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#1 jw_burrell
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So here's what I think ----- "Raiden" is Japanese for "thunder and lightning". The teaser site contains little more than just that --- THUNDER and LIGHTNING. I honestly believe the announcement will be a new MGS game featuring Raiden as the protagonist.

Thoughts???

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#2 Dark-Star13
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There are dozens of threds about this, and the others have much more info......

P.S. I think it will be Grey Fox, look at the far left side of the image in the trees there is a dark line with a circle in the middle, like Grey Fox's eye.

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Wow, I do believe your the first to come to that assumption! I personally think it may have something to do with Konami's recently announced, and very little detailed game Tornado Outbreak.
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#4 jw_burrell
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my bad. i hadn't heard anyone else bring up the thunder and lightning thing. i would love it if it were grey fox. he's one of my favorite characters. i see what you're saying with the image in the trees. kinda hard to make out though.

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#5 TriangleHard
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I really hope this game has nothing to do with MGS.

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#6 raven_squad
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I really hope this game has nothing to do with MGS.

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As much as it pains me to say it (love the MGS franchise very much) I agree. I wan't something new.
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#7 jw_burrell
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[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]

I really hope this game has nothing to do with MGS.

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As much as it pains me to say it (love the MGS franchise very much) I agree. I wan't something new.

i would love something fresh and new. especially if it's at the level of something like MGS. but what are the chances of that?
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#8 TriangleHard
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="TriangleHard"]

I really hope this game has nothing to do with MGS.

jw_burrell

As much as it pains me to say it (love the MGS franchise very much) I agree. I wan't something new.

i would love something fresh and new. especially if it's at the level of something like MGS. but what are the chances of that?

Pretty high? Considering Konami now has the budget to work with and having another franchise to post under their company name will do great things for their stocks.

Having IP to sell is important. No matter how many MGS they make, MGS is still only one franchise. The value of the franchise might get better with more games, but excessive production of same name can lower the value.

If Konami makes another MGS instead of choosing new IP, I say it would be a buisness mistake.

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#9 jw_burrell
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[QUOTE="jw_burrell"][QUOTE="raven_squad"]As much as it pains me to say it (love the MGS franchise very much) I agree. I wan't something new. TriangleHard

i would love something fresh and new. especially if it's at the level of something like MGS. but what are the chances of that?

Pretty high? Considering Konami now has the budget to work with and having another franchise to post under their company name will do great things for their stocks.

Having IP to sell is important. No matter how many MGS they make, MGS is still only one franchise. The value of the franchise might get better with more games, but excessive production of same name can lower the value.

If Konami makes another MGS instead of choosing new IP, I say it would be a buisness mistake.

i would venture to say that another MGS game would outsell ANY other game konami decides to put out. sure, if the new IP catches on and becomes a new and successful franchise, then it would be a good business move. but there's no guarantee that will happen. MGS is the surest thing Konami's got.
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="TriangleHard"]

I really hope this game has nothing to do with MGS.

As much as it pains me to say it (love the MGS franchise very much) I agree. I wan't something new.

Well you could always not buy this game if it turned out to be MGS5 and buy something new, there are plenty of new IP's already out and coming out, that way everyones happy. People say that "I want something new" way too much, and when you see their game library all thier games end with 3, 4 or 2009. There are plenty of new IPs out there that people who say they want something new, just dont give a shot at all. Not saying this is specifically you, but its just an observation about people who say they want something new.
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You guys think there is any chance for a new ZOE? :(
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i hope it does have something to do with MGS, be it a sequel, remake, prequel, alternative perspective story, add on anything!!! but if not i will not be disapointed anything kojima makes is golden, and i will gladly spend $60 on anything he creates! go ahead kojima its yours... go on take it... please will you just take it! i insist... no really i insist... will you just take it and announce what your working on already!!!

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[QUOTE="Sepewrath"][QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="TriangleHard"]

I really hope this game has nothing to do with MGS.

