Almost a year up.... yet no killer app???

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#1  Edited By Serioussamik
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Yeah from Microsoft and Sony. Now by killer apps I mean any new IP or further release of existing 1st party ones.

So Infamous Second son and Killzone:SF from Sony. Ryse and nothing more that warrants a mention from MS.

Is this the slowest run-up to killer apps we ever witnessed?

And meanwhile WiiU's releases continue to impress...

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#2  Edited By REKThard
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MS : FH2 and MCC
SONY : nothing
NINTENDO : Smash Bros. Bayonetta 2 and so on

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@Serioussamik said:

Yeah from Microsoft and Sony. Now by killer apps I mean any new IP or further release of existing 1st party ones.

So Infamous Second son and Killzone:SF from Sony. Ryse and nothing more that warrants a mention from MS.

Is this the slowest run-up to killer apps we ever witnessed?

And meanwhile WiiU's releases continues to impress...

star citizen will be bestest new ip. rest are causal console games.

@rekthard said:

MS : MCC

it has been done before. just a remaster of mediocre game, Cutie pie

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@--loljrpg said:

it has been done before. just a remaster of mediocre game, Cutie pie

stop creating these alts

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#5  Edited By yanni1
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How is killzone SF a "killer" app? It's more generic than cod. Neither is ryse in fairness.

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#6  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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If you don't care about the existing series, not really.

@rekthard said:

MS : FH2 and MCC

Last gen games? Lel.

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#7 OhSnapitz
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A "killer app".. probably not. But good software.. yes!

The only problem I see is that last gen was too long and countless sequels (ie milking) killed off excitement for existing IPs. Things will vet better next year.. there are a ton of potentially great killer apps coming out.

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@--loljrpg said:

@Serioussamik said:

Yeah from Microsoft and Sony. Now by killer apps I mean any new IP or further release of existing 1st party ones.

So Infamous Second son and Killzone:SF from Sony. Ryse and nothing more that warrants a mention from MS.

Is this the slowest run-up to killer apps we ever witnessed?

And meanwhile WiiU's releases continues to impress...

star citizen will be bestest new ip. rest are causal console games.

I didn't know Star Citizen is on consoles, thank you for your insightful comment.

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I didn't know Star Citizen is on consoles, thank you for your insightful comment.

of course you don't know,sniper is intellectual manly man with big muscles.

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#10  Edited By RR360DD
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So Ryse warranted a mention and you expect us to take your thread seriously? LOL

What's with all these wii u threads? Have we forgotten already how terrible it was for the wii u one year in?

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#11  Edited By SecretPolice
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Getting the feeling Sunset Overdrive may deliver in a big way. We shall see.

MCC though a collection of older games may be a killer app as odd as that may sound. Can't wait till they unveil the new Gears, that could do it as well.

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#12 hehe101
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

If you don't care about the existing series, not really.

@rekthard said:

MS : FH2 and MCC

Last gen games? Lel.

tell that to last of us remaster

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@hehe101 said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

If you don't care about the existing series, not really.

@rekthard said:

MS : FH2 and MCC

Last gen games? Lel.

tell that to last of us remaster

Yes. And?

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#14 HadOne2Many
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Well for me there are two killer apps on the XB1, Forza Motorsport 5 and Forza Horizon 2. True enough FM5 got off to a rocky start, but they really turned it around with some additional content and policy changes. I'm a special case though since racing games are system sellers for me.

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#15  Edited By GhoX
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Divinity: Original Sin massacres most other games this year. It will most likely win this year's GOTY.

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#16 Serioussamik
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So Ryse warranted a mention and you expect us to take your thread seriously? LOL

What's with all these wii u threads? Have we forgotten already how terrible it was for the wii u one year in?

Agree that these games are nothing special. I mentioned them cuz there's nothing else is in the horizon that can be called a killer app.

We have not yet seen a game that can be marked a console seller for either parties. And it's been an year almost.

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#17  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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Yup neither of those have a killer app yet. I would argue the WiiU has two atm (SM 3D world, Bayonetta 2) but its crippled by a steep price for its weak hardware and the lack of 3rd party support. If Nintendo released a $200 WiiU with the pro-controler instead of the gamepad I'm sure it would sell buckets. Hell, I'm not even a Nintendo fan and I would probably buy one just to play Bayonetta 2

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@rekthard said:

MS : FH2 and MCC

SONY : nothing

NINTENDO : Smash Bros. Bayonetta 2 and so on

FH2 is on X360 and if MCC counts then so does TLOU remastered

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#19  Edited By deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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Already regretting getting a PS4 before an X1 since most of my console-friends have X1s... sigh.

Spelunky time!

I suppose there is bloodborne..... if that flops i would friggin trash the pointless device... n get a new graphics card or X1.

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#20 enzyme36
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I agree with TC... I can understand last holiday. But now a full holiday later and there has been no must have game for either XB or PS. It is quite a shame... and very different from previous console launches.

