1up Resistance 2 Review: B+

The review mentions the one thing I have been feeling is that the game does not have a story co op mode . this side story co op crap is weak and pointless while games like Gears of War 2 have a story co op mode .

gaming heaven just scored it a 97/100

http://n4g.com/gaming/News-224094.aspx

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="nicenator"]

Also, LOL at this;

"It's a clear "we're improving upon our predecessor" type of title, and it succeeds on that front"

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3155184&p=37&sec=REVIEWS

Resistance: FOM score, A-

nervmeister

Standards do change over the course of 2 years. It improves upon the original, but it still may not be A+,A, A- material by todays standards.

It's alright to be addicted to a game that isn't AAA. :| If people only think "great" games get AAA, then they are dead wrong. AA is "great" for a reason. A, AA, AAA... all are worth playing and most likely buying.

More interesting personality wise when yuo listen to their 1UP podcast has nothing to do with reviews. GT, IGN, and GS are the best hads down IMO. TREAL_Since

A couple of the Insomniac guys were on the 1up FM podcast recently i think, and they said they felt a bit cheated when it came to Ratchet that they were criticized in many reviews against stuff they never promised and never said the game was to include.

Its a bit of a harsh dig, therefore, to criticize them for not including standard co-op (which they never said would be there IIRC) when they've put so much effort into pushing the concept forward with the 8 player stuff.

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3171026

That's the main disappointment, if any, behind Resistance 2. It's a clear "we're improving upon our predecessor" type of title, and it succeeds on that front. If you're really picky, you can quibble about certain aspects -- not as many cool visual effects as you'd hope for in a modern shooter (depth-of-field, motion blur, etc.) or occasional slowdown (mostly when respawning after an active firefight), to name two. But, overall, Resistance 2 is an extremely well-assembled FPS, with an improved campaign, fun competitive multiplayer, and a damn neat take on co-op. I wouldn't go as far as to say this is the definitive PS3 game, but it's certainly one of the best PS3 exclusives I've played. Plus, I gotta give props to a game that loves giant monsters as much as I do.

Reading the review, it makes the score seem a bit harsh. I would have thought at least an A-.

Still, not a bad score by any means.

nicenator

Honestly, he sounds like a guy who doubted R2 in the first place and tried to find 'little' things about it he didn't like.

His main complaints:
- Slowdown only after you respawn
- No motion blur or depth of field
- No traditional co-op

And he brushes the 8 player co-op campaign as if it's a mini game or something :lol:.

Now, I'm not the complaining type, but that is utterly ridiculous. Oh well :?...

Wii Music>>>>Resistance 2.What are those guys smoking? :lol:stvee101

[QUOTE="Kratos_OMEGA"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

I think WE CAN ALLAGREE that 1UP FAILS HARD. Lems, Cows, and Hermits alike. Sheep love them surely :P.

People complain about Gamespot, but 1UP are some the most biased and shoddy reviewers on the net.

TREAL_Since

I still prefer 1up to Gamespot. At least they have more interesting reviewers, GS have the worst sorry ass boring bunch of ****'s i ever seen.

More interesting personality wise when yuo listen to their 1UP podcast has nothing to do with reviews. GT, IGN, and GS are the best hads down IMO.

GT though, they're my favourite.

gaming heaven just scored it a 97/100

http://n4g.com/gaming/News-224094.aspx

ozmatic77

how harsh are them?

just asking

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

We Ski > Wii Music > Resistance 2

Hahaha, 1up is such trash.

PS3Breeder

tHEY DIDNT REVIEW wII mUSIC AS A fps ,your not to bright are u ?

MabyE Im not To btrie !

gaming heaven just scored it a 97/100

http://n4g.com/gaming/News-224094.aspx

ozmatic77

That's better :)

lol cows already start the demge control

R1 get an A- becuse the standart back then was low

its like say that HALO 1 > HALO 3 becuse the score...

So Wii Music is better than Resistance 2 according to 1up?

They fail. Hard.

Aljosa23

No, you fail for thinking that 1Up places Wii Music above Resistance 2.

