Can you get 1080p

You're games will look better in HDMI

I went from 720p component to 720p HDMI and threre is a huge improvment in picture crispness
Not to mention you don't need to buy an audio cable for surround sound with HDMI

I'm not sure but I think the maximum you can get is 1080i with component cables

No you can't get to 1080p with component cables only through HDMI is it possible...

"The Baddest B**** To Ever Take A Breath Of Life"

No you can't get to 1080p with component cables only through HDMI is it possible...

Swavo69420

o by the way hows that cocance cowboys movie is it wort a rental?

"o by the way hows that cocance cowboys movie is it wort a rental?"

It's awesome...

But I thought the sequel was better (It answered alot of unanswered questions from the 1st one)...

"The Baddest B**** To Ever Take A Breath Of Life"

No you can't get to 1080p with component cables only through HDMI is it possible...

Swavo69420

On the PS3 at least, but yes it is true.

[QUOTE="Swavo69420"]

No you can't get to 1080p with component cables only through HDMI is it possible...

Large_Soda

On the PS3 at least, but yes it is true.

So on the ps3 you can get 1080p with componet cables? any liks

[QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="Swavo69420"]

No you can't get to 1080p with component cables only through HDMI is it possible...

skullgangs

On the PS3 at least, but yes it is true.

So on the ps3 you can get 1080p with componet cables? any liks

Sorry for the confusion, I was agreeing withSwavo69420 that the PS3 does not output 1080p over component. I meant that the 360 and some other devices CAN do 1080p over component, just wanted to highlight that it was technically possible. Somewhat irrelevant I suppose.

No 1080p via component cables. And if HDMI makes a difference, typically only with fixed-pixel displays (ie LCD or plasma)bwrector

Just like he said.

No 1080P available to ps3 if you only have components cable. HDMI provides both better pictures and sound if you have the equipment to hook it up.

HDCP is probably the biggest reason you don't see 1080p via Component. There's some copywrite issue with analog (component) video but they are fine with digital (HDMI) because it allows HDCP (high definition copywrite protection?). The reason you've seen it on the 360 is (and I get flack for this every time, but...) because it's upscaled 720p. It has been stated time and time again that this is the case, plus every time people tell me it's full HD can't explain why, even with an HDMI cable, I can't view HD-DVDs in anything but 1080i. My console automatically drops to 1080i when i view an HD-DVD.

Unless it's in HDMI, you will see tons of issues in 1080p for both games and movies because of input HDCP.

Hey there,

I'm from the official PS3 EU forums with about 6000 posts, and I am hoping to move aswell to this forum.

Most games only support 780p but WipeOutHD will support 1080p and to enjoy these graphics, you will need a HMDI cable. Without this, you cannot play in HD and in 1080p.

To get true 1080p you will need to use a HDMI cable. The systems that say they can do this via component cables are just upscaling from the highest resolution possible. HDMI cables are digital and true HD is a digital signal. Component cables are analog and true progressive scan cannot be transmitted via a analog signal.jimm895

The real reason why they would have you belive that component can't do 1080p is Piracy. The big movie studios do not want component to run a full resolution 1080p signal, as you can copy vary easily (just imagine the online underground piracy rings with full resolution hd movies). They love hdmi because of its copyright protection is built into the cable its self. Altho it has been broken its not that easy to do and is not wide spread. Component has enough bandwidth to run a 1080p signal, altho I will say hdmi does look sharper and have better color detail when compared side by side.

[QUOTE="jimm895"]To get true 1080p you will need to use a HDMI cable. The systems that say they can do this via component cables are just upscaling from the highest resolution possible. HDMI cables are digital and true HD is a digital signal. Component cables are analog and true progressive scan cannot be transmitted via a analog signal.gagit811

Exactly.

HDCP is probably the biggest reason you don't see 1080p via Component. There's some copywrite issue with analog (component) video but they are fine with digital (HDMI) because it allows HDCP (high definition copywrite protection?). The reason you've seen it on the 360 is (and I get flack for this every time, but...) because it's upscaled 720p. It has been stated time and time again that this is the case, plus every time people tell me it's full HD can't explain why, even with an HDMI cable, I can't view HD-DVDs in anything but 1080i. My console automatically drops to 1080i when i view an HD-DVD.

Unless it's in HDMI, you will see tons of issues in 1080p for both games and movies because of input HDCP.

spydersvenom7

The 360 is more than capable of outputting 1080p for games over component and it has, with Virtua Tennis 3. It is not upscaled, it is actually being rendered in 1080p.

As for HD-DVDs not playing in 1080p over HDMI? Well I haven't had my HD DVD player since January and at that time I was using my VGA adapter to get the signal to the TV and that was in 1080p. So I can't explain why you are unable to do it.

And for the record HDCP stands for High Definition Content Protection.

