SW: The Old Republic GAMEPLAY !!!

[QUOTE="ekultus"]

looks just as boring as any other mmo

FelipeInside

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="ekultus"]

looks just as boring as any other mmo

millerlight89

I just hope they do like SWG and allow player guilds to create citys on planets. And have our own merchants selling our wares again :P I loved roaming arround on planets on my speeder looking for the best deals arround while being hunted by bounty hunters :D Was one of the first to finish up my holocrons and become a jedi :)

SWG felt huge because everyone in the community played it's part. Smugglers creating spices and slicing/hacking weapons to make them more powerful. Merchants, architects... I hope they bring in some stuff like this. It made the game for me. Not to mention the fun guild vs guild city invasions >:D

Prexxus

WoW in space? Pass. If I want to play WoW, I'll play WoW.KHAndAnime

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]WoW in space? Pass. If I want to play WoW, I'll play WoW.Treflis

I saw this footagea few days ago, looks like the game is really shaping up. As some other folks have pointed out you have to remember they mentioned it was a low level mission - compare that to some of the first quests on WoW and I think it will measure up nicely.

[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] .... but there are alot of FPS that are alike.... and they get bashed for it? [QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="Birdy09"]Its.... WoW re-skinned. nice music score, decent voice acting. I keep saying it, as an MMO its BLEH, but its star wars, so Il be interested anyway. as a game, no credible "WHOANESS" yet... if ever.Birdy09

so lightsabers and laserbeams are WOW... ooooooook. being able to hide behind cover is like wow..... ooooooook. having interactive dialogue cutscenes is like wow....ooooooook. having character classes that branch out into elite classes is like wow.... oooook.

there are just so many problems with you saying the game looks and plays like wow... it just blows my mind. you havent played it, so you have no idea how it plays. watching a video does not make you an expert on the gameplay.... it just doesnt.

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"] You aren't a Jedi unless you have a lightsaber. It'd be interesting if you started off with a generic character and had to do a class quest to become whatever you wanted.Birdy09

Building/constructing one's lightsaber is one of the trials to become a jedi, it happends up to 3 times, 1 for padawan, 1 for knight, and 1 more for master. It is also part of rite and ritual.

Someone at some Bioware meeting years ago: "I have this great idea. Everyone wants a new KOTOR, right? Well, what if we made that but made everything take longer and put it online so we could charge people a subscription fee for it? Wouldn't that be hilarious? Of course we'll have to have optional co-op just so it at least looks like we're making some token amount of effort at actually making it a massively multiplayer game. Hey, we could put roadkill in a bag and it would sell as long as the bag had a 'deep' story and dialog trees. Add in the Star War license and we can't possibly lose. Who's with me?"

im torn apart with the comments above me..T_T hmm..

Dear sweet Jesus, watching that gameplay makes me weep for what could have been an amazing Star Wars KOTOR RPG that instead turned into WoW-combat-in-space. I can't believe people would play this crap, let alone get excited about it. KOTOR 1 and 2 gameplay looked more interesting than this...F1_2004

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]Dear sweet Jesus, watching that gameplay makes me weep for what could have been an amazing Star Wars KOTOR RPG that instead turned into WoW-combat-in-space. I can't believe people would play this crap, let alone get excited about it. KOTOR 1 and 2 gameplay looked more interesting than this...FelipeInside

I wonder at what exact moment in time people started deciding those are the only things that matter in a RPG...especially a massively multiplayer one...

How exactly is that footage impressive? How does it make people get this game from day 1? It looks just like any other mmorpg out there. If it had an ounce of innovation I would consider getting it, but so far it's looking exactly like the other generic mmo garbage.

BDK-Soft

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"]

Building/constructing one's lightsaber is one of the trials to become a jedi, it happends up to 3 times, 1 for padawan, 1 for knight, and 1 more for master. It is also part of rite and ritual.

Roland123_basic

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"] it is NOT wow reskinned.... when was the last time you saw wow have party cutscenes.... or a real story.... or NPC companions that can help with quests.... this game is nothing like WOW besides being an MMO. stop spreading your uninformed drivel.Roland123_basic

so lightsabers and laserbeams are WOW... ooooooook. being able to hide behind cover is like wow..... ooooooook. having interactive dialogue cutscenes is like wow....ooooooook. having character classes that branch out into elite classes is like wow.... oooook.

there are just so many problems with you saying the game looks and plays like wow... it just blows my mind. you havent played it, so you have no idea how it plays. watching a video does not make you an expert on the gameplay.... it just doesnt.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="F1_2004"]Dear sweet Jesus, watching that gameplay makes me weep for what could have been an amazing Star Wars KOTOR RPG that instead turned into WoW-combat-in-space. I can't believe people would play this crap, let alone get excited about it. KOTOR 1 and 2 gameplay looked more interesting than this...StopThePresses

I wonder at what exact moment in time people started deciding those are the only things that matter in a RPG...especially a massively multiplayer one...

