2022 Midterms Election Thread: GOP wins narrow House majority, Democrats hold the Senate. Red Wave fails to materialize.

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#1  Edited By Master_Live
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Talking time is over, time to put up or shut up. The only poll that counts is today's. But I won't let that deter me from showing you 538's model forecast.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/house/?cid=rrpromo

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/senate/?cid=rrpromo

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#2 Master_Live
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So are you ready to elect some election deniers or what?

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#3  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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I like to be optimistic. Warnock and Ossoff won in special elections where turnout normally wouldn't be that great. Under the right circumstances, and I think those circumstances are present now, dems can win if Warnock can pull a win over Walker but I'm more amaze this race is tight between the two.

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Gotta vote out the Democrats. They are doing a horrible job.

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I think it's fair to say democrats are going down in both houses. I hope I'm wrong, but.....

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Don't really have any predictions or expectations race wise (don't really care either), but fully expect election shenanigans to dominate the news cycle for months...Which will undoubtedly start the next snowball of presidential 2024 shenanigans. Either way, the election cycles are tiring and I can't wait for my friggin' mailbox to stop being spammed with so much crap. With me being registered as a Republican, and my wife a Democrat, I feel like they double the spam mail to our house.

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#7  Edited By Eoten
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I expect a fair bit of the media over the next month will be working overtime trying to spin a big loss into a positive for them. And they've already been whining about election integrity, they'll definitely ramp that up after the big L.

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If republicans win this election will be considered fair.

Except for the seats they did not win...

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#9  Edited By KathaarianCode
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There's no way Republicans don't win, they might as well close shop if they don't. It's just unfortunate that they'll elect some borderline mentally challenged candidates. If it wasn't for that there would be a much more decisive win.

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@Stevo_the_gamer: I'm not a registered Republican. But I'm a Trump fan, my wife is a registered Democrat. How do you guys manage talking about these things lol?? Like I have no issue with her voting for her Democrats, she's her own person and can vote however she wants. Her big thing is mental health, my big thing is the economy. But I swear she comes at me sometimes anytime politics gets brought up lol. Just rare I hear from other people in relationships with differed politics. We get along great and then on these election days we just kind of avoid the conversation.

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Later tonight we will finally be done with all of the nonsensical political ads bombarding every piece of media, cell phones, etc..,? Each year or so when it looks as if it can't get any worse, it does.

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@sargentd: Horrible job? 10.5 million new jobs, better GDP growth than Trump or Obama, the largest wage growth for the bottom and middle America in 50 years, with the highest corporate profits on a decade? That's a bad job to you? 🤣

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@Solaryellow said:

Later tonight we will finally be done with all of the nonsensical political ads bombarding every piece of media, cell phones, etc..,? Each year or so when it looks as if it can't get any worse, it does.

Yes the Oz ads made it hard to watch Penguin games.

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@tjandmia: that sounds good if you ignore record breaking inflation lmao

You are delusional if you think the economy is great.

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@tjandmia: that sounds good if you ignore record breaking inflation lmao

You are delusional if you think the economy is great.

Just curious but what are you expecting the Republicans to do about inflation if they win? It's being created by external factors and corporate greed. Please explain the Republican plan for both.

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@sargentd: Inflation it's a GLOBAL ISSUES, and despite it, Democrats have created 10.5 jobs, raised wages, and have higher GDP growth than under trump. **** your feelings. The numbers speak the truth.

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#18 Master_Live
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That Tapper tie looks quite dashing.

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#19  Edited By SargentD
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@Master_Live: Rand Paul is my favorite. Wanted him to be president. Hope Trump picks him as VP 2024.

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#21 Eoten
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Hah, even a seat in Guam went red. Holy crap dems are getting SLAUGHTERED.

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#22  Edited By Eoten
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@Vaasman said:
@sargentd said:

@tjandmia: that sounds good if you ignore record breaking inflation lmao

You are delusional if you think the economy is great.

Just curious but what are you expecting the Republicans to do about inflation if they win? It's being created by external factors and corporate greed. Please explain the Republican plan for both.

Yeah sure, corporate greed which has been a constant in commerce for hundreds of years is suddenly responsible for the very recent massive spike in inflation and not policies that have damaged supply chains or flooded the market with trillions of dollars. Yeah, sure, corporate greed's to blame. Get our torches and pitchforks and let's go burn down another pharmacy!

Thankfully, the American voter isn't buying that BS.

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#23  Edited By Vaasman
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@eoten said:
@Vaasman said:

Just curious but what are you expecting the Republicans to do about inflation if they win? It's being created by external factors and corporate greed. Please explain the Republican plan for both.