[QUOTE="spydersvenom7"]

HDCP is probably the biggest reason you don't see 1080p via Component. There's some copywrite issue with analog (component) video but they are fine with digital (HDMI) because it allows HDCP (high definition copywrite protection?). The reason you've seen it on the 360 is (and I get flack for this every time, but...) because it's upscaled 720p. It has been stated time and time again that this is the case, plus every time people tell me it's full HD can't explain why, even with an HDMI cable, I can't view HD-DVDs in anything but 1080i. My console automatically drops to 1080i when i view an HD-DVD.

Unless it's in HDMI, you will see tons of issues in 1080p for both games and movies because of input HDCP.

Large_Soda

The 360 is more than capable of outputting 1080p for games over component and it has, with Virtua Tennis 3. It is not upscaled, it is actually being rendered in 1080p.

As for HD-DVDs not playing in 1080p over HDMI? Well I haven't had my HD DVD player since January and at that time I was using my VGA adapter to get the signal to the TV and that was in 1080p. So I can't explain why you are unable to do it.

And for the record HDCP stands for High Definition Content Protection.

[QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="spydersvenom7"]

HDCP is probably the biggest reason you don't see 1080p via Component. There's some copywrite issue with analog (component) video but they are fine with digital (HDMI) because it allows HDCP (high definition copywrite protection?). The reason you've seen it on the 360 is (and I get flack for this every time, but...) because it's upscaled 720p. It has been stated time and time again that this is the case, plus every time people tell me it's full HD can't explain why, even with an HDMI cable, I can't view HD-DVDs in anything but 1080i. My console automatically drops to 1080i when i view an HD-DVD.

Unless it's in HDMI, you will see tons of issues in 1080p for both games and movies because of input HDCP.

gagit811

The 360 is more than capable of outputting 1080p for games over component and it has, with Virtua Tennis 3. It is not upscaled, it is actually being rendered in 1080p.

As for HD-DVDs not playing in 1080p over HDMI? Well I haven't had my HD DVD player since January and at that time I was using my VGA adapter to get the signal to the TV and that was in 1080p. So I can't explain why you are unable to do it.

And for the record HDCP stands for High Definition Content Protection.

Cool, now if you'd just go through my post and highlight where I said it could that would be swell.

[QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="spydersvenom7"]

HDCP is probably the biggest reason you don't see 1080p via Component. There's some copywrite issue with analog (component) video but they are fine with digital (HDMI) because it allows HDCP (high definition copywrite protection?). The reason you've seen it on the 360 is (and I get flack for this every time, but...) because it's upscaled 720p. It has been stated time and time again that this is the case, plus every time people tell me it's full HD can't explain why, even with an HDMI cable, I can't view HD-DVDs in anything but 1080i. My console automatically drops to 1080i when i view an HD-DVD.

Unless it's in HDMI, you will see tons of issues in 1080p for both games and movies because of input HDCP.

gagit811

The 360 is more than capable of outputting 1080p for games over component and it has, with Virtua Tennis 3. It is not upscaled, it is actually being rendered in 1080p.

As for HD-DVDs not playing in 1080p over HDMI? Well I haven't had my HD DVD player since January and at that time I was using my VGA adapter to get the signal to the TV and that was in 1080p. So I can't explain why you are unable to do it.

And for the record HDCP stands for High Definition Content Protection.

not saying your wrong but i dont see how component cables have anything to do with piracy. Few TV's support 1080p through component but they are out there. Although wake up, dont you think the lack of support for component is due to wanting to push HDMI devices. History - composite, s-video,Component,DVI, HDMI . each better than the previous and require purchases.

Cool, now if you'd just go through my post and highlight where I said it could that would be swell.

Large_Soda

not saying your wrong but i dont see how component cables have anything to do with piracy. Few TV's support 1080p through component but they are out there. Although wake up, dont you think the lack of support for component is due to wanting to push HDMI devices. History - composite, s-video,Component,DVI, HDMI . each better than the previous and require purchases. CorporateHammer

[QUOTE="Large_Soda"]

Cool, now if you'd just go through my post and highlight where I said it could that would be swell.

gagit811

Well I was just off-put by quoting me, so I took it as you correcting me on something I never said. But anyway, I was aware of that, not a big deal though.

HDMI will display a much better picture than the composite cables. Rty it, you'll like it.

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[QUOTE="jimm895"]To get true 1080p you will need to use a HDMI cable. The systems that say they can do this via component cables are just upscaling from the highest resolution possible. HDMI cables are digital and true HD is a digital signal. Component cables are analog and true progressive scan cannot be transmitted via a analog signal.gagit811

Yea am really getting sick of that ture hd stuff, am starting to think it's a marketing ploy also. O by the way got any links?

To get true 1080p you will need to use a HDMI cable. The systems that say they can do this via component cables are just upscaling from the highest resolution possible. HDMI cables are digital and true HD is a digital signal. Component cables are analog and true progressive scan cannot be transmitted via a analog signal.jimm895

rofl I don't think component cables are analog you must be thinking composite cables.

