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#1 acsguitar
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Got a Ps3 on saturday. Was all excited because MGS4 had been waiting for a week at my house from Gamefly.

Boy am I dissapointed. I'm not gonna comment on it being GOTY in some circles. I'll just point out what I think stinks about it. I was young when I played MGS on the PS so maybe its the same.

1. LONG LONG LONG LONG MANY MANY MANY Cut Scenes. WAYYYYYY To many!!!

2. Crappy controls. GOOOD GOD. I hope all PS3 games don't have such awful controls

3. Crappy Camera. Seriously its an awful jerky wacky camera

4. Cover system: I guess you can call it that. Really its a strange system where you barely hump a wall whithout being able to tell if you are actually humping the wall. Firing while covering? Yea I guess

5. The 1st person view: Why? And now that we have it why is it so slow to aim.

6. No auto save? WTF. I played like 45 minutes and then forgot to Auto Save and had to do it all over again.

I'm gonna give it a few more shots here but man it would be a shame to have to send it back to Gamefly already.

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#3 hardrocknguy
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disappointed? MSG4 was awesome. haven't you played any of the other Metal Gear Solid games before?
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#4 hazelnutman
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1. Welcome to MGS4. 2. MGS is part of a genre of games where you have the option to sneak by your enemies. Such controls were made for this. Get used to it because it was perfect for me. Maybe you just need to practice. 3. Maybe you just suck at controlling the camera? I thought the camera was great. 4. It's not really meant to be a cover system. More like a peer-around-corners for stealth and a camouflage system. 5. First person view is for precise aiming. If you want a first person experience, then go look elsewhere. 6. Oh wow. Way to take the initiative in finding out beforehand.
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#5 acsguitar
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disappointed? MSG4 was awesome. haven't you played any of the other Metal Gear Solid games before?hardrocknguy

Yea I was probably 14 when I played MGS on the PS1. I REALLY liked it. I don't know what it is. I LOVE the graphics. Think its a cool game but I feel really awkward with it. Maybe its the PS3 controller that I haven't used in a while

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#6 OBonus
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dude i know everyone has there own opinion, so mine for you is "go jump off a bridge"
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#7 Paladin_King
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[QUOTE="acsguitar"]

Got a Ps3 on saturday. Was all excited because MGS4 had been waiting for a week at my house from Gamefly.

Boy am I dissapointed. I'm not gonna comment on it being GOTY in some circles. I'll just point out what I think stinks about it. I was young when I played MGS on the PS so maybe its the same.

1. LONG LONG LONG LONG MANY MANY MANY Cut Scenes. WAYYYYYY To many!!!

2. Crappy controls. GOOOD GOD. I hope all PS3 games don't have such awful controls

3. Crappy Camera. Seriously its an awful jerky wacky camera

4. Cover system: I guess you can call it that. Really its a strange system where you barely hump a wall whithout being able to tell if you are actually humping the wall. Firing while covering? Yea I guess

5. The 1st person view: Why? And now that we have it why is it so slow to aim.

6. No auto save? WTF. I played like 45 minutes and then forgot to Auto Save and had to do it all over again.

I'm gonna give it a few more shots here but man it would be a shame to have to send it back to Gamefly already.

It just isn't the game for you. You clearly had no idea what you were getting into. At the very least, you should've known about the cutscenes. And why are the controls crappy? elaborate? i had no problems with it or the camera and the cover system was manageable as well. I mean, it wasn't Gears as far as cover goes, but then, that's pretty much the biggest mechanic IN gears so i can't fault it for that.
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#8 GreenGoblin2099
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Got a Ps3 on saturday. Was all excited because MGS4 had been waiting for a week at my house from Gamefly.

Boy am I dissapointed. I'm not gonna comment on it being GOTY in some circles. I'll just point out what I think stinks about it. I was young when I played MGS on the PS so maybe its the same.

1. LONG LONG LONG LONG MANY MANY MANY Cut Scenes. WAYYYYYY To many!!!

2. Crappy controls. GOOOD GOD. I hope all PS3 games don't have such awful controls

3. Crappy Camera. Seriously its an awful jerky wacky camera

4. Cover system: I guess you can call it that. Really its a strange system where you barely hump a wall whithout being able to tell if you are actually humping the wall. Firing while covering? Yea I guess

5. The 1st person view: Why? And now that we have it why is it so slow to aim.

6. No auto save? WTF. I played like 45 minutes and then forgot to Auto Save and had to do it all over again.

I'm gonna give it a few more shots here but man it would be a shame to have to send it back to Gamefly already.

acsguitar

1- I have no beef with a lot of long cutscenes as long as they are cool. I guess most of them are ok, but some of them bored me and I considered myself a big MGS fan before. Now I'm still a fan, but I don't get to praise MGS4 as much a s many people.

