To people who say stalker doesnt look good [56k]

[QUOTE="PredatorRules"][QUOTE="Letesmetty"][QUOTE="way2funny"]

[QUOTE="Letesmetty"]Looks bad. way2funny

then what looks good for you?

vegas, yes, but FEAR? fear just has nice gore, and the textures are a lot better in stalker. THe lighting puts FEAR to shame as well

Anyway the game still doesn't look as good as HL2 EP: 1 especially if you factor in stuff like FAKEFACTORY's cinematic mod.

The game looks good to me.

I havend played the game yet. But from what i have seen Stalker looks amazing some few things look kinda strange, but for those who say Hl2 look better. Damn com'on and stop saying that **** i've finished Hl2 to many times :P. and Hl2 look good no doubt but its beginning to look old, say what you want but it is. Fear is also beginning to fall back to the group of dated games and the screen shots i've seen of Stalker is way better then Hl2 or Fear.

And for those who say Oblivion looks good, well i cant say they are wrong cuz all have there meaning about a game and its graphics, but in my opinion Oblivion looks like hell the shadows are bad looking and the characters can look good but mostly they look bad, but the world in oblivion looks absolutly amazing no doubt.

Stalker looks good for the standart today, NOT THE CRYSIS/BIOSHOCK standart they arent out yet so forget about those games for now.

my opinion ;)

it probably has the best lighting/shadowing of all games out right now. Just pull your flashlight out and watch all the shadows it draws on every object and character.greatmax1

Stalker doesnt look good.You have it on high with all the bells and whistles turned on,and prolly a few mods to enhance it even more.But if i take HL2 and turn on its hdr and shadows and stuff it looks way better than crappy STALKER.I have both games,and HL2 beats STALKER in all aspects.And,if you think this beats the 360,you my friend are a dumbass.*cough*GEARS of WAR*cough*.And it doesnt beat the ps3 either,hell god of war 2 on the ps2 looks better.own3r102

I dont have any mods turned on. Yeah no crap i have it on high, do you want me to take some screens of oblivion on low?

 I said it looks better than half of the 360 and ps3 games. Do you know what half is? 

And obviously im not your friend, and you dont understand the point of this thread 

To people who whine about graphics: I'm having fun!ShotGunBunny

Same. 

[QUOTE="XBSHX"]it still doesn't look "good". its running on an engine they made like 4 years ago. It looks ok for a 4 year old engine but there are far better looking games out right now. So if there are games out that look better wouldn't that mean that STALKER doesn't look "good"way2funny

just cause there are better looking games, doesnt mean another game looks bad.

Stalker just doesnt look like its graphically better because of the style, but it is.

[QUOTE="way2funny"]

[QUOTE="XBSHX"]it still doesn't look "good". its running on an engine they made like 4 years ago. It looks ok for a 4 year old engine but there are far better looking games out right now. So if there are games out that look better wouldn't that mean that STALKER doesn't look "good"Meu2k7

just cause there are better looking games, doesnt mean another game looks bad.

Stalker just doesnt look like its graphically better because of the style, but it is.

it has a unique style, and it has to not have some graphical effects because of the huge envirement, but for what it is, stalker looks good, and has some of the best effects in pc gaming 

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="way2funny"]

[QUOTE="XBSHX"]it still doesn't look "good". its running on an engine they made like 4 years ago. It looks ok for a 4 year old engine but there are far better looking games out right now. So if there are games out that look better wouldn't that mean that STALKER doesn't look "good"way2funny

just cause there are better looking games, doesnt mean another game looks bad.

Stalker just doesnt look like its graphically better because of the style, but it is.

it has a unique style, and it has to not have some graphical effects because of the huge envirement, but for what it is, stalker looks good, and has some of the best effects in pc gaming

The mud textures look dated. On the other hand, the tiles look gorgeous. Vfanek

[QUOTE="way2funny"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="way2funny"]

[QUOTE="XBSHX"]it still doesn't look "good". its running on an engine they made like 4 years ago. It looks ok for a 4 year old engine but there are far better looking games out right now. So if there are games out that look better wouldn't that mean that STALKER doesn't look "good"onemic

just cause there are better looking games, doesnt mean another game looks bad.

