360 CAN DO Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2.

You need talented first party devs who build engines from ground up for new games, not a BR player add on.

hahaahahaha.............oh wait the TC is serious. BTW sony owns those games but then again its not the storage its the devs,achitecture and the budget.

Since 360 is so easy to develop for as they say 360 should be far ahead if comparable but what does it get..L4D2 and ODST which both look like trash to Killzone and Uncharted2killzowned24

Both will be enjoyed for much longer, and be enjoyed by far more people.

I guess that kidna means Gameplay > Graphics?

do anyone of you know that uncharted 2 doesnt load in the entire game once?

do anyone of you know that uncharted 2 doesnt load in the entire game once?

ioannisdenton

[QUOTE="Mr_Lube"][QUOTE="mythrol"]So no one has taken the obvious route and told him . . . storage medium =/= graphics ???mythrol

BAM! HEADSHOT! This post is the correct answer, no major, if any at all, 360 games use a game engine built specifically for the 360, they are 3rd party engines like UE3, if and when the 360 has a game that uses an engine built specifically for the 360's architecture, the games would run much more efficiently on the 360.

[QUOTE="Mr_Lube"][QUOTE="Frank2368"]

Hardware wise, it is able to do graphics like U2 and KZ2. U2 has alot of duped data in order to have no loading time

29121994

SONY does not make the decision of who can use Blu-Ray, the Blu-Ray Association does, besides, MS gets royalties from Blu-Ray.

So now that I got those pics of my roommates' 360 out of the way, as I was saying, Halo ODST doesn't impress me one bit even on a 1080p 56" Samsung plasma TV.

this game could even look better on 360 if they really wanted to.Mr_Lube

I'll see that and raise you a

Gears 2 probably, maybe, would look better on the PS3 if they wanted.

So now that I got those pics of my roommates' 360 out of the way, as I was saying, Halo ODST doesn't impress me one bit even on a 1080p 56" Samsung plasma TV.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

odst wasnt supposed to impress anybody... it wasnt a showcase for graphics. they wanted to put alot of enemies on screen, you have to take a hit in resolution unless you want alot of framerate dips

It's not just limited to ODST. I haven't seen a single 360 game that impresses me on the level of a game like MGS 4, Killzone 2, and Uncharted 2.

It's not just limited to ODST. I haven't seen a single 360 game that impresses me on the level of a game like MGS 4, Killzone 2, and Uncharted 2.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

thats fine... thats your opinion

the hardware tells a different story. just because they havent, doesnt mean it cant...

That's like saying just because I haven't dunked like Michael Jordan doesn't mean I can't.

That's like saying just because I haven't dunked like Michael Jordan doesn't mean I can't.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

think about it:

the hardware is very similar... it can handle it

if you are 4 feet tall, its obvious you wouldnt be able to dunk, let alone dunk over MJ

a little logic helps...

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

That's like saying just because I haven't dunked like Michael Jordan doesn't mean I can't.

ogvampire

think about it:

the hardware is very similar... it can handle it

if you are 4 feet tall, its obvious you wouldnt be able to dunk, let alone dunk over MJ

a little logic helps...

I'm 6'2".

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

That's like saying just because I haven't dunked like Michael Jordan doesn't mean I can't.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

think about it:

the hardware is very similar... it can handle it

if you are 4 feet tall, its obvious you wouldnt be able to dunk, let alone dunk over MJ

a little logic helps...

I'm 6'2".

wow.... way to get the point...

so tell me, between your time posting on an internet forum, and taking pictures for said forum, when do you, you know, practice law?clone01

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6161/asdfuv.jpg

the 360 blu-ray player (if it even happens) will only be an add-on. what does this mean? the devs will not make games on bluray disc for the 360 because not everyone is gonna go out and buy the add-on. even if the 360 bluray add-on becomes a reality, devs will continue to make their games for the 360 on dvd9 format. so you're wrong. it's like you basically admitted 360 can't do uncharted 2 nor killzon 2.

[QUOTE="clone01"] so tell me, between your time posting on an internet forum, and taking pictures for said forum, when do you, you know, practice law?TREY_FOR_LI4E

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6161/asdfuv.jpg

I don't know what you mean by "here," but yes, it's almost noon on a Thursday here in San Diego, and I'm at the office again.

So how does crow taste?

So how does crow taste?

TREY_FOR_LI4E

And I proved that when I say not a single 360 game has impressed me as much as the best PS3 exclusives, I'm speaking from experience.

Once the 360 gets an add on blu ray player all these games are possible on 360 and we might even see them all come to 360 from their respective devs then the ps3 what will it have over the 360? Mr_Lube

[QUOTE="mythrol"]So no one has taken the obvious route and told him . . . storage medium =/= graphics ???Mr_Lube

Doubtful, 360 games tend to have a cancave look to them, if you look at the sides of the screen on games such as halo and Gears they seem to be stretched. The PS3 has incredible depth of field which makes an image look the way it should that takes care of this flaw.