2- I don't know what is so crappy about them... except the FPS mode, but this is no FPS, so who cares??

3- Camera is the same as in MGS3 Subsistance, and I don't think is crappy at all. It's a shame they didn't include the good ol bird side view from past games though.

4- Yeah, I didn't used it at all tbh. I prefer the old style of flatten to walls.

5- Read 2.

6- No MGS has auto-save. This one wasn't a problem for me or any true MGS fan.

All in all, I can say that you're either a newbie for MGS or a troll. But as I don't know anything about you, I'll just assume is the former so well, that sucks. It could0ve been a better experience if you were a MGS fan tbh.

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#9 PS3videos
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So this person didn't like the game. So what? I personally think it's one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. But that's me. To each his own.
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#10 sinistergoggles
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Wow.. :lol: Just return the game, please.
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#11 avataraang1
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Got a Ps3 on saturday. Was all excited because MGS4 had been waiting for a week at my house from Gamefly.

Boy am I dissapointed. I'm not gonna comment on it being GOTY in some circles. I'll just point out what I think stinks about it. I was young when I played MGS on the PS so maybe its the same.

1. LONG LONG LONG LONG MANY MANY MANY Cut Scenes. WAYYYYYY To many!!!

2. Crappy controls. GOOOD GOD. I hope all PS3 games don't have such awful controls

3. Crappy Camera. Seriously its an awful jerky wacky camera

4. Cover system: I guess you can call it that. Really its a strange system where you barely hump a wall whithout being able to tell if you are actually humping the wall. Firing while covering? Yea I guess

5. The 1st person view: Why? And now that we have it why is it so slow to aim.

6. No auto save? WTF. I played like 45 minutes and then forgot to Auto Save and had to do it all over again.

I'm gonna give it a few more shots here but man it would be a shame to have to send it back to Gamefly already.

acsguitar
1-Yep 2-What?! 3-Same as always. Welcome to third person view 4-Same as always except your back isnt on the wall your side is 5-Click triangle 6-Sorry
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#12 taplok
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The MGS series has always had long cutscenes, it's a part of the story. i played all the MGS games on the PS 1,2 and 3, i loved the series and everything about it... and that's my opinion, i respect yours as well...

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#13 CJ37
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On the bright side you just paid $60 for one of the best CGI movies ever made
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#14 theMarshell
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I only played two of them the first one and portable ops, and I personally love MGS4 it did start off boring and I was thinking the same as you, untill I say the cutscene of the B&B core ans I was hooked.
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#15 burstlimit514
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Like some people like us MGS is not the game for us. My first was assasins creed!
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#16 eclipse_115_89
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if u enjoyed mgs1 then its surprising why ur complaining about mgs4. anyways the controls do take some time getting used to but once u get the hang of it its just as good as playing with a mouse...well maybe i shouldnt go that far but ive met some ppl who preffer the analog to the mouse. with that said give this game more time and learn to appreciate the CGs. Afterall, i thinkone of the strongest selling points of the metal gear series isnt its gameplay mechanics(even though they're top notch) but its engrossing story. (theres an entire friggin novel on just mgs1 for crying out loud!)

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#17 thebisonx
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but really? You are disappointed with MGS4? It is amazing!

Blasphemy!

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#18 xmitchconnorx
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No taste. Why does some random person have to try to stir up trouble on here by complaining about MGS4 every few weeks?
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#20 Christoph410
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hey relax, if you had already played MGS from PS then you knew already how the game was going to be, everything. And the control....what's up with that, its great!

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#21 Kikouken
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Sounds like your first MGS game...Meaning you know nothing about metal gear.
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#22 orbis_mortis
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I thought the game was excellent and I have played another MGS. You might just have to get used to the controls, because they are different than any other game I have played.
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#23 Puscifer_No1
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Of course the cutscenes are going to be long, this is EPIC!! Besides all controls are weird from the get go, do you honestly think KONAMI would stick to the same layout with each MGS? that would be ridiculous
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#24 Devourment423
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I actually agree, but you should have known before you made this thread that most kids are MGS fanboys and think their opinion of this game is fact. You might also get the elitist telling you that you don't like innovation in games or something like that. Oh well. I haven't read all the responses, but that's just my guess. I didn't really like this game either. Go get Uncharted or something.
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#25 bigd575
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I thought it was such a great game too bad you didn't like it though.
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#26 MusashiSensi
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To each their own. For all of those who are trying to bash him remember that this is his opinion.
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#27 stangen
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As far as I remember the other Metal Gears didn't have such long cut scenes, turned out to be a snooze fest for me too, good thing I decided to rent it first.
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#28 Unassigned
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Got a Ps3 on saturday. Was all excited because MGS4 had been waiting for a week at my house from Gamefly.