Stalker just doesnt look like its graphically better because of the style, but it is.

it has a unique style, and it has to not have some graphical effects because of the huge envirement, but for what it is, stalker looks good, and has some of the best effects in pc gaming

yeah not oblivion huge, but what other FPS has such a big enviroment and looks as good and has as many effects? Other than crysis. 

How about people stop uselessly scrutinizing the graphics and just play the 6 year old game for what it is.

I've seen more user-submitted pics of close ups on bricks and ceramic tiles in the game than Britney spears upskirt shots, and that's bad.

the engine extensively uses normal mapping and dynamic lighting as its primary features, so does any current gen game, its just the low poly models, slightly blurred and outdated textures, and gritty atmosphere of the overall look that make it look like its ugly, when its really a decent looking game, far better looking and more technical than most fps engines out there.

take normal mapping away from any game, especially something like gears of war or doom3, and you loose close to 100% of the texture detail. All the detail that has been transferred from an 8million polygon model to a 5000polygon in-game character model has been done so with normal maps, and this game does a good job with that, especially on the scenery front. I've listed doom3 as an example because that game especially depended on normal mapping and the lighting used in conjunction with Nmapping, because if you look at polycounts on models and static meshes, they are abnormally low.

If you don't know what normal mapping is or how it works, you have no place discussing the potential of a current/next gen gaming engine, as it is one of the primary features of any of such game's engine.

anyway, its a good looking game, play it, if you don't think it looks good, no one will hold that against you, just don't b*tch so much and play something else you think looks good enough for you.

It does look good, but the grey surrounding just don't do justice to it. A game even with a weaker graphics engine might appear prettier if it includes some scifi setting with huge glass buildings, big breasted leadies and several suns and moons in the sky.

For e.g. this screenshot looks pretty detailed and realistic to me:

But everything is grey, and the crosshair and interface are ugly, or at least old fashioned. You have to look much closer to notice the good things.

Imo I say STALKER is a hell of a game and some of u ppl should shut up and be happy u can run games like these maxed out. u cant compare stalker which is an open-environment game(like oblivion, though personally stalker > oblivion) to HL.... HL is a linear game... hello!? and still i say stalker is far better than HL of course with maybe a few negative things.

Imo I say STALKER is a hell of a game and some of u ppl should shut up and be happy u can run games like these maxed out. u cant compare stalker which is an open-environment game(like oblivion, though personally stalker > oblivion) to HL.... HL is a linear game... hello!? and still i say stalker is far better than HL of course with maybe a few negative things.

AlexRadu

[QUOTE="AlexRadu"]

Imo I say STALKER is a hell of a game and some of u ppl should shut up and be happy u can run games like these maxed out. u cant compare stalker which is an open-environment game(like oblivion, though personally stalker > oblivion) to HL.... HL is a linear game... hello!? and still i say stalker is far better than HL of course with maybe a few negative things.

onemic

I suggest you re-read his post. Slowly. He's not saying open-ended, but open-environment, as opposed to a game that renders corridor-like levels. STALKER is capable of rendering huge distances, like Oblivion, Far Cry and maybe a few others I don't know about. You can pull out your binoculars and look at a building in the distance and it still looks freaking detailed.

Oh, and on a different note, something amazing I've noticed with STALKER's real-time shadows: They actually follow the bumps and holes created by the parallax mapping; for instance when a shadow is projected on a bumpy concrete wall, look closely at the shadow's edge. It's not a straight line like in Doom3, but rather it's deformed by the parallax map on the concrete wall. That's something I haven't seen in any game to date, and it looks freaking incredible. Correct me if I'm wrong. I think the dynamic lighting, combined with the extensive use of parallax maps, creates the most atmospheric ambience I've ever witnessed in a game. Much better than in for instance HL2, even if the characters in that game look much more lifelike.

Cheers,

T.

