AMD's Gaming GPU R9 290X Wins World Most Powerful Chip Award

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#1 Edited by Xtasy26 (4251 posts) -

FULLHD1080P.com awarded AMD with the World's Most Powerful Computer Chip Award for 2013.

http://1080ponly.wix.com/fullhd1080p#!world-most-powerful-chip-2013/c75

Hopefully, they will make profit's ALL throughout 2014 and not just the second half of the year like they did last year.

Now, put more R9 290's on the market AMD! They are still ridiculously expensive!

#2 Edited by MdBrOtha04 (1822 posts) -

AMD fan site :D

It wins this "award" using more power, more noise and generating more heat than pretty much every other single gpu card out there.

But hey if you need a space heater, I guess its good

#3 Posted by millerlight89 (18464 posts) -

780ti >> AMD 290

#4 Edited by CrownKingArthur (4650 posts) -

that's quite interesting because it's not literally the most powerful is it? 780ti is the best, right?

or perhaps I should act like a n00b and profess the titan is the best. Derpasaurus Derp.

#5 Posted by Gaming-Planet (14021 posts) -

that's quite interesting because it's not literally the most powerful is it? 780ti is the best, right?

or perhaps I should act like a n00b and profess the titan is the best. Derpasaurus Derp.

Titan is the best in terms of scaling because of its frame buffer. R9 290X is pretty dope with the aftermaket coolers and if it was still at $500, it would make the GTX 780 Ti look like a bad investment for a few frames.

#6 Edited by lostrib (35817 posts) -

Damn crypto miners

#7 Posted by Gargus (2147 posts) -

Yeah and in a decade it will be fully taken advantage of and adopted by most game engines.

#8 Posted by Xtasy26 (4251 posts) -

AMD fan site :D

It wins this "award" using more power, more noise and generating more heat than pretty much every other single gpu card out there.

But hey if you need a space heater, I guess its good

How is it a "fan site"? They just proved that it's more powerful that intel's or nVidia's most powerful chip. That's based on facts. That would be like me saying that the NBA are just "fans" of the Miami Heat that's why they allowed them to win the NBA Championship despite the fact that they beat the competition based on skill alone.

As for your noise and heat argument well that will easily be remedy by after-market coolers which are hitting the market that drastically reduced the heat and noise based on what I have read on other sites.

Besides you would expect more heat and more power. After all, it's the world's most powerful computer chip. ;)

Just like a Bugatti would generate more noise and eat more gas because it's one of the "fastest" (if not the fastest) car in the World that one can buy. :D

#9 Posted by Grey_Eyed_Elf (3770 posts) -

LOL...

The GTX 780 Ti is the king... Kills the Titan at half the price and takes a R9 290X to be water cooled and overclocked to even match it when overclocked on a stock cooler.

Also G-SYNC > Mantle!

Deal with it people its the truth, I would much rather have screen tearing fixed than have "POTENTIAL" performance boosts.

#10 Edited by ronvalencia (15110 posts) -
#11 Edited by ronvalencia (15110 posts) -

LOL...

The GTX 780 Ti is the king... Kills the Titan at half the price and takes a R9 290X to be water cooled and overclocked to even match it when overclocked on a stock cooler.

Also G-SYNC > Mantle!

Deal with it people its the truth, I would much rather have screen tearing fixed than have "POTENTIAL" performance boosts.

LOL... Against G-Sync, AMD has FreeSync. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7641/amd-demonstrates-freesync-free-gsync-alternative-at-ces-2014

As for "water cooled and overclocked" requirement for R9-290X...

From http://www.legitreviews.com/asus-r9-290x-directcu-ii-sapphire-r9-290x-tri-x-video-card-reviews_132158/6

  • It depends on games.
  • Water cooling is not requirement for overclocking a factory non-reference R9-290X.
#12 Posted by Grey_Eyed_Elf (3770 posts) -

@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

LOL...

The GTX 780 Ti is the king... Kills the Titan at half the price and takes a R9 290X to be water cooled and overclocked to even match it when overclocked on a stock cooler.

