Half-Life 2 awesome?

Yah so my friend on steam bought the orange box after saving up a few week's and since he already had a copy of Half-Life 2 he gave me the copy he got from the orange box and I mean wow it's one hell of a game, The gameplay is awesome the graphic's make me want to just die, and wow I wanted this game to since I saw the first ever preview on G4TV and I mean wow the game is just to damn amazion to belive, and I also had the multiplayer edition of Half-Life 2 from when I first got steam back in October 8th 2007 but I mean just like wow it's a good game!

Anyone else like it as much as I do?

Oh and also I like Half-Life 2: Deathmatch a hell of a lot to.

You'll find no shortage of people who love Half Life 2 - it's sold about four million copies and it's widely regarded as one of the best games ever made.

It is awesome, but there's better out there.

Buy the Orange box, so you dont have to buy them seperatly. You also get an extra HL2, incase a friend of yours likes HL2 too, but doesnt own it.

You'll find no shortage of people who love Half Life 2 - it's sold about four million copies and it's widely regarded as one of the best games ever made.

It is awesome, but there's better out there.

fatshodan

Please explain...

[QUOTE="fatshodan"]

You'll find no shortage of people who love Half Life 2 - it's sold about four million copies and it's widely regarded as one of the best games ever made.

It is awesome, but there's better out there.

error11

Please explain...

System Shock 2, Doom, Doom 2, Half Life, Crysis, F.E.A.R... all better games.

[QUOTE="error11"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

You'll find no shortage of people who love Half Life 2 - it's sold about four million copies and it's widely regarded as one of the best games ever made.

It is awesome, but there's better out there.

fatshodan

Please explain...

System Shock 2, Doom, Doom 2, Half Life, Crysis, F.E.A.R... all better games.

Along with NOLF2, Deus Ex and STALKER.

[QUOTE="error11"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

You'll find no shortage of people who love Half Life 2 - it's sold about four million copies and it's widely regarded as one of the best games ever made.

It is awesome, but there's better out there.

fatshodan

Please explain...

System Shock 2, Doom, Doom 2, Half Life, Crysis, F.E.A.R... all better games.

I'm sorry but F.E.A.R? That game was all gray and red...

[QUOTE="fatshodan"][QUOTE="error11"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

You'll find no shortage of people who love Half Life 2 - it's sold about four million copies and it's widely regarded as one of the best games ever made.

It is awesome, but there's better out there.

error11

Please explain...

System Shock 2, Doom, Doom 2, Half Life, Crysis, F.E.A.R... all better games.

I'm sorry but F.E.A.R? That game was all gray and red...

Sure, the colours may not have been as palatable, and the level design was poor to say the least, but the story is excellent and it has absolutely the best gunplay (weapons/AI/sound effects/slowmo/enemy design/misc effects etc) in the history of the genre.

Half Life 2 is an amazing game, but I rate it toward the bottom of the list of the best FPS games.

[QUOTE="error11"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

You'll find no shortage of people who love Half Life 2 - it's sold about four million copies and it's widely regarded as one of the best games ever made.

It is awesome, but there's better out there.

fatshodan

Please explain...

System Shock 2, Doom, Doom 2, Half Life, Crysis, F.E.A.R... all better games.

I would have to agree with Crysis, that was a great game

Yeah, it's very good. Excellent level design. The graphics don't exactly make me die, though...

You'll find no shortage of people who love Half Life 2 - it's sold about four million copies and it's widely regarded as one of the best games ever made.

It is awesome, but there's better out there.

fatshodan

Pretty much. Though Half-Life 2 was also much cooler when it was released because at that point games start taking their turn towards the "next-gen" and completely surpassed available consoles.

Yah so my friend on steam bought the orange box after saving up a few week's and since he already had a copy of Half-Life 2 he gave me the copy he got from the orange box and I mean wow it's one hell of a game, The gameplay is awesome the graphic's make me want to just die, and wow I wanted this game to since I saw the first ever preview on G4TV and I mean wow the game is just to damn amazion to belive, and I also had the multiplayer edition of Half-Life 2 from when I first got steam back in October 8th 2007 but I mean just like wow it's a good game!

Anyone else like it as much as I do?