Boy am I dissapointed. I'm not gonna comment on it being GOTY in some circles. I'll just point out what I think stinks about it. I was young when I played MGS on the PS so maybe its the same.

1. LONG LONG LONG LONG MANY MANY MANY Cut Scenes. WAYYYYYY To many!!!

2. Crappy controls. GOOOD GOD. I hope all PS3 games don't have such awful controls

3. Crappy Camera. Seriously its an awful jerky wacky camera

4. Cover system: I guess you can call it that. Really its a strange system where you barely hump a wall whithout being able to tell if you are actually humping the wall. Firing while covering? Yea I guess

5. The 1st person view: Why? And now that we have it why is it so slow to aim.

6. No auto save? WTF. I played like 45 minutes and then forgot to Auto Save and had to do it all over again.

I'm gonna give it a few more shots here but man it would be a shame to have to send it back to Gamefly already.

acsguitar

Don't feel bad, you're not the only one who felt this way. Especially about #1 (Long cut scenes). Even on my 60" Sony XBR at 1080p this game only looked "OK". I've seen better. Oh well, there alot of other games on various consoles which I enjoy playing more often.

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#29 Nightrain76
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The only MSG game I have ever played was MGS4. Even though I didn't get the entire story, it is safe to say this is the greatest video game ever made. Mad GTAIV look like a joke.

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#30 Xepheon
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Yes, MGS4 totally sucked. The graphics were only average, because I've seen better in other games like, uh... Disgaea 3. But seriously, if you can handle MGS1, then you can handle MGS4. I lost count of the times in MGS1 when I wanted Snake to lie down, and he stood up instead and got himself killed. MGS3 is actually harder to control than MGS4 due to utilizing so much pressure sensitivity with the buttons. I'd fire an AK-47 accidentally and set off an alarm because I pushed the square button a little too hard. So, as I recall, there was a learning curve for me in each of the MGS games before I was decent at them. If I was you, I would spend some time in the VR training room until I knew what I was doing with the controls. All you need to do is memorize which buttons do what, like any other game. It's just that the MGS games are unique compared to other games, not like COD4 where you can come from another FPS game and already know what you're doing.

I'm almost tempted to think you're trolling here, because there are so many things you can pull off to get through MGS4's levels other than using first person view. Anyway, I think it's fine if people don't like MGS4. The only thing that doesn't make sense is when people get the game and then they're surprised about the length of the cutscenes or that it's actually a stealth/action game. It's like you didn't watch any of the trailers, or maybe download the free demos from the PSN store (MGO demo and MGS4 demo). Don't buy it just because it's the GOTY!

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#31 1uP_OnYou
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I can respect your opinion however it has failed.
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#32 CJ37
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I thought just like you at first. I thought Metal Gear part 4 had failed me but then after reading the posts on this forum I realized that MGS4 was worth another try. I played it again with an open mind and it changed my life.

Give it one more try !

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#33 jpridgen0
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dude i know everyone has there own opinion, so mine for you is "go jump off a bridge"OBonus
lol
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#34 kingmickey2
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Finish the game then come back here and tell us how you feel.
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#35 CJ37
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Eating popcorn while playing may make it a better experience since its like a Game/Movie all-in-one
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#36 jjtiebuckle
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I definitely agree about the controls. The pre-game show was so intriguing with the demo's and Japanese explanations, but they didn't score the final touchdown. Another reason why I wasn't too fond of MGS 3 either.
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#37 GodofBigMacs
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On the bright side you just paid $60 for one of the best CGI movies ever madeCJ37
Seriously we need to ban you... I'm not even kidding. I'm getting absolutely sick of you and your mockery and complete disregard of us liking the game.
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#38 GatCloudX
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i dont care i love that game
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#39 Warriorboy1990
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[QUOTE="acsguitar"]

Got a Ps3 on saturday. Was all excited because MGS4 had been waiting for a week at my house from Gamefly.

Boy am I dissapointed. I'm not gonna comment on it being GOTY in some circles. I'll just point out what I think stinks about it. I was young when I played MGS on the PS so maybe its the same.