Also G-SYNC > Mantle!

Deal with it people its the truth, I would much rather have screen tearing fixed than have "POTENTIAL" performance boosts.

LOL... Against G-Sync, AMD has FreeSync. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7641/amd-demonstrates-freesync-free-gsync-alternative-at-ces-2014

As for "water cooled and overclocked" requirement for R9-290X...

From http://www.legitreviews.com/asus-r9-290x-directcu-ii-sapphire-r9-290x-tri-x-video-card-reviews_132158/6

  • It depends on games.
  • Water cooling is not requirement for overclocking a factory non-reference R9-290X.

A after market 290X is still beaten in the high majorty of games by a stock 780Ti.

Here you go from your own preferred site:

Notice how a AFTERMARKET 290X is on PAR or WORSE THAN A STOCK 780Ti.

After market 780Ti compared to a stock 290X.

Good job in pick the ONE game where a AFTERMARKET 290X is a better than a STOCK 780Ti.

As for FreeSync good its basically G-SYNC. I am no fan boy who ever can implement said technology first has my money. What doesn't have my vote is product that's inferior in term of performance money is not a issue... Its a £450 GPU with a loud stock cooler and even with a after market cooler can just about compete with a stock flagship GPU from the other side.

If you wan't the best single GPU the 290X is not the card you would be gunning for simple as that. I can get my STOCK GTX 780 Ti to 1.1GHz it destroys a aftermarket 290X.

Lets put into a analogy... a 290X(after market) has to run to keep up with a 780Ti thats walking(stock) benchmarks even your own prove that.

#13 Edited by ronvalencia (15110 posts) -

@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

@ronvalencia said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

LOL...

The GTX 780 Ti is the king... Kills the Titan at half the price and takes a R9 290X to be water cooled and overclocked to even match it when overclocked on a stock cooler.

Also G-SYNC > Mantle!

Deal with it people its the truth, I would much rather have screen tearing fixed than have "POTENTIAL" performance boosts.

LOL... Against G-Sync, AMD has FreeSync. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7641/amd-demonstrates-freesync-free-gsync-alternative-at-ces-2014

As for "water cooled and overclocked" requirement for R9-290X...

From http://www.legitreviews.com/asus-r9-290x-directcu-ii-sapphire-r9-290x-tri-x-video-card-reviews_132158/6

  • It depends on games.
  • Water cooling is not requirement for overclocking a factory non-reference R9-290X.

A after market 290X is still beaten in the high majorty of games by a stock 780Ti.

Here you go from your own preferred site:

Notice how a AFTERMARKET 290X is on PAR or WORSE THAN A STOCK 780Ti.

After market 780Ti compared to a stock 290X.

Good job in pick the ONE game where a AFTERMARKET 290X is a better than a STOCK 780Ti.

As for FreeSync good its basically G-SYNC. I am no fan boy who ever can implement said technology first has my money. What doesn't have my vote is product that's inferior in term of performance money is not a issue... Its a £450 GPU with a loud stock cooler and even with a after market cooler can just about compete with a stock flagship GPU from the other side.

If you wan't the best single GPU the 290X is not the card you would be gunning for simple as that. I can get my STOCK GTX 780 Ti to 1.1GHz it destroys a aftermarket 290X.

Lets put into a analogy... a 290X(after market) has to run to keep up with a 780Ti thats walking(stock) benchmarks even your own prove that.

No, my post was addressing water cooling requirement for R9-290X overclocking.

Your argument between 290X with aftermarket cooling or factory cooling vs stock 780 Ti doesn't address the price difference.

AMD could have included 7990's stock cooling solution which is similar to Sapphire R9-290X Tri-X's factory cooling solution and targeted 780 Ti's price.

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In USA($) http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=153,146&sort=a7

290X = $602.98

780 Ti (876MHz) = $679.99

$77.01 difference which can be allocated for R9-290X's aftermarket cooling.

In UK http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=153,146&sort=a6

290X = £399.95 (not quite £450)

780 Ti (876MHz) = £523.5

£123.55 difference which can be allocated for R9-290X's aftermarket cooling.