Its the gen of buying hardware and software is an afterthought. Thank God for Nintendo or the end of the year would be pretty leery.

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@Vatusus said:
@rekthard said:

MS : FH2 and MCC

SONY : nothing

NINTENDO : Smash Bros. Bayonetta 2 and so on

FH2 is on X360 and if MCC counts then so does TLOU remastered

I know that FH2 is on 360 but isn't the XONE version the definitive one?
for me TLOU R is not really a killer app since it's only one game and graphics hasn't really improved(it's only 1 year old and they already made a remaster?)

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#22 locopatho
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Yeah the Forza games are pretty much it at this point. It's been a slow start. I don't own either a PS4 or XONE yet.

Titanfall is a killer app (at least for me) but it's 3rd party so wouldn't fit your criteria.

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#23  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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@rekthard said:

MS : FH2 and MCC

SONY : nothing

NINTENDO : Smash Bros. Bayonetta 2 and so on

yeah that Master Chief Collection is pretty much it for Microsoft. Sony's PS4 sold on Pure Hype alone.

@Vatusus

HEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLL NO. The Last of Us "Remaster" is nothing more than a delayed release of the PS4 version of the game. Master Chief Collection is well more deserving of the "Remaster" title than The Last of Us because it has not just 1 remastered title, but 2, one of which hasn't been around for nearly a decade (Halo 2).

That's not to say The Last of Us isn't something to consider getting (because it is well worth the time to play) it's not worth owning a PS4 over, while a Remaster of Halo 2 kinda is.

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@rekthard said:

@Vatusus said:
@rekthard said:

MS : FH2 and MCC

SONY : nothing

NINTENDO : Smash Bros. Bayonetta 2 and so on

FH2 is on X360 and if MCC counts then so does TLOU remastered

I know that FH2 is on 360 but isn't the XONE version the definitive one?

for me TLOU R is not really a killer app since it's only one game and graphics hasn't really improved(it's only 1 year old and they already made a remaster?)

Definitive? Why? Because it has better graphics? I doubt many would buy an X1 for FH2 when they can have pretty much the same experience on the X360 and thats what "killer app" means i.e. a game that alone makes us buy a console. Oh, and Forza has never been a killer app. Sure it sells well but hardly is an IP that sells consoles. FH2 is NOT a killer app for the X1

And I dont think this thread is asking what is YOUR killer app btw

TLOU R sold 2 million thus far on PS4 and helped push a lot of PS4 consoles thus IS a killer app. Dont fool yourself

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#25  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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Well, if it wasn't delayed, The Order 1886 would be releasing this holyday...........................................hahahaha

Next year will be better. Halo, Uncharted, Scalebound and Bloodborne

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@LegatoSkyheart said:

Sony's PS4 sold on Pure Hype alone.

Multiplats too dude. In System Wars they "don't count" and we all have multiple systems to play them, PC and so forth. But all my more casual/mainstream gamer friends are pretty delighted with the next gen games they are getting on PS4. My roommate is jizzing himself over Shadow Of Mordor for example.

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@Vatusus: racing games do sell sytems. They aren't popular here on Gamespot, but there are plenty of communities out there that prove you wrong. GTPlanet.net for example. When people are spending thousands on cockpits, wheels, shifters, pedals, button boxes, etc. buying a new console to play a new game is not really a problem.

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@HadOne2Many said:

@Vatusus: racing games do sell sytems. They aren't popular here on Gamespot, but there are plenty of communities out there that prove you wrong. GTPlanet.net for example. When people are spending thousands on cockpits, wheels, shifters, pedals, button boxes, etc. buying a new console to play a new game is not really a problem.

Yup, the GT series is I think the best selling franchise on PS so ya know, just sayin.

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#29  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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@LegatoSkyheart said:

@rekthard said:

MS : FH2 and MCC

SONY : nothing

NINTENDO : Smash Bros. Bayonetta 2 and so on

yeah that Master Chief Collection is pretty much it for Microsoft. Sony's PS4 sold on Pure Hype alone.

@Vatusus

HEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLL NO. The Last of Us "Remaster" is nothing more than a delayed release of the PS4 version of the game. Master Chief Collection is well more deserving of the "Remaster" title than The Last of Us because it has not just 1 remastered title, but 2, one of which hasn't been around for nearly a decade (Halo 2).

That's not to say The Last of Us isn't something to consider getting (because it is well worth the time to play) it's not worth owning a PS4 over, while a Remaster of Halo 2 kinda is.

That's not a remaster, that's a remake.

The rest are "remasters" (or ports if you want).

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#30 Bruin1986
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Not really surprising...like the beginning of most gens, a majority of games are cross-gen because the install base on next gen consoles isn't large enough yet to justify AAA budget blockbusters.

Now, if you would be willing to put "your money where your mouth is" and directly crowd-fund AAA titles for next gen only, then I'm sure some developer would be more than happy to oblige.

But why do I feel that wouldn't happen?

