Official 2013 NFL Offseason thread

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#1501 Chutebox
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Patriots offering exchanges for Hernandez jerseys. Bring in your jersey and get a different player for no cost. New England is classy, they've handled this terrible situation very well.monkeytoes61
Ya, that's awesome. Good on Kraft
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#1502 Boston_Boyy
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Patriots offering exchanges for Hernandez jerseys. Bring in your jersey and get a different player for no cost. New England is classy, they've handled this terrible situation very well.monkeytoes61
Agreed.  Initially I was pissed because of how swiiftly the Patriots were moving against a guy who at the time I only expected to be charged with obstruction.  But with everything that's happened over the past few days i'm glad we disassociated ourselves as fast as we did.  The Cowboys on the other hand, could stand to learn a thing or two.

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#1503 PSP107
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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Patriots offering exchanges for Hernandez jerseys. Bring in your jersey and get a different player for no cost. New England is classy, they've handled this terrible situation very well.Boston_Boyy

Agreed.  Initially I was pissed because of how swiiftly the Patriots were moving against a guy who at the time I only expected to be charged with obstruction.  But with everything that's happened over the past few days i'm glad we disassociated ourselves as fast as we did.  The Cowboys on the other hand, could stand to learn a thing or two.

Did you trade your jersey in?
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#1504 36Ounces
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Shit i'd hold on to a Hernandez jersey if I had one. Prolly be worth a lotta money down the road. But yea props to the Pats for doing that.

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#1505 theone86
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Shit i'd hold on to a Hernandez jersey if I had one. Prolly be worth a lotta money down the road. But yea props to the Pats for doing that.

36Ounces

It would be hilarious if the team sold them all on ebay for huge money.  It would also be pretty funny if he ended up being cleared of everything.  If I traded in one of his jerseys and that happened I think I would feel pretty stupid.

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#1506 Travis_Odell
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I don't think the OJ case will ever happen again. Hernadez is ******!
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#1507 starwarsjunky
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nfl needs to stop babying the players and come down HARD on the players who get in off-field crap like they so often do anymore. its a thug league. and they need to fix it. as the teams and players aren't willing to step in most of the time, the league has to.
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#1508 X360PS3AMD05
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I heard Marcellus on sportsnation saying how teams do offer services for the players and even "mentors" to help you out, but they just don't use it :| Even with Yasiel Puig i know he has a mentor that he can talk to, coming over to a new country, getting rich/famous and still being young
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#1509 JML897
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[QUOTE="36Ounces"]

Shit i'd hold on to a Hernandez jersey if I had one. Prolly be worth a lotta money down the road. But yea props to the Pats for doing that.

theone86

It would be hilarious if the team sold them all on ebay for huge money.  It would also be pretty funny if he ended up being cleared of everything.  If I traded in one of his jerseys and that happened I think I would feel pretty stupid.

Eh, with everything that's come out about Hernandez recently I think it's pretty clear that he's a giant piece of shit even if he's acquitted somehow.

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#1510 starwarsjunky
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I heard Marcellus on sportsnation saying how teams do offer services for the players and even "mentors" to help you out, but they just don't use it :| Even with Yasiel Puig i know he has a mentor that he can talk to, coming over to a new country, getting rich/famous and still being youngX360PS3AMD05
they should be forced to. its extremely rare that players get anything more than a slap on the wrist for ANYthing.
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#1511 starwarsjunky
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="36Ounces"]

Shit i'd hold on to a Hernandez jersey if I had one. Prolly be worth a lotta money down the road. But yea props to the Pats for doing that.

JML897

It would be hilarious if the team sold them all on ebay for huge money.  It would also be pretty funny if he ended up being cleared of everything.  If I traded in one of his jerseys and that happened I think I would feel pretty stupid.

Eh, with everything that's come out about Hernandez recently I think it's pretty clear that he's a giant piece of shit even if he's acquitted somehow.

and if he's acquitted, the NFL would welcome him back in, just as with any other thug.
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Such a weird and depressing off-season for the Pats. I'd be surprised if we can win 12 games.

