A comparasion of PC and PS3 version of COD4.PC FAIL!

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#51 Tech_Guy_2
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[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]That's just your opinion that normal PC monitors are good at scaling.I cannot stand the blury mess of scaling on a cheap LCD.G013M

Then just get your GPU to scale it then if you aren't happy with the LCD scaling :?.

Oh really.Tell me how do i do that?Aparantly PC wizard 2008 says that my 8800GTX does not have scaling as a feature?
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#52 G013M
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Oh really.Tell me how do i do that?Aparantly PC wizard 2008 says that my 8800GTX does not have scaling as a feature?Tech_Guy_2

Go to Nvidia Control Panel - Change Flat Panel Scaling - Use Nvidia Scaling with Fixed-Aspect Ratio.

And now you're using your GPU to scale.

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#53 sadikovic
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[QUOTE="sadikovic"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="G013M"]

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]What happens when i connect it to a monitor.What you are saying means that if you want to future proof your PC than you have to play on some expensive HDTV or some bulky CRT that will kill your eyes.Tech_Guy_2

Well actually any LCD or Plasma TV should have some form of scaling inside. LCD Computer monitors having scaling chips inside, and the only place that you're really going to tell that it's been scaled is in small font text that computers use.

In game the difference is far less. Besides, GPU's can scale as well :?

That's just your opinion that normal PC monitors are good at scaling.I cannot stand the blury mess of scaling on a cheap LCD.

A cheap HDTV costs as much as a very very good monitor... whats the problem here?

A cheap HDTV is as good as a very very good monitor.Your point?

Besides i can hook up the ps3 to some cheap LCD cuz it has beter scaling.

My point being that your comparison fails because you used a cheap HDTV with a PC with a mediocre GPU and expected results... if you had spent that money on a monitor you would have gotten a better result for your bias comparison but that would have backfired since the PS3 version would look like the ugly duckling.

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#54 Ninja-Vox
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

What happens when i connect it to a monitor.What you are saying means that if you want to future proof your PC than you have to play on some expensive HDTV or some bulky CRT that will kill your eyes.Tech_Guy_2

So now you're saying PC fails because you hooked it up to a cheap HDTV? :| Do you not see the flaws in this arguement?

But the ps3 still managed to put out better graphics on the cheap HDTV so who wins?:|

I am not saying that this applies to everyone and all that but this is a big flaw with PC gaming and surely not everybody may get affected by this.

It's not a big flaw, because you shouldn't hook up your PC to a cheap HDTV when you know your PC has no scaling capabilities built in. Mine does, so i'm fine thanks. :|

Do PC gaming isn't flawed. Your PC is flawed because you are choosing to connect it to a cheap TV as opposed to a decent monitor, despite the fact that you know full well that it lacks the hardware to scale up to the appropriate resolution.

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#55 skrat_01
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No you have to play in "windowed" mode if you are not going to play in the native res.Upscaling reduces the image quality significantly to the point that you may not game at all.Whereas upscaling with consoles is pretty good.

If you deny this then well you dont know what you are saying.

Tech_Guy_2

No you dont have to play in 'windowed' mode. I have a 32" LCD TV hooked up to my PC and know first hand. What are you talking about upscaling? The TV upscales the computer image, its not in 'windowed mode. All monitors / screens have some form of scaling, as do GPUs....

ITs obvious you dont have a clue what you are talking about.

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#56 Tech_Guy_2
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[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]Oh really.Tell me how do i do that?Aparantly PC wizard 2008 says that my 8800GTX does not have scaling as a feature?G013M

Go to Nvidia Control Panel - Change Flat Panel Scaling - Use Nvidia Scaling with Fixed-Aspect Ratio.

And now you're using your GPU to scale.

There is no such option.There is this stereo diaply mode with vertical interlace monitor and colour interleaved monitor as the options.Are you refering to this?
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#57 Ninja-Vox
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The ps3 was developed with gaming in mind.The PC was not as is clearly evident by the lack of essential features.So PC lose.Tech_Guy_2

What on earth do you mean "PC was developed..." Again, this is a flaw with YOUR PC. Not Pcs everywhere. Not even PCs in general. Just yours. Hook it up to a decent monitor and you're fine. Hook it up to a decent HDTV and you're fine. Buy a tv one step box and you're fine. But do none of those things and then hook it up to a cheap HDTV to make matters worse, and how can you possibly be shocked that the resolution isn't as great as something designed to run on a variety of HDTVs?