The review mentions the one thing I have been feeling is that the game does not have a story co op mode . this side story co op crap is weak and pointless while games like Gears of War 2 have a story co op mode .

ExtremeOne316

That's the point. From the beggining Insomniac said that they would create separate campaigns. One dedicated to single player experience. And the other to co-op. Fleshing out each mode to its strengths as well as intwining the story. I mean, how can that be a bad thing?

[QUOTE="Kratos_OMEGA"][QUOTE="ULTIMATEZWARRIO"][QUOTE="nicenator"]

Also, LOL at this;

"It's a clear "we're improving upon our predecessor" type of title, and it succeeds on that front"

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3155184&p=37&sec=REVIEWS

Resistance: FOM score, A-

ULTIMATEZWARRIO

Not really. Standards change so no self ownage here.

Just bc you think the 2nd installment of a game is better does not mean it deserves a better score. You score a game based on standards of the time it is coming out and the standards have went up. You do not score a game based on how the 1st game scored, that would be stupid. No self-ownage.

[QUOTE="ExtremeOne316"]

The review mentions the one thing I have been feeling is that the game does not have a story co op mode . this side story co op crap is weak and pointless while games like Gears of War 2 have a story co op mode .

Episode_Eve

That's the point. From the beggining Insomniac said that they would create separate campaigns. One dedicated to single player experience. And the other to co-op. Fleshing out each mode to its strengths as well as intwining the story. I mean, how can that be a bad thing?

maybe its a bad thing for the people that wanted to play co-op but the main story, not the side-missions (even though they still tie in with the story)

thats the only reason i can think of

From what i can gather, the main criticisms are:

- Enemy AI seems to focus on you incessantly regardless of your actions (fair enough).

- Lack of traditional co-op (... yeah, not quite so sure i can agree with that when considering the scale and effort they have put into the 8 player game. Seems like a bit of a slap in the face really.)

- Lack of vehicle sequences (which werent very good in the first one...)

- Difficulty points down a path of trial and error (isnt that basically most games with any sort of reasonable challenge level?)

nicenator

What do they mean by "traditional co-op?" They have split-screen, right? So they can't be talking about that.

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="nicenator"]

Also, LOL at this;

"It's a clear "we're improving upon our predecessor" type of title, and it succeeds on that front"

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3155184&p=37&sec=REVIEWS

Resistance: FOM score, A-

BioShockOwnz

Standards do change over the course of 2 years. It improves upon the original, but it still may not be A+,A, A- material by todays standards.

It's alright to be addicted to a game that isn't AAA. :| If people only think "great" games get AAA, then they are dead wrong. AA is "great" for a reason. A, AA, AAA... all are worth playing and most likely buying.

maybe its a bad thing for the people that wanted to play co-op but the main story, not the side-missions (even though they still tie in with the story)

thats the only reason i can think of

ogvampire

quite possibly, but if a developer has chosen to attempt to push a concept forward through a radical new idea, and it succeeds in doing so, the last thing i would do as a reviewer is spend more time complaining about the old style not being present than praising the developers for the progress they've made within the genre.

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="Kratos_OMEGA"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

I think WE CAN ALLAGREE that 1UP FAILS HARD. Lems, Cows, and Hermits alike. Sheep love them surely :P.

People complain about Gamespot, but 1UP are some the most biased and shoddy reviewers on the net.

EuroMafia

I still prefer 1up to Gamespot. At least they have more interesting reviewers, GS have the worst sorry ass boring bunch of ****'s i ever seen.

More interesting personality wise when yuo listen to their 1UP podcast has nothing to do with reviews. GT, IGN, and GS are the best hads down IMO.

GT though, they're my favourite.

GT has it's share of questionable reviews...halo 3 having a better story than mgs4?...

[QUOTE="ExtremeOne316"]

The review mentions the one thing I have been feeling is that the game does not have a story co op mode . this side story co op crap is weak and pointless while games like Gears of War 2 have a story co op mode .

Episode_Eve

That's the point. From the beggining Insomniac said that they would create separate campaigns. One dedicated to single player experience. And the other to co-op. Fleshing out each mode to its strengths as well as intwining the story. I mean, how can that be a bad thing?

