January P2 out sells P3?? Now PSP & P2 outsell P3 whats going on!!!

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#51 Brendruis
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[QUOTE="Brendruis"][QUOTE="vip_kass"][QUOTE="crck"]

The PSP is not a flop. Before it came out Sony had 0% of the handheld market. In 2 years they have taken 35% of the market from Nintendo. How is that a flop? The Dreamcast died because Sega ran out of money after supporting the woeful Saturn for 5 years.....

As for the ps3 yes Sony miscalculated. They thought they could force a bluray player into every ps2 owner's home on name recognition alone. They were wrong and they are paying for it. They will lose market share this generation in exchange for winning the HD disc market. That being said last generation sold about 160 million total consoles. This generation should be around 180-200 million. They have sold about 18 million total so far. There is a long way to go so stop crying.

vip_kass
Well keep drinking the Sony Cool-Aid and I hope you have some really good movie to watch on your P3 since you don't seem to care where the gaming is going. That one big problem all Fanboys have they don't want to make the gaming company accountable for there mistakes. As you have shown with your posting who cares Sony will win the HD market. Sorry but that not what I'm into movies and gaming are like comparing apples to onions.



So you don't like movies? Are you from Mars or something? Check out this guy...hates movies... lol

Wrong, they have a time and place. most of the time I'm living life not waching someone else live theres. But thats not the point the point is I want a gaming console not a kick ass VCR!! Thats why MS let you add it on with thats what your into.



Listen newbie...you can't even comprehend how many other users there are that are just like you.. trolling about how much you don't like Blu-ray and the PlayStation 3.  The number of threads containing trolls like you number in the thousands.

If you don't like some product then don't buy it.. but for the love of god.. shut the f*** up   I love my Blu-ray and PlayStation
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#52 vip_kass
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Brendruis couch+cigarette+beer= ??? Yeah blue-ray maybe all you need to be satisfied, cheers.
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#53 eclipsed4utoo
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PSP & PS2 are world wide and only $200 & $130 each compared to $600 and a not world wide PS3..... hellooooooooooM_Fresh
these are US only figures
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#54 kingtito
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]This may sound like damage control.....but a lot of people might not be ready to jump into next-gen and these PS2 buyers will hopefully jump over to the PS3 when they're ready for next-gen. Most people don't buy next-gen consoles right away.
vincent380
This is true

No it's not true. Those ready to kick into the "Next-Gen" of gaming might just get a Wii or 360 if they drop the price. Most casual gamers just don't want to spend $600 on a gaming maching no matter what it can do.

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#55 Brendruis
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[QUOTE="vincent380"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]This may sound like damage control.....but a lot of people might not be ready to jump into next-gen and these PS2 buyers will hopefully jump over to the PS3 when they're ready for next-gen. Most people don't buy next-gen consoles right away.
kingtito

This is true

No it's not true. Those ready to kick into the "Next-Gen" of gaming might just get a Wii or 360 if they drop the price. Most casual gamers just don't want to spend $600 on a gaming maching no matter what it can do.



And yuppie consumers this year might buy a Kia instead of a quality car like a Chevy or Ford... PS3 is the better value because it has a greater selection of features...get your whining back to System Wars where it belongs

..and I remember you kingtito .. this is a known troll
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#56 mikeslemonade
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Im not worried at all because blu-ray is getting stronger every month.  Once HD-DVD is dead then the PS3 is gonna sell way more.  There's still people who think HD-DVD is going to win...
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#57 Brendruis
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Im not worried at all because blu-ray is getting stronger every month. Once HD-DVD is dead then the PS3 is gonna sell way more. There's still people who think HD-DVD is going to win...
mikeslemonade


It's just dumbfounding to me... I don't understand it..  You can't have a format without the support of the film industry.

