Trump and Melania test positive for Covid19

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@MirkoS77 said:

Trump intends to do the next debate. This idiot is something else.

What's wrong? Don't think Biden can handle another debate?

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#452 HEATHEN75
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@eoten said:

What part of comorbidities do you not understand? Or about the average age of victims? This is not a disease that's going to kill off a healthy young adult.

It already has killed off some healthy young adults.

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#453 MirkoS77
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@eoten: no, that will be Trump when the child will actually have to abide rules or have his mic muted by adults when it’s not his turn.

He has C-19, remember? I know that doesn’t mean much to you and other Trumpsters, but others aren’t so cavalier in the face of something that’s killed 210K Americans.

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@MirkoS77 said:

@eoten: no, that will be Trump when the child will actually have to abide rules or have his mic muted by adults when it’s not his turn.

He has C-19, remember? I know that doesn’t mean much to you and other Trumpsters, but others aren’t so cavalier in the face of something that’s killed 210K Americans.

So? Next debate is 9 days away, plenty of time to fully recover and no longer be contagious.

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#455 deactivated-5fab1400b2fcc
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@eoten: You have got to be joking. Are you for real?

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#456 Eoten
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@eoten: You have got to be joking. Are you for real?

You're not going to tell me that now you disagree with "the science." Are you?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/end-home-isolation.html

I think or know I had COVID-19, and I had symptoms

You can be around others after:

  • 10 days since symptoms first appeared and
  • 24 hours with no fever without the use of fever-reducing medications and
  • Other symptoms of COVID-19 are improving*

*Loss of taste and smell may persist for weeks or months after recovery and need not delay the end of isolation​

Most people do not require testing to decide when they can be around others; however, if your healthcare provider recommends testing, they will let you know when you can resume being around others based on your test results.

Note that these recommendations do not apply to persons with severe COVID-19 or with severely weakened immune systems (immunocompromised). These persons should follow the guidance below for “I was severely ill with COVID-19 or have a severely weakened immune system (immunocompromised) due to a health condition or medication. When can I be around others?”

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'It's insane': White House staffers are mad about Trump's diagnosis and terrified now that he's back from the hospital while still infected, reports say

Fucking insane.

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#458  Edited By MirkoS77
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@eoten said:
@MirkoS77 said:

@eoten: no, that will be Trump when the child will actually have to abide rules or have his mic muted by adults when it’s not his turn.

He has C-19, remember? I know that doesn’t mean much to you and other Trumpsters, but others aren’t so cavalier in the face of something that’s killed 210K Americans.

So? Next debate is 9 days away, plenty of time to fully recover and no longer be contagious.

"Most people with coronavirus who have symptoms will no longer be contagious by 10 days after symptoms resolve. People who test positive for the virus but never develop symptoms over the following 10 days after testing are probably no longer contagious, but again there are documented exceptions."

Link.

Ten days aftersymptoms resolve. Given that Trump has been having symptoms very recently, and is more than likely still symptomatic, it's cutting it close and is irresponsible. But that's Trump for you, look at the state of the White House. People dropping like flies with COVID.

New symptoms could easily flare back up, this virus is notorious for coming back in later stages when the person's condition deteriorates rapidly after they appear to be doing well.

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'It's insane': White House staffers are mad about Trump's diagnosis and terrified now that he's back from the hospital while still infected, reports say

Fucking insane.

Any credible sources? Or just "reports say?"

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#461 Eoten
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@eoten: Mirko already shot you down.

I gave the CDC guidelines, but it doesn't matter as doctors said he was over his symptoms before he left. Which would still make the debate 10 days after symptoms subsiding if you're going with that report, and more than 10 days after they began if you go with the CDC's. So, Trump's just fine for the debate no matter which information you choose to follow.

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#462  Edited By deactivated-5fab1400b2fcc
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@eoten: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/white-house-staff-scared-after-trumps-return-with-coronavirus-axios-2020-10%3Famp

Lol.

And Mirko shot you down on the other one.

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#463 Eoten
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@thegreatchomp said:

@eoten: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/white-house-staff-scared-after-trumps-return-with-coronavirus-axios-2020-10%3Famp

Lol.

And Mirko shot you down on the other one.


Are you daft? I asked if there was anything other than anonymous sources. That doesn't name a single source. It lists "white house staff members" and "a white house source said."

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@eoten said:
@thegreatchomp said:

@eoten: Mirko already shot you down.

Trump's just fine for the debate no matter which information you choose to follow.

I hope he does it. The last debate hurt his chances a lot.

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@eoten: Now you are personally attacking? Getting a little desperate? What do you want? Names? You know they won’t give out names on fear. Jeez man.

Mirko used medical information, you purposely twisted reports to suit you.

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@eoten: Now you are personally attacking? Getting a little desperate? What do you want? Names? You know they won’t give out names on fear. Jeez man.

Or, there are no sources, some "reporter" pulled a story out of their asses, and cited a random group of people so people like you won't hold them responsible when the story turns out to be bogus. Lmfao, remember when you people thought Trump said soldiers were losers? That was a good one.