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#1513 Oleg_Huzwog
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Such a weird and depressing off-season for the Pats. I'd be surprised if we can win 12 games.

sherman-tank1

They'll be fine.  10 wins should be plenty to win that division.

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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

Such a weird and depressing off-season for the Pats. I'd be surprised if we can win 12 games.

Oleg_Huzwog

They'll be fine.  10 wins should be plenty to win that division.

Depends on how good Miami is. I also don't want to sleep on the Bills. If their coach turns out to be good they can rack up some wins. Really unpredictable division other than the Jets.

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Pats: The new Bengals
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#1516 DroidPhysX
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Such a weird and depressing off-season for the Pats. I'd be surprised if we can win 12 games.

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Guaranteed 5 in that division.
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

Such a weird and depressing off-season for the Pats. I'd be surprised if we can win 12 games.

sherman-tank1

They'll be fine.  10 wins should be plenty to win that division.

Depends on how good Miami is. I also don't want to sleep on the Bills. If their coach turns out to be good they can rack up some wins. Really unpredictable division other than the Jets.

lol the Bills. 

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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

They'll be fine.  10 wins should be plenty to win that division.

Put_in_Kitna

Depends on how good Miami is. I also don't want to sleep on the Bills. If their coach turns out to be good they can rack up some wins. Really unpredictable division other than the Jets.

lol the Bills. 

You can never underestimate a new regime. They can flop hard or surprise everybody.

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They're nothing without Fitzmagic.
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#1520 No_Hablo_Ingles
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nfl needs to stop babying the players and come down HARD on the players who get in off-field crap like they so often do anymore. its a thug league. and they need to fix it. as the teams and players aren't willing to step in most of the time, the league has to.starwarsjunky
A majority of the cases tend to be DUIs... I don't see much thuggary in that.
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#1521 monkeytoes61
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I read somewhere that the arrest rate among the general population is lower than that in the NFL.
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I read somewhere that the arrest rate among the general population is lower than that in the NFL.monkeytoes61
Funny I read the opposite. Regardless, I don't believe it is right for the NFL to be more involved in players' lives in order to improve crime rates.

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#1523 starwarsjunky
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[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"]nfl needs to stop babying the players and come down HARD on the players who get in off-field crap like they so often do anymore. its a thug league. and they need to fix it. as the teams and players aren't willing to step in most of the time, the league has to.No_Hablo_Ingles
A majority of the cases tend to be DUIs... I don't see much thuggary in that.

it means you don't give a shlt. with what they're making they can't get someone else to drive or take a taxi?
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#1524 starwarsjunky
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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]I read somewhere that the arrest rate among the general population is lower than that in the NFL.sherman-tank1

Funny I read the opposite. Regardless, I don't believe it is right for the NFL to be more involved in players' lives in order to improve crime rates.

so its ok when people beat their girlfriends, drive drunk(endangering the lives of everyone on the road), some of whom serve time, are welcomed back with open arms, and make a mockery of the sport?
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#1525 Master_Live
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DUI's might not be thuggish, but could be worse. They totally should carry mandatory prison time, about damn time people get through their heads that drinking and driving isn't fvcking acceptable.
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#1526 Boston_Boyy
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I read somewhere that the arrest rate among the general population is lower than that in the NFL.monkeytoes61
This is actually true, and even more true when you compare them to young male adults of a similar age i'm pretty sure.  Though to be fair, it's also probably a lot higher than the rate of arrests for those in the highest tax income bracket.

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DUI's might not be thuggish, but could be worse. They totally should carry mandatory prison time, about damn time people get through their heads that drinking and driving isn't fvcking acceptable. Master_Live
I've always maintained that driving drunk should have way more stringent penalties. First offense should honestly be jail time and second offense should be lifelong suspension of license and more jail time. People do it again and again because the penalties can sometimes be a slap on the wrist. Hell, even people who can't afford the fines end up doing it again.
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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]I read somewhere that the arrest rate among the general population is lower than that in the NFL.starwarsjunky

Funny I read the opposite. Regardless, I don't believe it is right for the NFL to be more involved in players' lives in order to improve crime rates.

so its ok when people beat their girlfriends, drive drunk(endangering the lives of everyone on the road), some of whom serve time, are welcomed back with open arms, and make a mockery of the sport?

