A comparasion of PC and PS3 version of COD4.PC FAIL!

So i took my secondary PC with an 8600GT to my friends place who has a 42" 1080p HDTV and ps3.So we first loaded the ps3 version and played the first level for some time.Then we connected the PC to the HDTV and loaded up 720p resolution cuz 1080p is too high for the card just like the ps3 with 2xAA and god it looked so bad simply terrible.

You know why?Because PC's lack a scaler chip.LMAO:lol: .So for the game to be played on that PC i would have to buy a 720p HDTV or a lower res LCD whereas with the ps3 you dont have to worry about this matter.

Hermits that is simply epic FAILURE.Sorry.:(

Thats a bad comparison... Im not even going to bother to argue its just wrong.

8600GT and hooked it up to a TV... :lol: PS3 Teh WinZ0r

You do realise that the PS3 is outputting at a 600p resolution native (1024x600), while the PC is outputting at 1920×1080 native

right?

Even outputting at a lower resolution on the PC would look just fine.

Seriously this is an epic fail.

lol 8600 ??? bad card. The ps3 has basicly got a nvida 7900, or on the same level and that beats the 8600. The 8600 is a mid range card. So you compare it with the ps3 which is made just for games with a pc running a 8600 which deals with a ton more stuff. Yup sounds fair to me.bindip

[QUOTE="bindip"]lol 8600 ??? bad card. The ps3 has basicly got a nvida 7900, or on the same level and that beats the 8600. The 8600 is a mid range card. So you compare it with the ps3 which is made just for games with a pc running a 8600 which deals with a ton more stuff. Yup sounds fair to me.Tech_Guy_2

8800GT is mid range, 8800GTX/Ultra is high end.

Not to mention the PC version of COD4 has much higher texture details ect.

Hell i know this all first hand I played through half of COD4 on my 360, and own COD4 on PC.

You do realise that the PS3 is outputting at a 600p resolution native (1024x600), while the PC is outputting at 1920×1080 native

right?

Even outputting at a lower resolution on the PC would look just fine.

Seriously this is an epic fail.

skrat_01

Unless ofcourse you want to burn your eyes and play on some CRT monitor.LOL.

[QUOTE="bindip"]lol 8600 ??? bad card. The ps3 has basicly got a nvida 7900, or on the same level and that beats the 8600. The 8600 is a mid range card. So you compare it with the ps3 which is made just for games with a pc running a 8600 which deals with a ton more stuff. Yup sounds fair to me.Tech_Guy_2

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="bindip"]lol 8600 ??? bad card. The ps3 has basicly got a nvida 7900, or on the same level and that beats the 8600. The 8600 is a mid range card. So you compare it with the ps3 which is made just for games with a pc running a 8600 which deals with a ton more stuff. Yup sounds fair to me.skrat_01

8800GT is mid range, 8800GTX/Ultra is high end.

Not to mention the PC version of COD4 has much higher texture details ect.

Hell i know this all first hand I played through half of COD4 on my 360, and own COD4 on PC.

Sorry man but what you are saying is the point that hermits always deny about upgrading.

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="bindip"]lol 8600 ??? bad card. The ps3 has basicly got a nvida 7900, or on the same level and that beats the 8600. The 8600 is a mid range card. So you compare it with the ps3 which is made just for games with a pc running a 8600 which deals with a ton more stuff. Yup sounds fair to me.skrat_01

8800GT is mid range, 8800GTX/Ultra is high end.

Not to mention the PC version of COD4 has much higher texture details ect.

Hell i know this all first hand I played through half of COD4 on my 360, and own COD4 on PC.

8800 GTS 320/640 mb are mid range cards so is the 8800GT (mid-high) High end starts with the 8800 GTS 512mb... 8600GT is simply bad..

i can't be bothered to argue with this. its just tired. we all know a £150 8800gt eats any console game alive.

now who heres played audiosurf, its great :)

http://uk.gamespot.com/features/6183967/p-4.html

Here's your comparison:

8600GT 1280*1024 COD4 MAXIMUM QUILITY 40FPS!

CONSOLE 1024*600 60FPS... keep in mind this looks worse than the PC version and runs on a lower resolution.

So i took my secondary PC with an 8600GT to my friends place who has a 42" 1080p HDTV and ps3.So we first loaded the ps3 version and played the first level for some time.Then we connected the PC to the HDTV and loaded up 720p resolution cuz 1080p is too high for the card just like the ps3 with 2xAA and god it looked so bad simply terrible.