As much as it pains me to say it (love the MGS franchise very much) I agree. I wan't something new.

Well you could always not buy this game if it turned out to be MGS5 and buy something new, there are plenty of new IP's already out and coming out, that way everyones happy. People say that "I want something new" way too much, and when you see their game library all thier games end with 3, 4 or 2009. There are plenty of new IPs out there that people who say they want something new, just dont give a shot at all. Not saying this is specifically you, but its just an observation about people who say they want something new.

Yeah, ummm...doesn't apply to me at all. By "I want something new", I mean I wan't Kojima to utilize his genius, and make a game that doesn't revolve around Metal Gear.
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#14 jw_burrell
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You guys think there is any chance for a new ZOE? :(Pvt_r3d
i'd love to see a current gen ZOE. but i find it hard to believe that a field like the one shown in the teaser has anything to do with ZOE.
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[QUOTE="Sepewrath"][QUOTE="raven_squad"]As much as it pains me to say it (love the MGS franchise very much) I agree. I wan't something new. raven_squad
Well you could always not buy this game if it turned out to be MGS5 and buy something new, there are plenty of new IP's already out and coming out, that way everyones happy. People say that "I want something new" way too much, and when you see their game library all thier games end with 3, 4 or 2009. There are plenty of new IPs out there that people who say they want something new, just dont give a shot at all. Not saying this is specifically you, but its just an observation about people who say they want something new.

Yeah, ummm...doesn't apply to me at all. By "I want something new", I mean I wan't Kojima to utilize his genius, and make a game that doesn't revolve around Metal Gear.

get outta here!
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[QUOTE="SirOWNZalot86"][QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="Sepewrath"] Well you could always not buy this game if it turned out to be MGS5 and buy something new, there are plenty of new IP's already out and coming out, that way everyones happy. People say that "I want something new" way too much, and when you see their game library all thier games end with 3, 4 or 2009. There are plenty of new IPs out there that people who say they want something new, just dont give a shot at all. Not saying this is specifically you, but its just an observation about people who say they want something new.

Yeah, ummm...doesn't apply to me at all. By "I want something new", I mean I wan't Kojima to utilize his genius, and make a game that doesn't revolve around Metal Gear.

get outta here!

lol, no?
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="SirOWNZalot86"][QUOTE="raven_squad"] Yeah, ummm...doesn't apply to me at all. By "I want something new", I mean I wan't Kojima to utilize his genius, and make a game that doesn't revolve around Metal Gear.

get outta here!

lol, no?

so your telling me if kojima releases anything having to do with MGS your not buying it? yeah right...
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#18 jw_burrell
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="SirOWNZalot86"][QUOTE="raven_squad"] Yeah, ummm...doesn't apply to me at all. By "I want something new", I mean I wan't Kojima to utilize his genius, and make a game that doesn't revolve around Metal Gear.

get outta here!

lol, no?

haha..... maybe the announcement will be that he's making both a new MGS AND a new IP... then we'd all be happy!!
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I hope Raiden stays as far away from this game as possible. The only games Kojima should be worried about are the MG1 and 2 remakes. Unless of course, it has nothing to do with MGS.

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#20 Sepewrath
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[QUOTE="Sepewrath"][QUOTE="raven_squad"]As much as it pains me to say it (love the MGS franchise very much) I agree. I wan't something new. raven_squad
Well you could always not buy this game if it turned out to be MGS5 and buy something new, there are plenty of new IP's already out and coming out, that way everyones happy. People say that "I want something new" way too much, and when you see their game library all thier games end with 3, 4 or 2009. There are plenty of new IPs out there that people who say they want something new, just dont give a shot at all. Not saying this is specifically you, but its just an observation about people who say they want something new.

Yeah, ummm...doesn't apply to me at all. By "I want something new", I mean I wan't Kojima to utilize his genius, and make a game that doesn't revolve around Metal Gear.

