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#1 Sonwhy
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Would you support a lawsuit against sony?

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#2 Furi-Kun
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No.

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a lawsuit would be an extremely dumb idea

if I didn't see improvements I would be very unhappy, and if it would cost more than XBL I would consider switching consoles (but only if it cost a lot more and wasn't nearly as good, I like my PS3 exclusives)

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#4 Sonwhy
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No.

Furi-Kun

And why wouldn't you?

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#5 Furi-Kun
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No.

Sonwhy

And why wouldn't you?

Let's assume it did happen. What are the odds do you think people who don't agree will win? It's Sony's choice and there's nothing we can do about it. I think the only way we could win if there was some kind of loophole.

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#6 abdelmessih101
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Would you support a lawsuit against sony?

Sonwhy
I'd rather play the lottery. . . . . .or better yet, just light a big wad of my cash on fire.
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#7 Sonwhy
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a lawsuit would be an extremely dumb idea

if I didn't see improvements I would be very unhappy, and if it would cost more than XBL I would consider switching consoles (but only if it cost a lot more and wasn't nearly as good, I like my PS3 exclusives)

Cody13_2012

Why would it be dumb? The service is free and now you have to start paying to use it? I woudn't want to have to start paying to use it. Its kinda like you buy a car that runs completely on electricity and requires no gas to run...say you have owned it for a couple years. Then one day the car compay that you bought it from decides hey will are going to starting charging people a monthly rate for the car seeing as your don't have to pay for gas any more. How would it be dumb to file a law suit when its pretty much comparable to being the same thing by being charged for something that starts off as free then someone gets greedy.

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#8 NaughtyRag
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Lawsuit? WTF!

Would i pay for it, hell no...

would i sign some petition to have it reversed, eh hard to say..

would i bash them for it, most likely..

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#9 Denji
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Hmmm,

Pay for PSN. Don't like the idea? Pay triple the amount to launch a lawsuit against them, that you won't have a prayer in anyways.

Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense.

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#10 SoNin360
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I doubt they would ever do that anyways so I'm not even going to think about it lol.
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[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

a lawsuit would be an extremely dumb idea

if I didn't see improvements I would be very unhappy, and if it would cost more than XBL I would consider switching consoles (but only if it cost a lot more and wasn't nearly as good, I like my PS3 exclusives)

Sonwhy

Why would it be dumb? The service is free and now you have to start paying to use it? I woudn't want to have to start paying to use it. Its kinda like you buy a car that runs completely on electricity and requires no gas to run...say you have owned it for a couple years. Then one day the car compay that you bought it from decides hey will are going to starting charging people a monthly rate for the car seeing as your don't have to pay for gas any more. How would it be dumb to file a law suit when its pretty much comparable to being the same thing by being charged for something that starts off as free then someone gets greedy.

that's completely different, you have to access Sony's servers, which they pay to keep up, to play online, whether or not they charge for it is there business.

When you buy a car you no longer have anything to do with the dealership unless you are paying payments.

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#12 Sonwhy
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[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="Furi-Kun"]

No.

Furi-Kun

And why wouldn't you?

Let's assume it did happen. What are the odds do you think people who don't agree will win? It's Sony's choice and there's nothing we can do about it. I think the only way we could win if there was some kind of loophole.

Thats what the law is all about is loopholes. Some crazy nut out there would hire a lawyer then the next thing you know there would be some kind of big petition going around. I do think its a very real law suit that could happen.

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#13 Sonwhy
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[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

a lawsuit would be an extremely dumb idea

if I didn't see improvements I would be very unhappy, and if it would cost more than XBL I would consider switching consoles (but only if it cost a lot more and wasn't nearly as good, I like my PS3 exclusives)

Cody13_2012

Why would it be dumb? The service is free and now you have to start paying to use it? I woudn't want to have to start paying to use it. Its kinda like you buy a car that runs completely on electricity and requires no gas to run...say you have owned it for a couple years. Then one day the car compay that you bought it from decides hey will are going to starting charging people a monthly rate for the car seeing as your don't have to pay for gas any more. How would it be dumb to file a law suit when its pretty much comparable to being the same thing by being charged for something that starts off as free then someone gets greedy.

that's completely different, you have to access Sony's servers, which they pay to keep up, to play online, whether or not they charge for it is there business.