You know why?Because PC's lack a scaler chip.LMAO:lol: .So for the game to be played on that PC i would have to buy a 720p HDTV or a lower res LCD whereas with the ps3 you dont have to worry about this matter.

Hermits that is simply epic FAILURE.Sorry.:(

Tech_Guy_2

A nerd cow.

Interesting spiecies.

People, we have to investigate this. It may not be healthy for universal balance.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

You do realise that the PS3 is outputting at a 600p resolution native (1024x600), while the PC is outputting at 1920×1080 native

right?

Even outputting at a lower resolution on the PC would look just fine.

Seriously this is an epic fail.

Tech_Guy_2

Unless ofcourse you want to burn your eyes and play on some CRT monitor.LOL.

Hell it proves how right 'hermits' were all along.

And what are you talking about VGA res quality on a LCD of higher output? That makes no sense whatsoever. If you mean it wont display at full 1080p well, neither does the PS3.

Damn the ignorance of your own words is laughable.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="bindip"]lol 8600 ??? bad card. The ps3 has basicly got a nvida 7900, or on the same level and that beats the 8600. The 8600 is a mid range card. So you compare it with the ps3 which is made just for games with a pc running a 8600 which deals with a ton more stuff. Yup sounds fair to me.Tech_Guy_2

8800GT is mid range, 8800GTX/Ultra is high end.

Not to mention the PC version of COD4 has much higher texture details ect.

Hell i know this all first hand I played through half of COD4 on my 360, and own COD4 on PC.

Sorry man but what you are saying is the point that hermits always deny about upgrading.

Everyone is quite aware that Crysis is pushing the boundaries of hardware, and that the 8800 ultra is a monster card (let alone 8800 series) and only Crysis stresses them graphically.

Who wants to play just Crysis at full 1080? Its an unrealistic expectiation.

You are sounding like a lost cause. First it was COD4 and upscaling, now its pc upgrading.

For a 'Tech Guy' you seem to be a complete contradiction of yourself.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="bindip"]lol 8600 ??? bad card. The ps3 has basicly got a nvida 7900, or on the same level and that beats the 8600. The 8600 is a mid range card. So you compare it with the ps3 which is made just for games with a pc running a 8600 which deals with a ton more stuff. Yup sounds fair to me.Tech_Guy_2

8800GT is mid range, 8800GTX/Ultra is high end.

Not to mention the PC version of COD4 has much higher texture details ect.

Hell i know this all first hand I played through half of COD4 on my 360, and own COD4 on PC.

Sorry man but what you are saying is the point that hermits always deny about upgrading.

Yeah, then the people with more money can get it in 1080p native, OH NOES! wemhim

OH NOEZ too bad everyone is rich. :cry:

wow, so the 360 version is superiour! since it looks a tad better than the PS3 version.

anyway, nonsense topic.

why are you called "Tech_Guy" ? you have very little knowledge of technology if I read your topics.

and I would like to see some schreens before I believe you

I hope you dont mind me asking but what are you trying to prove here?... because if your trying to say that COD4 looks worse on PC than a console your sadly mistaken and from what you have done I formaly strip you of your rights to compare games since you clearly show know sign of logic when doing so, this is mainly to prevent future arguements of which will occur shortly after you submit your next topic.

I dont actualy believe there's an arguement here... unless you want me to perform a comparision of UT3 using a PC monitor for both PC and console versions of the game and using full AA and the highest most possilble resolution an ULTRA can use on a 24" widescreen monitor.

Your comparison is flawed and I highly doubt that for one minute its unbias.

I hope you dont mind me asking but what are you trying to prove here?... because if your trying to say that COD4 looks worse on PC than a console your sadly mistaken and from what you have done I formaly strip you of your rights to compare games since you clearly show know sign of logic when doing so, this is mainly to prevent future arguements of which will occur shortly after you submit your next topic.

I dont actualy believe there's an arguement here... unless you want me to perform a comparision of UT3 using a PC monitor for both PC and console versions of the game and using full AA and the highest most possilble resolution an ULTRA can use on a 24" widescreen monitor.

Your comparison is flawed and I highly doubt that for one minute its unbias.

sadikovic

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

You do realise that the PS3 is outputting at a 600p resolution native (1024x600), while the PC is outputting at 1920×1080 native

right?

Even outputting at a lower resolution on the PC would look just fine.

Seriously this is an epic fail.