I'm not saying they should come back to open arms, but the worst thing that the NFL should be able to do is suspend them. Let the court system handle the rest.

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[QUOTE="Master_Live"]DUI's might not be thuggish, but could be worse. They totally should carry mandatory prison time, about damn time people get through their heads that drinking and driving isn't fvcking acceptable. -Halftime-
I've always maintained that driving drunk should have way more stringent penalties. First offense should honestly be jail time and second offense should be lifelong suspension of license and more jail time. People do it again and again because the penalties can sometimes be a slap on the wrist. Hell, even people who can't afford the fines end up doing it again.

The irratting thing about taking away somebody license is that they will probably end up doing it anyway.

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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"][QUOTE="Master_Live"]DUI's might not be thuggish, but could be worse. They totally should carry mandatory prison time, about damn time people get through their heads that drinking and driving isn't fvcking acceptable. sherman-tank1

I've always maintained that driving drunk should have way more stringent penalties. First offense should honestly be jail time and second offense should be lifelong suspension of license and more jail time. People do it again and again because the penalties can sometimes be a slap on the wrist. Hell, even people who can't afford the fines end up doing it again.

The irratting thing about taking away somebody license is that they will probably end up doing it anyway.

Yes, but I really do think if first offenses carried jail time and repeat offenders got longer sentences(I'm talking years) then I think you would see DUI's go down. DUI's are a slap on the wrist. Jail time needs to happen. Period. It's a serious problem. I knew a guy that got paralyzed from the neck down cus of idiots that drive drunk.
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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="-Halftime-"] I've always maintained that driving drunk should have way more stringent penalties. First offense should honestly be jail time and second offense should be lifelong suspension of license and more jail time. People do it again and again because the penalties can sometimes be a slap on the wrist. Hell, even people who can't afford the fines end up doing it again.-Halftime-

The irratting thing about taking away somebody license is that they will probably end up doing it anyway.

Yes, but I really do think if first offenses carried jail time and repeat offenders got longer sentences(I'm talking years) then I think you would see DUI's go down. DUI's are a slap on the wrist. Jail time needs to happen. Period. It's a serious problem. I knew a guy that got paralyzed from the neck down cus of idiots that drive drunk.

I think longer jail time is good, but I disagree about the license part. Not having a license can mess up somebody's life.

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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]The irratting thing about taking away somebody license is that they will probably end up doing it anyway.

sherman-tank1

Yes, but I really do think if first offenses carried jail time and repeat offenders got longer sentences(I'm talking years) then I think you would see DUI's go down. DUI's are a slap on the wrist. Jail time needs to happen. Period. It's a serious problem. I knew a guy that got paralyzed from the neck down cus of idiots that drive drunk.

I think longer jail time is good, but I disagree about the license part. Not having a license can mess up somebody's life.

Driving drunk can END somebody's life. People that drive drunk are stupid and don't deserve a license. It's not like anyone is MAKING them drive drunk. I've never driven drunk. It's a choice. If you are a repeat offender you absolutely deserve your license taken away.
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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="-Halftime-"] Yes, but I really do think if first offenses carried jail time and repeat offenders got longer sentences(I'm talking years) then I think you would see DUI's go down. DUI's are a slap on the wrist. Jail time needs to happen. Period. It's a serious problem. I knew a guy that got paralyzed from the neck down cus of idiots that drive drunk. -Halftime-

I think longer jail time is good, but I disagree about the license part. Not having a license can mess up somebody's life.

Driving drunk can END somebody's life. People that drive drunk are stupid and don't deserve a license. It's not like anyone is MAKING them drive drunk. I've never driven drunk. It's a choice. If you are a repeat offender you absolutely deserve your license taken away.

Taken away yes, but not for life. Now aday you are a waste of human life is you don't have a license your entire life.

