Valve PS3 'a waste of time'

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#51 Zeke129
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Some people are also forgetting that he hates the 360 for it's unreliability. It was in an old interview, I'll try to dig it up.
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#52 b11051973
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I can see his point with the Cell. Sony comes out with this CPU that is nothing like your typical processor. So, a PC company like Valve will have a hard time porting the game to the PS3. It was easy for the 360 since it has a development platform just like for the PC.

Even people that aren't porting are having a hard time. They have to learn this whole new architecture just to build games for this one system. If Sony had just used a more standard multi-core CPU, everything would be peachy.

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#53 EnderSR388
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I can see his point with the Cell. Sony comes out with this CPU that is nothing like your typical processor. So, a PC company like Valve will have a hard time porting the game to the PS3. It was easy for the 360 since it has a development platform just like for the PC.

Even people that aren't porting are having a hard time. They have to learn this whole new architecture just to build games for this one system. If Sony had just used a more standard multi-core CPU, everything would be peachy.

b11051973

Exactly! It's a lateral transition with the 360 and PC. It's easier to port then it is to build from scratch, which is why the Cell processor gives him trouble. Yet Kojima-san can wield it like a katana (MGS4 will be amazing!)? Hmm, laziness?

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#54 FireFalkon
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The problem of the ps3 is that it's architecture is much more diferent than pc's architecture while the 360 is almost the same as the pc. This means that it's way easier to put a pc game on the 360 than on ps3. But the original xbox also had a pc-like architecture and yet most developers prefered to develop for ps2, it all comes down to the userbase then, and ps3's userbase is still too small...
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#55 RahKayne
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http://ps2.boomtown.net/en_uk/articles/art.view.php?id=15020jasonen

Guys you are aking this too seriously. He is talking about the technology used in the PS3 is a waste of time. The PS3 is a good piece of machinery, however the cell processor he says is useless cause it won't take off. He's not saying that it's crap or not powerful at all.

360 fanboys leave.

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#56 carljohnson3456
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Blah. I dont care what he thinks.
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#57 jasonen
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[QUOTE="jasonen"]http://ps2.boomtown.net/en_uk/articles/art.view.php?id=15020RahKayne

Guys you are aking this too seriously. He is talking about the technology used in the PS3 is a waste of time. The PS3 is a good piece of machinery, however the cell processor he says is useless cause it won't take off. He's not saying that it's crap or not powerful at all.

360 fanboys leave.

who you calling 360 fanboys? just to let you know I just got my 60GB ps3 today and I love it! I stored my 360 inside the original retail box with 9 games so I can post it on ebay. I just posted about this article so I can read what you guys thought. What I think? valve is lazy fat basterds want to port a game without having to work. If you make a multi-platform game and get double the money you better work!
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#58 Flame_Blade88
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Yeah, I'm sure people are listening to that fat mess alright :roll:

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#59 mariokart64fan
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i like all my systems nes snes n64 gc wii gb gbc gba gbasp ds gbm dslite ps1 ps2 ps3 psp dc genesis xbox and xbox 360 also this brand new vista pc i got
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#60 bunchofpixels
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He makes a good and valid point. Sony should have made the PS3 more developer friendly. That being said, I have a PS3 so hopefully the games continue to roll in. The delay in multiplatform games to the PS3 is disappointing.
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#61 cf2012
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Yeah, I'm sure people are listening to that fat mess alright :roll:

Flame_Blade88

Another fat lazy dev making excuses. He could be that fat guy in the south park World of warcraft episode.

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#62 jay_k3
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The PS3 is awesome. This is coming from a guy who owns a 360. I play my friends PS3 all the time, and I love it. I can't wait to get my own. Sometimes I play his PS3 more than I play my 360. I love my 360 and I think its an awesome console too, but the PS3 is a great system with some fun games. I don't know why articles like this continue to appear. Personally I don't care for these negative opinions on the 360 or the PS3. With personal experience I believe both consoles are great, and I enjoy playing both. If I was a PS3 owner I would just ignore these stupid articles and enjoy playing a great system. I'm pretty sure a lot of you guys would agree.
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#63 americahellyeah
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VALVE IS A WASTE OF TIME!!! :evil:

obviously they are just plain lazy if they can't figure out the PS3, of all the companies out there i figured that Valve would actually be able to appreciate the PS3, well that **** sucker can fry for all i care.