I knew you would say that, one there is no guarantee that he can make games on the caliber of MGS outside the series, its been awhile. Secondly alot of times when people say that, they are basically saying they want the same series with a different name. You hear this most often with long running series like this one, they want a new IP in name alone. But whatever I just want to see new MGS, whether its this game being teased or another in the future. And I would prefer to play as Raiden pre cyber ninja when he goes to save Sunny from the Patriots, there seems to be an interesting story there and campaign there.
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[QUOTE="SirOWNZalot86"] so your telling me if kojima releases anything having to do with MGS your not buying it? yeah right...

May I ask you were I stated that? I said I hope its not MGS, as I would like Kojima to work on something new. I didn't say I wouldn't enjoy it if it WAS MGS5. Beleive it or not, you don't have to be hyped for a game to enjoy it. :P [QUOTE="jw_burrell"] haha..... maybe the announcement will be that he's making both a new MGS AND a new IP... then we'd all be happy!!

That would be nice, but I don't know it Kojima could balance that.... :lol:
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#22 jw_burrell
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I hope Raiden stays as far away from this game as possible. The only games Kojima should be worried about are the MG1 and 2 remakes.

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now that would be sweet. i'd love to see the PS3 version of all that went down in Zanzibar.
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#23 WR_Platinum
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Its the obvious comment that many comment on. Raiden = thunder & lightning, Mr. Kojima wouldn't make it so obvious.

Mr. Kojima is hidng something, teasing everyone and laughing about it.

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[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="Sepewrath"] Well you could always not buy this game if it turned out to be MGS5 and buy something new, there are plenty of new IP's already out and coming out, that way everyones happy. People say that "I want something new" way too much, and when you see their game library all thier games end with 3, 4 or 2009. There are plenty of new IPs out there that people who say they want something new, just dont give a shot at all. Not saying this is specifically you, but its just an observation about people who say they want something new. Sepewrath
Yeah, ummm...doesn't apply to me at all. By "I want something new", I mean I wan't Kojima to utilize his genius, and make a game that doesn't revolve around Metal Gear.

I knew you would say that, one there is no guarantee that he can make games on the caliber of MGS outside the series, its been awhile. Secondly alot of times when people say that, they are basically saying they want the same series with a different name. You hear this most often with long running series like this one, they want a new IP in name alone. But whatever I just want to see new MGS, whether its this game being teased or another in the future. And I would prefer to play as Raiden pre cyber ninja when he goes to save Sunny from the Patriots, there seems to be an interesting story there and campaign there.

You keep equating all of these other peoples statements with my own. I don't want anything even remotely like MGS in Kojima's next project. Thats not to say I wont enjoy MGS5, or whatever this happens to be if it is affiliated with MGS, but... something NEW out of Kojima would be nice. I'm beginning to wonder if he's been tainted by the money, realizes what a cash cow franchise MGS is, and is now going to become a one trick pony.
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[QUOTE="Sepewrath"][QUOTE="raven_squad"] Yeah, ummm...doesn't apply to me at all. By "I want something new", I mean I wan't Kojima to utilize his genius, and make a game that doesn't revolve around Metal Gear.raven_squad
I knew you would say that, one there is no guarantee that he can make games on the caliber of MGS outside the series, its been awhile. Secondly alot of times when people say that, they are basically saying they want the same series with a different name. You hear this most often with long running series like this one, they want a new IP in name alone. But whatever I just want to see new MGS, whether its this game being teased or another in the future. And I would prefer to play as Raiden pre cyber ninja when he goes to save Sunny from the Patriots, there seems to be an interesting story there and campaign there.

You keep equating all of these other peoples statements with my own. I don't want anything even remotely like MGS in Kojima's next project. Thats not to say I wont enjoy MGS5, or whatever this happens to be if it is affiliated with MGS, but... something NEW out of Kojima would be nice. I'm beginning to wonder if he's been tainted by the money, realizes what a cash cow franchise MGS is, and is now going to become a one trick pony.