From http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/07/nvidia-gtx-780-ti-3gb-review/5

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PS; I have a 3 monitor setup hence my 5760x1080p focus.

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From http://techreport.com/review/25611/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-ti-graphics-card-reviewed/5

Since frame spikes can skew the average frame rates, let look at 99th percentile frame time (lower is better)

#14 Posted by clyde46 (45984 posts) -
#15 Posted by Heil68 (43951 posts) -

AMD is better then? Interesting.

#16 Posted by brut_fruit (98 posts) -

well deserved victory for amd

nvidia sucks and their cards are overpriced

#17 Posted by 560ti (154 posts) -

that's quite interesting because it's not literally the most powerful is it? 780ti is the best, right?

or perhaps I should act like a n00b and profess the titan is the best. Derpasaurus Derp.

The 780ti at 1006mhz beats the 290x at 1000mhz by about 15% and matches a stock GTX 690

The 780ti is for sure the faster card

#18 Posted by Mozelleple112 (6658 posts) -
#19 Edited by mastershake575 (8354 posts) -

@brut_fruit said:

well deserved victory for amd

nvidia sucks and their cards are overpriced

780ti is faster (plus this isn't a real site, just a blog) so sure, big victory for AMD ?

I'm an AMD card owner and this statement still makes no sense. Most of the overpriced cards have been in the enthusiast bracket and do you know why they have looked overpriced ? Because AMD has had pretty no NO ANSWER to the enthusiast bracket for the entire 28nm generation........ (there biggest claim of fame for most of the generation was a 7990 with broken drivers).

When first gen 28nm AMD cards came out, they where beyond overpriced (7970 was $550-600, 7950 was $450, 7870 was over $300). The 680 was $50 cheaper than the 7970 while offering better performance, the 670 was $50 cheaper than the 7950 while freaking offering 7970 level performance (that's embarrassing on AMD's part) and the 660ti was pretty much equal to a 7950 while being $150 cheaper.

AMD lowered prices to offer a little better offer than NVidia and then NVidia focused on taking the $100-200 market (GTX 660 price drops/650ti boost offered a better value than the 7850/7870). Then then released the GTX 770 for $400 (later dropped to $330) and then offered a GTX 760 SC for $250 that offered stock 7970 performance for $50 less than a 7950 at the time......

AMD countered with a 7950/7970 price drop but stock went out quickly. They released the 200 series but quickly had stock issues (even before the coin boom) and stock fans where very controversial (its been two months and they still haven't allowed third party coolers on most manufactures). The 280x/290/290x are all inflated currently by $100-150 thanks to the stock issues/coin (and still no third party coolers).

The only recent card they have in stock is the R9 270x which is an embarrassment of a card. They took a card that retailed for $150-170 for most of 2013 (7870ghz) and re-badged it while charging $200-220....... (WTF is that crap ? I have NEVER seen a re-badge that's more expensive than the freaking card is re-badging, that the definition of an embarrassment ).

My point is both companies trade off on the value department. Most people get a bad idea about NVidia's prices due to the enthusiast market which is a very niche area + the main reason prices where high was due to AMD not having an answer to the 7970 for almost two freaking years (the moment the 290 came out, 780 prices dropped $150 which makes sense because there was NO competition).

AMD as a whole has slightly better value (no currently but over the last few years) but its not by a ton (As I have shown you).

When you think about it and look at facts, Nvidia as a whole isn't half as bad as people make it out to be (and once again, this is coming from an AMD card owner)

#20 Edited by brut_fruit (98 posts) -
#21 Edited by mastershake575 (8354 posts) -

@brut_fruit said:

TL;DR

It was a little long (maybe took a whole minute to read !) but your a big boy, I think you can handle it.......(or not since you have no idea what your talking about and have no rebuttal).

Guess facts/knowledge are too hard to grasp ("buh buh what do you mean im clueless" ! "buh buh to much text/facts !" )

What's funny is that you could of read/came up with argument in the same amount of time it took you to realize it was a long post, find that gif, and then post it (so you actually went out of your way to show ignorance.......). Gotta love the future youth of this world !