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‘Epidemiologists just wanna vomit’: Doctors disturbed after Trump removes his mask at the White House

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/06/trump-coronavirus-mask-doctors/

Sigh. Anti-Science party.

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@eoten: You already know why names won’t be given, not that it would matter if they did. You would still call it fake news. Remember when you took cdc guidelines out of context to suit you? That was a good one.

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#469  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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so I heard trump got some amazing cocktail of advanced drugs, some even experimental which reduces his high risk situation to a 97% survival rate lol. No wonder hes out there in the white house again.

The question is whether or not normal people would also be eligible for this kind of treatment for covid.

Trump needs to get kicked out pronto, this is just craziness, hes taken things too far. Its a shame they can't move up the election 2 weeks.

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#470 Eoten
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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

so I heard trump got some amazing cocktail of advanced drugs, some even experimental which reduces his high risk situation to a 97% survival rate lol. No wonder hes out there in the white house again.

The question is whether or not normal people would also be eligible for this kind of treatment for covid.

Trump needs to get kicked out pronto, this is just craziness, hes taken things too far. Its a shame they can't move up the election 2 weeks.

Yeah, the kind of stuff that wouldn't even exist as a treatment for this without eliminating a lot of the red tape. The same reasons we now have multiple vaccines in the human trial phase years earlier than we would have normally. Trump has done a lot to fast track cures and vaccines.

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@eoten said:
Trump has done a lot to fast track cures and vaccines.

By being a total failure at managing the pandemic?

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@eoten: Trump has done nothing. You should thank private business.

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@eoten: Trump has done nothing. You should thank private business.

Private business that was being strangled by regulations that were lifted to expedite cures and vaccines. Cures that seem to be working, and multiple vaccines that look promising coming out a couple years prior than we were told they'd be available.

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@eoten: HAHAHA!!!! You just can’t admit defeat on anything can you? All this speed did was fast track treatments before they were even ready. HAHA!

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@eoten: HAHAHA!!!! You just can’t admit defeat on anything can you? All this speed did was fast track treatments before they were even ready. HAHA!

He makes excuses at every turn. Trump said the vaccine would be out much sooner than it actually will be, what is he going on about. It's the exact opposite.

The corona response was a disaster according to almost every expert.

This is as bad as climate denial, mask denial, and flat earthers. I actually think he was the first two in previous threads.

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@eoten: HAHAHA!!!! You just can’t admit defeat on anything can you? All this speed did was fast track treatments before they were even ready. HAHA!

Really? Nobody has claimed any of the vaccines aren't ready. The companies producing them aren't putting their reputations on the line for it. And nothing in the process of creating the vaccine itself, has changed. These companies just don't have to wait many months for the green light from the feds to continue on to the next step.

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Trump says U.S. could start distributing a coronavirus vaccine in October, contradicting CDC’s timeline

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Trump says U.S. could start distributing a coronavirus vaccine in October, contradicting CDC’s timeline

CDC isn't developing the vaccine. What do you have against a vaccine coming out this month or next, and start saving lives now rather than 1-2 more years as per the red-tape guidelines? No one will be forcing you to take it if you're against it.

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in a surprise to no one, stephen miller has covid.

i feel sorry for those virus particles...

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@eoten said:
@zaryia said:

Trump says U.S. could start distributing a coronavirus vaccine in October, contradicting CDC’s timeline

CDC isn't developing the vaccine. What do you have against a vaccine coming out this month or next, and start saving lives now rather than 1-2 more years as per the red-tape guidelines? No one will be forcing you to take it if you're against it.

The CDC also outlined a sweeping plan Wednesday to make vaccines for Covid-19 free to all Americans. In the plan, the CDC said it anticipates a coronavirus vaccine will initially be granted an emergency use authorization before a full formal approval.

Trump said Redfield was mistaken when he said the vaccine wouldn’t be widely available to the general public until next summer or early fall.

He was wrong. As usual.

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@tenaka2 said:
@eoten said:
Trump has done a lot to fast track cures and vaccines.

By being a total failure at managing the pandemic?

he ordered a national stockpile of clorox and needles be created.

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@zaryia said:
@eoten said:
@zaryia said:

Trump says U.S. could start distributing a coronavirus vaccine in October, contradicting CDC’s timeline

CDC isn't developing the vaccine. What do you have against a vaccine coming out this month or next, and start saving lives now rather than 1-2 more years as per the red-tape guidelines? No one will be forcing you to take it if you're against it.

The CDC also outlined a sweeping plan Wednesday to make vaccines for Covid-19 free to all Americans. In the plan, the CDC said it anticipates a coronavirus vaccine will initially be granted an emergency use authorization before a full formal approval.

Trump said Redfield was mistaken when he said the vaccine wouldn’t be widely available to the general public until next summer or early fall.

He was wrong. As usual.