It's not DX10 good but it is still "like" HL2. Compare the graphics from STALKER to HL2, STALKER gets a bonus because HL2 is ALSO DX9. And for a bonus to get STALKER, you live in a world that goes on not by player activating triggers but by players just playing if you know what I mean. It's a "free" world compare to HL2 whereas HL2 is a narrow path with story. I'm not saying this to say anything about HL2. I like HL2. I'm just saying this because if you compare those two, not by graphics but overall, I think STALKER will dominate(overall). And as for people who thinks it looks bad, yea it's from 4 years ago and it looks pretty dam good for an engine that was 4 years ago but seriously maybe the engine is ahead of its time and now it comes out just with a DX9 graphics...so? You play games because of graphics? You JUDGE on it? Answer those.

Please don't make examples of Crysis, UTIII, or games that haven't even come out yet. You don't even know the release date for those games! Sure Oblivion looks great, and compare with this, I think they are one of the same. One of the kind that looks great and feels great and plays great. Thought about those? Go play it and see if the graphics in this game make a huge difference.

"Plenty of games look better than this.  This would be consider good I would think a few years ago.  Sorry but if you think this looks "good" then your standards are low.  However, I imagine it's still a great game."

Funny how the homos keep saying this, yet fail to give en example of a game.

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Game looks great, nice screens man.

[QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="AlexRadu"] Oh, and on a different note, something amazing I've noticed with STALKER's real-time shadows: They actually follow the bumps and holes created by the parallax mapping; for instance when a shadow is projected on a bumpy concrete wall, look closely at the shadow's edge. It's not a straight line like in Doom3, but rather it's deformed by the parallax map on the concrete wall. That's something I haven't seen in any game to date, and it looks freaking incredible. Correct me if I'm wrong. I think the dynamic lighting, combined with the extensive use of parallax maps, creates the most atmospheric ambience I've ever witnessed in a game. Much better than in for instance HL2, even if the characters in that game look much more lifelike.

 

Cheers,

T.

tomjacobs

"Plenty of games look better than this. This would be consider good I would think a few years ago. Sorry but if you think this looks "good" then your standards are low. However, I imagine it's still a great game."

Funny how the homos keep saying this, yet fail to give en example of a game.

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Game looks great, nice screens man.

jeffreee

[QUOTE="jeffreee"]

"Plenty of games look better than this. This would be consider good I would think a few years ago. Sorry but if you think this looks "good" then your standards are low. However, I imagine it's still a great game."

 

Funny how the homos keep saying this, yet fail to give en example of a game.

 

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Game looks great, nice screens man.

onemic

None of those games' effects and lighting match up to STALKERS. The textures are high res, and very detailed, except the style of the graphics are very grainy and washed out, so it looks like it doesnt look as good, but it is. Its just the style to give it a mood. 

Just all this makes me never want to pick up STALKER. Wait, I wasn't planning on picking it up anyways! :D

All this STALKER stuff needs to stop, who cares. STALKER is a decent looking game, nothing more. STALKER is an average game, nothing more. Games like HL2, CoH, ES:4, CRYSIS all are graphically advanced, far more than STALKER. I swear it is sad that only today people care SO SO much about how the game looks, rather than the game itself.

STALKER, it is official, you suck, nothing more, NEVER MORE.

Just all this makes me never want to pick up STALKER. Wait, I wasn't planning on picking it up anyways! :D

All this STALKER stuff needs to stop, who cares. STALKER is a decent looking game, nothing more. STALKER is an average game, nothing more. Games like HL2, CoH, ES:4, CRYSIS all are graphically advanced, far more than STALKER. I swear it is sad that only today people care SO SO much about how the game looks, rather than the game itself.

STALKER, it is official, you suck, nothing more, NEVER MORE.

PaverPopPC

Half life 2 and CoH is not more graphically advanced. You said yourself you havent even picked it up, so how would u know how it really looks, and the atmosphere it creates. I havent seen anything more amazing than a thunderstorm in the middle of the woods in Stalker. Anyway, i made this thread to show people stalker's graphics arent crappy. Its still the most unique shooter ive played in years. 

[QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="jeffreee"]

"Plenty of games look better than this. This would be consider good I would think a few years ago. Sorry but if you think this looks "good" then your standards are low. However, I imagine it's still a great game."

 

Funny how the homos keep saying this, yet fail to give en example of a game.