When you buy a car you no longer have anything to do with the dealership unless you are paying payments.

Yeah but that could change and its kind of the samething. Your paying for something that was once free and now someone wants to charge for it.

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#14 abdelmessih101
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[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="Furi-Kun"]

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

And why wouldn't you?

Let's assume it did happen. What are the odds do you think people who don't agree will win? It's Sony's choice and there's nothing we can do about it. I think the only way we could win if there was some kind of loophole.

Thats what the law is all about is loopholes. Some crazy nut out there would hire a lawyer then the next thing you know there would be some kind of big petition going around. I do think its a very real law suit that could happen.

I wouldn't plan on going to law school if I were you . . .
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#15 deactivated-59506133570df
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[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

Why would it be dumb? The service is free and now you have to start paying to use it? I woudn't want to have to start paying to use it. Its kinda like you buy a car that runs completely on electricity and requires no gas to run...say you have owned it for a couple years. Then one day the car compay that you bought it from decides hey will are going to starting charging people a monthly rate for the car seeing as your don't have to pay for gas any more. How would it be dumb to file a law suit when its pretty much comparable to being the same thing by being charged for something that starts off as free then someone gets greedy.

Sonwhy

that's completely different, you have to access Sony's servers, which they pay to keep up, to play online, whether or not they charge for it is there business.

When you buy a car you no longer have anything to do with the dealership unless you are paying payments.

Yeah but that could change and its kind of the samething. Your paying for something that was once free and now someone wants to charge for it.

you buy bottled water, right?

once upon a time water was free at the town well, or you can go in anyplace today and get a free glass of water.

soooo, lets sue the bottled water companies.

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#16 Sonwhy
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[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="Furi-Kun"]

Let's assume it did happen. What are the odds do you think people who don't agree will win? It's Sony's choice and there's nothing we can do about it. I think the only way we could win if there was some kind of loophole.

abdelmessih101

Thats what the law is all about is loopholes. Some crazy nut out there would hire a lawyer then the next thing you know there would be some kind of big petition going around. I do think its a very real law suit that could happen.

I wouldn't plan on going to law school if I were you . . .

Don't worry about that. Being a lawyer is a way too boring and alot of law jobs are commision based and if I going to law school I want to walk out with that tom cruise kind of job and 95% of the time for most lawyers that just got out don't get that kind of work.

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#17 Denji
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[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

Why would it be dumb? The service is free and now you have to start paying to use it? I woudn't want to have to start paying to use it. Its kinda like you buy a car that runs completely on electricity and requires no gas to run...say you have owned it for a couple years. Then one day the car compay that you bought it from decides hey will are going to starting charging people a monthly rate for the car seeing as your don't have to pay for gas any more. How would it be dumb to file a law suit when its pretty much comparable to being the same thing by being charged for something that starts off as free then someone gets greedy.

Sonwhy

that's completely different, you have to access Sony's servers, which they pay to keep up, to play online, whether or not they charge for it is there business.

When you buy a car you no longer have anything to do with the dealership unless you are paying payments.

Yeah but that could change and its kind of the samething. Your paying for something that was once free and now someone wants to charge for it.

If that's the case, then why aren't people launching lawsuits against Microsoft for XBL? You can play games on Windows, on PC, online for free.

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#18 abdelmessih101
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[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"][QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

Thats what the law is all about is loopholes. Some crazy nut out there would hire a lawyer then the next thing you know there would be some kind of big petition going around. I do think its a very real law suit that could happen.

I wouldn't plan on going to law school if I were you . . .

Don't worry about that. Being a lawyer is a way too boring and alot of law jobs are commision based and if I going to law school I want to walk out with that tom cruise kind of job and 95% of the time for most lawyers that just got out don't get that kind of work.

That's not at all my point . . . In fact, that post basically sums up my point. But you don't know what that is, so don't worry about it too much. :P
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#19 Sonwhy
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[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

that's completely different, you have to access Sony's servers, which they pay to keep up, to play online, whether or not they charge for it is there business.