They pretend like they have the support and the proper distribution..and the only place you'll find HD-DVD in stores is Best-Buy...and they're taking them off the shelves slowly
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[QUOTE="M_Fresh"]PSP & PS2 are world wide and only $200 & $130 each compared to $600 and a not world wide PS3..... helloooooooooovip_kass
Hooo thats it, what were we all thinking, thanks M-Flush, I'm sure the 3rd world just can't wait to buy a $600 gaming system. Get a clue, US sells are what makes or breaks a console. Europe hasn't even sold out its pre-orders as on today so good luck on the World Wide theory!

Europe hasn't soldout its pre-orders mainly because the number of units in the european launch is way more than what North America and Japan had, and if you think America makes or breaks a console, you obviously didn't see the sales figures for the PS2 worldwide. I honestly can't believe you're judging a console thats been out for a few months? Wait a year or 2 and then we'll see if you can make your ignorant remarks again.

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#59 vip_kass
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Wait a year or 2 and then we'll see if you can make your ignorant remarks again. I point out an article with factual numbers of US console sells and you say this, lol.
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#60 Deihmos
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[QUOTE="Brendruis"][QUOTE="vip_kass"][QUOTE="crck"]

The PSP is not a flop. Before it came out Sony had 0% of the handheld market. In 2 years they have taken 35% of the market from Nintendo. How is that a flop? The Dreamcast died because Sega ran out of money after supporting the woeful Saturn for 5 years.....

As for the ps3 yes Sony miscalculated. They thought they could force a bluray player into every ps2 owner's home on name recognition alone. They were wrong and they are paying for it. They will lose market share this generation in exchange for winning the HD disc market. That being said last generation sold about 160 million total consoles. This generation should be around 180-200 million. They have sold about 18 million total so far. There is a long way to go so stop crying.

vip_kass
Well keep drinking the Sony Cool-Aid and I hope you have some really good movie to watch on your P3 since you don't seem to care where the gaming is going. That one big problem all Fanboys have they don't want to make the gaming company accountable for there mistakes. As you have shown with your posting who cares Sony will win the HD market. Sorry but that not what I'm into movies and gaming are like comparing apples to onions.



So you don't like movies?  Are you from Mars or something?  Check out this guy...hates movies... lol

Wrong, they have a time and place. most of the time I'm living life not waching someone else live theres. But thats not the point the point is I want a gaming console not a kick ass VCR!! Thats why MS let you add it on with thats what your into.

That's true. If I wanted a blu ray player or HD DVd player I wouldn't be looking for one in a console.
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#61 washimul
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[QUOTE="vip_kass"][QUOTE="Brendruis"][QUOTE="vip_kass"][QUOTE="crck"]

The PSP is not a flop. Before it came out Sony had 0% of the handheld market. In 2 years they have taken 35% of the market from Nintendo. How is that a flop? The Dreamcast died because Sega ran out of money after supporting the woeful Saturn for 5 years.....

As for the ps3 yes Sony miscalculated. They thought they could force a bluray player into every ps2 owner's home on name recognition alone. They were wrong and they are paying for it. They will lose market share this generation in exchange for winning the HD disc market. That being said last generation sold about 160 million total consoles. This generation should be around 180-200 million. They have sold about 18 million total so far. There is a long way to go so stop crying.

Deihmos

Well keep drinking the Sony Cool-Aid and I hope you have some really good movie to watch on your P3 since you don't seem to care where the gaming is going. That one big problem all Fanboys have they don't want to make the gaming company accountable for there mistakes. As you have shown with your posting who cares Sony will win the HD market. Sorry but that not what I'm into movies and gaming are like comparing apples to onions.



So you don't like movies?  Are you from Mars or something?  Check out this guy...hates movies... lol

Wrong, they have a time and place. most of the time I'm living life not waching someone else live theres. But thats not the point the point is I want a gaming console not a kick ass VCR!! Thats why MS let you add it on with thats what your into.

That's true. If I wanted a blu ray player or HD DVd player I wouldn't be looking for one in a console.

