Is the Vita Really Going To Die??

I think yes. Because moronic Sony released this metal thing and wont even support it. No good patches for long weeks.. Nothing

It's already being sold where I live with a starter pack (Loblaws) or with MLB 12 (WalMart).

I'm curious to see what the next sale tactic will be. A base price of $200 or a drop in the cost of a 32mb card would get me interested.

Of course not it just needs time. It's only been out for 2 months people just expect too much right from the start. Don't let people hinder you from buying one if its what you want. Most of the time they can't afford one themselves so they just try to convince everyone else that buying one would be a dumb choice.

It's not going to die. It's going to last for years.;)

Nah, i doubt it

i just hope..scratch that...i PRAY, this E3 Sony atleast announce all PS1 classics, PS2 games, and the rest of the PSP library are now playable on the Vita. if not im going to be really pissed

It's already being sold where I live with a starter pack (Loblaws) or with MLB 12 (WalMart).

I'm curious to see what the next sale tactic will be. A base price of $200 or a drop in the cost of a 32mb card would get me interested.

d_parker

Nah, i doubt it

i just hope..scratch that...i PRAY, this E3 Sony atleast announce all PS1 classics, PS2 games, and the rest of the PSP library are now playable on the Vita. if not im going to be really pissed

LP4EVA2005

Its not going to die for at least 4 years. We are only 2 months into the NA/EU release. When E3 comes and they announce all the western games that will come out this winter and early next year its going to be on everyones Xmas list. Also look for Sony to at least give us a timeframe for ps3 disk based remote play so they can take the wind out of Nintendo's Wii U sails. Its going to be a fun E3 i foresee.

When the first psp came out people said it was going to die within a year or two, but look at it now. So many great games.

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Nah, i doubt it

i just hope..scratch that...i PRAY, this E3 Sony atleast announce all PS1 classics, PS2 games, and the rest of the PSP library are now playable on the Vita. if not im going to be really pissed

danish-death

What? who said anything about porting the Whole PS1/PS2/PSP library? im taking about the PS1/PS2/PSP games that are already in the PSN store...i want those to be playable on the Vita.

I know Sony is gonna announce a lot of games at E3, but I hope the majority are mostly for the Vita and "only" on the Vita.

sony never gave up on the ps3 and the psp is still standing.... i think they might turn things around when the big games comeout.

The Vita and the 3DS are different enough to cater to different markets through providing different experiences, even taking account of overlay. There are games that I prefer to play on the Vita instead of the 3DS and games that I prefer to play on the 3DS than Vita. I think developers understand that and that is why there are going to be many experiences exclusive to the Vita.

It probably won't do as well as the 3DS, but it doesn't need to and it certainly won't die.

hopefully it dies, that would be better funny since sony fanboys spent 350+ on their vitas just to have them die offSamus3D

na..just a slow start like the 3ds

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Nah, i doubt it

i just hope..scratch that...i PRAY, this E3 Sony atleast announce all PS1 classics, PS2 games, and the rest of the PSP library are now playable on the Vita. if not im going to be really pissed

LP4EVA2005

What? who said anything about porting the Whole PS1/PS2/PSP library? im taking about the PS1/PS2/PSP games that are already in the PSN store...i want those to be playable on the Vita.

Probably won't die, but it's at real risk of third party developers pulling out of making games for the Vita.

No, the system will not die. The Vita is suffering what all gaming devices do, lack of software. Third parties did the same with the 3DS. Third party support is not super strong right now, but it will get there. Sony is putting out Warriors Lair, Little Big Planet, Gravity Rush, Resistance, and Killzone. Hopefully XSeed will publish Ragnarok Oddysey and Orgarythm. Sony will also eventually bring over Soul Sacrifice after its Japanese release. I do not see where there is a lack of software as of yet. Maybe Sony already has third party games coming, but it is waiting for E3. This could be the reason why the company is talking about its PS3 games for 2012. People should focus on playing games instead whether a system will last. Everybody said the PS3 was going to be dead after its first year, but somehow it still lives today. Granted, Nintendo will always dominate because people always associate handheld gaming with the company. After Game Gear disappeared, Game Boy and GBA went without competition in the West for years. No one even comments on how the Vita is doing in Western territories. I know that Vgchartz is not the most trusted site around for numbers, but it is at leas in the ballpark range. From what I have seen the new handhelds are at a 2 to 1 ration with one another in North America and Europe. If the ration was at 4 to 1, then I would start to get worried. That is not too terrible given the price of the Vita plus memory cards. Everyone focuses on Japan way too much in regards to handhelds. The economy sucks right and no one is buying anything.