When you buy a car you no longer have anything to do with the dealership unless you are paying payments.

Cody13_2012

Yeah but that could change and its kind of the samething. Your paying for something that was once free and now someone wants to charge for it.

you buy bottled water, right?

once upon a time water was free at the town well, or you can go in anyplace today and get a free glass of water.

soooo, lets sue the bottled water companies.

That wouldn't work. Thats not even close to the case that I brought up. Getting water for free from a river or well and buying bottled water from a store are two completely different things. Thats absurd.

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#20 abdelmessih101
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[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

Yeah but that could change and its kind of the samething. Your paying for something that was once free and now someone wants to charge for it.

you buy bottled water, right?

once upon a time water was free at the town well, or you can go in anyplace today and get a free glass of water.

soooo, lets sue the bottled water companies.

That wouldn't work. Thats not even close to the case that I brought up. Getting water for free from a river or well and buying bottled water from a store are two completely different things. Thats absurd.

Is it as absurd as suing a company for charging a fee on a service they provide?
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#21 deactivated-59506133570df
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[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

Yeah but that could change and its kind of the samething. Your paying for something that was once free and now someone wants to charge for it.

Sonwhy

you buy bottled water, right?

once upon a time water was free at the town well, or you can go in anyplace today and get a free glass of water.

soooo, lets sue the bottled water companies.

That wouldn't work. Thats not even close to the case that I brought up. Getting water for free from a river or well and buying bottled water from a store are two completely different things. Thats absurd.

that's what everyone thinks about your wanting to sue sony, so in reality, those two things are exactly the same.

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#22 Sonwhy
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[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"] I wouldn't plan on going to law school if I were you . . . abdelmessih101

Don't worry about that. Being a lawyer is a way too boring and alot of law jobs are commision based and if I going to law school I want to walk out with that tom cruise kind of job and 95% of the time for most lawyers that just got out don't get that kind of work.

That's not at all my point . . . In fact, that post basically sums up my point. But you don't know what that is, so don't worry about it too much. :P

Your basically stating that I have no idea of the laws upon which the society that I live in. I know a fair amount of law and I'm not going to try to convince someone who has no idea of the law.

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#23 Denji
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I think the TC needs to quit before he sinks:P lol

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#24 double_heist
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Why do people (mostly Americans though, which I have noticed) need to solve everything through lawsuits? >_>
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#25 Sonwhy
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[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

you buy bottled water, right?

once upon a time water was free at the town well, or you can go in anyplace today and get a free glass of water.

soooo, lets sue the bottled water companies.

Cody13_2012

That wouldn't work. Thats not even close to the case that I brought up. Getting water for free from a river or well and buying bottled water from a store are two completely different things. Thats absurd.

that's what everyone thinks about your wanting to sue sony, so in reality, those two things are exactly the same.

You speak for yourself but you think you speak for everyone. When you yourself don't even know what your talking about. So why even bother reading another unintelligent post.

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#26 abdelmessih101
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[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

you buy bottled water, right?

once upon a time water was free at the town well, or you can go in anyplace today and get a free glass of water.

soooo, lets sue the bottled water companies.

That wouldn't work. Thats not even close to the case that I brought up. Getting water for free from a river or well and buying bottled water from a store are two completely different things. Thats absurd.

that's what everyone thinks about your wanting to sue sony, so in reality, those two things are exactly the same.

Apparently, the TC doesn't understand the basic principles of capitalism. :? I'd stop coming back to this thread, but each comment the TC posts are exponentially more ridiculous than the previous one, and it's quite funny.
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#27 Lyphe2k
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I'd understand if they wanted to make a tiny profit. Like charging either a one time fee or a very small yearly fee of $10 but that's as far as I bend. Oh but I'd better see improvements, not that it's so bad right now but a few useless features that I can say the PS3 has to download but would really never ever even use would suffice.
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#28 Furi-Kun
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I don't think I like the direction this thread is heading...