Oh and also I like Half-Life 2: Deathmatch a hell of a lot to.

yrh2009

[QUOTE="error11"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

You'll find no shortage of people who love Half Life 2 - it's sold about four million copies and it's widely regarded as one of the best games ever made.

It is awesome, but there's better out there.

fatshodan

Please explain...

System Shock 2, Doom, Doom 2, Half Life, Crysis, F.E.A.R... all better games.

Damn shodan, I really thought highly of you until you put Crysis infront of HL2. Well thats that I guess.

[QUOTE="error11"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

You'll find no shortage of people who love Half Life 2 - it's sold about four million copies and it's widely regarded as one of the best games ever made.

It is awesome, but there's better out there.

fatshodan

Please explain...

System Shock 2, Doom, Doom 2, Half Life, Crysis, F.E.A.R... all better games.

Half-Life 2 is a definition of a good game, but not a great one. In fact, I wouldn't even consider it to be one of my top 15 or top 20 games of all time. It's good, but it's certainly overrated.

Gunplay is weak, the plot is not that terribly engaging (having experienced so many films and books about alien invasions, this premise does get rather stale), and the game lacks a degree of replayability. The much hyped physics did little to enhance the gameplay other than providing some awfully trivial puzzles for the player to solve.

I believe that it's the pathos that the Half-Life name evokes in people that give it the illusion that it's the best game of all time, when it really isn't. But that doesn't mean that it's an awful game. Not at all, not at all.

Just substitute the word "game" for "pit" and you get the idea. ;)

Hahaha, but seriously, Half-Life 2 is a great game. Just finished it for the first time a couple of months ago.

Just substitute the word "game" for "pit" and you get the idea. ;)

Hahaha, but seriously, Half-Life 2 is a great game. Just finished it for the first time a couple of months ago.

Forerunner-117

I loved that part, it was so funny, and it made no sence at al. sorry, the picture was messing up the post for me.

[QUOTE="fatshodan"][QUOTE="error11"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

You'll find no shortage of people who love Half Life 2 - it's sold about four million copies and it's widely regarded as one of the best games ever made.

It is awesome, but there's better out there.

ReddestSkies

Please explain...

System Shock 2, Doom, Doom 2, Half Life, Crysis, F.E.A.R... all better games.

Along with NOLF2, Deus Ex and STALKER.

There is no way that F.E.A.R., Crysis, or Stalker are better than Half Life 2.

[QUOTE="ReddestSkies"][QUOTE="fatshodan"][QUOTE="error11"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

You'll find no shortage of people who love Half Life 2 - it's sold about four million copies and it's widely regarded as one of the best games ever made.

It is awesome, but there's better out there.

artiedeadat40

Please explain...

System Shock 2, Doom, Doom 2, Half Life, Crysis, F.E.A.R... all better games.

Along with NOLF2, Deus Ex and STALKER.

There is no way that F.E.A.R., Crysis, or Stalker are better than Half Life 2.

They all have insanely superior AI and core FPS gameplay. Crysis and STALKER have way better level design and semi open-endedness going for them, while FEAR has a much better story. HL2 isn't close to those games tbh.

[QUOTE="fatshodan"][QUOTE="error11"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

You'll find no shortage of people who love Half Life 2 - it's sold about four million copies and it's widely regarded as one of the best games ever made.

It is awesome, but there's better out there.

ReddestSkies

Please explain...

System Shock 2, Doom, Doom 2, Half Life, Crysis, F.E.A.R... all better games.

Along with NOLF2, Deus Ex and STALKER.

Don't forget NOLF 1 either.

[QUOTE="fatshodan"][QUOTE="error11"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

You'll find no shortage of people who love Half Life 2 - it's sold about four million copies and it's widely regarded as one of the best games ever made.

It is awesome, but there's better out there.

Digital_DJ_00

Please explain...

System Shock 2, Doom, Doom 2, Half Life, Crysis, F.E.A.R... all better games.

Firstly, the visuals are extremely well optimised - not only is it the single greatest looking game ever released, it has by far the longest draw distance. And yet the game runs extremely well on hardware that's years older than it. My GPU is a year older than Crysis while my CPU is three years older and I run the game on all high.