I think The Vita will be more of a Western gaming device while the 3DS will remain more Eastern oriented. I cannot back it up with anything, but I just get that feeling.

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[QUOTE="danish-death"] You better start praying. Why should they port over the whole PS1, PS2 AND the whole PSP libary, when they cannot even be bothered doing that for the PS3? Try and think logically for a moment. They *might* port more PSP games + "HD" ports (those that are already coming for the PS3), but they'll most definately not be focusing on that - they might announce that they are working on some ports, but otherwise their main priority should be actual new games.danish-death

What? who said anything about porting the Whole PS1/PS2/PSP library? im taking about the PS1/PS2/PSP games that are already in the PSN store...i want those to be playable on the Vita.

I wouldn't be so quick to believe such negative romours, given it's a new system. Not all the titles announced for the Vita came out during the launch, most of the good stuff is due to come out in May. To be honest, I am inclined to believe that for the Vita - This is the calm before the proverbial storm ;-)

It's only a matter of time before Tropical Storm Vita goes Category 5! OH YEAH!!!

No. It's doing badly in Japan, but it was sold out in PAL regions.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/ps-vita-first-edition-bundles-sell-out-6350849

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/PlayStation-Vita-psvita-Nintendo-3DS-Handheld,news-14300.html

I don't know what it is with Sony lately, their consoles launch bad but get better over time. This has been happening since the psp, although with the psp they were a little too late. With the ps3 they really turned it around and as the Xbox and wii are dwindling the ps3 still looks like it has some years left.Ghost120x

Sony has been this way since the first PlayStation. PS1 did not have a HUGE game until Final Fantasy 7. Twisted Metal and Crash were big, but the PlayStation brand did not become a household name until 97. PS2 had a rough first year. The launch was ok. A lot of games that came out in its first year were not super awesome. PS2 did not take off until after Metal Gear Solid 2, Grand Theft Auto 3, and Final Fantasy X came out. I do not know why people are expecting killer apps in 2 months of Vita's launch. No system has constant great titles at launch. Gravity Rush looks like it will be a killer app in terms of quality. Getting a great game within the first 4 months of a system's life cycle is pretty good news. Most systems take 8 months to a year to get great games. Sony should have had a few more games to help the months go by until E3, but what it did give us was better than how most systems start out. Uncharted, Lumines, Hot Shots, Golf, Super Stardust, and Mutant Blobs attack are all worth playing. There are games such as Resistance, Gravity Rush, Warriors Lair, Killzone, Sound Shapes, and Little Big Planet coming out this year as well plus games we do not know about.

[QUOTE="Ghost120x"]I don't know what it is with Sony lately, their consoles launch bad but get better over time. This has been happening since the psp, although with the psp they were a little too late. With the ps3 they really turned it around and as the Xbox and wii are dwindling the ps3 still looks like it has some years left.gamenerd15

Sony has been this way since the first PlayStation. PS1 did not have a HUGE game until Final Fantasy 7. Twisted Metal and Crash were big, but the PlayStation brand did not become a household name until 97. PS2 had a rough first year. The launch was ok. A lot of games that came out in its first year were not super awesome. PS2 did not take off until after Metal Gear Solid 2, Grand Theft Auto 3, and Final Fantasy X came out. I do not know why people are expecting killer apps in 2 months of Vita's launch. No system has constant great titles at launch. Gravity Rush looks like it will be a killer app in terms of quality. Getting a great game within the first 4 months of a system's life cycle is pretty good news. Most systems take 8 months to a year to get great games. Sony should have had a few more games to help the months go by until E3, but what it did give us was better than how most systems start out. Uncharted, Lumines, Hot Shots, Golf, Super Stardust, and Mutant Blobs attack are all worth playing. There are games such as Resistance, Gravity Rush, Warriors Lair, Killzone, Sound Shapes, and Little Big Planet coming out this year as well plus games we do not know about.

[QUOTE="Ghost120x"]I don't know what it is with Sony lately, their consoles launch bad but get better over time. This has been happening since the psp, although with the psp they were a little too late. With the ps3 they really turned it around and as the Xbox and wii are dwindling the ps3 still looks like it has some years left.gamenerd15

Sony has been this way since the first PlayStation. PS1 did not have a HUGE game until Final Fantasy 7. Twisted Metal and Crash were big, but the PlayStation brand did not become a household name until 97. PS2 had a rough first year. The launch was ok. A lot of games that came out in its first year were not super awesome. PS2 did not take off until after Metal Gear Solid 2, Grand Theft Auto 3, and Final Fantasy X came out. I do not know why people are expecting killer apps in 2 months of Vita's launch. No system has constant great titles at launch. Gravity Rush looks like it will be a killer app in terms of quality. Getting a great game within the first 4 months of a system's life cycle is pretty good news. Most systems take 8 months to a year to get great games. Sony should have had a few more games to help the months go by until E3, but what it did give us was better than how most systems start out. Uncharted, Lumines, Hot Shots, Golf, Super Stardust, and Mutant Blobs attack are all worth playing. There are games such as Resistance, Gravity Rush, Warriors Lair, Killzone, Sound Shapes, and Little Big Planet coming out this year as well plus games we do not know about.