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#58 Tech_Guy_2
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Wait are you talking about playing in windowed mode are you?
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#59 sadikovic
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[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]Oh really.Tell me how do i do that?Aparantly PC wizard 2008 says that my 8800GTX does not have scaling as a feature?G013M

Go to Nvidia Control Panel - Change Flat Panel Scaling - Use Nvidia Scaling with Fixed-Aspect Ratio.

And now you're using your GPU to scale.

Tech_Guy_2's lack of knowledge + -100 logic makes him a prime suspect for the number one fanboy ranter.

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#60 Ninja-Vox
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[QUOTE="G013M"]

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]Oh really.Tell me how do i do that?Aparantly PC wizard 2008 says that my 8800GTX does not have scaling as a feature?sadikovic

Go to Nvidia Control Panel - Change Flat Panel Scaling - Use Nvidia Scaling with Fixed-Aspect Ratio.

And now you're using your GPU to scale.

Tech_Guy_2's lack of knowledge + -100 makes him a prime suspect for the number one fanboy ranter.

I agree. This is the worst occurane of sheer ignorance on the topic being discussed that i've seen in a while. Not to mention a flawed and biased comparison in the first place, designed to make one come out on top regardless.

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#62 Tech_Guy_2
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No you have to play in "windowed" mode if you are not going to play in the native res.Upscaling reduces the image quality significantly to the point that you may not game at all.Whereas upscaling with consoles is pretty good.

If you deny this then well you dont know what you are saying.

skrat_01

No you dont have to play in 'windowed' mode. I have a 32" LCD TV hooked up to my PC and know first hand. What are you talking about upscaling? The TV upscales the computer image, its not in 'windowed mode. All monitors / screens have some form of scaling, as do GPUs....

ITs obvious you dont have a clue what you are talking about.

In order to not lose image quality you have to play in windowed mode.:roll:
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#64 Vfanek
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After reading this thread I've lost all faith in humanity.
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#67 Ninja-Vox
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WTF are you people talking about it's not even funny anymore.I am comparing the ps3 and PC on the same level.Do you want me to compare the ps3 with an 8800.

FYI the 8600GT outperforms ALL 7 series nvidia cards in COD4 and it also performs on the same level in terms of performance to the 360 and ps3 version.Sorry but you lose.Go see gamespots COD4 guide if you dont belive me.

Tech_Guy_2

No you aren't comparing the PS3 and "the PC" on the same level. You're comparing YOUR PC'S CARD to the PS3. Not PCs in general. Not PC gaming. Just your PC. And it just so happens that your PC has a mediocre GPU, which you're hooking up to a cheap HDTV with no hardware installed to scale the image appropriately.

I wonder what the result will be?

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#68 Wartzay
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]Can we change the thread to "my PC fails in comparison to the PS3" - believe it or not there are rigs out there which are better than yours, which dont suffer from these issues.Tech_Guy_2
I have 3 8800GTX's in SLI in my main rig.LOL you are clueless.

3 in SLI? yeah right, and my girlfriend is Eva Mendes.

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#70 Tech_Guy_2
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[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]Can we change the thread to "my PC fails in comparison to the PS3" - believe it or not there are rigs out there which are better than yours, which dont suffer from these issues.Wartzay

I have 3 8800GTX's in SLI in my main rig.LOL you are clueless.

3 in SLI? yeah right, and my girlfriend is Eva Mendes.

LOL dont believe me i could care less.I have a single 8800GTX and i have ordered 2 more with a 780i mobo from newegg.They will arrive shortly.
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#71 sadikovic
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Huh the ps3 requires a HDCP complaint LCD and neither i nor any of my friends own a HDCP supported monitor.Are you ok with 360 and PC being compared on a monitor?I'll do that.

Tech_Guy_2

Go ahead... I dont care anymore.