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#64 americahellyeah
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[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"]

Yeah, I'm sure people are listening to that fat mess alright :roll:

cf2012

Another fat lazy dev making excuses. He could be that fat guy in the south park World of warcraft episode.

ROFLCOPTER, wow, thats just... wow! he seriously looks like the guy from the WOW southpark ep.

lol "but how can you kill that which has no life?"

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[QUOTE="jasonen"]http://ps2.boomtown.net/en_uk/articles/art.view.php?id=15020RahKayne

Guys you are aking this too seriously. He is talking about the technology used in the PS3 is a waste of time. The PS3 is a good piece of machinery, however the cell processor he says is useless cause it won't take off. He's not saying that it's crap or not powerful at all.

360 fanboys leave.

No. He's ranting against multi-core, multi-spu technology. He said the same thing about the 360 before (multi-core). He's a PC/Windows-only dev. And has always been. Gabe Newell: DirectX 10 for Vista was a mistake: http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/94869 Gabe Newell Explains Why Valve HATES the Mac: http://kotaku.com/gaming/player-hater/gabe-newell-explains-why-valve-hates-the-mac-304730.php Newell: Half-Life 2 on Xbox Was a Disappointment http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=12243 Gabe Newell: Xbox 360 Makes My Life Worse http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/9103/Gabe-Newell-Xbox-360-Makes-My-Life-Worse/ Valve's head honcho and former Microsoft employee isn't happy Gabe hates anything thing not XP/WIndow related. He hates Mac, hates Linux, and hates PS3.
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[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"]

Yeah, I'm sure people are listening to that fat mess alright :roll:

cf2012

Another fat lazy dev making excuses. He could be that fat guy in the south park World of warcraft episode.

I'm diggin' his hair.

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#69 NeCromX
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You know, being a new PS3 owner, this is the kind of crap that pisses me off!! I own a 360 (which died last week BTW, thanks MS. It's on it's way back!) and I own a PC (a very nice PC at that) and I think it's bad business to pick sides when you're a 3rd party developer. I mean now Sony fans are going to think twice about buying products from Valve since Gabe openly admits that the PS3 is inferior to the 360 and PC. The PS3 has a lot of potential that has not been explored or exploited. And it's not fair to judge any system from it's first year games. Remember Gears of War didn't come out until almost a year after the 360 launched. I can't wait for 2008, the PS3 will finally get the respect it deserves. I'm proud to own a PS3, but I'm also proud to own a 360 (when it gets back in mid November :() and a PC. I'm a gamer and that's what it's about!

I need help getting down off my soap box now! :D

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Exactly I used to play nothing but games I bought on steam on my PC I have all the HalfLife and Halflife 2 series and their mods and now I'm never going to buy anything from Steam/Valve again. Waaaa it's hard to do but yet evey other developer has figure it out now. The PS3 is closing in on CrapBox's sales and we're just going to be stuborn.  IBM has put alot of money into the Cell not just Sony IBMs newer servers use the CELL it's not going anywhere Devs have to get used to it that more and more CPUs will be built in this fashion.  Valve you lost a customer I'm never buying another game through steam again.

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#70 thegame1980
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He's got a point. As an owner of both consoles I weigh my options and usually end up playing my 360 more. Multiplats are GARUNTEED to be played on 360. When I have money and I'm looking to buy a game I end up getting one for 360 because I don't really enjoy playing the PS3 and look at it as "a waste of time"
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#71 DJ_Lae
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Holy time warp, Batman.
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#72 Rakuho
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who revived a year old topic? SHAME.... ON.... YOU! :P
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#73 sa10kun
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WTF?!
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#74 blackldragon
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WTF?!sa10kun

What the hell did you just make me watch.

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#75 Floppy_Jim
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I doubt the PS3 community really care what this fat ball of grease thinks.
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#76 jt4mtb
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WTF?!sa10kun

ah hahaha, good ol' c-lassic Rocky Horror Picture Show.

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#77 jerkface96
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Gabe Newell is lazy, i mean take a look at the guy, and you could tell he wouldnt want to break any sweat figuring out the ps3's technology, so he just bashes it instead, i hate that guy
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#78 Mau-Justice
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Whatever, Valves awesome.

They are like Rockstar/Capcom to me, they can do no wrong. I'll buy whatever they are willing to release.