Appearantly trying to do something new and create a SEPARATE STORY DRIVEN CAMPAIGN, just for co-op, that supports 8 players doesn't meet today's console standards. I will wait on the GS and GT reviews :).

I don't like complaining. I feel like a little ***** doing so, but I can't help it if he gives no reasonable arguments of why he scored it below AAA.

[QUOTE="nicenator"]

Also, LOL at this;

"It's a clear "we're improving upon our predecessor" type of title, and it succeeds on that front"

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3155184&p=37&sec=REVIEWS

Resistance: FOM score, A-

BioShockOwnz

Standards do change over the course of 2 years. It improves upon the original, but it still may not be A+,A, A- material by todays standards.

Yeah, especially since Crysis 1 and 2, STALKER 1 and 2, and most of all; Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare released during the time between Resistance 1 and Resistance 2.

I said "most of all" because those are console shooters.

[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="Kratos_OMEGA"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

I think WE CAN ALLAGREE that 1UP FAILS HARD. Lems, Cows, and Hermits alike. Sheep love them surely :P.

People complain about Gamespot, but 1UP are some the most biased and shoddy reviewers on the net.

ozmatic77

I still prefer 1up to Gamespot. At least they have more interesting reviewers, GS have the worst sorry ass boring bunch of ****'s i ever seen.

More interesting personality wise when yuo listen to their 1UP podcast has nothing to do with reviews. GT, IGN, and GS are the best hads down IMO.

GT though, they're my favourite.

GT has it's share of questionable reviews...halo 3 having a better story than mgs4?...

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="ExtremeOne316"]

The review mentions the one thing I have been feeling is that the game does not have a story co op mode . this side story co op crap is weak and pointless while games like Gears of War 2 have a story co op mode .

ogvampire

That's the point. From the beggining Insomniac said that they would create separate campaigns. One dedicated to single player experience. And the other to co-op. Fleshing out each mode to its strengths as well as intwining the story. I mean, how can that be a bad thing?

maybe its a bad thing for the people that wanted to play co-op but the main story, not the side-missions (even though they still tie in with the story)

thats the only reason i can think of

Well, most games either don't do co-op. Or simply throw in an extra player for the campaign mode. These people should have known to be disapointed from the very beggining (I find that rediculous anyway), sinc Insomniac stated that they are taking a different approach to co-op. How can you complain? There is an an awesome single player and 8-player co-op dedicated on teamwork. It gives us more in the end.

GT has it's share of questionable reviews...halo 3 having a better story than mgs4?...

ozmatic77

[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="Kratos_OMEGA"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

I think WE CAN ALLAGREE that 1UP FAILS HARD. Lems, Cows, and Hermits alike. Sheep love them surely :P.

People complain about Gamespot, but 1UP are some the most biased and shoddy reviewers on the net.

ozmatic77

I still prefer 1up to Gamespot. At least they have more interesting reviewers, GS have the worst sorry ass boring bunch of ****'s i ever seen.

More interesting personality wise when yuo listen to their 1UP podcast has nothing to do with reviews. GT, IGN, and GS are the best hads down IMO.

GT though, they're my favourite.

GT has it's share of questionable reviews...halo 3 having a better story than mgs4?...

diffrent games ?

[QUOTE="ozmatic77"]

GT has it's share of questionable reviews...halo 3 having a better story than mgs4?...

Episode_Eve

What was the MGS4 story anyways?

Slept through everyone of the 30 min cutscenes.

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="ozmatic77"]

GT has it's share of questionable reviews...halo 3 having a better story than mgs4?...

TheOwnerOner

What was the MGS4 story anyways?

Slept through everyone of the 30 min cutscenes.

No comment.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]maybe its a bad thing for the people that wanted to play co-op but the main story, not the side-missions (even though they still tie in with the story)

thats the only reason i can think of

nicenator

quite possibly, but if a developer has chosen to attempt to push a concept forward through a radical new idea, and it succeeds in doing so, the last thing i would do as a reviewer is spend more time complaining about the old style not being present than praising the developers for the progress they've made within the genre.

i agree with you. we already knew what to expect from the game and what the developers said they were gonna include. why complain about something that you already knew wasnt gonna be there anyway? i mean, that feature has been replaced that by something that could turn out to be a better experience. its a little silly, imo

[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="ozmatic77"]

GT has it's share of questionable reviews...halo 3 having a better story than mgs4?...