Again, you have issues with reading comprehension. CDC isn't developing the vaccines. It's companies like Johnson & Johnson, Novavax, Moderna, and Pfizer that are developing them. And the funding, and reduction of red tape as part of Operation Warp Speed is why we're talking about vaccines reaching the American public this month or next, not in 2022 or 2023 as would be the case if the left was in charge of this.

Good god, you'd think vaccines and a complete end to Covid-19 by this fall would be good news, but holy shit not if Trump gets credit for it.

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@eoten said:

Again, you have issues with reading comprehension. CDC isn't developing the vaccines.

Straw-man. I never said CDC is developing a vaccine. I'm just showing you an instance of Trump being yet again on the Vaccine time table.

Trump says U.S. could start distributing a coronavirus vaccine in October, contradicting CDC’s timeline

The CDC also outlined a sweeping plan Wednesday to make vaccines for Covid-19 free to all Americans. In the plan, the CDC said it anticipates a coronavirus vaccine will initially be granted an emergency use authorization before a full formal approval.

Trump said Redfield was mistaken when he said the vaccine wouldn’t be widely available to the general public until next summer or early fall.

Nothing you ever say will make Trump correct in that instance. Never. He should stop making shit up.

You agree he was wrong right?

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@zaryia said:
@eoten said:

Again, you have issues with reading comprehension. CDC isn't developing the vaccines.

Straw-man. I never said CDC is developing a vaccine. I'm just showing you an instance of Trump being yet again on the Vaccine time table.

Trump says U.S. could start distributing a coronavirus vaccine in October, contradicting CDC’s timeline

The CDC also outlined a sweeping plan Wednesday to make vaccines for Covid-19 free to all Americans. In the plan, the CDC said it anticipates a coronavirus vaccine will initially be granted an emergency use authorization before a full formal approval.

Trump said Redfield was mistaken when he said the vaccine wouldn’t be widely available to the general public until next summer or early fall.

Nothing you ever say will make Trump correct in that instance. Never. He should stop making shit up.

You agree he was wrong right?

I never said you said CDC was developing one. But you said the CDC has it's own timeline. The timeline is largely determined by the people actually developing it. If the companies making the vaccines are ready to go in October, and the scientists working with the FDA on Operation Lightspeed approve it, it'll be distributed in October. And so far the top 3 candidates have all proven to be no less safe than a shot for common flu.

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@eoten said:
@zaryia said:
@eoten said:

Again, you have issues with reading comprehension. CDC isn't developing the vaccines.

Straw-man. I never said CDC is developing a vaccine. I'm just showing you an instance of Trump being yet again on the Vaccine time table.

Trump says U.S. could start distributing a coronavirus vaccine in October, contradicting CDC’s timeline

The CDC also outlined a sweeping plan Wednesday to make vaccines for Covid-19 free to all Americans. In the plan, the CDC said it anticipates a coronavirus vaccine will initially be granted an emergency use authorization before a full formal approval.

Trump said Redfield was mistaken when he said the vaccine wouldn’t be widely available to the general public until next summer or early fall.

Nothing you ever say will make Trump correct in that instance. Never. He should stop making shit up.

You agree he was wrong right?

I never said you said CDC was developing one. But you said the CDC has it's own timeline. The timeline is largely determined by the people actually developing it. If the companies making the vaccines are ready to go in October, and the scientists working with the FDA on Operation Lightspeed approve it, it'll be distributed in October. And so far the top 3 candidates have all proven to be no less safe than a shot for common flu.

The link said that, because it was quoting Redfield. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/16/us-outlines-sweeping-plan-to-provide-free-covid-19-vaccines-.html as well.

Trump is usually wrong on covid-19 matters. This is on the record.

Trump says CDC director "made a mistake" when he said vaccine won't be widely available until at least summer 2021

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-contradicts-cdc-director-covid-19-vaccine-masks/

There he is being wrong on the vaccine again,

Why it’s still unlikely we’ll have a Covid-19 vaccine before Election Day

https://www.vox.com/2020/9/30/21495092/2020-debate-coronavirus-vaccine-covid-19-election-trump-biden-fact-check

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Weird how developing a vaccine goes faster as many of the methods used to develop one has developed as well... Damn that sentence got weird.

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@horgen: They still have phases and trials to go through. Shouldn’t be rushed, can’t have the vaccine worse than the virus.

Funny thing is millions of Trump supporters wouldn’t take the vaccine anyway. Might get chipped.

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@horgen: They still have phases and trials to go through. Shouldn’t be rushed, can’t have the vaccine worse than the virus.

Funny thing is millions of Trump supporters wouldn’t take the vaccine anyway. Might get chipped.

My post was mostly meant ironic.

Yeah the trials and phases will still take time, but it doesn't take years of testing before bigger trials begins.

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@horgen: Yeah, you can go to phrase 3 rather fast. Depends on phase 2.

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#491 horgen  Moderator
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Also why is Trump who previously was against vaccines now pro vaccines? Doesn’t he worry about people getting autism from it?

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@horgen: Worse, they become Democrats