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I think you should be able to earn it back, but only through rigorous rehabilitation. Mandatory AA attendance for instance.
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[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Funny I read the opposite. Regardless, I don't believe it is right for the NFL to be more involved in players' lives in order to improve crime rates.

sherman-tank1

so its ok when people beat their girlfriends, drive drunk(endangering the lives of everyone on the road), some of whom serve time, are welcomed back with open arms, and make a mockery of the sport?

I'm not saying they should come back to open arms, but the worst thing that the NFL should be able to do is suspend them. Let the court system handle the rest.

its a job. any other job would let you go for similar things. why should the NFL be any different?
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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"] so its ok when people beat their girlfriends, drive drunk(endangering the lives of everyone on the road), some of whom serve time, are welcomed back with open arms, and make a mockery of the sport?starwarsjunky

I'm not saying they should come back to open arms, but the worst thing that the NFL should be able to do is suspend them. Let the court system handle the rest.

its a job. any other job would let you go for similar things. why should the NFL be any different?

Scarcity, you get fired from IBM, next day they got 50 guys with great resumes one phone call away, that isn't the same in the NFL. That is why they get a longer leash than in other private companies. And that is that.
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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"] so its ok when people beat their girlfriends, drive drunk(endangering the lives of everyone on the road), some of whom serve time, are welcomed back with open arms, and make a mockery of the sport?starwarsjunky

I'm not saying they should come back to open arms, but the worst thing that the NFL should be able to do is suspend them. Let the court system handle the rest.

its a job. any other job would let you go for similar things. why should the NFL be any different?

Oh well yeah. That is a right of any business. 

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[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]I'm not saying they should come back to open arms, but the worst thing that the NFL should be able to do is suspend them. Let the court system handle the rest.Master_Live
its a job. any other job would let you go for similar things. why should the NFL be any different?

Scarcity, you get fired from IBM, next day they got 50 guys with great resumes one phone call away, that isn't the same in the NFL. That is why they get a longer leash than in other private companies. And that is that.

they got other players a phone call away...people will watch regardless.
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Those BC Lions are legit man

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Incoming fine for roddy white? Maybe v. Cruz?  Athletes should delete twitter

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Incoming fine for roddy white? Maybe v. Cruz?  Athletes should delete twitter

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I expected that shit from Roddy Waste, but Victor Cruz? What a moron.
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#1542 Master_Live
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Just stupid, they are too stupid to realize how those tweets will play out in public. Stupid.
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Figures, ppl always tryin to play the race card smh.

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Maybe if these athletes paid more attention to the story and knew there wasn't enough evidence to claim that Zimmerman started the incident this wouldn't be a problem.

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Maybe if these athletes paid more attention to the story and knew there wasn't enough evidence to claim that Zimmerman started the incident this wouldn't be a problem.

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Evidence shmevidence

I hope Roger Hitler does something with these two.

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Those BC Lions are legit man

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#1547 Boston_Boyy
Member since 2008 • 4103 Posts

Incoming fine for roddy white? Maybe v. Cruz?  Athletes should delete twitter

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If watching my twitter feed last night taught me anything it's that public figures in general shouldn't tweet about anything serious at all.  It was so so obvious that so many of them were talking out of ther asses and geniunely had no clue what was actually presented as evidence at the trial.

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#1548 Silverbond
Member since 2008 • 16130 Posts
[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Those BC Lions are legit man

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Are you being sarcastic?

No, I caught the game last night on ESPN 2. From what I saw they were pretty dominant
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#1549 36Ounces
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Look at these dumb mf'ers... http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9477236/photos-maurkice-pouncey-pittsburgh-steelers-mike-pouncey-miami-dolphins-free-hernandez-caps

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#1550 monkeytoes61
Member since 2005 • 8399 Posts
[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Those BC Lions are legit man

Silverbond
Are you being sarcastic?

No, I caught the game last night on ESPN 2. From what I saw they were pretty dominant

Lulay is probably the best QB in the CFL. That was a tough game though, in that monsoon.