 

TROLLS...

 

Game looks great, nice screens man.

way2funny

None of those games' effects and lighting match up to STALKERS. The textures are high res, and very detailed, except the style of the graphics are very grainy and washed out, so it looks like it doesnt look as good, but it is. Its just the style to give it a mood.

[QUOTE="way2funny"][QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="jeffreee"]

"Plenty of games look better than this. This would be consider good I would think a few years ago. Sorry but if you think this looks "good" then your standards are low. However, I imagine it's still a great game."

 

Funny how the homos keep saying this, yet fail to give en example of a game.

 

TROLLS...

 

Game looks great, nice screens man.

onemic

None of those games' effects and lighting match up to STALKERS. The textures are high res, and very detailed, except the style of the graphics are very grainy and washed out, so it looks like it doesnt look as good, but it is. Its just the style to give it a mood.

I have FEAR, STALKER stomps it down like nothing. HAve you seen the explosions in stalker? have you seen the fire effects? have you seen the lightening storms? FEAR has great lighting, but everything else about that game is plain, from graphics to gameplay. 

[QUOTE="way2funny"][QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="jeffreee"]

"Plenty of games look better than this. This would be consider good I would think a few years ago. Sorry but if you think this looks "good" then your standards are low. However, I imagine it's still a great game."

Funny how the homos keep saying this, yet fail to give en example of a game.

TROLLS...

Game looks great, nice screens man.

onemic

None of those games' effects and lighting match up to STALKERS. The textures are high res, and very detailed, except the style of the graphics are very grainy and washed out, so it looks like it doesnt look as good, but it is. Its just the style to give it a mood.

Well that is one out of hundreds. Even though I have yet to play STALKER, I had looked at so many posts. Each saying MAJOR Problems! STALKER is not that great! Besides, you make a thread on graphics, yet comment on the atmosphere.

You may want to argue that STALKER is an overall good game, not the graphics. Maybe four years ago, the graphics were as good as they get, not anymore.

It just baffles me that you can say Half Life 2 is not advanced. That game still looks great even to this day, even though it was released 3 years ago. STALKER, however, does not share the same fate.

Well that is one out of hundreds. Even though I have yet to play STALKER, I had looked at so many posts. Each saying MAJOR Problems! STALKER is not that great! Besides, you make a thread on graphics, yet comment on the atmosphere.

You may want to argue that STALKER is an overall good game, not the graphics. Maybe four years ago, the graphics were as good as they get, not anymore.

It just baffles me that you can say Half Life 2 is not advanced. That game still looks great even to this day, even though it was released 3 years ago. STALKER, however, does not share the same fate.

PaverPopPC

i never said half life 2 is not advanced, i just said its not advanced as Stalker.. The atmosphere yes, well the graphics and style used for the graphics make the atmosphere. The only problems with stalker is that its buggy, and i agree, but theres so many unique things to it, that it doesnt matter. I havent had this much fun with an FPS in a while. IT is that great. Yes you have not yet played stalker, so why are you commenting talking about the problems of it when you havent even tried it for yourself? I on the other hand have been playing it for several weeks. 

[QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="way2funny"][QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="jeffreee"]

"Plenty of games look better than this. This would be consider good I would think a few years ago. Sorry but if you think this looks "good" then your standards are low. However, I imagine it's still a great game."

Funny how the homos keep saying this, yet fail to give en example of a game.

TROLLS...

Game looks great, nice screens man.

way2funny

None of those games' effects and lighting match up to STALKERS. The textures are high res, and very detailed, except the style of the graphics are very grainy and washed out, so it looks like it doesnt look as good, but it is. Its just the style to give it a mood.

I have FEAR, STALKER stomps it down like nothing. HAve you seen the explosions in stalker? have you seen the fire effects? have you seen the lightening storms? FEAR has great lighting, but everything else about that game is plain, from graphics to gameplay.

[QUOTE="way2funny"][QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="way2funny"][QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="jeffreee"]

"Plenty of games look better than this. This would be consider good I would think a few years ago. Sorry but if you think this looks "good" then your standards are low. However, I imagine it's still a great game."