Episode_Eve

What was the MGS4 story anyways?

Slept through everyone of the 30 min cutscenes.

No comment.

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

What was the MGS4 story anyways?

Slept through everyone of the 30 min cutscenes.

EuroMafia

No comment.

yeah, in fact Geow 1 had a better story than mgs4 :roll:

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="ozmatic77"]

GT has it's share of questionable reviews...halo 3 having a better story than mgs4?...

EuroMafia

What was the MGS4 story anyways?

Slept through everyone of the 30 min cutscenes.

No comment.

It's a great story to only those die hard MGS fans,

for the rest its a snore fest, seems like they tried too hard, ruined the game for me.

Man. Lower than I expected, but they also gave MGS4 A- :P. Still not a bad score. I'll read the review now.Episode_Eve

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="ozmatic77"]

GT has it's share of questionable reviews...halo 3 having a better story than mgs4?...

EuroMafia

What was the MGS4 story anyways?

Slept through everyone of the 30 min cutscenes.

No comment.

:| I'm not gonna sit here and explain to him--or anyone else for that matter--the story of MGS4. It will take to much time and I won't even get through all of it. If you want my opinion on it: MGS4's (and the MGS series) story completely $h!ts on Halo 3 and its semi-pretentiousness.

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="ozmatic77"]

GT has it's share of questionable reviews...halo 3 having a better story than mgs4?...

EuroMafia

What was the MGS4 story anyways?

Slept through everyone of the 30 min cutscenes.

No comment.

Why respond to people who just want to hate?

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="ExtremeOne316"]

The review mentions the one thing I have been feeling is that the game does not have a story co op mode . this side story co op crap is weak and pointless while games like Gears of War 2 have a story co op mode .

TREAL_Since

That's the point. From the beggining Insomniac said that they would create separate campaigns. One dedicated to single player experience. And the other to co-op. Fleshing out each mode to its strengths as well as intwining the story. I mean, how can that be a bad thing?

Appearantly trying to do something new and create a SEPARATE STORY DRIVEN CAMPAIGN, just for co-op, that supports 8 players doesn't meet today's console standards. I will wait on the GS and GT reviews :).

I don't like complaining. I feel like a little ***** doing so, but I can't help it if he gives no reasonable arguments of why he scored it below AAA.

• no co-op through the campaign
• no vehicles
• lack of a narrator
• under 10 hour campaign
• enemies targeting only you - breaking the illusion of being in a real squad
• cheap unexpected deaths
• absence of some visual delights of a modern shooter

postives

• scope
• good weapons
• enemies
• fun multiplayer
• neat co-op mode

I say an 8.0 maybe an 8.5 on GS

So 1UP matters?? thats a new one, all I remember from them is different kinds of rumours and lies.

GT5p having damage in day 1 was so hilarious.

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]Man. Lower than I expected, but they also gave MGS4 A- :P. Still not a bad score. I'll read the review now.blazinpuertoroc

That's sarcasm... right? :|

these ?

• no co-op through the campaign (yeah, shame they only incorporated a whole seperate campaign dedicated to co-op. Id rather they did that right than compromise the rest of the rest of the game to rush it in)
• no vehicles (subjective really. I hated them sections in R1, but some liked them, so fair enough)
• lack of a narrator (i cant remember this ever being seen as a negative until now. AFAIK everyone hated Rachel Parker and the fact that she was used in place of actual cut-scenes)
• under 10 hour campaign (like every other AAA FPS on the market)
• enemies targeting only you - breaking the illusion of being in a real squad (fair enough, i agree with this one)
• cheap unexpected deaths (again, most other FPS on the market has its share of these, Gears 1 and Halo 3 on heroic/legendary were terrible for this, didnt stop me enjoying them)
• absence of some visual delights of a modern shooter (some are in the game as unlockables, reviewer just missed this entirely)

Nike_Air