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#31 Crypt_mx
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Sunset Overdrive and MCC are the reasons to own an X1 this holiday as far as I'm concerned. If neither of those interest you then you'll have to look to 2015 for a killer app on either console.

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I'm buried in games and have more games than I can possibly play.

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How can WiiU impress you if you only want to count "new ip´s" from 1st party...all Nintendo got is Mario games...Mario is not new at all. WiiU got nothing then...

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Each system has tons of games................. Sony just doesn't have any good ones.

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#35 Doozie78
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PC has Divinity Original Sin, this is the 'Killer App' of the year for damn sure!

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#36  Edited By speedfreak48t5p
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Forza Horizon 2 is the only killer app either console has at the moment. LOL Flopclub.

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i think I ate a killer app last night. My stomach is very upset with me. oh you mean games......

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#38  Edited By I_Return
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@rekthard said:

@--loljrpg said:

it has been done before. just a remaster of mediocre game, Cutie pie

stop creating these alts

Don't steal his birth right. Plus, he's entertaining.

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@Vatusus said:
@rekthard said:

MS : FH2 and MCC

SONY : nothing

NINTENDO : Smash Bros. Bayonetta 2 and so on

FH2 is on X360 and if MCC counts then so does TLOU remastered

Yeah theres a bit of a difference between the MCC and TLOU. Really can't be bothered arguing over it, and if neither count then whatever.

But in reality outside SW, MCC has far greater potential to be a system seller than TLOU remastered ever had. It was almost like Sony decided to just release a GOTY version of TLOU, but put it on the PS4 instead. MCC is a whole different kettle of fish.

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#40 Boddicker
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Can we please stop mentioning PC exclusives.

You all look like idiots declaring Star Citizen and DOS the "killer app" when this is obviously meant to be a console only discussion.

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#41  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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This is the norm. Never pays to be an early adopter.

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#42  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@aroxx_ab said:

How can WiiU impress you if you only want to count "new ip´s" from 1st party...all Nintendo got is Mario games...Mario is not new at all. WiiU got nothing then...

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

@aroxx_ab said:

How can WiiU impress you if you only want to count "new ip´s" from 1st party...all Nintendo got is Mario games...Mario is not new at all. WiiU got nothing then...

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

And I completely agree with you about being an early adopter.

I'm still having fun with my PS3 and will be having even more fun when BL: The Pre-Sequel drops in less than a week. I plan on buying a PS4 as soon as Sony announces their 1 TB PS4 sku for the holidays.

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#44  Edited By mems_1224
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Master Chief Collection is coming and besides that MS has a solid lineup this year with Sunset Overdrive and Horizon 2.

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Haven't you heard? 2014 is the year of AAA flops.

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@RR360DD said:

@Vatusus said:
@rekthard said:

MS : FH2 and MCC

SONY : nothing

NINTENDO : Smash Bros. Bayonetta 2 and so on

FH2 is on X360 and if MCC counts then so does TLOU remastered

Yeah theres a bit of a difference between the MCC and TLOU. Really can't be bothered arguing over it, and if neither count then whatever.

But in reality outside SW, MCC has far greater potential to be a system seller than TLOU remastered ever had. It was almost like Sony decided to just release a GOTY version of TLOU, but put it on the PS4 instead. MCC is a whole different kettle of fish.

You're right. TLOU is still a new, fresh game. Who wants to play a 10 year old ala Halo?

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@speedfreak48t5p said:

Forza Horizon 2 is the only killer app either console has at the moment. LOL Flopclub.

Racing games are a little too niche a genre to be a killer app.

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Forza 5, dead rising, rise, titanfall, forza horizon 2, sunset overdrive, halo mcc, dance central, fantasia, yada yada.

All good reasons to own the X1 to me

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@Kjranu said:

@RR360DD said:

@Vatusus said:
@rekthard said:

MS : FH2 and MCC

SONY : nothing

NINTENDO : Smash Bros. Bayonetta 2 and so on

FH2 is on X360 and if MCC counts then so does TLOU remastered

Yeah theres a bit of a difference between the MCC and TLOU. Really can't be bothered arguing over it, and if neither count then whatever.

But in reality outside SW, MCC has far greater potential to be a system seller than TLOU remastered ever had. It was almost like Sony decided to just release a GOTY version of TLOU, but put it on the PS4 instead. MCC is a whole different kettle of fish.

You're right. TLOU is still a new, fresh game. Who wants to play a 10 year old ala Halo?

Yeah, who wants to play one of the best games ever made (along with its 3 sequels). Hmmm, guess all those pre-orders are imaginary.

Difference is MS is putting a lot of effort in to the MCC.

TLOU was just a lazy re-release, there isn't that big a difference in the graphics and it offers nothing new over the PS3 version.

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#50  Edited By Cubs360
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@Serioussamik: im happy with my xbox one. Its had multiple great games come to it that you cant play on a sony console, plus 1st dibs on others. In a few weeks we'll all be playing sunset overdrive and halo too.