#22 Edited by ronvalencia (15110 posts) -

@mastershake575:

20 nm????? both Keplers and GCNs are in 28 nm.

7970's MRRP was $549 which is the same as R9-290X's $549 MRRP.

780 Ti's MRRP was $699.

Titan was released on Feb 2013 and R290x was released on Sep 2013 , which is far from 2 years.

#23 Posted by ronvalencia (15110 posts) -

@560ti said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

that's quite interesting because it's not literally the most powerful is it? 780ti is the best, right?

or perhaps I should act like a n00b and profess the titan is the best. Derpasaurus Derp.

The 780ti at 1006mhz beats the 290x at 1000mhz by about 15% and matches a stock GTX 690

The 780ti is for sure the faster card

it depends on the program and settings.

Anyway, 780 ti is slow on atl-coin type workloads and atl-coin mining helps AMD to sell more GPUs.

#24 Edited by challenger_155 (47 posts) -

Console gamers get butthurt looking at threads like this, because it reminds them how far behind the inferior race is to the master race.

#25 Edited by MdBrOtha04 (1822 posts) -

@Xtasy26:

Every post except 1 on there is about how great AMD is :|

At every resolution the gtx 780Ti is on average faster than the 290x.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Ti_Gaming/23.html

They used 15 games to come up with this assessment not some cherry picked games

Your favorite GPU is inefficient. Aftermarket coolers are nice but the same coolers have been placed on the 780Ti, 780 and they are still overclockable.

That same site has an overclock 780 ti faster than the 7990 and 690 at each resolution except 2560 x 1600.

#26 Edited by Dreams-Visions (26569 posts) -

Obscure award from an obscure website? Sure, let's make a thread about it!

#27 Edited by FoxbatAlpha (6760 posts) -

The GTX 790 just waiting, shaking its head.

#28 Edited by mastershake575 (8354 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:

@mastershake575:

20 nm????? both Keplers and GCNs are in 28 nm.

7970's MRRP was $549 which is the same as R9-290X's $549 MRRP.

780 Ti's MRRP was $699.

Titan was released on Feb 2013 and R290x was released on Sep 2013 , which is far from 2 years.

1. Thanks for the correction (I have edited it, that was an obvious typo). Luckily the user I quoted was so ignorant on the subject that he didn't pick up on the typo

2. Isn't $550 what I wrote ? GTX 680 was cheaper while being faster and the 670 was almost identical stock vs stock while being $150 cheaper

Never mentioned 780ti in my long post

I was more referring to the super overclocked 680s and the GTX 690 which are both almost two years old (7970 couldn't match either one and by the time the 7990 came out the drivers where broken and Titan was out).

#29 Edited by mastershake575 (8354 posts) -

@MdBrOtha04 said:

Every post except 1 on there is about how great AMD is :|

At every resolution the gtx 780Ti is on average faster than the 290x.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Ti_Gaming/23.html

They used 15 games to come up with this assessment not some cherry picked games

Your favorite GPU is inefficient. Aftermarket coolers are nice but the same coolers have been placed on the 780Ti, 780 and they are still overclockable.

That same site has an overclock 780 ti faster than the 7990 and 690 at each resolution except 2560 x 1600.

Damn dude, 7990/690 performance on a single card if freaking insane ! (most models has the 780ti a few percent slower but the twin frozer model seems to be clocked high enough to equal/surpass it)

I can't wait till the $400 20nm cards offer this level of performance later this year

#30 Edited by leandrro (841 posts) -

AMD fan site :D

It wins this "award" using more power, more noise and generating more heat than pretty much every other single gpu card out there.

But hey if you need a space heater, I guess its good

performance per dollar is much better, so you can buy additional cooling and still save 200 dollars

#31 Posted by MdBrOtha04 (1822 posts) -
@leandrro said:

@MdBrOtha04 said:

AMD fan site :D

It wins this "award" using more power, more noise and generating more heat than pretty much every other single gpu card out there.