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[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

That wouldn't work. Thats not even close to the case that I brought up. Getting water for free from a river or well and buying bottled water from a store are two completely different things. Thats absurd.

abdelmessih101

that's what everyone thinks about your wanting to sue sony, so in reality, those two things are exactly the same.

Apparently, the TC doesn't understand the basic principles of capitalism. :? I'd stop coming back to this thread, but each comment the TC posts are exponentially more ridiculous than the previous one, and it's quite funny.

exatly what I think:lol:

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#30 UT_Wrestler
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Would you support a lawsuit against sony?

Sonwhy
It's their business and their network, they can run it however the hell they want. When businesses treat their customers unfairly, they're already punished by losing customers to competitors, so a lawsuit would be completely unnecessary (aside from being illegal on the grounds you mention)
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#31 abdelmessih101
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You speak for yourself but you think you speak for everyone. When you yourself don't even know what your talking about.

Sonwhy

:lol: I think the TC is addressing himself here!! :lol:

So why even bother reading another unintelligent post?

Sonwhy

I keep asking myself the same thing every time I visit this thread!! :lol:

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Why do people (mostly Americans though, which I have noticed) need to solve everything through lawsuits? >_>double_heist

I'm American, and I hate all of the suing. People here in America are so sue happy, anything to not have to work I guess...

it disgusts me that someone would ruin someone elses life so they can be a worthless piece of crap that doesn't amount to anything.

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[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

That wouldn't work. Thats not even close to the case that I brought up. Getting water for free from a river or well and buying bottled water from a store are two completely different things. Thats absurd.

Sonwhy

that's what everyone thinks about your wanting to sue sony, so in reality, those two things are exactly the same.

You speak for yourself but you think you speak for everyone. When you yourself don't even know what your talking about. So why even bother reading another unintelligent post.

name me one other person who has agreed with you.

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#34 Denji
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I don't think I like the direction this thread is heading...

Furi-Kun

Furi, even the TC didn't even know where he was heading with this topic:lol:

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#35 abdelmessih101
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[QUOTE="Denji"]

[QUOTE="Furi-Kun"]

I don't think I like the direction this thread is heading...

Furi, even the TC didn't even know where he was heading with this topic:lol:

I gotta stick around to see how this thread ends up! :lol:
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[QUOTE="Furi-Kun"]

I don't think I like the direction this thread is heading...

Denji

Furi, even the TC didn't even know where he was heading with this topic:lol:

he doesn't seem to understand how basic laws work...

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#37 abdelmessih101
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[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

that's what everyone thinks about your wanting to sue sony, so in reality, those two things are exactly the same.

You speak for yourself but you think you speak for everyone. When you yourself don't even know what your talking about. So why even bother reading another unintelligent post.

name me one other person who has agreed with you.

Come on Cody, that's way too much to ask for. Be reasonable. :lol:
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#38 Sonwhy
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[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

that's what everyone thinks about your wanting to sue sony, so in reality, those two things are exactly the same.

Cody13_2012

You speak for yourself but you think you speak for everyone. When you yourself don't even know what your talking about. So why even bother reading another unintelligent post.

name me one other person who has agreed with you.

My brother and several of my friends say they would be greatly displeased.

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[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

You speak for yourself but you think you speak for everyone. When you yourself don't even know what your talking about. So why even bother reading another unintelligent post.

abdelmessih101

name me one other person who has agreed with you.

Come on Cody, that's way too much to ask for. Be reasonable. :lol:

ok, name me another person who has halfway agreed with the TC:lol:

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#40 abdelmessih101
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I'm not going to try to convince someone who has no idea of the law.

Sonwhy

That's why I stopped trying! :lol:

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[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

You speak for yourself but you think you speak for everyone. When you yourself don't even know what your talking about. So why even bother reading another unintelligent post.

Sonwhy

name me one other person who has agreed with you.

My brother and several of my friends say they would be greatly displeased.

So would I, but suing wouldn't do a thing, except make an *** out of yourself and lose a ton of money paying for a lawyer.