I didn't know Kojima is a Pony. He must be one smart pony.
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#26 Dark-Star13
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my bad. i hadn't heard anyone else bring up the thunder and lightning thing. i would love it if it were grey fox. he's one of my favorite characters. i see what you're saying with the image in the trees. kinda hard to make out though.

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It is not as hard as some of the other supposed images.

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[QUOTE="Pvt_r3d"] I didn't know Kojima is a Pony. He must be one smart pony.

Ha...Ha...Ha. :|
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You keep equating all of these other peoples statements with my own. I don't want anything even remotely like MGS in Kojima's next project. Thats not to say I wont enjoy MGS5, or whatever this happens to be if it is affiliated with MGS, but... something NEW out of Kojima would be nice. I'm beginning to wonder if he's been tainted by the money, realizes what a cash cow franchise MGS is, and is now going to become a one trick pony. raven_squad
I could swear I said in the first post that my statements are not directed at you, but I am using your statements to fuel the discussion. But Kojima is likely not a one trick pony, I don't think he is Miyamoto good, but I think to a lesser extent he could do whatever he wanted and turn it into gold. However why deny your large fanbase of what they want if they want a new MGS game, there's no reason to not do it. The money is just a massive incentive to go along with what the fans are asking of you. When your good at something and people want that talent, you deliver and everybody wins in the end.
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"] You keep equating all of these other peoples statements with my own. I don't want anything even remotely like MGS in Kojima's next project. Thats not to say I wont enjoy MGS5, or whatever this happens to be if it is affiliated with MGS, but... something NEW out of Kojima would be nice. I'm beginning to wonder if he's been tainted by the money, realizes what a cash cow franchise MGS is, and is now going to become a one trick pony. Sepewrath
I could swear I said in the first post that my statements are not directed at you, but I am using your statements to fuel the discussion. But Kojima is likely not a one trick pony, I don't think he is Miyamoto good, but I think to a lesser extent he could do whatever he wanted and turn it into gold. However why deny your large fanbase of what they want if they want a new MGS game, there's no reason to not do it. The money is just a massive incentive to go along with what the fans are asking of you. When your good at something and people want that talent, you deliver and everybody wins in the end.

Well, I must admit that the whole "I knew you would say that" bit, followed by infactual assumptions is a bit perplexing if the statements are not directed at me. :? But at any rate, theres more then 1 franchise of his I can think of that has fans waiting eagerly for a sequel that he's yet to deliver. Over 6 years now since something new in the Zone of the Enders franchise, and if he put half as much effort into it as he does into MGS, could be another console selling, heavy hitting title for the PS3.
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#30 WR_Platinum
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Reading the title again. it should be changed to "Kojima's Teaser Site: More questions Than Answers" because no one truly has the answer to this mystery.

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I thought this thread would bring something new. I was wrong.
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i really think this will be mgs4 substance for the 360 and ps3 ,raiden could be a playable character.hopefully

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i really think this will be mgs4 substance for the 360 and ps3 ,raiden could be a playable character.hopefully

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Konami has already stated that they will not be expanding upon Guns of the Patriots.
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Not sure what you guys are all seeing, but I just checked the site for the first time since it updated, and when the lighting flashes I see a shadow of a 5 flickering.

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Not sure what you guys are all seeing, but I just checked the site for the first time since it updated, and when the lighting flashes I see a shadow of a 5 flickering.

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We all already know about the 5/S thing

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#36 manight
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Looking at the site it has to be mgs5 but playing metalgear 4 I felt that they finished the story. So what would the story be for the fifth game? they closed everything. even raidens story.

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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Not sure what you guys are all seeing, but I just checked the site for the first time since it updated, and when the lighting flashes I see a shadow of a 5 flickering.

Dark-Star13

We all already know about the 5/S thing

Right, except "S" isn't a clue at all since it makes no sense and references nothing.Kojima has already gone on record as saying that any MGS5 game would involve a spin off character. COnsidering the lightening in the image, Raiden seems likely.

I think this is MGS5 featuring Raiden.