You people must be very intelligent to conclude that a game with more than thousand of hours worth of game-play is gonna suck based of two minutes. I salute you.GeneralShowzer

Obviously the people bashing on it weren't expecting MMO gameplay.

People also need to be reminded that WoW is currently the supreme standard for MMO games. Its best to follow a formula that the majority like... instead of catering to just the hardcore crowd.

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] It maybe the starter quest, and then level milestone quests. But this makes me wonder, how are you going to make interesting looking weapons for Jedi's? theyre just straight beams...Birdy09

I don't think you get Star Wars. If you want more variety of weapons then go play a different MMO. People wanting to play Sith or jedi want to fight with LIGHTSABERS. Of course I'm sure the lightsaber you have can be customized to your liking to give your own personality....

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"] different colors, different hilts, different crystals, dual sabers, staff sabers, tonfa sabers..... do you know anything about star wars at all?JangoWuzHere

I don't think you get Star Wars. If you want more variety of weapons then go play a different MMO. People wanting to play Sith or jedi want to fight with LIGHTSABERS. Of course I'm sure the lightsaber you have can be customized to your liking to give your own personality....

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] Yes I do Mr Defensive Fanboy which is why Im wondering how the hell they are going to make interesting weapons for Jedis to obtain? Different colour beams? generic typical Dual / 2 Sided Sabers? zomg hilts that you can barely see because the crap artstyle that encourages zoomed out play like WoW and all its clones. yet another resemblance.Birdy09

I don't think you get Star Wars. If you want more variety of weapons then go play a different MMO. People wanting to play Sith or jedi want to fight with LIGHTSABERS. Of course I'm sure the lightsaber you have can be customized to your liking to give your own personality....

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

I don't think you get Star Wars. If you want more variety of weapons then go play a different MMO. People wanting to play Sith or jedi want to fight with LIGHTSABERS. Of course I'm sure the lightsaber you have can be customized to your liking to give your own personality....

JangoWuzHere

Thats fair enough, but I just cant be that brand loyal when it comes to this genre, seeing how many failures with decent settings and backings there has been, this doesnt seem to be an exception so far. Its a year off, but theyre already marketing and hyping like crazy... within nothing really that interesting... just a WoW Clone with heavy story focus. Star Wars Galaxies direction was much more interesting and ambitious than this.

I predict Guild Wars 2 and Final Fantasy XIV will be overall better MMOs, im willing to be quoted on that for ownage aswell. I'm just that confident that yet again a casual obsessed game is being hyped over 2 real gems.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="Birdy09"] Oh I get Star Wars, but since Vibroblades are pretty much identical to them in terms of mechanics, im just once again thinking ... "how are they going to add variety to this game's weapons" ... but then you hid behind the story excuse again... and I see less and less potential with every little reply. and then ofcourse the WoW Forumlar excuse. which is usually critisized by PC gamers for shooters but now MMOs are exempt from being deep all of a sudden? thats exactly why most MMO enthusiasts are bored of this kind of thing. I think people are desperatly trying to see something amazing out of nothing, thats brand and hype I guess.Birdy09

Thats fair enough, but I just cant be that brand loyal when it comes to this genre, seeing how many failures with decent settings and backings there has been, this doesnt seem to be an exception so far. Its a year off, but theyre already marketing and hyping like crazy... within nothing really that interesting... just a WoW Clone with heavy story focus. Star Wars Galaxies direction was much more interesting and ambitious than this.

I predict Guild Wars 2 and Final Fantasy XIV will be overall better MMOs, im willing to be quoted on that for ownage aswell. I'm just that confident that yet again a casual obsessed game is being hyped over 2 real gems.

The game looks nice! I am so buying this once it's out.

One thing, though, that I do find a bit weird is that the troopers are the main tanks in the game.

The game looks nice! I am so buying this once it's out.