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#72 Tech_Guy_2
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Newegg has an 8800 GTX for just $360 so i couldnt pass it up.Very sweet deal IMO.
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#73 Ninja-Vox
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Huh the ps3 requires a HDCP complaint LCD and neither i nor any of my friends own a HDCP supported monitor.Are you ok with 360 and PC being compared on a monitor?I'll do that.Tech_Guy_2

What? So it's unfair to hook a PS3 up to a monitor because it dosen't include the necessary hardware, but it's perfectly fine to hook up your PC to an HDTV despite not having any scaling hardware built in? Are you honestly trying to own yourself every time you post here? :?

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#74 Ninja-Vox
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Could you stop aimlessly hitting the quote button? You need only quote the point you're addressing. Quoting the last 15 posts just makes it difficult to scroll through the thread.

Thank you.

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#75 WARxSnake
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[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

So i took my secondary PC with an 8600GT to my friends place who has a 42" 1080p HDTV and ps3.So we first loaded the ps3 version and played the first level for some time.Then we connected the PC to the HDTV and loaded up 720p resolution cuz 1080p is too high for the card just like the ps3 with 2xAA and god it looked so bad simply terrible.

You know why?Because PC's lack a scaler chip.LMAO:lol: .So for the game to be played on that PC i would have to buy a 720p HDTV or a lower res LCD whereas with the ps3 you dont have to worry about this matter.

Hermits that is simply epic FAILURE.Sorry.:(

IgGy621985

A nerd cow.

Interesting spiecies.

People, we have to investigate this. It may not be healthy for universal balance.

hes not really a nerd when he says "PC lack a scaler chip" thats honestly the dumbest thing ive read this morning.

An HDTV is treated as an LCD under the Nvidia Drivers, so you can enable nvidia SCALING, which in turn gives you different options on how to upscale your 720p rezed game to the 1080p monitor.

this thread has been in massive FAIL since the begining.

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#76 zipozal
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This guys got to be a faker just trying to make a full of the cows.

Btw the 8800GT sold 2 million since it's release, add the additional 2 mill from ATI's 3800's and you have 4 million + people who bought a mid range card that can stomp the crap out of the PS3/360 within just a 3 month period...but but PC gamings dead!

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#77 Ninja-Vox
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Looks like he's given up and departed. :P

Well this thread gets failure of the week from me. There's still a good 12 hours before i go to bed though...

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#78 WARxSnake
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Looks like he's given up and departed. :P

Well this thread gets failure of the week from me. There's still a good 12 hours before i go to bed though...

Ninja-Vox

lol, im sure many more facepalming threads will pop up soon :D

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#79 samusarmada
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i can't be bothered to argue with this. its just tired. we all know a £150 8800gt eats any console game alive.

now who heres played audiosurf, its great :)

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such an awesome game.

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#80 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="G013M"]

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]Oh really.Tell me how do i do that?Aparantly PC wizard 2008 says that my 8800GTX does not have scaling as a feature?Tech_Guy_2

Go to Nvidia Control Panel - Change Flat Panel Scaling - Use Nvidia Scaling with Fixed-Aspect Ratio.

And now you're using your GPU to scale.

There is no such option.There is this stereo diaply mode with vertical interlace monitor and colour interleaved monitor as the options.Are you refering to this?

:lol: Dunnn dunnn Duuuuuuuuunnnnnnn Tech Guy Owned again, he clearly doesnt have a good PC:

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#82 Tech_Guy_2
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[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="G013M"]

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]Oh really.Tell me how do i do that?Aparantly PC wizard 2008 says that my 8800GTX does not have scaling as a feature?Meu2k7

Go to Nvidia Control Panel - Change Flat Panel Scaling - Use Nvidia Scaling with Fixed-Aspect Ratio.

And now you're using your GPU to scale.

There is no such option.There is this stereo diaply mode with vertical interlace monitor and colour interleaved monitor as the options.Are you refering to this?

:lol: Dunnn dunnn Duuuuuuuuunnnnnnn Tech Guy Owned again, he clearly doesnt have a good PC:

I am sitting on a CRT monitor right now.:roll:
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#83 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="G013M"]

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]Oh really.Tell me how do i do that?Aparantly PC wizard 2008 says that my 8800GTX does not have scaling as a feature?Tech_Guy_2

Go to Nvidia Control Panel - Change Flat Panel Scaling - Use Nvidia Scaling with Fixed-Aspect Ratio.