Why is everyone pushing the panic button already? The Vita will be just fine down the road. flowersjf

People claimed the PS3 would be dead and developers were abandoning the system in its first year on the market.

[QUOTE="flowersjf"]Why is everyone pushing the panic button already? The Vita will be just fine down the road. danish-death

First wave will be everyone saying the system is a total failure and it will be dead in a year.

Second wave is a million complaints about every little thing that is wrong w/ and it and how it's a disaster and will be dead in a year.

Third wave is people getting excited about new games and playing them.

If the Vita is still doing poorly this time next year, I'll worry a little. Until then, I am waiting for something compelling enough that I finally buy the thing.

There is a lot of wishful thinking and blind optimism in this thread. Not saying recovery for Vita is impossible but anyone who likens its situation to that of 3DS or PS3 doesn't understand the issue at all. Vita is selling way, way worse than 3DS was before the price drop, and this is with Vita selling at a loss and Nintendo at a profit. Sony has already played its two biggest first party cards in Uncharted and Hot Shots and neither moved Vitas. Former PSP centric franchises like Tekken, Metal Gear, and Monster Hunter are already on 3DS. When 3DS was floundering we KNEW games like Mario, Mario Kart, Zelda, Animal Crossing, and Pokemon were inevitable. Sony has no such luck. Their biggest announced games are all multiplatform or ports (Phantasy Star Online 2, MGS HD, FFX HD, Persona 4, Hatsune Miku). That alone should tell you what little confidence third parties have in the system. At this point, what incentive is there to invest in exclusive Vita development? The system costs nearly as much as PS3 to make games for, its userbase is tiny, and it isn't selling. 3DS, PSP, DS, Xbox 360, Wii, PS3, iOS, Android, Windows, PS3, and WiiU are all better options right now and that fact won't change just because we want it to. People tend to think it won't fail because we haven't seen it happen to a major player since Dreamcast, but what people don't realize is that Vita is barely ahead of where Dreamcast was at the same point. It isn't the same as with PS3 either since tons of developers were already heavily invested in the platform long before it began to struggle, and things at Sony were much different then. Remember, Sony was still trying to win the format war back then and the company as a whole was very profitable. Nowadays Sony is in huge financial trouble and they don't have nearly as much riding on Vita as they did PS3. At this point it comes down to E3 and TGS. If Vita doesn't get some true killer apps announced at those shows we can pretty much call it a day. If it doesn't start selling nobody will make games for it, and if nobody makes games for it nobody will buy it. They have a weak first party and limited time to right the ship. Nintendo realized this and acted quickly, but for Vita it coulf be too late.famicommander

You really can't compare things like that. You're speaking of Uncharted as a system seller, something none of us knows anything about. It's a good franchise yes, but a system seller? Have you even considered that we've already seen 3 Uncharted games on the PS3 and the last which released not 6 months ago? The PSV version of Uncharted is a decent game, but it doesn't offer anything new, hell it doesn't even offer a proper multiplayer experience (something which would've been rather ideal considering how few competitiv MP games there are out now), so to call it a system seller or flagship is just weak.

In all honesty, I agree with you that Sony will have to give us a pretty damn good E3 full of PS Vita games, but there's nothing wrong with that because we can almost with certainty say they will. Why? Because they have currently announced the following games for the PS3 for 2013: The last of Us (It's a given really), LittleBig Planet: Karting, God of War: Ascension, Ni No Kuni and a final secret project (Battle Royal?) being announced this thursday. It's foolish to think that Sony have another 3-4 surprise games just waiting to be announced at E3. If anything they might have ONE games, but my guess is that don't, if at best we might get a release date for FF13V.

It's also a given that we won't be seeing the PS4/Orbis at this years E3 because that would just flat out kill the PSV and any news regarding it.

So I find it quite logical to assume they'll be focusing on the PS Vita, especially since it just released. The PSV is, opposed to the 3DS, in a completely different league that allows for better graphics and have two thumbsticks (or whatever they're called). Why is this important? Because it'll be much easier for companies such as EA and Activisions to make/port games such as Need for Speed, Dead Space, Battlefield, Call of Duty AND make the games look appealing to the masses. Activision might expand on the MW series and include a good (lol) competitiv MP component that'll cather to the casuals. They can and most likely will do this because it's possible with the possibilities are there with PSV - I will a turd if Activision doesn't come around.