Tech_Guy_2

Unless ofcourse you want to burn your eyes and play on some CRT monitor.LOL.

Hell it proves how right 'hermits' were all along.

And what are you talking about VGA res quality on a LCD of higher output? That makes no sense whatsoever. If you mean it wont display at full 1080p well, neither does the PS3.

Damn the ignorance of your own words is laughable.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="bindip"]lol 8600 ??? bad card. The ps3 has basicly got a nvida 7900, or on the same level and that beats the 8600. The 8600 is a mid range card. So you compare it with the ps3 which is made just for games with a pc running a 8600 which deals with a ton more stuff. Yup sounds fair to me.Tech_Guy_2

8800GT is mid range, 8800GTX/Ultra is high end.

Not to mention the PC version of COD4 has much higher texture details ect.

Hell i know this all first hand I played through half of COD4 on my 360, and own COD4 on PC.

Sorry man but what you are saying is the point that hermits always deny about upgrading.

Everyone is quite aware that Crysis is pushing the boundaries of hardware, and that the 8800 ultra is a monster card (let alone 8800 series) and only Crysis stresses them graphically.

Who wants to play just Crysis at full 1080? Its an unrealistic expectiation.

You are sounding like a lost cause. First it was COD4 and upscaling, now its pc upgrading.

For a 'Tech Guy' you seem to be a complete contradiction of yourself.

Whereas with the PC you HAVE TO play in the native res of the LCD or else you are doomed.With the ps3 and 360 that is not the case.You know it man it's an essential flaw in PC gaming which nvidia and ATI dont seem to care for cuz they know they will kepp milking the hermits to upgrade to play in higher res.

Just answer me one question.I want to be able to get the same graphics as the ps3 version on the PC playing in 600p on a 1080p HDTV?Can i?

[QUOTE="sadikovic"]

I hope you dont mind me asking but what are you trying to prove here?... because if your trying to say that COD4 looks worse on PC than a console your sadly mistaken and from what you have done I formaly strip you of your rights to compare games since you clearly show know sign of logic when doing so, this is mainly to prevent future arguements of which will occur shortly after you submit your next topic.

I dont actualy believe there's an arguement here... unless you want me to perform a comparision of UT3 using a PC monitor for both PC and console versions of the game and using full AA and the highest most possilble resolution an ULTRA can use on a 24" widescreen monitor.

Your comparison is flawed and I highly doubt that for one minute its unbias.

Tech_Guy_2

Like your last "flaw" :lol:................................................................

The ps3 version does not run in 1080p i know that.However it runs it in a way that even if you have a 1080p display you are NOT getting inferior image quality to those who have a 720p TV.

Whereas with the PC you HAVE TO play in the native res of the LCD or else you are doomed.With the ps3 and 360 that is not the case.You know it man it's an essential flaw in PC gaming which nvidia and ATI dont seem to care for cuz they know they will kepp milking the hermits to upgrade to play in higher res.

Just answer me one question.I want to be able to get the same graphics as the ps3 version on the PC playing in 600p on a 1080p HDTV?Can i?

Tech_Guy_2

You dont HAVE to play in the native res of the LCD with PC games. Where did you get that argument from? You can simply play at a lower resolution. I dont see Nvidia putting a gun to my head demmanding me to play games at the native resolution on high res monitors / screens. Its the same with console games, many of which are outputting at lower res.

As for your final point, no the PC version is running at the native res, you would be better off just running the game at 720p, which would have a better image quality (on a 1080p TV), and keep the high FPS and maximum detail settings, with some anti analysing for good measure.

Either way the PS3 version looks worse, so I dont see why you keep trying to prove otherwise.

Its just fact, as a 'tech guy' you should (hopefully) know that.

System wars see for yourself.PC gaming FAILS.Period.Tech_Guy_2

If anyone is failing right now its certainly not PC gaming. Period.

Ironic much?

[QUOTE="sadikovic"]

I hope you dont mind me asking but what are you trying to prove here?... because if your trying to say that COD4 looks worse on PC than a console your sadly mistaken and from what you have done I formaly strip you of your rights to compare games since you clearly show know sign of logic when doing so, this is mainly to prevent future arguements of which will occur shortly after you submit your next topic.

I dont actualy believe there's an arguement here... unless you want me to perform a comparision of UT3 using a PC monitor for both PC and console versions of the game and using full AA and the highest most possilble resolution an ULTRA can use on a 24" widescreen monitor.