[QUOTE="jimm895"]To get true 1080p you will need to use a HDMI cable. The systems that say they can do this via component cables are just upscaling from the highest resolution possible. HDMI cables are digital and true HD is a digital signal. Component cables are analog and true progressive scan cannot be transmitted via a analog signal.skullgangs

rofl I don't think component cables are analog you must be thinking composite cables.

No, component and composite are both analog cables. So you can pick yourself up off the floor.

with component cables on ps3? Ifso whats the purpose of HDMI skullgangs

Component cables max out on 1080i not p.For progressive resoltuions you need HDMI cable.Theres alot of difference between the quality and purpose of HDmi is basically to deliver you FULL HD 1080 picture.

[QUOTE="skullgangs"]with component cables on ps3? Ifso whats the purpose of HDMI lesner87

Component cables max out on 1080i not p.For progressive resoltuions you need HDMI cable.Theres alot of difference between the quality and purpose of HDmi is basically to deliver you FULL HD 1080 picture.

They do not max out at 1080i, they are capable of delivering 1080p just fine.There are however other restrictions that keep the PS3 from sending a 1080p signal via component.

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[QUOTE="skullgangs"]with component cables on ps3? Ifso whats the purpose of HDMI Large_Soda

Component cables max out on 1080i not p.For progressive resoltuions you need HDMI cable.Theres alot of difference between the quality and purpose of HDmi is basically to deliver you FULL HD 1080 picture.

They do not max out at 1080i, they are capable of delivering 1080p just fine.There are however other restrictions that keep the PS3 from sending a 1080p signal via component.

I own one you cant view 1080p on component av cable.

There only two differences between Component and HDMI. One is analog (component), and one is digital (hdmi). Also, HDMI supports audio and video. The difference you may experience with picture quality depends on your equipment, not your cables. So in some cases, HDMI may not look as good as Component and vice versa. Obviously, cheap cables won't perform as well as let's say Monster Cables. The component cables do support 1080p but the information travels slower because you get 100% of video signal. With HDMI you may lose some of the video signal due to the fact that it's digital, and when it's lost it's lost. With the analog connection the information slows down and speeds up to maintain 100% of the signal.jshaas

What you said is almost entirely true, except a couple of points:

1. For analog cable, the better the cable, the better the picture quality. But for HDMI cables, there are no difference. They either work or not.

2. To recreate the best pictures with analog cable, it will be VERY VERY expensive. Therefore, it becomes unpractical for most consumers. To recreate the best pictures with HDMI is relatively cheap, and that's why it becomes so popular now.

[QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="lesner87"]

[QUOTE="skullgangs"]with component cables on ps3? Ifso whats the purpose of HDMI lesner87

Component cables max out on 1080i not p.For progressive resoltuions you need HDMI cable.Theres alot of difference between the quality and purpose of HDmi is basically to deliver you FULL HD 1080 picture.

They do not max out at 1080i, they are capable of delivering 1080p just fine.There are however other restrictions that keep the PS3 from sending a 1080p signal via component.

I own one you cant view 1080p on component av cable.

That's exactly what I said.

HDMI > anything else

I use a HDMI to DVI cable with a PC LCD monitor. If you go to display settings, you can set the RGB settings to FULL and the Superwhite to ON, and it will make a massive difference to the contrast and dynamic range of brightness and black will look much darker, richness of colours improved etc.all my games looked greyish and had a lack of contrast before but now they all look amazing. Someone pointed out (youtube assassins creed comparison) that a lot of graphics comparison videos and photos were done without those settings set on, therefore the xbox 360 version looked better in a lot of game sites... if you set the settings I said, the ps3 version will have just as good if not better contrast and colour. blueblur87

Yes same here.Running a sync master 931bw wiht full HDCP.

OK guys put it this way way my hdtv is 720p/1080i max so SHould I still go out and buy hmdi or just stick with componet?skullgangs

Buy HDMI once and for all because it will give your sound upto 7.1 sorround aswell.And if you get a good tv(in the future maybe)supporting 1080p,you can just use the same cable rather than purchasing a new one.Dont make the same mistake as me ! I bought component for nothing its lying around some where i dont even know.

[QUOTE="skullgangs"]OK guys put it this way way my hdtv is 720p/1080i max so SHould I still go out and buy hmdi or just stick with componet?lesner87

Buy HDMI once and for all because it will give your sound upto 7.1 sorround aswell.And if you get a good tv(in the future maybe)supporting 1080p,you can just use the same cable rather than purchasing a new one.Dont make the same mistake as me ! I bought component for nothing its lying around some where i dont even know.

I dont care about the sound I just want to know if I should waste monye buying hdmi for a tv that does not support 1080p or just stick with my componet.thx