass_bin
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So you were actually expecting it to run at 1080p/60fps?

...why?

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#19 noxboxlive
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[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

Do me a favor and give me a list of console games this gen that are 1080p AND 60 FPS. Thanks.

Inconsistancy

Ooo oooo, pick me, I'll do it! Forza4... maybe it's predecessor? :|

GT5's almost 1080p...

okay First person shooters

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#20 mattuk69
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Shocking... Another console game at 30fps? That makes it 91% of console games running at 30fps shame on Dice...:roll:

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#21 alfredooo
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I thougth console gamers here didn´t had any problems with playing games at 30fps,or now they do?

Arach666

it's an old argument CoD fanboys used to claim their games were somehow superior to the actually good Halo 3. It got resurected last year when Reach was coming out. Now we see it again against BF3.

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#22 CPM_basic
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It's impressive that a 7800gt can get it to 30fps in the first place, what's your point? It's a pc lead game, go play it on pc if you want 60fps, they weren't willing to sacrifice all the graphics/physics to get it upto 60fps.Inconsistancy
It amazes me that some console gamers don't realize their off the shelf GPU's from 5-6 years ago can't keep up with PC graphics cards of 2011. The ps3 is basically a damn 7800gt, that's ancient tech!

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#23 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

I thougth console gamers here didn´t had any problems with playing games at 30fps,or now they do?

alfredooo

it's an old argument CoD fanboys used to claim their games were somehow superior to the actually good Halo 3. It got resurected last year when Reach was coming out. Now we see it again against BF3.

The only reason they use the FPS argument is because they have nothing else. :lol:
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#24 SRTtoZ
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

Do me a favor and give me a list of console games this gen that are 1080p AND 60 FPS. Thanks.

noxboxlive

Ooo oooo, pick me, I'll do it! Forza4... maybe it's predecessor? :|

GT5's almost 1080p...

okay First person shooters

Forza 4 isnt out yet...GT5 wasnt 1080p native, neither was Forza 3.

I THINK Wipeout HD is. But cmon that game doesnt have much going on...

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Well that is bad news to those who have to limit themselves to just consoles and wanted 60 fps

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#26 el3m2tigre
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[QUOTE="alfredooo"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

I thougth console gamers here didn´t had any problems with playing games at 30fps,or now they do?

DarkLink77

it's an old argument CoD fanboys used to claim their games were somehow superior to the actually good Halo 3. It got resurected last year when Reach was coming out. Now we see it again against BF3.

The only reason they use the FPS argument is because they have nothing else. :lol:

They also have "sales", but that doesn't really get them anywhere now does it?

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#27 Ilikemyname420
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30 frames per second!?

And here I was thinking the world was going to end in 2012....

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#28 Grawse
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We know, it will also be 720p. How pathetic.

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#29 mattuk69
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[QUOTE="noxboxlive"]

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] Ooo oooo, pick me, I'll do it! Forza4... maybe it's predecessor? :|

GT5's almost 1080p...

SRTtoZ

okay First person shooters

Forza 4 isnt out yet...GT5 wasnt 1080p native, neither was Forza 3.

I THINK Wipeout HD is. But cmon that game doesnt have much going on...

I got wipeout HD and its 720p. It has to be i game at 1080p and wipeout dont look that crisp at al.

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#30 AmayaPapaya
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I don't see the big deal. No one buys CoD because it runs at 60fps.

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#31 SRTtoZ
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[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

[QUOTE="noxboxlive"]

okay First person shooters

mattuk69

Forza 4 isnt out yet...GT5 wasnt 1080p native, neither was Forza 3.

I THINK Wipeout HD is. But cmon that game doesnt have much going on...

I got wipeout HD and its 720p. It has to be i game at 1080p and wipeout dont look that crisp at al.

It shows 1080p when I start up the game on my Samsung LCD TV...


Also

http://n4g.com/news/95384/wipeout-hd-1080p-60fps-and-jaw-droppingly-gorgeous

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#32 noxboxlive
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#33 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="alfredooo"]

it's an old argument CoD fanboys used to claim their games were somehow superior to the actually good Halo 3. It got resurected last year when Reach was coming out. Now we see it again against BF3.

el3m2tigre

The only reason they use the FPS argument is because they have nothing else. :lol:

They also have "sales", but that doesn't really get them anywhere now does it?

Neither of which really affects the actual gameplay. If this were something like, oh, say, Quake III, then 60 FPS would matter. But's its not. It's a console shooter.
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#34 DarkLink77
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all run at 60fps with 1080p [minus call of duty]

noxboxlive

According to what? Because I know for a fact that the 360 cannot do 1080p natively. It upscales to it from 720p, and there's a huge difference.

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#35 mitu123
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We know, it will also be 720p. How pathetic.

Grawse

As of now it's said to be 1280x704, a little below that.D=

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#36 AiurProtoss
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all run at 60fps with 1080p [minus call of duty]

noxboxlive

im sorry but upscaling doesnt count.

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#37 SRTtoZ
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[QUOTE="noxboxlive"]

Soul Calibur IV
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Lego Indiana Jones
Lego Batman

Rock Band
Rock Band 2
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Senko no Ronde

all run at 60fps with 1080p [minus call of duty]

DarkLink77

According to what? Because I know for a fact that the 360 cannot do 1080p natively. It upscales to it from 720p, and there's a huge difference.

Exactly, hes listing games that are UPSCALED to 1080p.