Your comparison is flawed and I highly doubt that for one minute its unbias.

Tech_Guy_2

Thats an over exaduration... I dont know any PC gamer that plays on his HDTV, why?... becuase it limits you to 1080p and if you can afford a 1080p TV then why not a get a monitor that cost three times less and displays twice the amount of pixels.

Theres no problem here... your making a mountain out of a ant hill.

System wars see for yourself.PC gaming FAILS.Period.Tech_Guy_2

Firstly, you quoted yourself? Second, the sentence you're looking for is "My PC fails. Period." To say that all PC gaming fails because yours is a sack of monkey poo is just ludicrous. Lets see your PS3 play Crysis.

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

The ps3 version does not run in 1080p i know that.However it runs it in a way that even if you have a 1080p display you are NOT getting inferior image quality to those who have a 720p TV.

Whereas with the PC you HAVE TO play in the native res of the LCD or else you are doomed.With the ps3 and 360 that is not the case.You know it man it's an essential flaw in PC gaming which nvidia and ATI dont seem to care for cuz they know they will kepp milking the hermits to upgrade to play in higher res.

Just answer me one question.I want to be able to get the same graphics as the ps3 version on the PC playing in 600p on a 1080p HDTV?Can i?

skrat_01

You dont HAVE to play in the native res of the LCD with PC games. Where did you get that argument from? You can simply play at a lower resolution. I dont see Nvidia putting a gun to my head demmanding me to play games at the native resolution on high res monitors / screens. Its the same with console games, many of which are outputting at lower res.

As for your final point, no the PC version is running at the native res, you would be better off just running the game at 720p, which would have a better image quality (on a 1080p TV), and keep the high FPS and maximum detail settings, with some anti analysing for good measure.

Either way the PS3 version looks worse, so I dont see why you keep trying to prove otherwise.

Its just fact, as a 'tech guy' you should (hopefully) know that.

System wars see for yourself.PC gaming FAILS.Period.Tech_Guy_2

If anyone is failing right now its certainly not PC gaming. Period.

Ironic much?

If you deny this then well you dont know what you are saying.

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]System wars see for yourself.PC gaming FAILS.Period.AirGuitarist87

Firstly, you quoted yourself? Second, the sentence you're looking for is "My PC fails. Period." To say that all PC gaming fails because yours is a sack of monkey poo is just ludicrous. Lets see your PS3 play Crysis.

Exactly. PCs dont fail; YOUR pc just fails.

No you have to play in "windowed" mode if you are not going to play in the native res.Upscaling reduces the image quality significantly to the point that you may not game at all.Whereas upscaling with consoles is pretty good.

If you deny this then well you dont know what you are saying.

Tech_Guy_2

Or you could just let the TV handle the upscaling, as most 1080 TV's have very good scaling chips inside anyway, becuase they have to deal with lower res content anyway.

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

No you have to play in "windowed" mode if you are not going to play in the native res.Upscaling reduces the image quality significantly to the point that you may not game at all.Whereas upscaling with consoles is pretty good.

If you deny this then well you dont know what you are saying.

G013M

Or you could just let the TV handle the upscaling, as most 1080 TV's have very good scaling chips inside anyway, becuase they have to deal with lower res content anyway.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]Can we change the thread to "my PC fails in comparison to the PS3" - believe it or not there are rigs out there which are better than yours, which dont suffer from these issues.Tech_Guy_2

My PC has a tv one-task. It cost $400, but it scales anything i plug into it up to 1080p, so any games running on my PC look just fine on my TV. Why you'd bother even using an HDTV with your PC with no equipment to make the required resolution adjustments is beyond me anyway; so yeah, your PC fails. Not PCs in general. Just yours.

What happens when i connect it to a monitor.What you are saying means that if you want to future proof your PC than you have to play on some expensive HDTV or some bulky CRT that will kill your eyes.Tech_Guy_2

So now you're saying PC fails because you hooked it up to a cheap HDTV? :| Do you not see the flaws in this arguement?

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

What happens when i connect it to a monitor.What you are saying means that if you want to future proof your PC than you have to play on some expensive HDTV or some bulky CRT that will kill your eyes.Ninja-Vox

So now you're saying PC fails because you hooked it up to a cheap HDTV? :| Do you not see the flaws in this arguement?

I am not saying that this applies to everyone and all that but this is a big flaw with PC gaming and surely not everybody may get affected by this.