50% of ps3 customers have purchased atleast 2 BD movies.

It is just because of them HD_DVD is now dead in AUSTRALIA( retailers have completely pulled the plug there).

same goes to UK and JAPAN(adoption rate of 95% for BD)

BD standalone player outsells HD-DVD player currently 20 k :13k

I purchased ps3 because of Blue-ray and also 360 was too expensive with a 5$ dvd drive..50$ yearly subscription fee + less powerful.

I really liked CASINO ROYALE on BD (currently no8 on AMAZON's top chart).

I have XMEN 3 as well.

Being a troll it hurts some people to see that ps3 is doing well both as BD player and as a console.

Come march 23rd ...........some of them might even commit suicide.

over 50% of UK consumers are buying ps3 just because of CASINO ROYALE ( the movie earned over 200 million $ in UK alone).

Why would i pay 400$ for  a watered down console with old techs when i can get a 1000$ bd drive + MOTORSTORM (true nextgen) +free online + CELL +wifi +HDMI for  $600.

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#62 Paul_TheGreat
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The PS3 will do much better in March.
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#63 blacktorn
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Agreed, 600+ Tax might hurta little bit, and the lack of games to come out on PS3 hurts tooMASTERCHIEFUSMA


I agree as well,drop the ps3 to $300 and the systerm's will really start to sell,$300 seems to be the sweet spot for every console,unless of course a system is lower,such as the Wii,and we all know how that is selling :P
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#64 washimul
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[QUOTE="vip_kass"][QUOTE="M_Fresh"]PSP & PS2 are world wide and only $200 & $130 each compared to $600 and a not world wide PS3..... helloooooooooommirza23

Hooo thats it, what were we all thinking, thanks M-Flush, I'm sure the 3rd world just can't wait to buy a $600 gaming system. Get a clue, US sells are what makes or breaks a console. Europe hasn't even sold out its pre-orders as on today so good luck on the World Wide theory!

Europe hasn't soldout its pre-orders mainly because the number of units in the european launch is way more than what North America and Japan had, and if you think America makes or breaks a console, you obviously didn't see the sales figures for the PS2 worldwide. I honestly can't believe you're judging a console thats been out for a few months? Wait a year or 2 and then we'll see if you can make your ignorant remarks again.

90% of UK's allocation are already sold...........dont forget ps3 is launching with 1 m in EU ,MIDDLE EAST and AUSTRALIA.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23523           

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#65 washimul
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[QUOTE="MASTERCHIEFUSMA"]Agreed, 600+ Tax might hurta little bit, and the lack of games to come out on PS3 hurts tooblacktorn


I agree as well,drop the ps3 to $300 and the systerm's will really start to sell,$300 seems to be the sweet spot for every console,unless of course a system is lower,such as the Wii,and we all know how that is selling :P

they would lower price but not at the moment.......

ps3 would be reduced to 300$ when x360 wd cost 100$.

thts how people perceive ps3 to be........a much superior product with immaculate quality and supercomputer like ability.

SONY is in no need to cut price. PS3 is doing good in MARCH due to MOTORSTORM and EU launch would be much bigger than anticipated since around 36 titles would be made available which includes F1,VF5, RESISTANCE, OBLIVION etc

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#66 mmirza23
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[QUOTE="mmirza23"]

[QUOTE="vip_kass"][QUOTE="M_Fresh"]PSP & PS2 are world wide and only $200 & $130 each compared to $600 and a not world wide PS3..... helloooooooooowashimul

Hooo thats it, what were we all thinking, thanks M-Flush, I'm sure the 3rd world just can't wait to buy a $600 gaming system. Get a clue, US sells are what makes or breaks a console. Europe hasn't even sold out its pre-orders as on today so good luck on the World Wide theory!