But hey if you need a space heater, I guess its good

performance per dollar is much better, so you can buy additional cooling and still save 200 dollars

Its on average 7 percent better. At MSRP. At the moment it would lose that battle by a wide margin

Performance per watt its between 10 and 20 percent less. More heat, more power wasted cost you more money.

#32 Edited by Netherscourge (16328 posts) -

The only good thing about these new, overpriced cards is that the older, more-than-powerful-enough cards will drop in price.

So, keep cranking them out AMD and Nvidia! Cause I ain't spending $700+ on a new GPU!

#33 Posted by Jebus213 (8777 posts) -
@clyde46 said:

@ronvalencia said:

@millerlight89 said:

780ti >> AMD 290

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/11/11/geforce_gtx_780_ti_vs_radeon_r9_290x_4k_gaming/

Though the AMD Radeon R9 290X now has competition at Ultra HD 4K display gaming, it isn't being "owned" by the GTX 780 Ti. The GTX 780 Ti, at $150 more, only equals the R9 290X. Both video cards are even, or on par with each other at Ultra HD 4K gaming.

This is before Mantle.

Implying Mantle will be any good.

I really hate this "cool2hate" shit people do over the internet. It's fucking stupid. Just why do it? Really....just why. If Nvidia were doing the same thing you'd give them praise.

It's hard to imagine a GPU company developing an API on their own cards will be no good.

#34 Posted by 560ti (154 posts) -

@brut_fruit said:

TL;DR

What's funny is that you could of read/came up with argument in the same amount of time it took you to realize it was a long post, find that gif, and then post it (so you actually went out of your way to show ignorance.......). Gotta love the future youth of this world !

He's just a generic troll. If you want a serious PC discussion then your better off in the PC forum

The only good thing about these new, overpriced cards is that the older, more-than-powerful-enough cards will drop in price.

So, keep cranking them out AMD and Nvidia! Cause I ain't spending $700+ on a new GPU!

Yeah that's a good point. The 20nm cards at the end of the year will have to outperform these expensive cards (290x/gtx780) while retailing for hundreds less (for example a GTX 870 should equal a $700 780ti while costing only $400)

#35 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (42716 posts) -

That's nice, but how are those AMD drivers?

#36 Posted by Jebus213 (8777 posts) -

That's nice, but how are those AMD drivers?

They work just fine for anybody who isn't an idiot.

#37 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (42716 posts) -

@Jebus213 said:
@Stevo_the_gamer said:

That's nice, but how are those AMD drivers?

They work just fine for anybody who isn't an idiot.

So, when there's driver issues... it's because the owner is an idiot?

Nice.

#38 Edited by Opus_Rea-333 (976 posts) -

always loved the Red/black Radeon Gpu !!! keep it up guys. must be hard working in a radiation filled environment and dishing out card like this. Congrats ATi/AMD.

#39 Posted by 04dcarraher (19480 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:

@mastershake575:

20 nm????? both Keplers and GCNs are in 28 nm.

7970's MRRP was $549 which is the same as R9-290X's $549 MRRP.

780 Ti's MRRP was $699.

Titan was released on Feb 2013 and R290x was released on Sep 2013 , which is far from 2 years.


I was more referring to the super overclocked 680s and the GTX 690 which are both almost two years old (7970 couldn't match either one and by the time the 7990 came out the drivers where broken and Titan was out).

Side note it took their driver revamp and ghz editions of the 7970 to even compete with he GTX 680.

#40 Posted by millerlight89 (18464 posts) -

@Jebus213 said:
@Stevo_the_gamer said:

That's nice, but how are those AMD drivers?

They work just fine for anybody who isn't an idiot.

LOL, must work terribly for you.

#41 Posted by 04dcarraher (19480 posts) -

The R290x is not the fastest gpu

@leandrro said:

@MdBrOtha04 said:

AMD fan site :D

It wins this "award" using more power, more noise and generating more heat than pretty much every other single gpu card out there.