As for the gameplay aspects, you're joking, right? How many games can I adopt either a combat or stealth styIe and have the AI fluidly facilitate it? How many other games can I come at my enemies from any direction, using a wide variety of tools? How many other games can I create a chain of decoys and the AI's short term memory (a first for Crysis) will check them all out? How many other games can I choose to not kill my enemies?

Crysis had admittedly done nothing that hasn't been done before (besides the AI memory), but Crysis also takes a large number of unique aspects of gameplay and combines them in a way that no game has done, or no game has done as well as Crysis.

Yea bud I played tons of fps and Half Life 2 clenched very well. Considerably by far a fps that's really unique and unparallel upon PC platform and even still today. OoSuperMarioO

Besides the storytelling, what else makes it "uniques and unparallel"

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Yea bud I played tons of fps and Half Life 2 clenched very well. Considerably by far a fps that's really unique and unparallel upon PC platform and even still today. Lonelynight

Besides the storytelling, what else makes it "uniques and unparallel"

The game's transitional nature - one moment you'reunarmed and fleeing out of a 1984-styIe dystopia, the next you're creeping through a zombie town straight out of a horror movie, the next you're in your own version of the film Tremors, the next you're storming a prison with a team of giant insectoid monsters.

Most FPS games - even the very best - are built around one core gameplay concept, and only the locations change and things invariably become stagnant in the final third. With Half Life 2, the entire game changes so absolutely from one area to the next there's no chance tobecome accustomed to the setting and the styIe because one monent you're driving around in a sand buggy and the next you're crushing enemies with a giant industrial crane.

Half Life 2 is a game constantly in flux, and in that respect, only Escape from Butcher Bay is better than it.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Yea bud I played tons of fps and Half Life 2 clenched very well. Considerably by far a fps that's really unique and unparallel upon PC platform and even still today. fatshodan

Besides the storytelling, what else makes it "uniques and unparallel"

The game's transitional nature - one moment you'reunarmed and fleeing out of a 1984-styIe dystopia, the next you're creeping through a zombie town straight out of a horror movie, the next you're in your own version of the film Tremors, the next you're storming a prison with a team of giant insectoid monsters.

Most FPS games - even the very best - are built around one core gameplay concept, and only the locations change and things invariably become stagnant in the final third. With Half Life 2, the entire game changes so absolutely from one area to the next there's no chance tobecome accustomed to the setting and the styIe because one monent you're driving around in a sand buggy and the next you're crushing enemies with a giant industrial crane.

Half Life 2 is a game constantly in flux, and in that respect, only Escape from Butcher Bay is better than it.

Good point, unfortunately, that doesn't do much for me though :(

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Yea bud I played tons of fps and Half Life 2 clenched very well. Considerably by far a fps that's really unique and unparallel upon PC platform and even still today. Lonelynight

Besides the storytelling, what else makes it "uniques and unparallel"

Environments in Half Life 2 are very varied with significant memorable levels like the entry into City 17 or zombie battling in Ravenholm or even on the coast battling with overgrown bugs. The setting was marvelous and all were very interesting.

The attention to weaponry unlike alot of others shooters with the same standard weapons reference from the next Half life 2 weapons had quite a spin with unique responsiveness. I yet seen a gun like the Gravity gun have such a impact on gameplay and really changed the way how fps are played. The gravity gun was miraculous from a technical perspective as well creative process.

Still today there are fps lacking with these elements that makes Half Life 2 so unique and yet unparallel on our Platform.

They all have insanely superior AI and core FPS gameplay. Crysis and STALKER have way better level design and semi open-endedness going for them, while FEAR has a much better story. HL2 isn't close to those games tbh.

ReddestSkies

Core FPS gameplay? Please. What does that even mean? If you are saying that the gunplay in STALKER is better than HL2 then you are wrong: the hit detection in STALKER is highly poor and the AI is extremely mixed. Sometimes tactical but at others diabolical, highly unaware and unintelligent.

HL2 has much more personality and more likeable characters in its storyline.

[QUOTE="ReddestSkies"]

They all have insanely superior AI and core FPS gameplay. Crysis and STALKER have way better level design and semi open-endedness going for them, while FEAR has a much better story. HL2 isn't close to those games tbh.

biggest_loser

Core FPS gameplay? Please. What does that even mean? If you are saying that the gunplay in STALKER is better than HL2 then you are wrong: the hit detection in STALKER is highly poor and the AI is extremely mixed. Sometimes tactical but at others diabolical, highly unaware and unintelligent.