And I proved that when I say not a single 360 game has impressed me as much as the best PS3 exclusives, I'm speaking from experience.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

So? Your opinion =/= the truth.

And I proved that when I say not a single 360 game has impressed me as much as the best PS3 exclusives, I'm speaking from experience.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

And I proved that when I say not a single 360 game has impressed me as much as the best PS3 exclusives, I'm speaking from experience.

lundy86_4

So? Your opinion =/= the truth.

You can call it opinion, but when I compare 360 games that my roommates play to the games I play on PS3, I see massive gap between the two systems' exclusives.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

And I proved that when I say not a single 360 game has impressed me as much as the best PS3 exclusives, I'm speaking from experience.

So? Your opinion =/= the truth.

You can call it opinion, but when I compare 360 games that my roommates play to the games I play on PS3, I see massive gap between the two systems' exclusives.

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

So? Your opinion =/= the truth.

clone01

You can call it opinion, but when I compare 360 games that my roommates play to the games I play on PS3, I see massive gap between the two systems' exclusives.

A widely shared opinion. Even my roommates agree.

A widely shared opinion. Even my roommates agree.

You know what they say about denial: its a defense mechanism.

Also, 360 isn't getting a blu ray player, and if it did then it would be a major screw over to let it play games better, soo... they aren't doing that. Besides its not JUST the BR disc, PS3 specs might help.

Just saying. Besides, since they are Sony published games they have just less likelyhood of Halo coming to PS3, which it could right NOW, but it won't since its MS owned.

oh, hey, I guess it's just "opinion" when people say Crysis is the best looking PC game, if not best looking game. Period.

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

And I proved that when I say not a single 360 game has impressed me as much as the best PS3 exclusives, I'm speaking from experience.

clone01

Apparently most people agree with him, as PS3 games are much more critically acclaimed graphically.;)

oh, hey, I guess it's just "opinion" when people say Crysis is the best looking PC game, if not best looking game. Period.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

except that its a technical fact that crysis is graphically superior to any console game. it can get resolutions far higher than what the ps3/360 or even your hdtv can handle

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

oh, hey, I guess it's just "opinion" when people say Crysis is the best looking PC game, if not best looking game. Period.

ogvampire

except that its a technical fact that crysis is graphically superior to any console game. it can get resolutions far higher than what the ps3/360 or even your hdtv can handle

Sorry, bro, your opinion =/= fact.

[QUOTE="mythrol"]So no one has taken the obvious route and told him . . . storage medium =/= graphics ???Mr_Lube

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

oh, hey, I guess it's just "opinion" when people say Crysis is the best looking PC game, if not best looking game. Period.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

except that its a technical fact that crysis is graphically superior to any console game. it can get resolutions far higher than what the ps3/360 or even your hdtv can handle

Sorry, bro, your opinion =/= fact.

Crysis being technologically superior than any console game is fact. It has access hardware that can push much more, higher res textures, higher LOD, higher draw distance, more can be loaded into memory (hence a sprawling island), etc etc.

It is fact, not opinion.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

oh, hey, I guess it's just "opinion" when people say Crysis is the best looking PC game, if not best looking game. Period.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

except that its a technical fact that crysis is graphically superior to any console game. it can get resolutions far higher than what the ps3/360 or even your hdtv can handle

Sorry, bro, your opinion =/= fact.

cool story

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

except that its a technical fact that crysis is graphically superior to any console game. it can get resolutions far higher than what the ps3/360 or even your hdtv can handle

ogvampire

Sorry, bro, your opinion =/= fact.

a games resolution is not an opinion, its a fact... duh

In your opinion.

The PS3 architecture gives it, when used to it's potential, a decisive advantage over the 360 in terms of graphical prowess.

[QUOTE="skektek"]

A GTX 260, a hot glue gun, and the NES can run Crysis.

sakura_Ex

Might I ask.... what would this Frankenstein of a console be called?

Martha Stewart's Video Toaster

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

oh, hey, I guess it's just "opinion" when people say Crysis is the best looking PC game, if not best looking game. Period.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

except that its a technical fact that crysis is graphically superior to any console game. it can get resolutions far higher than what the ps3/360 or even your hdtv can handle

Sorry, bro, your opinion =/= fact.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

Sorry, bro, your opinion =/= fact.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

a games resolution is not an opinion, its a fact... duh

In your opinion.

THE BLU RAY ADD ON WONT BE USED IN GAMES. got that? /topic.Drakes_Fortune

the 360 cant do ps3 games that is a fact.cow_allesandro

Unreal Engine 3 does not use deferred rendering for lights.

Since 360 doesn't even have it's own engine wouldn't that mean it still has alot of potential?

[QUOTE="cow_allesandro"]the 360 cant do ps3 games that is a fact.ronvalencia