One thing, though, that I do find a bit weird is that the troopers are the main tanks in the game.

dinuattila

They are the ranged tank... Jedi knight's arch class have a melee tank spec

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] Im sorry mate, I looked at that fight and saw WoW, what more do you want me to say? IT looks and plays heavily like WoW. what it does with story and characters inbetween is its unique niche I dont disagree, but the combat looks as basic and drab as every WoW clone out there. Like the other more realistic people have said, what the hell is "Whoa" about this footage?Birdy09

so lightsabers and laserbeams are WOW... ooooooook. being able to hide behind cover is like wow..... ooooooook. having interactive dialogue cutscenes is like wow....ooooooook. having character classes that branch out into elite classes is like wow.... oooook.

there are just so many problems with you saying the game looks and plays like wow... it just blows my mind. you havent played it, so you have no idea how it plays. watching a video does not make you an expert on the gameplay.... it just doesnt.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="Birdy09"] Oh I get Star Wars, but since Vibroblades are pretty much identical to them in terms of mechanics, im just once again thinking ... "how are they going to add variety to this game's weapons" ... but then you hid behind the story excuse again... and I see less and less potential with every little reply. and then ofcourse the WoW Forumlar excuse. which is usually critisized by PC gamers for shooters but now MMOs are exempt from being deep all of a sudden? thats exactly why most MMO enthusiasts are bored of this kind of thing. I think people are desperatly trying to see something amazing out of nothing, thats brand and hype I guess.Birdy09

Thats fair enough, but I just cant be that brand loyal when it comes to this genre, seeing how many failures with decent settings and backings there has been, this doesnt seem to be an exception so far. Its a year off, but theyre already marketing and hyping like crazy... within nothing really that interesting... just a WoW Clone with heavy story focus. Star Wars Galaxies direction was much more interesting and ambitious than this.

I predict Guild Wars 2 and Final Fantasy XIV will be overall better MMOs, im willing to be quoted on that for ownage aswell. I'm just that confident that yet again a casual obsessed game is being hyped over 2 real gems.

you are hyping FF14 over SWTOR??? are you being **** serious? FF11 was less than spectacular considering the mind numbing grind and absolute reliance on party play. after about lvl 30 or so you could not do anything..... at all.... without a party. add the fact that every party needed a white mage and they were almost none existant and the game becomes futile.

FF14 looks to repeat the same mistakes FF11 had. and im basing my opinion on the few videos i have seen of the game.... AND my experience with FF11, which goes a hell of a lot further than you just **** about a 5min video that barely shows anything....

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

I don't think you get Star Wars. If you want more variety of weapons then go play a different MMO. People wanting to play Sith or jedi want to fight with LIGHTSABERS. Of course I'm sure the lightsaber you have can be customized to your liking to give your own personality....

Roland123_basic

or you have no idea what you are talking about and he is absolutely right... star wars fans dont want UBER LEET EPIC LIGHTSABER +12 OF DARK SITHNESS weapons in their game.... they want lightsabers and laser pistols and epic adventures.....

star wars is about story and adventure, not EPIC LEWTZ.... get it through your **** brain. all you are doing is hating on a game you know almost nothing about.

I'm a SW fan, i'm a loot fan ...

Both can work together quite well actually, look at the KOTOR games for reference.

What I've noticed here is the most people who post the "wow clone" type of post, judge the game by only this one video.

Ever heard of a game website?Aricles?Forum?

Well get some info before you start arguing.

[QUOTE="Prexxus"]

I just hope they do like SWG and allow player guilds to create citys on planets. And have our own merchants selling our wares again :P I loved roaming arround on planets on my speeder looking for the best deals arround while being hunted by bounty hunters :D Was one of the first to finish up my holocrons and become a jedi :)

SWG felt huge because everyone in the community played it's part. Smugglers creating spices and slicing/hacking weapons to make them more powerful. Merchants, architects... I hope they bring in some stuff like this. It made the game for me. Not to mention the fun guild vs guild city invasions >:D

Swiftstrike5

Nothing will ever come close to touching what Galaxies once had in terms of a player community, the player cities, the crafting, the whole economy and social experience, not instances (then) everything was in real time and the whole game was engaging whether you just PvP'ed or PvE'ed it didn't matter because you apart of something as a whole.

Even though the NGE ruined the experience that most enjoyed it is still a heavy community driven game with things to do, crafting is still there, community is still there and the social experience is still there. You are right saying it was the best and to me it still is and nothing will ever come close to the experience that Galaxies gave us. This game isn't going to be close at all and I'm with some others here saying this does like just like all the others only in Star Wars form.