But hey if you need a space heater, I guess its good

performance per dollar is much better, so you can buy additional cooling and still save 200 dollars

The only reason why the price to performance ratio is that way is because AMD took profit cuts on their ratio because of the fact Nvidia has cards that compete and can outperform them. Both companies do the same thing when they have a upper had on a newly release series that the other does not have an answer too. AMD pretty much rehashed the whole r200 series besides the 290's and are charging more.

People "namely AMD fanboys" are over looking the fact that the plain GTX 780 is virtually the same as the 290 and is only like 5% on average slower then stock 290x . And the 290x is more expensive then the 780 (after nvidia did a price cut to compete) and now you cant find a 290x in general under $600 and some are 700+ also.

#42 Edited by Jebus213 (8777 posts) -
@Stevo_the_gamer said:
@Jebus213 said:
@Stevo_the_gamer said:

That's nice, but how are those AMD drivers?

They work just fine for anybody who isn't an idiot.

So, when there's driver issues... it's because the owner is an idiot?

Nice.

I've been using AMD since the 4xxx series. I've barely had any problems. I think one time there was a problem with the UI. Other then that, I can't think of anything else off the top of my head.

Honestly if you're getting any problems 9 times out of 10 something is wrong with your system and it isn't stable. Or you're running Crossfire.

#43 Edited by Jebus213 (8777 posts) -
#44 Edited by brut_fruit (98 posts) -

blablabla please read my huge wall of text please!! :(

#45 Edited by Xplode_games (527 posts) -

@brut_fruit said:

well deserved victory for amd

nvidia sucks and their cards are overpriced

780ti is faster (plus this isn't a real site, just a blog) so sure, big victory for AMD ?

I'm an AMD card owner and this statement still makes no sense. Most of the overpriced cards have been in the enthusiast bracket and do you know why they have looked overpriced ? Because AMD has had pretty no NO ANSWER to the enthusiast bracket for the entire 28nm generation........ (there biggest claim of fame for most of the generation was a 7990 with broken drivers).

When first gen 28nm AMD cards came out, they where beyond overpriced (7970 was $550-600, 7950 was $450, 7870 was over $300). The 680 was $50 cheaper than the 7970 while offering better performance, the 670 was $50 cheaper than the 7950 while freaking offering 7970 level performance (that's embarrassing on AMD's part) and the 660ti was pretty much equal to a 7950 while being $150 cheaper.

AMD lowered prices to offer a little better offer than NVidia and then NVidia focused on taking the $100-200 market (GTX 660 price drops/650ti boost offered a better value than the 7850/7870). Then then released the GTX 770 for $400 (later dropped to $330) and then offered a GTX 760 SC for $250 that offered stock 7970 performance for $50 less than a 7950 at the time......

AMD countered with a 7950/7970 price drop but stock went out quickly. They released the 200 series but quickly had stock issues (even before the coin boom) and stock fans where very controversial (its been two months and they still haven't allowed third party coolers on most manufactures). The 280x/290/290x are all inflated currently by $100-150 thanks to the stock issues/coin (and still no third party coolers).

The only recent card they have in stock is the R9 270x which is an embarrassment of a card. They took a card that retailed for $150-170 for most of 2013 (7870ghz) and re-badged it while charging $200-220....... (WTF is that crap ? I have NEVER seen a re-badge that's more expensive than the freaking card is re-badging, that the definition of an embarrassment ).

My point is both companies trade off on the value department. Most people get a bad idea about NVidia's prices due to the enthusiast market which is a very niche area + the main reason prices where high was due to AMD not having an answer to the 7970 for almost two freaking years (the moment the 290 came out, 780 prices dropped $150 which makes sense because there was NO competition).

AMD as a whole has slightly better value (no currently but over the last few years) but its not by a ton (As I have shown you).

When you think about it and look at facts, Nvidia as a whole isn't half as bad as people make it out to be (and once again, this is coming from an AMD card owner)

How much can you spin? Your entire post is really really off. I'm not going to write a novel like you did but i'll make quick points.