Yeah sure, corporate greed which has been a constant in commerce for hundreds of years is suddenly responsible for the very recent massive spike in inflation and not policies that have damaged supply chains or flooded the market with trillions of dollars. Yeah, sure, corporate greed's to blame. Get our torches and pitchforks and let's go burn down another pharmacy!

Thankfully, the American voter isn't buying that BS.

Pretty sure I didn't ask you, but it's easily provable that price hikes on certain goods did not match the inflation rate or supply chain needs, and exacerbated the issue by extension. Not to mention that doesn't even answer my question. Why are you such a garbage posting farmbot?

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I'm honestly kind of tired of it at this point.

Outside of me doing research on specific people, there is no real unified plan to fix any of our larger-picture problems right now. Not that things are exactly terrible, it's just inflation and frankly there are so many factors to that outside our control I'm not really sure about that even.

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

Don't really have any predictions or expectations race wise (don't really care either), but fully expect election shenanigans to dominate the news cycle for months...Which will undoubtedly start the next snowball of presidential 2024 shenanigans. Either way, the election cycles are tiring and I can't wait for my friggin' mailbox to stop being spammed with so much crap. With me being registered as a Republican, and my wife a Democrat, I feel like they double the spam mail to our house.

Yeah. The text messages are also annoying.

Need laws for election cycle length, both for midterms and presidential and everything. I think one month is enough. Most of us already know who we are voting for anyway.

I feel like we've been hearing about this stuff for like 3+ months just in relation to midterms.

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#25 Eoten
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@Vaasman said:
@eoten said:
@Vaasman said:

Just curious but what are you expecting the Republicans to do about inflation if they win? It's being created by external factors and corporate greed. Please explain the Republican plan for both.

Yeah sure, corporate greed which has been a constant in commerce for hundreds of years is suddenly responsible for the very recent massive spike in inflation and not policies that have damaged supply chains or flooded the market with trillions of dollars. Yeah, sure, corporate greed's to blame. Get our torches and pitchforks and let's go burn down another pharmacy!

Thankfully, the American voter isn't buying that BS.

Pretty sure I didn't ask you, but it's easily provable that price hikes on certain goods did not match the inflation rate or supply chain needs, and exacerbated the issue by extension. Not to mention that doesn't even answer my question. Why are you such a garbage posting farmbot?

Posting the holes in your "it's corporate greed" fallacy is not being a "garbage posting farmbot." But blaming "corporate greed" which has been a constant for hundreds of years on a current trend lasting only a couple is much closer to "garbage posting farmbot" activity.

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fl elected a qanon stripper...

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#27  Edited By SargentD
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@firedrakes: Democrats probably paid for her campaign ads

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Looks like dems already got busted with election interfering in one state with poll workers encouraging people to vote Democrat, and Pennsylvania "ran out of paper" for ballots. Aren't they supposed to know how many registered voters there are in their county? How do they run out?

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@eoten said:

Looks like dems already got busted with election interfering in one state with poll workers encouraging people to vote Democrat, and Pennsylvania "ran out of paper" for ballots. Aren't they supposed to know how many registered voters there are in their county? How do they run out?

Looks like there's already excuses why the red wave became a watergun spritzing

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@eoten: Record corporate profits tell us corporate greed is a large part of inflation. What are these policies that caused supply chain issues, issues that began in the first quarter of 2020?

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Landsman projected to upset Chabot in Ohio 1.

I've done my part.

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@tjandmia said:

@eoten: Record corporate profits tell us corporate greed is a large part of inflation. What are these policies that caused supply chain issues, issues that began in the first quarter of 2020?

No, it doesn't. Automation alone results in higher corporate profits. Reduction of costs in materials lead to higher profits. Do you even know the basics of how a business works?

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@eoten said:
@tjandmia said:

@eoten: Record corporate profits tell us corporate greed is a large part of inflation. What are these policies that caused supply chain issues, issues that began in the first quarter of 2020?

No, it doesn't. Automation alone results in higher corporate profits. Reduction of costs in materials lead to higher profits. Do you even know the basics of how a business works?

You think there has been a reduction of materials for business? Lol. What happened to inflation? 10.5 million new jobs have been created in less than 2 years. Automation has done nothing. Sorry, but we're seeing a strong economy with average 477k new jobs per month. The economy is red hot.