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#42 Denji
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[QUOTE="Denji"]

[QUOTE="Furi-Kun"]

I don't think I like the direction this thread is heading...

abdelmessih101

Furi, even the TC didn't even know where he was heading with this topic:lol:

I gotta stick around to see how this thread ends up! :lol:

That's why I'm here:lol:

I want to see how far this kid sinks while trying to convince himself how intelligent he thinks he is:P

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#43 G-Legend
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If they charged their service would be re-vamped obviously. The reason why M$ charges is because they run their own servers for their games which is how they have a lot of their features. If Sony started to charge they would have to run their own servers as well. and no I wouldn't file a lawsuit that's just stupid. Simple thing would be to either pay for the service or not pay.

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#44 abdelmessih101
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[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

You speak for yourself but you think you speak for everyone. When you yourself don't even know what your talking about. So why even bother reading another unintelligent post.

name me one other person who has agreed with you.

My brother and several of my friends say they would be greatly displeased.

"Being greatly displeased" and being "willing to pursue a lawsuit against Sony" are far from being the same thing, TC. Nice try though. ;) I think we all would be greatly displeased, yet only someone who felt like wasting an abundance of time and money would sue Sony. :lol:
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#45 Sonwhy
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[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

name me one other person who has agreed with you.

Cody13_2012

My brother and several of my friends say they would be greatly displeased.

So would I, but suing wouldn't do a thing, except make an *** out of yourself and lose a ton of money paying for a lawyer.

Maybe...maybe not. There is all kinds of law suits out there that don't turn out perfect(the way the system was intended to be used) and are not even good lawsuits to begin with when you don't even have the right person being sent to jail over a crime they didn't even commit. Also, some people have tons of money to blow and all it takes is one law suit. If someone asked me to sign a petition for it I would.

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#46 deactivated-59506133570df
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[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

My brother and several of my friends say they would be greatly displeased.

Sonwhy

So would I, but suing wouldn't do a thing, except make an *** out of yourself and lose a ton of money paying for a lawyer.

Maybe...maybe not. There is all kinds of law suits out there that don't turn out perfect(the way the system was intended to be used) and are not even good lawsuits to begin with when you don't even have the right person being sent to jail over a crime they didn't even commit. Also, some people have tons of money to blow and all it takes is one law suit. If someone asked me to sign a petition for it I would.

that would end up like the people who tried to sue McDonalds for making them fat:lol:

OK, here's a better example.

Just about anywhere you get free parking, but at certain places they charge you for parking, so why not sue them?

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#47 Denji
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[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

My brother and several of my friends say they would be greatly displeased.

Sonwhy

So would I, but suing wouldn't do a thing, except make an *** out of yourself and lose a ton of money paying for a lawyer.

Maybe...maybe not. There is all kinds of law suits out there that don't turn out perfect(the way the system was intended to be used) and are not even good lawsuits to begin with when you don't even have the right person being sent to jail over a crime they didn't even commit. Also, some people have tons of money to blow and all it takes is one law suit. If someone asked me to sign a petition for it I would.

Then what would be the point of suing Sony if you had that "said money"?

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#48 DethSkematik
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Exacly what would a lawsuit accomplish? To me, it's not that different than someone suing a business for raising the prices on their products. I mean, it's just business...it's not like they're breaking any laws here or anything ;)
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#49 deactivated-5bc291bf3d647
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[QUOTE="Cody13_2012"]

[QUOTE="Sonwhy"]

My brother and several of my friends say they would be greatly displeased.

Sonwhy

So would I, but suing wouldn't do a thing, except make an *** out of yourself and lose a ton of money paying for a lawyer.

Maybe...maybe not. There is all kinds of law suits out there that don't turn out perfect(the way the system was intended to be used) and are not even good lawsuits to begin with when you don't even have the right person being sent to jail over a crime they didn't even commit. Also, some people have tons of money to blow and all it takes is one law suit. If someone asked me to sign a petition for it I would.

ok man heres wat ur saying instead of paying a 40-50$ a year fee u wanna sue sony for thousands of dollars against a company worth billions that can hire whichever laywer they want... and a petition is no where close to a lawsuit lol
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#50 StealthKnife
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it wont happen