The GTX 670 when it launched did offer better performance than the 7950 and was a great card for $400. In my opinion you would have to be an idiot to pay $500 for the GTX 680 which was only like 4% better performance at best.

However, quickly the HD 7950 dropped to $300 and was the best value at that price.

Fast forward to today. The R9 290 at $400 is the best value and card on the market today. Again, I think you have to be an idiot to buy an R9 290X for $550 which only gives maybe 5% more performance. You have to be a even bigger moron to buy a GTX 780 Ti which is damn near the same as a 290 but costs $250 more and has only 3 GB of RAM vs 4GB for the 290.

If you compare the R9 280X for $300 vs the GTX 770(2GB WTF?) for $400 then again it's a no brainer. They offer similar performance but AMD is a much better value.

The GTX 760 is a decent value at $250 but for $50 more you get a much better card in the R9 280X. As soon as AMD brings out the R9 280 to close the gap between the R7 270X and R9 280X, Nvida again will be forced to scramble and lower prices yet again.

Of course this is only when AMD meets demand and it's a given that you buy a 290 with an aftermarket cooler. But I think that's always a given. I never buy cards with stock coolers, never.

AMD is leading by far in value right now. That's a good thing because it puts pressure on Nvidia to reduce their overpriced cards. If it weren't for AMD who knows what Nvidia would be charging for cards. We know they love to overprice their products.

#46 Edited by stuff238 (618 posts) -

Console gamers get butthurt looking at threads like this, because it reminds them how far behind the inferior race is to the master race.

We don't get butthurt. We get insanely confused because none of this **** makes any damn sense. You guys have 50 charts comparing 20 different graphics cards with stupid names like GTX74857349856 HD Radeon NVidea overpriced PoS..........Yeah, I understand nothing in this thread and I will never build a PC because of it.

Enjoy your overpriced garbage and comparing prices vs 15% faster performance boosts. Only freaking nerds can remember all that crap.

#47 Posted by ronvalencia (15110 posts) -

@stuff238 said:

@challenger_155 said:

Console gamers get butthurt looking at threads like this, because it reminds them how far behind the inferior race is to the master race.

We don't get butthurt. We get insanely confused because none of this **** makes any damn sense. You guys have 50 charts comparing 20 different graphics cards with stupid names like GTX74857349856 HD Radeon NVidea overpriced PoS..........Yeah, I understand nothing in this thread and I will never build a PC because of it.

Enjoy your overpriced garbage and comparing prices vs 15% faster performance boosts. Only freaking nerds can remember all that crap.

My PCs helps me earn $$. PC's original design was for business. How could my Radeon HD R9 290 be an overprice PoS?

Gaming on my PC is just a bonus.

#48 Posted by mastershake575 (8354 posts) -

@mastershake575 said:

blablabla please read my huge wall of text please!! :(

Trolls are cute (im not going to read your post but im going to spend 5 minutes look up/posting a gif instead ! that will really show him !).

#49 Posted by dxmcat (1127 posts) -

sorry, but only card I've ever had hardware fail on me was an ATI (AMD)

no thanks. I have no tolerance for that sort of crap.

#50 Posted by ronvalencia (15110 posts) -

@mastershake575 said:

@ronvalencia said:

@mastershake575:

20 nm????? both Keplers and GCNs are in 28 nm.

7970's MRRP was $549 which is the same as R9-290X's $549 MRRP.

780 Ti's MRRP was $699.

Titan was released on Feb 2013 and R290x was released on Sep 2013 , which is far from 2 years.


I was more referring to the super overclocked 680s and the GTX 690 which are both almost two years old (7970 couldn't match either one and by the time the 7990 came out the drivers where broken and Titan was out).

Side note it took their driver revamp and ghz editions of the 7970 to even compete with he GTX 680.

Side note... Why restrict AMD from releasing another SKU after the competitor releases their products?

My original 7950 can be re-flashed (official BIOS update) into 7950 BE (850 Mhz baseclock with 925 Mhz turbo), but it would be slower than the original firmware's 900 Mhz baseclock.