Angry Joe reviews The Order: 1886

@Snugenz:

I'll make sure to comment on it when I eventually get around to playing it. I wasn't defending The Order. I'm just pointing out that there is a lot of inconsistencies with the "game" review process.

I am not even sure if i'll care for it. I tend to despise releases that don't let the player zone out into the actual gameplay. The best games, imo, are those that simply let the player play without breaking that sense of concentration/control. If you have ever gotten that feeling of "I don't feel like I am controlling the game, but somehow I am still playing", you'll know what I mean.

With that said, the medium has changed to the point where that is a rarity.

How dare you bring logic to this forum lol.......Love to see the comeback to this one.

Yeah, you will spoil half the game.

Anyway, the review was pretty spot on and it had some good jokes, i'm not the biggest Angry Joe fan but this one as well as the Evolve one were pretty good.

Ah yes Metacritic. The averaging website that uses sites such as LaPS4, PSX-Sense.nl and the oh so renowned and recognizable site of Merlin'in Kazani (Turkey).

Why use a metric that lets its average be influenced by PlayStation owned review sites and the unknown?

• IGN: 6.5
• GameSpot: 5.0
• Polygon: 55

Then there is Eurogamer who isn't even represented in Metacritic because Eurogamer does not provide a metric to rate the games they review instead rely on words to allow the reader to make their own decision:

The Order: 1886 isn't a disaster, nor is it a particularly good game. It's a hollow diversion, entertaining but outmoded and caught somewhere between a medium it repeatedly fumbles and one it fails to effectively embrace.

So yeah, I don't care about the average when it is so influenced by biased sources and others that you or I or the majority of people who use the site have even heard of.

@Ballroompirate said:

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

This is Angry Joe, who does very good reviews and gets posted a lot here. No need to be upset at this.

Much like every reviewer, they have people who agree and like their reviews and those who do not. Personally I overwhelmingly agree with what he puts out there.

His Order review, for instance, was quite spot on and very akin to what I experienced playing through the game.

Joe backs up his critiques with actual game footage. Like the busted AI for the wolves and the last battle which is a repeat of an earlier boss fight.

He also spends a solid 25-30 minutes discussing a games pro's and cons. Most professional sites have a five minute review that tries to explain huge games and they often miss some important aspects to the game.

His humor may be a bit cheesy but his reviews are very entertaining. I don't think Joe has ever not been able to justify the score he gives a game.

If I wanted to watch someone with dull humor, bitch and complain about 90% of the shit they are trying to discuss I'd go to 4chan, and the sad thing 4chan is fraking dumb as hell and is the mos eisley of the internet.

@Gue1 said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

My response that I posted in his video:

I totally agree.

A question though, a 4/10 is slightly below average? Huh, always been under the impression that anything below a 5 (out of ten) is a bad video game that verges on being broken.

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The game is vapid. A stinking pile of bleh

Kinda like the grading scale in school. My view of things.

• 100: Something everyone should look to experience without exception
• 90: A very impressive example nonetheless
• 80: A still very good game, though it might have a fault here and there
• 70: Good, better than most, but it has faults
• 60: Below average
• 50: Getting into the gray area of bad starting to outway the good
• 40 - 30: A bad game that is verging on broken
• 20: Garbage
• 10: Do. Not. Play (unless to experience the badness)

Oh, and Joe gave the game a 4 and GameSpot gave it a 5. Is it too much to label a game that scores a 4 or 5 as "vapid"?

lmao cows on full damage control

this guy is ALWAYS spot on and people say he's a shitty reviewer. You are shit! not his reviews.

"hands down the best looking console game to date" the end.

And I'm glad Joe goes out of his way to say its only the best looking CONSOLE game and not better than all "computer games", as he states.

If you've played both you would agree.

**** those websites. Polygon in particular who rate games based on its offensive content toward women like the 7/10 they gave to Bayonetta 2 because of the "male gaze". IGN that inflate scores of popular franchises like COD and Gamespot that is becoming an SJW nest nearly on par with Polygon's and Kotaku's. Then you avoiding the high scores of websites like Eurogamer Italy because it doesn't fit your narrative and that is very dishonest. And is not like I'm expecting much out of this forum but you sound like you want to be reasonable when you really aren't.

Eurogamer dropped scores only recently and they did it because of you guys and your obsession with scores that is ruining the entire industry. Games like The Order exist because of fear, because they want to play it safe but still failed. If Triple A devs weren't under so much pressure of reviewers, publishers, lost sales and even having to shut down the studio because of money issues due to bad scores you can bet they'd be more willing to be innovative and take risks. But based on the way things are if the game sells well it'll sends a bad message, If it doesn't sell it will only scare others devs from doing what they want to do. The industry has become this mass of fail and it's all because of us.

Who's forcing you to watch his show? Oh right, no one.

Because of the gamer? Is that us?

The game industry is the way it is because of the people who make the games. I realize it's not cool or hip to enjoy games like Call of Duty or Madden because they're released every year, but just because people enjoy them doesn't mean they're ruining the industry because people buy them in droves.

The Order should fail because it prioritizes itself over its gameplay - and what matters more than anything in a video game is the gameplay.

You mention innovative and risk taking? Where was that in the by-the-number QTE boss battles ala 2005 Resident Evil 4? The by-the-number cover shooting ala 2006 Gears of War (except not done as well because the camera is lodged up your asshole to provide "cinematic effect"). The only risk was ending the game (as if a truck ran into a mountain, a 100-0 dead stop) just right in the middle of the sent

and he's like the only one to actually use the full 10 point scale. Makes people butthurt

Um either I didn't get your sarcasm, or you are supremely off your rocker if you think anything about what RE4 was doing was by the numbers. It was a big departure for that franchise, it was the blue print on how to build over the shoulder third person shooters, and it influenced an entire generation of games last gen because so many of the set pieces these shoulder shooters (be it Gears, Dead Space, Alan Wake, Uncharted, or open world games like GTA and Red Dead) have their lineage go back to Resident Evil 4 doing it in 2005.