The UI looked like WoW and even the character classes have been done at least with NGE Galaxies you still give more choices and customization options outside of armor color and guns. I have a feeling this game is riding the hype train and when people actually get their hands on it I'm afraid a lot of people are going to be disappointed and let down.

I'll probably pick the game up and ride the 30 days free and maybe an extra month but I don't think it is going to be as engaging as Pre-NGE Galaxies which I guess spoiled us who played it during the glory days.

I predict Guild Wars 2 and Final Fantasy XIV will be overall better MMOs, im willing to be quoted on that for ownage aswell. I'm just that confident that yet again a casual obsessed game is being hyped over 2 real gems.

Birdy09

Seeing your hours of WoW do you raid?

Let's be honest with ourselves for a second here. The only thing wow'ing (no pun intended) about this MMO is the voice acting, that's all. It does nothing interesting aside from being Star Wars.

I'm soooooo pre-ordering this...

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FelipeInside

Ok WUT it looks like any other MMORPG boring and Generic. Not good but no doubt will sell by the Billion due to the licence.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"] I think it looks great because its Star Wars and its developed by Bioware. I'm not going to try and find faults or try and argue with you. Your opinion seems pretty set.Roland123_basic

Thats fair enough, but I just cant be that brand loyal when it comes to this genre, seeing how many failures with decent settings and backings there has been, this doesnt seem to be an exception so far. Its a year off, but theyre already marketing and hyping like crazy... within nothing really that interesting... just a WoW Clone with heavy story focus. Star Wars Galaxies direction was much more interesting and ambitious than this.

I predict Guild Wars 2 and Final Fantasy XIV will be overall better MMOs, im willing to be quoted on that for ownage aswell. I'm just that confident that yet again a casual obsessed game is being hyped over 2 real gems.

you are hyping FF14 over SWTOR??? are you being **** serious? FF11 was less than spectacular considering the mind numbing grind and absolute reliance on party play. after about lvl 30 or so you could not do anything..... at all.... without a party. add the fact that every party needed a white mage and they were almost none existant and the game becomes futile.

FF14 looks to repeat the same mistakes FF11 had. and im basing my opinion on the few videos i have seen of the game.... AND my experience with FF11, which goes a hell of a lot further than you just **** about a 5min video that barely shows anything....

Bolded for pure lack of any kind of knowledge of another game, very hypocritical, nice job. The very fact that you are complaining about a multiplayer game having heavy heavy enphasis on party play just shows that this genre isnt for you beyond world of warcraft and this equally as single player orientated experiance.

But to the point, you've just done what you claimed I'm doing. Ofcourse TOR will have different mechanics to a certain degree, different numbers, different abilities.... but my god man LOOK AT IT, its incredible unfluenced nearly to the defree games like allods are, its not even trying to set itself apart, its falling back on Bioware's story telling niche and the star wars brand.

I am honestly not seeing what everyone is so excited about. It looks very "bleh".

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

I don't think you get Star Wars. If you want more variety of weapons then go play a different MMO. People wanting to play Sith or jedi want to fight with LIGHTSABERS. Of course I'm sure the lightsaber you have can be customized to your liking to give your own personality....

Roland

or you have no idea what you are talking about and he is absolutely right... star wars fans dont want UBER LEET EPIC LIGHTSABER +12 OF DARK SITHNESS weapons in their game.... they want lightsabers and laser pistols and epic adventures.....

star wars is about story and adventure, not EPIC LEWTZ.... get it through your **** brain. all you are doing is hating on a game you know almost nothing about.

I'm laughing so hard because this gets better and better, so now its about the adventure? I thought it was about the story... or is that the adventure? it has to be. because everything else is scripted and instanced to the point where there is no adventure, just like most theme park MMO's ... and WoW clones that have small landscapes where every little inch has a guidelined quest to go there. Sorry, your just making it seem more and more likely that this MMO will have no staying power. and are just hiding behind the Star Wars label to justify it. Good luck with that :S

@ Lion, 900 hours isnt accurate, my xfire wasnt used alot til 2008, in which it was coming towards the end of my interest in WoW, played since release, so yes I have raided constantly.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="F1_2004"]Dear sweet Jesus, watching that gameplay makes me weep for what could have been an amazing Star Wars KOTOR RPG that instead turned into WoW-combat-in-space. I can't believe people would play this crap, let alone get excited about it. KOTOR 1 and 2 gameplay looked more interesting than this...StopThePresses

I wonder at what exact moment in time people started deciding those are the only things that matter in a RPG...especially a massively multiplayer one...