 

Funny how the homos keep saying this, yet fail to give en example of a game.

 

TROLLS...

 

Game looks great, nice screens man.

onemic

None of those games' effects and lighting match up to STALKERS. The textures are high res, and very detailed, except the style of the graphics are very grainy and washed out, so it looks like it doesnt look as good, but it is. Its just the style to give it a mood.

I have FEAR, STALKER stomps it down like nothing. HAve you seen the explosions in stalker? have you seen the fire effects? have you seen the lightening storms? FEAR has great lighting, but everything else about that game is plain, from graphics to gameplay.

Fear has really cartoony effects, from gunshots to explosions, STALKER's effects are a lot more realistic.  

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kHExvMtgMLk 

yes, it looks really nice, but the fire looks really cartoony.

im currently looking for a stalker explosion, if i dont find one ill take a screen or a vid 

I completely agree. With how much people were down-talking the graphics, I was ready for a crappy-looking but fun game. Then I installed it, maxed out my graphics, started a new game, and I was floored. I was like, "DAMN". This looks FANTASTIC. It's obviously not the greatest looking game ever, but it looks sooo much better than people seemed to be expecting, and more than competes with any other modern game. Plus, graphics aside, it's one of the best games I've ever played.the_bi99man

Thats all im trying to prove. Im not saying its the best looking game, im just saying its really not as bad as everyone keeps saying, on the contrary, its a pretty darn good looking game in its own right 

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]I completely agree. With how much people were down-talking the graphics, I was ready for a crappy-looking but fun game. Then I installed it, maxed out my graphics, started a new game, and I was floored. I was like, "DAMN". This looks FANTASTIC. It's obviously not the greatest looking game ever, but it looks sooo much better than people seemed to be expecting, and more than competes with any other modern game. Plus, graphics aside, it's one of the best games I've ever played.way2funny

Thats all im trying to prove. Im not saying its the best looking game, im just saying its really not as bad as everyone keeps saying, on the contrary, its a pretty darn good looking game in its own right

[QUOTE="way2funny"]

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]I completely agree. With how much people were down-talking the graphics, I was ready for a crappy-looking but fun game. Then I installed it, maxed out my graphics, started a new game, and I was floored. I was like, "DAMN". This looks FANTASTIC. It's obviously not the greatest looking game ever, but it looks sooo much better than people seemed to be expecting, and more than competes with any other modern game. Plus, graphics aside, it's one of the best games I've ever played.onemic

Thats all im trying to prove. Im not saying its the best looking game, im just saying its really not as bad as everyone keeps saying, on the contrary, its a pretty darn good looking game in its own right

Im not talking about optimization, im just saying if you have the guts to run it, it looks VERY good. Tats the only point im trying to make.  

[QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="way2funny"]

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]I completely agree. With how much people were down-talking the graphics, I was ready for a crappy-looking but fun game. Then I installed it, maxed out my graphics, started a new game, and I was floored. I was like, "DAMN". This looks FANTASTIC. It's obviously not the greatest looking game ever, but it looks sooo much better than people seemed to be expecting, and more than competes with any other modern game. Plus, graphics aside, it's one of the best games I've ever played.way2funny

Thats all im trying to prove. Im not saying its the best looking game, im just saying its really not as bad as everyone keeps saying, on the contrary, its a pretty darn good looking game in its own right

Im not talking about optimization, im just saying if you have the guts to run it, it looks VERY good. Tats the only point im trying to make.

Indoors the game looks equal to Halflife 2: the textures are nice, and environmental effects are nice as well.

Character models are extremely outdated to me however, especially considering how beautiful FEAR's and HL 2's look.  Also, outside environments have a very grainy look and I Have textures on max.

The game still looks fine to me, perfectly acceptable even with all the big-budget beauties we have today (Vegas, Oblivion, FEAR, etc).

Just dont get me started on the poor dynamic lighting STALKER has....that will slow down that fastest of rigs.  I Have a 7600GT and with it on, I got under 25FPs at 1280x1024 or whatever widescreen is.  With it turned off, I get 50+ fps at 1600x1050 with everything on high.  Something is definately wrong with that...