And you speak about development cost as something you know anything about. Do you have a specific statement that claims that the average PSV game is just as expensive as the average PS3 games (a console which is infamous for being hard to develop for)?

It's funny because I've found a quote stating the direct opposite:

??we have created a much easier development environment than we have for previous platforms. That facilitates experimentation and combined with the opportunities digital distribution provides, such as removing the risk of having to commit to an inventory stock, we are able to lower the barrier of entry for developers and hopefully encourage them to experiment and take risks."

AND

"An extension to that is PlayStation Suite which, for me, is an initiative that runs in parallel to PS Vita. What we have there is a very low cost development environment and an opportunity to immediately access a broad and growing range of Android devices and the install base that comes with them, as well as the option to make your content compatible with PS Vita. In essence, PlayStation Suite is an extra route into delivering PS Vita content that will be available to a much larger pool of developers, and in a much more agile, quicker to market way.?

http://gamerant.com/vita-software-update-development-less-expensive-robk-134418/

There is a lot of wishful thinking and blind optimism in this thread. Not saying recovery for Vita is impossible but anyone who likens its situation to that of 3DS or PS3 doesn't understand the issue at all. Vita is selling way, way worse than 3DS was before the price drop, and this is with Vita selling at a loss and Nintendo at a profit. Sony has already played its two biggest first party cards in Uncharted and Hot Shots and neither moved Vitas. Former PSP centric franchises like Tekken, Metal Gear, and Monster Hunter are already on 3DS. When 3DS was floundering we KNEW games like Mario, Mario Kart, Zelda, Animal Crossing, and Pokemon were inevitable. Sony has no such luck. Their biggest announced games are all multiplatform or ports (Phantasy Star Online 2, MGS HD, FFX HD, Persona 4, Hatsune Miku). That alone should tell you what little confidence third parties have in the system. At this point, what incentive is there to invest in exclusive Vita development? The system costs nearly as much as PS3 to make games for, its userbase is tiny, and it isn't selling. 3DS, PSP, DS, Xbox 360, Wii, PS3, iOS, Android, Windows, PS3, and WiiU are all better options right now and that fact won't change just because we want it to. People tend to think it won't fail because we haven't seen it happen to a major player since Dreamcast, but what people don't realize is that Vita is barely ahead of where Dreamcast was at the same point. It isn't the same as with PS3 either since tons of developers were already heavily invested in the platform long before it began to struggle, and things at Sony were much different then. Remember, Sony was still trying to win the format war back then and the company as a whole was very profitable. Nowadays Sony is in huge financial trouble and they don't have nearly as much riding on Vita as they did PS3. At this point it comes down to E3 and TGS. If Vita doesn't get some true killer apps announced at those shows we can pretty much call it a day. If it doesn't start selling nobody will make games for it, and if nobody makes games for it nobody will buy it. They have a weak first party and limited time to right the ship. Nintendo realized this and acted quickly, but for Vita it coulf be too late.famicommander

The Dreamcast failed because of internal development issues at Sega. The Dreamcast also failed because of the anticipation of the PS2. The Vita is failing in Japan. As far as Europe and NA go, the 3DS is outselling 2 to 1 right now. It is funny how all the negative Vita news is centered around Japan. No one ever reports how poorly Vita is doing in any other territory. The Vita faces challenges yes, but it is nowhere as bad as you paint it. Of course Sony is not going to talk about killer apps for Vita now. That would be dumb when E3 is around the corner. The PS3 was is the same boat when it came out. It only sold like 4 million units its first year. There is already games announced for it that are coming next year, so your theory kind of goes out the window.

Meh.. Gamespot decidede to mess with my post. It's missing the lower part of it and other stuff. The gramma mistakes are my own though lol. At any rate, your post brings a lot of doom and gloom and while I do agree with you (concerning E3) I'm much more optimistic because it's not unreasonable to be so all things considered.

*edit* and you seem to think that Sony relies on old franchises. It's funny becase LBP, Resistance and Uncharted (a system seller according to you) are all new from this gen and all doing well.

WHY shouldn't Sony be able to do the same thing with the PS Vita? Soul Sacrifice looks quite interesting to me and it might just be what we're waiting for. Gravity Rush also looks good.

I kinda hope they release a newer model by next year with 1gig of ram instead of 512mb.

But I kinda doubt it since that is a huge jump, but the PSP Slim did that but it's not like it was taken advantage of expect a few firmware updates. Maybe it would help games play at 60fps while older models play at 30fps.