And btw Ninja gaiden 2 runs at 585p native LOL

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#38 mitu123
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all run at 60fps with 1080p [minus call of duty]

noxboxlive

Please be joking, only a few do that.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241

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1. Most console games run at 30 FPS, including better shooters than Call of DUty like Halo, and Battlefield.

2. Anyone who thinks that Call of Duty maintains a consistent 60 FPS on consoles is out of their damn mind. The games looks like crap on consoles and they are sud-HD (which doesn't matter, but they are) to get close to 60 FPS.

3. Consoles struggle with 720p. 1080p is out of the question this gen. You can count the number of console games that run at 1080p and a consistent 60 FPS on two hands.

You'd think this would be obvious by now, but I guess not.

DarkLink77
....and /thread
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#40 noxboxlive
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[QUOTE="noxboxlive"]

Soul Calibur IV
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Ninja Gaiden II

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Devil May Cry 4
Burnout Paradise

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Sensible World of Soccer
Lego Star Wars Complete Saga
Lego Indiana Jones
Lego Batman

Rock Band
Rock Band 2
Battle Fantasia
Senko no Ronde

all run at 60fps with 1080p [minus call of duty]

DarkLink77

According to what? Because I know for a fact that the 360 cannot do 1080p natively. It upscales to it from 720p, and there's a huge difference.

well its not a comfirmed list, i got it from a forum. and i wasnt ment to put "with 1080p" it should of been
"not sure if they run with 1080p"

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#41 CPM_basic
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="noxboxlive"]

Soul Calibur IV
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Ninja Gaiden II

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Burnout Paradise

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Sensible World of Soccer
Lego Star Wars Complete Saga
Lego Indiana Jones
Lego Batman

Rock Band
Rock Band 2
Battle Fantasia
Senko no Ronde

all run at 60fps with 1080p [minus call of duty]

noxboxlive

According to what? Because I know for a fact that the 360 cannot do 1080p natively. It upscales to it from 720p, and there's a huge difference.

well its not a comfirmed list, i got it from a forum. and i wasnt ment to put "with 1080p" it should of been
"not sure if they run with 1080p"

360 can do 1080p natively. For petes sake my computer from 1997 with a friggen Voodoo Banshee could do 1920 x 1200. Resolution means nothing really if you're not pushing the polygons and AA. A game can be 1080p and still look like crap.

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#42 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="noxboxlive"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] According to what? Because I know for a fact that the 360 cannot do 1080p natively. It upscales to it from 720p, and there's a huge difference.

CPM_basic

well its not a comfirmed list, i got it from a forum. and i wasnt ment to put "with 1080p" it should of been
"not sure if they run with 1080p"

360 can do 1080p natively. For petes sake my computer from 1997 with a friggen Voodoo Banshee could do 1920 x 1200. Resolution means nothing really if you're not pushing the polygons and AA. A game can be 1080p and still look like crap.

No, it can't actually.

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#43 Chris_Williams
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gamers act like spoiled brats sometimes, ITS NOT 1080 HD, ITS NOT RUNNING AT 60 frame rates, THE SHADOWS IN THE GAME AREN'T CRISP ENOUGH....jeez, i don't turn on my ps3 or 360 or pc to look at how pretty the trees are, i turn them on to have fun. try it sometime guys.

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#44 SilverChimera
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30fps with a controller is better than 30fps with a mouse.
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#45 TheEpicGoat
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Did you somehow think that from Bad Company 2 to Battlefield 3 they would magically make manage to go from 30 to 60.

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#46 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="CPM_basic"]

[QUOTE="noxboxlive"]

well its not a comfirmed list, i got it from a forum. and i wasnt ment to put "with 1080p" it should of been
"not sure if they run with 1080p"

DarkLink77

360 can do 1080p natively. For petes sake my computer from 1997 with a friggen Voodoo Banshee could do 1920 x 1200. Resolution means nothing really if you're not pushing the polygons and AA. A game can be 1080p and still look like crap.

No, it can't actually.

It really can dude. :P the games that run at 1080p on the consoles are 2d games, and sports games with low detail.

here's a real list of games that run in native 1080p on the consoles, from the beyond 3d forum.

there's only one or 2 retail titles that run native 1080p on the consoles, and they're bad games :P virtua tennis 3 and sacred 2.

quite a few psn and xbla games run in native 1080p though, at least 20.

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#47 FatSlasH
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You expected 60 fps and 1080P on console?

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

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#48 BrunoBRS
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last i checked, console games, including CoD, run on 30fps :|
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#49 Ilikemyname420
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last i checked, console games, including CoD, run on 30fps :|BrunoBRS
COD runs at 60fps (although it drops frames) but it's not surprising considering it largely looks like crap and it's sub-HD.
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#50 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="CPM_basic"] 360 can do 1080p natively. For petes sake my computer from 1997 with a friggen Voodoo Banshee could do 1920 x 1200. Resolution means nothing really if you're not pushing the polygons and AA. A game can be 1080p and still look like crap.

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No, it can't actually.

It really can dude. :P the games that run at 1080p on the consoles are 2d games, and sports games with low detail.

here's a real list of games that run in native 1080p on the consoles, from the beyond 3d forum.

there's only one or 2 retail titles that run native 1080p on the consoles, and they're bad games :P virtua tennis 3 and sacred 2.

quite a few psn and xbla games run in native 1080p though, at least 20.

Upscaled 1080p and 1080p are not the same thing.