Gears might be heavily kill.switch with RE4's shoulder shooting, but to deny its place, importance, and impact would also be naive. Innovative is the wrong word sure, but so is describing them as "by-the-numbers" that's like a hilarious retcon of what the third person shooter genre was before 2005.

I didn't say Resident Evil 4 was by the numbers rather The Order is by-the-numbers.

I think I have caught on to Angry Joe's winning formula.

1 - Search internet message boards and Youtube comments for negative opinions towards games.

2 - Make a list of these comments and then yell them into a camera for 20-30 minutes.

3 - Wait a week to 10 days before posting the video.

4 - Sit back and watch people who have never played the game say the review is "spot on."

He seems to confirm my thoughts about it already, wait for a price drop to play it. Even if the game is forgettable, and even maybe offensive to the sensibility of gamers, the interesting setting and story of the game and the beautiful game engine, it still has potential if they plan on making sequels and if they do plan on making sequels I'm going to at least want to play this game.

Anyhow, did he say it took 5 years to make this game? If so, damn. Now I kind of have less hope now for a quality and timely sequel.

Joe taps into what normal gamers think of most games. Some of his gripes are completely overlooked by the mainstream critics.

And who the hell makes you think people care about his reviews, oh wait there's people who don't

You should probably stop making yourself looking like a hypocrite

@-God- said:

lmao cows on full damage control

Awesome! :D:D:D:D

Edit: Awesome movie too.

I don't know...the ONE MILLION subscribers he has...and the ONE MILLION views his reviews get.

And I don't think you know what the word hypocrite means.

Pretty much, which is sad cause it shows how fucking stupid gamers are now and days. A good majority of his reviews are just him bashing -said game- while doing shit Carrot Top comedy routines. His reviews are literally click bait reviews now, cause yea I'm gonna trust someones review(s) when they gave Guild Wars 2 a 10/10 and Far Cry 2 a 9/10.....yea ummm no.

Don't care. I enjoyed it.

Lots of ppl who had played liked it too.

Ah my mistake.

By that logic pewdiepie is the best youtuber and CoD is the best FPS series ever. Just cause someone or something has a shit load of subscribers and sells a shitload doesn't mean they are amazing.

So you only trust reviews when you agree with them? You are one open minded individual. How do you operate in the real world with this way of thinking?

You asked, "Who cares about his reviews?"

Apparently enough people do. In fact, ONE MILLION people care enough to subscribe and watch all if not most of what he puts up.

I didn't say it makes him amazing. It shows that ONE MILLION people care. Okay, you don't, but plenty more actually do.

Actually I don't use reviews to decide whether or not I purchase a game, cause you know some people like tomatoes and some do not, you might want to form your own opinion on shit and not go by some guy on the internet, but if that's your thing good luck in life scrub.

Nice insult. Shows good manners on your part.

I watch reviews for entertainment purposes. Apparently you take gaming WAY too seriously. Got anymore insults for me? I could use a few more.

Most of those 5 years went into developing the engine. We'll probably get the sequel in between 2-3 years now that they have the engine finished. RAD said they'll be focusing more on the gameplay and encounter design this time around since they don't have to worry about the engine.

A lot of the design choices made in the game are flat out bad so hopefully they can get it right this time.

Or he's genuine about everything he says, since a lot of these complaints are handled with a degree of consistency across all the games he reviews. And some of you honestly can't handle someone had a different opinion from the rest of you.

I can see that. They went from a portable game company to a console game company. That must have exhausted a lot of time, money, and resources in order to make that transition. The Order looks and feels like a game made for the Vita. They need to evolve the way they think about games if not maybe the indie scene is better suited for their ideas.

@Bread_or_Decide: That's exactly what Angry Joe fans do!

Joe parrots what the community is saying (which is based on anything except playing the games) So in a way Joe just has gamers agreeing with themselves.

That's the difference between doing video reviews vs a written one. He's allowed to work with more time at his disposal.

LMAO, cows in full damage control mode here.

Oh noes you caught me, I take gaming waaaaay too seriously...oh wait I don't cause I actually play games than rather bitching and moaning about them on forums.

Also I show manners to people I respect, and you sir don't have my respect.

And yet here you are on a gaming forum...bitching and moaning.

@Bread_or_Decide: Yes about Angry Joe, wait is there a Angry Joe game?

Oh wait

In his MGSV Ground Zeroes review, he called out those who damage controlled the game's length (as did ProJared) so I wouldn't say that's true.

Really didn't expect this game failing to create such a massive meltdown on the internet.

and LMAO @ the cows trying to bash angryjoe. You can hate on his humor,but the guy is a very good reviewer. Also trying to bash him calling him an xbox fanboy is complete BS when he gave TLOU a 10/10

accept the game isn't as good as it could be

Or maybe he just plays the game and then gives his opinion. I disagree with his views on Bioshock Infinite and the Last of Us. Doesn't mean I don't find his reviews fun to watch.

@Gue1 said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

My response that I posted in his video:

I totally agree.

A question though, a 4/10 is slightly below average? Huh, always been under the impression that anything below a 5 (out of ten) is a bad video game that verges on being broken.

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The game is vapid. A stinking pile of bleh

Well said dude. I use my own 1-10 scale that pretty much is like the 80s/90s one above.