And now you're using your GPU to scale.

There is no such option.There is this stereo diaply mode with vertical interlace monitor and colour interleaved monitor as the options.Are you refering to this?

:lol: Dunnn dunnn Duuuuuuuuunnnnnnn Tech Guy Owned again, he clearly doesnt have a good PC:

I am sitting on a CRT monitor right now.:roll:

Thats daft, you might break it, I suggest using a chair.

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#84 G013M
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I am sitting on a CRT monitor right now.:roll:Tech_Guy_2

Then it won't appear becuase CRT's don't need to scale.

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#85 sadikovic
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

Looks like he's given up and departed. :P

Well this thread gets failure of the week from me. There's still a good 12 hours before i go to bed though...

Tech_Guy_2

Oh dear man get a life or atleast become a mod which way you will do something productive atleast.

Foruming is a hobby some are more extreme than others... dont judge him.

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#87 vash47
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Cows if I were you, I would look for this guy and beat the hell outta him, He's a shame for you.
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#88 Tech_Guy_2
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Cows if I were you, I would look for this guy and beat the hell outta him, He's a shame for you.vash47
Oh nooooooooooooooos.:cry:
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#89 pminooei
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Enjoy your PS3 :P

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#90 Zenkuso
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this threads a bloody riot :) how is it possible to self owned from the start and make it to 5 pages :p
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#91 naval
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

Looks like he's given up and departed. :P

Well this thread gets failure of the week from me. There's still a good 12 hours before i go to bed though...

Tech_Guy_2

Oh dear man get a life or atleast become a mod which way you will do something productive atleast.

he is correcting ignorant fanboys, which is is pretty productive, isn't it ?

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#92 naval
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[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]Can we change the thread to "my PC fails in comparison to the PS3" - believe it or not there are rigs out there which are better than yours, which dont suffer from these issues.Wartzay

I have 3 8800GTX's in SLI in my main rig.LOL you are clueless.

3 in SLI? yeah right, and my girlfriend is Eva Mendes.

lol, haa aa, this is what I felt when i read it

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#93 WARxSnake
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

Looks like he's given up and departed. :P

Well this thread gets failure of the week from me. There's still a good 12 hours before i go to bed though...

Tech_Guy_2

Oh dear man get a life or atleast become a mod which way you will do something productive atleast.

so you're aiming to get banned is what you're saying?

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#94 Tech_Guy_2
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[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

Looks like he's given up and departed. :P

Well this thread gets failure of the week from me. There's still a good 12 hours before i go to bed though...

WARxSnake

Oh dear man get a life or atleast become a mod which way you will do something productive atleast.

so you're aiming to get banned is what you're saying?

As if i give a damn about getting banned on some internet forum.:lol:
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[QUOTE="WARxSnake"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

Looks like he's given up and departed. :P

Well this thread gets failure of the week from me. There's still a good 12 hours before i go to bed though...

Tech_Guy_2

Oh dear man get a life or atleast become a mod which way you will do something productive atleast.

so you're aiming to get banned is what you're saying?

As if i give a damn about getting banned on some internet forum.:lol:

Why are you even here then? Talk about Hypocrisy ...

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#96 WARxSnake
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[QUOTE="WARxSnake"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

Looks like he's given up and departed. :P

Well this thread gets failure of the week from me. There's still a good 12 hours before i go to bed though...

Tech_Guy_2

Oh dear man get a life or atleast become a mod which way you will do something productive atleast.

so you're aiming to get banned is what you're saying?

As if i give a damn about getting banned on some internet forum.:lol:

so you're here just to troll then

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#97 DivergeUnify
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So where is the comparison?
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#98 Arsenal325
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lol at teh tc and his failure of a compootar!!!!
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#99 AirGuitarist87
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Which is sadder? A person who spends a lot of time posting productive posts on a forum, or a person who spends a lot of time trying to get banned from a forum? There's only one way to find out: FIGHT!

*ahem* Sorry I watched Harry Hill last night.

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#100 TeamR
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Hows this for a sad comparison: Tech_Guy_2 or the people that actually waste their time ARGUING with Tech_Guy_2

Which is sadder? This thread is full of sad