What happens when i connect it to a monitor.What you are saying means that if you want to future proof your PC than you have to play on some expensive HDTV or some bulky CRT that will kill your eyes.Tech_Guy_2

Well actually any LCD or Plasma TV should have some form of scaling inside. LCD Computer monitors having scaling chips inside, and the only place that you're really going to tell that it's been scaled is in small font text that computers use.

In game the difference is far less. Besides, GPU's can scale as well :?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

What happens when i connect it to a monitor.What you are saying means that if you want to future proof your PC than you have to play on some expensive HDTV or some bulky CRT that will kill your eyes.Tech_Guy_2

So now you're saying PC fails because you hooked it up to a cheap HDTV? :| Do you not see the flaws in this arguement?

I am not saying that this applies to everyone and all that but this is a big flaw with PC gaming and surely not everybody may get affected by this.

The PS3 was developed with that in mind... the PC was developed to run on monitors... no one has won but your comparison has lost.

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]What happens when i connect it to a monitor.What you are saying means that if you want to future proof your PC than you have to play on some expensive HDTV or some bulky CRT that will kill your eyes.G013M

Well actually any LCD or Plasma TV should have some form of scaling inside. LCD Computer monitors having scaling chips inside, and the only place that you're really going to tell that it's been scaled is in small font text that computers use.

In game the difference is far less. Besides, GPU's can scale as well :?

[QUOTE="G013M"]

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]What happens when i connect it to a monitor.What you are saying means that if you want to future proof your PC than you have to play on some expensive HDTV or some bulky CRT that will kill your eyes.Tech_Guy_2

Well actually any LCD or Plasma TV should have some form of scaling inside. LCD Computer monitors having scaling chips inside, and the only place that you're really going to tell that it's been scaled is in small font text that computers use.

In game the difference is far less. Besides, GPU's can scale as well :?

A cheap HDTV costs as much as a very very good monitor... whats the problem here?

That's just your opinion that normal PC monitors are good at scaling.I cannot stand the blury mess of scaling on a cheap LCD.Tech_Guy_2

Then just get your GPU to scale it then if you aren't happy with the LCD scaling :?.

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

What happens when i connect it to a monitor.What you are saying means that if you want to future proof your PC than you have to play on some expensive HDTV or some bulky CRT that will kill your eyes.sadikovic

So now you're saying PC fails because you hooked it up to a cheap HDTV? :| Do you not see the flaws in this arguement?

I am not saying that this applies to everyone and all that but this is a big flaw with PC gaming and surely not everybody may get affected by this.

The PS3 was developed with that in mind... the PC was developed to run on monitors... no one has won but your comparison has lost.

[QUOTE="sadikovic"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

What happens when i connect it to a monitor.What you are saying means that if you want to future proof your PC than you have to play on some expensive HDTV or some bulky CRT that will kill your eyes.Tech_Guy_2

So now you're saying PC fails because you hooked it up to a cheap HDTV? :| Do you not see the flaws in this arguement?

I am not saying that this applies to everyone and all that but this is a big flaw with PC gaming and surely not everybody may get affected by this.

The PS3 was developed with that in mind... the PC was developed to run on monitors... no one has won but your comparison has lost.

Lemme ask you something, TC. How much is an 8600GT compared to a PS3? ;)

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="G013M"]

[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]What happens when i connect it to a monitor.What you are saying means that if you want to future proof your PC than you have to play on some expensive HDTV or some bulky CRT that will kill your eyes.sadikovic

Well actually any LCD or Plasma TV should have some form of scaling inside. LCD Computer monitors having scaling chips inside, and the only place that you're really going to tell that it's been scaled is in small font text that computers use.

In game the difference is far less. Besides, GPU's can scale as well :?

A cheap HDTV costs as much as a very very good monitor... whats the problem here?

Besides i can hook up the ps3 to some cheap LCD cuz it has beter scaling.

[QUOTE="sadikovic"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

What happens when i connect it to a monitor.What you are saying means that if you want to future proof your PC than you have to play on some expensive HDTV or some bulky CRT that will kill your eyes.Tech_Guy_2

So now you're saying PC fails because you hooked it up to a cheap HDTV? :| Do you not see the flaws in this arguement?

I am not saying that this applies to everyone and all that but this is a big flaw with PC gaming and surely not everybody may get affected by this.

The PS3 was developed with that in mind... the PC was developed to run on monitors... no one has won but your comparison has lost.

No... as said before their are PC's and HD sets so no it doesn't lose, YOURS does!