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#38 manight
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If the clue is s the could it be Sunny. She was a big part in the fourth game.

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Wow, I do believe your the first to come to that assumption! I personally think it may have something to do with Konami's recently announced, and very little detailed game Tornado Outbreak. raven_squad

Nice assumption. That makes sense, except for the 5/S thing.

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#40 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Dark-Star13"]

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Not sure what you guys are all seeing, but I just checked the site for the first time since it updated, and when the lighting flashes I see a shadow of a 5 flickering.

ZIMdoom

We all already know about the 5/S thing

Right, except "S" isn't a clue at all since it makes no sense and references nothing.Kojima has already gone on record as saying that any MGS5 game would involve a spin off character. COnsidering the lightening in the image, Raiden seems likely.

I think this is MGS5 featuring Raiden.

S is a clue. It could be Metal Gear Solid 4: Subsistence. Maybe they're going to try and port MGS 4 to the Xbox 360. I doubt that, but it could happen. I still think it's a Raiden-themed MGS 5.

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#41 raven_squad
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"]Wow, I do believe your the first to come to that assumption! I personally think it may have something to do with Konami's recently announced, and very little detailed game Tornado Outbreak. Phoenix534

Nice assumption. That makes sense, except for the 5/S thing.

Perhaps having something to do with the fact that after they analyzed the code of the page, there's actually 5 different timers that will appear. Each one is counting down to a new one.
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#42 funsohng
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it's going to be the new Dokimeki Memorial, devloped by kojima there, i said it.
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#43 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="raven_squad"]Wow, I do believe your the first to come to that assumption! I personally think it may have something to do with Konami's recently announced, and very little detailed game Tornado Outbreak. raven_squad

Nice assumption. That makes sense, except for the 5/S thing.

Perhaps having something to do with the fact that after they analyzed the code of the page, there's actually 5 different timers that will appear. Each one is counting down to a new one.

i think we have a winner.

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[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="TriangleHard"]

I really hope this game has nothing to do with MGS.

As much as it pains me to say it (love the MGS franchise very much) I agree. I wan't something new.

Kai. Brilliant character in a brilliant game.
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i dont see the flickering number/letter to be anything more than a 5. and it doesn't really make sense to assume it means subsistence or substance, because they were already used? what would this one be then... substantiate? in my opinion, it's nothing more than a 5, it'll be with a new character yada yada... everything else is this unbelievably biased video game media toward the xbox. i dont usually care... but lately it's really annoying, nothing on the ps3 can get a fair shake, and im sorry, but i dont see why the xbox is better??

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[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"][QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="TriangleHard"]

I really hope this game has nothing to do with MGS.

As much as it pains me to say it (love the MGS franchise very much) I agree. I wan't something new.

Kai. Brilliant character in a brilliant game.

Yep. Shes awesome. As is HS. Too many people have skipped over that game. As I had until a few days ago. :(
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[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"][QUOTE="raven_squad"]As much as it pains me to say it (love the MGS franchise very much) I agree. I wan't something new. raven_squad
Kai. Brilliant character in a brilliant game.

Yep. Shes awesome. As is HS. Too many people have skipped over that game. As I had until a few days ago. :(

i agree. and i also can't wait till this time tomorrow when i can say "i told you so" about my predictions.
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Anybody remember this, and Kojima's addiction to Left 4 Dead? I don't think that was just BS...
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Anybody remember this, and Kojima's addiction to Left 4 Dead? I don't think that was just BS...raven_squad
i would love a survival horror game by kojima!!! im not playing this sounds great!
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"]Anybody remember this, and Kojima's addiction to Left 4 Dead? I don't think that was just BS...SirOWNZalot86
i would love a survival horror game by kojima!!! im not playing this sounds great!

I'm sure it would be an amazing experience. :P Still hoping that when that countdown runs out and the new one begins, theres a 4 somewhere. That would further fuel my suspensions that those numbers are just a countdown of the timers themselves.