HL2 has much more personality and more likeable characters in its storyline.

And personally I don't care much about storylines and characters much in a game(but thats just me)

And FPS stands for First Person Shooter, and STALKER(didn't have a problem with the hit detection, in fact I like it), FEAR and Crysis all have better gunplay than HL2.

And FPS stands for First Person Shooter, and STALKER(didn't have a problem with the hit detection, in fact I like it), FEAR and Crysis all have better gunplay than HL2.Lonelynight

But is Half Life 2 really a first person shooter? People automatically assume it is because, well, it's first person and you have a gun... but I don't consider HL2 a FPS.

I view the gunplay as being incidental - a necessary byproduct of the storyline. I think HL2 is more like a first person adventure game, that just happens to contain gunplay. In terms of broad genre cIassification, it arguably has to be defined as a FPS, but Dark Corners of the Earth, System Shock 2 and Escape from Butcher Bay are all defined as being FPS games, too. The mere label is too broad to do many specific games justice.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending HL2 - its gunplay is ass, and its AI is a joke, but that's exactly why I don't think of HL2 as a FPS. Its gunplay elements are underdeveloped compared with other aspects of the game that are, while less noticable at a glance, more prominent as overall gameplay elements.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]And FPS stands for First Person Shooter, and STALKER(didn't have a problem with the hit detection, in fact I like it), FEAR and Crysis all have better gunplay than HL2.fatshodan

But is Half Life 2 really a first person shooter? People automatically assume it is because, well, it's first person and you have a gun... but I don't consider HL2 a FPS.

I view the gunplay as being incidental - a necessary byproduct of the storyline. I think HL2 is more like a first person adventure game, that just happens to contain gunplay. In terms of broad genre cIassification, it arguably has to be defined as a FPS, but Dark Corners of the Earth, System Shock 2 and Escape from Butcher Bay are all defined as being FPS games, too. The mere label is too broad to do many specific games justice.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending HL2 - its gunplay is ass, and its AI is a joke, but that's exactly why I don't think of HL2 as a FPS. Its gunplay elements are underdeveloped compared with other aspects of the game that are, while less noticable at a glance, more prominent as overall gameplay elements.

I think the gunplay is great. There's a good feel to the weapons. The AI isn't as good as the original. But it is still competent, particularly Alyx's NPC AI.

Its certainly is a FPS to me. Lets not split hairs. I could say that the gunplay in FEAR is a result of the storyline. I could say that about a lot of games!

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]And FPS stands for First Person Shooter, and STALKER(didn't have a problem with the hit detection, in fact I like it), FEAR and Crysis all have better gunplay than HL2.fatshodan

But is Half Life 2 really a first person shooter? People automatically assume it is because, well, it's first person and you have a gun... but I don't consider HL2 a FPS.

I view the gunplay as being incidental - a necessary byproduct of the storyline. I think HL2 is more like a first person adventure game, that just happens to contain gunplay. In terms of broad genre cIassification, it arguably has to be defined as a FPS, but Dark Corners of the Earth, System Shock 2 and Escape from Butcher Bay are all defined as being FPS games, too. The mere label is too broad to do many specific games justice.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending HL2 - its gunplay is ass, and its AI is a joke, but that's exactly why I don't think of HL2 as a FPS. Its gunplay elements are underdeveloped compared with other aspects of the game that are, while less noticable at a glance, more prominent as overall gameplay elements.

I think its a great game as well(just don't like it) if not judge by its shooter elements.

I think the gunplay is great. There's a good feel to the weapons. The AI isn't as good as the original. But it is still competent, particularly Alyx's NPC AI.biggest_loser

You are one of the very few people who praises Half Life 2's gunplay - and besides, in arguments, you usually argue the storytelling and "cinematic feel" and rarely mention the gunplay.

Saying that Half Life 2's AI isn't as good as the original is not a comment to be made lightly. HL1 predates HL2 by six years, and for the game to be a step backwards for AI is a clear shift away from gunplay. And calling it competent is... what is that? Is it a compliment? Is saying something functions at a moderate level of adequacy something to praise? F.E.A.R, released only a year later, has AI so far beyond HL2 that you just cannot compare them side by side.