1. LONG LONG LONG LONG MANY MANY MANY Cut Scenes. WAYYYYYY To many!!!

2. Crappy controls. GOOOD GOD. I hope all PS3 games don't have such awful controls

3. Crappy Camera. Seriously its an awful jerky wacky camera

4. Cover system: I guess you can call it that. Really its a strange system where you barely hump a wall whithout being able to tell if you are actually humping the wall. Firing while covering? Yea I guess

5. The 1st person view: Why? And now that we have it why is it so slow to aim.

6. No auto save? WTF. I played like 45 minutes and then forgot to Auto Save and had to do it all over again.

I'm gonna give it a few more shots here but man it would be a shame to have to send it back to Gamefly already.

GreenGoblin2099

1- I have no beef with a lot of long cutscenes as long as they are cool. I guess most of them are ok, but some of them bored me and I considered myself a big MGS fan before. Now I'm still a fan, but I don't get to praise MGS4 as much a s many people.

2- I don't know what is so crappy about them... except the FPS mode, but this is no FPS, so who cares??

3- Camera is the same as in MGS3 Subsistance, and I don't think is crappy at all. It's a shame they didn't include the good ol bird side view from past games though.

4- Yeah, I didn't used it at all tbh. I prefer the old style of flatten to walls.

5- Read 2.

6- No MGS has auto-save. This one wasn't a problem for me or any true MGS fan.

All in all, I can say that you're either a newbie for MGS or a troll. But as I don't know anything about you, I'll just assume is the former so well, that sucks. It could0ve been a better experience if you were a MGS fan tbh.

MGS4 DOES have auto save, it just auto saves after every act!
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#40 Tree06
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Is the TC serious? I mean it was the only game that I bought for the PS3. Actually I got it for free brand new..don't ask. Anyway I loved every second of the game. It was one of the main selling points for me. I mean the cutscenes were long but they needed. You couldn't compress 25mins into a short 5min cutscene. But maybe you should give it another shot, it really is a great game.
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#41 GodofBigMacs
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^No, awhile back he created a topic saying how he didn't like MGS4... And to "atone" for it, he is now being completely sarcastic with every post being about trying to mock us for liking the game...
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#42 kingdre
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1. This is MGS we're talking about. Anyone who has played the previous games should be used to long cutscenes. 2. It took some getting used to but I got the hang of it pretty quick. If you think the controls sucks, that's your problem. 3. I didn't notice the camera part. 4. Didn't give the cover system much thought either. 5. If you don't like it, don't use it. It was just added to give the game a different feel. Simple as that. 6. I had the same problem at first. If you don't make a habit of saving every once in a while... that's on you.
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#44 tonesonic
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I actually agree, but you should have known before you made this thread that most kids are MGS fanboys and think their opinion of this game is fact. You might also get the elitist telling you that you don't like innovation in games or something like that. Oh well. I haven't read all the responses, but that's just my guess. I didn't really like this game either. Go get Uncharted or something.Devourment423
Agreed. I retured the game after three seperate goes at getting into it..Sure, the visuals were amazing, the cutscenes looked great and the gameplay was in depth; but the temptation to kill everyone always got the better of me, so I swapped it out for WAW and am loving it. It isn't for everyone, but I have to agree some of the fanboy comments which border on fanatical aggression are pretty good for a laugh... I was well aware of the long cut scenes, the stealth play, the auto game saves et al, but hey, it wasnt the game for me... be careful here though man, MGS certainly has some, erm, enthusiastic fans !!!
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#45 Red_Nine
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6. I had the same problem at first. If you don't make a habit of saving every once in a while... that's on you.kingdre
Only problem with that is that it only saves at the checkpoints. Saving in the middle of an area won't start you off again at that exact point; it'll send you back to the beginning of that area when you start up again.
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#46 bigboss_gil
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yon

[QUOTE="OBonus"]dude i know everyone has there own opinion, so mine for you is "go jump off a bridge"jpridgen0
lol

I dont think anyone could have said it any better.

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#47 savinger
Member since 2007 • 1309 Posts
True about cutscenes, the rest just sounds a bit noobish.
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#48 pigsybum
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i bet the Threadstarter won't enjoy any games coming.
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#49 alstevens83
Member since 2008 • 1462 Posts
Woah, what the cut scenes was too long? Really I thought they was just right for me.
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#50 hotfiree
Member since 2006 • 2185 Posts
I thought the same about the controls, until i got better go practice in the vr area thing on the main menu MGS is known for its long cutscenes so you obviously havent played it before....