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@tjandmia: it's jobs we closed down during covid that come back when we stopped doing ridiculous lockdowns

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Shapiro of all people putting the cherry on top of this night. LOL! So much for that shellacking

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So much for that massive red wave. 😂

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#38  Edited By mrbojangles25
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Looks like Oz lost, Fetterman won. Thank god. And Boebert looks like she lost. It's late so maybe the official count is in idunno.

The lesson here is this: don't **** with dogs. You kill dogs, you lose the vote

@BenjaminBanklin said:

Shapiro of all people putting the cherry on top of this night. LOL! So much for that shellacking

"Red wave to red wedding."

This might be the first time I've ever chuckled and enjoyed something Shapiro has said. Then I heard his voice in my head and I didn't like it anymore.

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How did fetterman win lol. That debate was awful. I guess it really doesn't matter who runs anymore. And I'll say the same thing if H Walker wins.

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@joshrmeyer said:

How did fetterman win lol. That debate was awful. I guess it really doesn't matter who runs anymore. And I'll say the same thing if H Walker wins.

It doesn't anymore. People vote based on partisanship now because of the reputation of both parties. Social media has also made voters more misinformed.

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Keep backing Trump and the only red wave you'll have is from the party bleeding. And this is against a Biden's presidency. lmao

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@joshrmeyer said:

How did fetterman win lol. That debate was awful. I guess it really doesn't matter who runs anymore. And I'll say the same thing if H Walker wins.

That is a good question. The debate sure was awful.

My hunch is due to a change of spread of information. People gain access to political info a lot more easily these days with the internet and social media (disinformaton as well), Debates are no longer as decisive as they used to be, and fulfill more of a role of affirmation rather than information. Of course, I am no sociologist, so take my word with a grain of salt. But still, I just wanted to say... good question.

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@joshrmeyer said:

How did fetterman win lol. That debate was awful. I guess it really doesn't matter who runs anymore. And I'll say the same thing if H Walker wins.

I think this speaks more of how disliked Oz is.

Also that debate was minutes out of a months-long campaign where Fetterman just destroyed Oz for most of it. I think it's easy to write off the debate performance; dude had a stroke, end of story.

@Maroxad said:
@joshrmeyer said:

How did fetterman win lol. That debate was awful. I guess it really doesn't matter who runs anymore. And I'll say the same thing if H Walker wins.

That is a good question. The debate sure was awful.

My hunch is due to a change of spread of information. People gain access to political info a lot more easily these days with the internet and social media (disinformaton as well), Debates are no longer as decisive as they used to be, and fulfill more of a role of affirmation rather than information. Of course, I am no sociologist, so take my word with a grain of salt. But still, I just wanted to say... good question.

Also Oz tortured dogs. It might just be as simple as that 😋

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@mrbojangles25 said:

Looks like Oz lost, Fetterman won. Thank god. And Boebert looks like she lost. It's late so maybe the official count is in idunno.

The lesson here is this: don't **** with dogs. You kill dogs, you lose the vote

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Shapiro of all people putting the cherry on top of this night. LOL! So much for that shellacking

"Red wave to red wedding."

This might be the first time I've ever chuckled and enjoyed something Shapiro has said. Then I heard his voice in my head and I didn't like it anymore.

thank god boebart lost... am still shock mtg one thru.. i would never ever trust her with the nukes.

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@firedrakes said:
@mrbojangles25 said:

Looks like Oz lost, Fetterman won. Thank god. And Boebert looks like she lost. It's late so maybe the official count is in idunno.

The lesson here is this: don't **** with dogs. You kill dogs, you lose the vote

@BenjaminBanklin said:

Shapiro of all people putting the cherry on top of this night. LOL! So much for that shellacking

"Red wave to red wedding."

This might be the first time I've ever chuckled and enjoyed something Shapiro has said. Then I heard his voice in my head and I didn't like it anymore.

thank god boebart lost... am still shock mtg one thru.. i would never ever trust her with the nukes.

I wouldn't read too much into MTG. There was no chance there I think, her district is just awful.

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So with Republicans winning the house that means the "Trump was innocent" arguments are coming because Republicans in the house will have dissolved the January 6 investigations. Just a heads up.

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#48  Edited By tjandmia
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@sargentd said:

@tjandmia: it's jobs we closed down during covid that come back when we stopped doing ridiculous lockdowns

Wrong. Most lockdowns ended by mid 2020. When Trump left office, there were 3 million fewer people working than when he took office, plus he left office with a recession. Biden has seen 10.5 million new jobs. Sorry, but you can't weasel your way out of it with dumb talking points.

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DeSantis' performance is encouraging, but overall, disappointing performance for the R's.

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@Serraph105: I'm more concerned with whether they go through with their default ultimatum.