Europe hasn't soldout its pre-orders mainly because the number of units in the european launch is way more than what North America and Japan had, and if you think America makes or breaks a console, you obviously didn't see the sales figures for the PS2 worldwide. I honestly can't believe you're judging a console thats been out for a few months? Wait a year or 2 and then we'll see if you can make your ignorant remarks again.

90% of UK's allocation are already sold...........dont forget ps3 is launching with 1 m in EU ,MIDDLE EAST and AUSTRALIA.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23523           

thankyou! finally somebody with facts rather than just this hogwash, btw the ps2 sold 37.1 mil of the 115 mil units in North America, thats roughly 1/3, nowhere near the deciding factor

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#67 The_Rick_14
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As far as the blu-ray only being for movies I think people are forgetting the storage capacity and how that can come into play for gaming in the future. 25gb to 4.7gb? I don't know about you guys, but I like my games to be on one disc...not 5.
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#68 Deihmos
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[QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="vip_kass"][QUOTE="Brendruis"][QUOTE="vip_kass"][QUOTE="crck"]

The PSP is not a flop. Before it came out Sony had 0% of the handheld market. In 2 years they have taken 35% of the market from Nintendo. How is that a flop? The Dreamcast died because Sega ran out of money after supporting the woeful Saturn for 5 years.....

As for the ps3 yes Sony miscalculated. They thought they could force a bluray player into every ps2 owner's home on name recognition alone. They were wrong and they are paying for it. They will lose market share this generation in exchange for winning the HD disc market. That being said last generation sold about 160 million total consoles. This generation should be around 180-200 million. They have sold about 18 million total so far. There is a long way to go so stop crying.

washimul

Well keep drinking the Sony Cool-Aid and I hope you have some really good movie to watch on your P3 since you don't seem to care where the gaming is going. That one big problem all Fanboys have they don't want to make the gaming company accountable for there mistakes. As you have shown with your posting who cares Sony will win the HD market. Sorry but that not what I'm into movies and gaming are like comparing apples to onions.



So you don't like movies?  Are you from Mars or something?  Check out this guy...hates movies... lol

Wrong, they have a time and place. most of the time I'm living life not waching someone else live theres. But thats not the point the point is I want a gaming console not a kick ass VCR!! Thats why MS let you add it on with thats what your into.

That's true. If I wanted a blu ray player or HD DVd player I wouldn't be looking for one in a console.

50% of ps3 customers have purchased atleast 2 BD movies.

It is just because of them HD_DVD is now dead in AUSTRALIA( retailers have completely pulled the plug there).

same goes to UK and JAPAN(adoption rate of 95% for BD)

BD standalone player outsells HD-DVD player currently 20 k :13k

I purchased ps3 because of Blue-ray and also 360 was too expensive with a 5$ dvd drive..50$ yearly subscription fee + less powerful.

I really liked CASINO ROYALE on BD (currently no8 on AMAZON's top chart).

I have XMEN 3 as well.

Being a troll it hurts some people to see that ps3 is doing well both as BD player and as a console.

Come march 23rd ...........some of them might even commit suicide.

over 50% of UK consumers are buying ps3 just because of CASINO ROYALE ( the movie earned over 200 million $ in UK alone).

Why would i pay 400$ for  a watered down console with old techs when i can get a 1000$ bd drive + MOTORSTORM (true nextgen) +free online + CELL +wifi +HDMI for  $600.

And why would I care? Either format did not interest me or the majority from the beginning.

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#69 Krigon
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[QUOTE="vincent380"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]This may sound like damage control.....but a lot of people might not be ready to jump into next-gen and these PS2 buyers will hopefully jump over to the PS3 when they're ready for next-gen. Most people don't buy next-gen consoles right away.
kingtito

This is true

No it's not true. Those ready to kick into the "Next-Gen" of gaming might just get a Wii or 360 if they drop the price. Most casual gamers just don't want to spend $600 on a gaming maching no matter what it can do.

Most casual gamers don't just buy a console for gaming.