Out of all the top tier FPS games, HL2 has easily the worst AI, and without AI, without open level design and without other cool tricks (slow motion, nanosuit, etc), all you have is the act of pointing and shooting - and that's all HL2 has. Half Life 2's best gunplay - its only good gunplay - is based around set pieces, and it's really only the setup that's impressive, not the actual act of fighting the enemies. It's more a game of why than how.

Its certainly is a FPS to me. Lets not split hairs. I could say that the gunplay in FEAR is a result of the storyline. I could say that about a lot of games!biggest_loser

Yes, but I'm not just saying it, I'm coming to that conclusion based on the notion that the gunplay in HL2 is very underdeveloped compared with the storytelling and transitional nature of the game. F.E.A.R on the other hand has some of the best developed gunplay in the genre, so there's no rational basis to say it about a game like F.E.A.R.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]And FPS stands for First Person Shooter, and STALKER(didn't have a problem with the hit detection, in fact I like it), FEAR and Crysis all have better gunplay than HL2.fatshodan

But is Half Life 2 really a first person shooter? People automatically assume it is because, well, it's first person and you have a gun... but I don't consider HL2 a FPS.

I view the gunplay as being incidental - a necessary byproduct of the storyline. I think HL2 is more like a first person adventure game, that just happens to contain gunplay. In terms of broad genre cIassification, it arguably has to be defined as a FPS, but Dark Corners of the Earth, System Shock 2 and Escape from Butcher Bay are all defined as being FPS games, too. The mere label is too broad to do many specific games justice.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending HL2 - its gunplay is ass, and its AI is a joke, but that's exactly why I don't think of HL2 as a FPS. Its gunplay elements are underdeveloped compared with other aspects of the game that are, while less noticable at a glance, more prominent as overall gameplay elements.

HL2 certainly has nothing in common with the adventure genre. In has little dialogue, no exploration whatsoever, the puzzles are laughable and its story is only decent when you consider it as part of a much bigger thing (as a stand-alone, HL2's story is pretty uninteresting and undeveloped). It has an amazing atmosphere however, which makes the player believe that there is more to the game (when there really isn't).

It is a FPS with semi-wasted storytelling potential, nothing more.

[QUOTE="ReddestSkies"]

They all have insanely superior AI and core FPS gameplay. Crysis and STALKER have way better level design and semi open-endedness going for them, while FEAR has a much better story. HL2 isn't close to those games tbh.

biggest_loser

Core FPS gameplay? Please. What does that even mean? If you are saying that the gunplay in STALKER is better than HL2 then you are wrong: the hit detection in STALKER is highly poor and the AI is extremely mixed. Sometimes tactical but at others diabolical, highly unaware and unintelligent.

HL2 has much more personality and more likeable characters in its storyline.

The hit detectionis highly poor? As in, "oh noes, I can't snipe with a pistol as in Half-Life 2!"? This is a design decision to make the game feel a bit more realistic, as opposed to standard "perfect aim" FPS gameplay. If you stand really close to the enemy, you will notice that its hitbox does register hits perfectly.

Every HL2 character has obvious motivations and an obvious personality to match them (except for the G-Man and his three appearances. They are given little focus in the game, and do not evolve in any way (within the game itself). Also, Alyx is an invincible tank-woman, which made me hate her.

I think its a great game as well(just don't like it) if not judge by its shooter elements.Lonelynight

Honestly I find this kind of surgical discussion of game by genre meaningless and borderline pretentious. So is Half-Life 2 a good game, regardless if you call it a FPS or whatever? If, with poor shooter elements, the game is still fun and engaging, the poorness felt by certain gamers is inconsequential to say the least.

Genre of all things is imposed and invented by humans. Surgical discussions may lead to pointless conclusions such as "yeah, Half-life 2 is a worse FPS than Crysis, but a better game overall" or "Oblivion is a worse RPG than Fallout but a better game overall." I like to talk about tooth ache, taking into consideration the person who feels the pain, not the tooth ache alone.

btw, to OP, a fun game though not really bringing anything earthquakingly new since the original Half-life. Good upgrading of graphics, especially the human model (no such luck for headcrabs~~)