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#1 ImperialDane
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Yes everybody, it would seem another expansion is coming out for Dawn of War, this one is called Soulstorm. The info was leaked by 1up when showing off some pages from the latest Games for Windows.

The Expansion will show off the Dark Eldar it would seem, and that is what is known at the moment.

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#2 jcwordlife
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If this is true, I want some Tyranids in action!
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#3 ImperialDane
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Well regarding Tyranids, it has been said by Relic that they wouldn't be able to do it satisfactorily with the current engine. Besides they would be hell to balance along with 8 other races.
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#4 Jinroh_basic
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From what i know of the lore ( which isn't much so i could be wrong ), Dark Eldarresembles its untainted counterpart in alot of ways.....i don't think it's gonna add alot into the game as a new race....

but what the heck. i like DoW, i like Relic, and if these 2 stick together, i'm A-ok with anything. :D

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#5 ImperialDane
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As far as i understand the Dark Eldar are more about speedy attacks, while the Eldar are more about specialists for certain situations.. that and the Dark Eldar are a bunch of sadistic insane psychopaths who hunt for slaves so they can live a little longer.. oh and for fun.
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#6 Jinroh_basic
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true true...to that end, they wear little armor and rarely make use of armored support units.....i wonder how Relic's gonna pull this off.

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#7 ImperialDane
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Well i would assume it would involve some firepower.. but otherwies highly mobile vehicles that can "jump" i would assume.
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#8 Jinroh_basic
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i think DE is gonna feature expensive elite troops, depending on quality over quantity. there're probably less unit types, but more Warp capabilities. maybe they can ( should ) incorporate their scavenging nature as well, such as fantastic bonuses that are available only through capturing units and buildings, etc....just my 2 cents :)

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#9 ImperialDane
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I think you have some valid point, but regarding capture ?Hmm that could be interesting, probably be a way to gain requisition.. but i think that might be more for the campaigns, imagine missions where you have to go raiding and enslaving civilians and defenders alike, that could be a little fun don't you think ?

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#10 lycrof
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WEll i guess i should beat winter assault and dark crusade.
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#11 commander1122
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another expansion????why dun just DoW 2..............zzzz hope did`t like the second expansion ..it suck!!without story single player....
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#12 ImperialDane
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Eh ? What are you saying ?

Something with you didn't like the campaign of dark crusade because it didn't have a story ? But it did, it just wasn't presented in the way that most campaigns do it, and yes there probably was too much skirmish in it, but who knows ? Perhaps relic learned a few lessons and if they decide to make another meta map campaign, it might reflect that.

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#13 gogators4life
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I can't wait for this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Space marines >>>>>>>>> all.

Will the old factions get new units? Hopefully.

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#14 Zulgaines
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The meta map needs a lot of work if they do it again.
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#15 Valramil
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I really wanted Tyranids but sadly I heard that they were a hoax. Im still hoping :D Dark Eldar are pretty cool though.
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#16 ImperialDane
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@zulgarim: Well it could indeed use some work, but again if they would make another, i think they are aware of that.

I really wanted Tyranids but sadly I heard that they were a hoax.

Well Relic has stated that the engine wouldn't be able to do it in a satisfactory way.

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#17 lucky326
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Iv been digging a bit but iv not found anything new, this doesnt seem like some sort of Hoax either this is being taken seriously by everything iv seen Also it looks like the developer for this wont be Relic either based on what iv been reading but thats speculation.
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#18 Zulgaines
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@zulgarim: Well it could indeed use some work, but again if they would make another, i think they are aware of that.ImperialDane

I guess I should of said more, by "A lot of work" I mean the AI more than anything. The meta map is risk style- awesome. But since the AI is so poor that it needs to gang up on you and has tactics that fall short after constant rushing it ruined what could of been an excellent meta map game. The AI should of played "fair" in other words and not been so tactically weak that it needed to cheat.


An example of good AI would be the AI Skirmish Mod, which turns the boring offline skirmish mode into challenging, but also varied and enjoyable battles having the AI use different strategies and more advanced trains of thought.

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#19 ImperialDane
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@lucky326 : Well so far all this with someone else than relic devloping seems like rumours started by someone without any evidence at all. If you look at 1up.com now it mentions that relic has something to do with it, which seems a little odd if it was somebody else, wouldn't you say ? And well why should it change after 2 expansions and a game ?

@ Zulgaines: yes the Ai could use some work, but as mentioned, it might be one of the things Relic have learned, CoH might have given some thoughts there as well.

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#20 lucky326
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Right Relic community manager said something along the lines of more info on the way im in the middle of crawling through the mega-thread in Relics forums so this could take a while.
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#21 ImperialDane
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Well yes there will be more info.. but when ? Probably near the 30th.. just about when the magazine would be released i would think.
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#22 stefip
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Or maybe Relic will give some hard evidence about it before 30th, I hope so. I also hope there will be more then just one race added.Not necessarily another race,althoughtitwouldbecool, maybe improved Army Painter or some form of factions withon existing races, like worshipping different chaos gods for Chaos, or different traits for different SM chapters.

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#23 ferret837
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Yes everybody, it would seem another expansion is coming out for Dawn of War, this one is called Soulstorm. The info was leaked by 1up when showing off some pages from the latest Games for Windows.

The Expansion will show off the Dark Eldar it would seem, and that is what is known at the moment.

ImperialDane

awww dark eldar are my least favortie.....

http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/darkeldar/catalog/default.htm

I want tyranids, instead of a expansion they should just make a new game.... Dawn of war is too old to make new expansion for.... probably be worth buying

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#24 ImperialDane
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Well it is better than nothing, but i was surprised by this as i had expected Dawn of War 2.. mostly because relic said that Dark Crusade was the last expansion.
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#25 lucky326
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Yes but relic also said that WA was going to be the last expansion. As far as im concerned as long as somehow Gamespy is no longer involved in the Online and the Meta-Map idea is refined I will probably buy it. As for looking for more info Iv found non so Im taking a guess the Magazine has an exclusive deal where Relic/THQ cant speak about it until the Magazine is released.
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#26 Jinroh_basic
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Or maybe Relic will give some hard evidence about it before 30th, I hope so. I also hope there will be more then just one race added.Not necessarily another race,althoughtitwouldbecool, maybe improved Army Painter or some form of factions withon existing races, like worshipping different chaos gods for Chaos, or different traits for different SM chapters.

stefip

great idea. i would like to see those in an expansion.

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#27 ferret837
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Well it is better than nothing, but i was surprised by this as i had expected Dawn of War 2.. mostly because relic said that Dark Crusade was the last expansion.ImperialDane

i guess.... but i would of loved to see a DoW 2 (with tyranids :D)

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#28 ImperialDane
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Well perhaps in DoW 2 we might see some tyranids, though my first wish would be the imperial guard.

@Stefip: Those are some good ideas, that might create a little extra difference.. though it might be a little hard to balance i think.

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#29 gogators4life
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Dark Eldar, now I wonder whatkind of units would they have? :)
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#30 thusaha
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Cool!
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#31 ImperialDane
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@gogators4life . Probably most of these : http://uk.games-workshop.com/darkeldar/miniature-gallery/
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#32 thesuckerkiller
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Relic is soon gonna run out of races to choose from... the only ones beside Dark Eldar is Tyranids..

anything else is those other human armies such as the Ordo Hereticus and Ordo Malleus.

and of course the lesser chaos armies as the Lost and the Damned.

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#33 inoperativeRS
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YES!

I don't care that much about the Dark Eldars, but anything that gives me an excuse to play more Dawn of War is by default a must buy for me.

I do wonder if this means we won't see a DoW2 anytime soon, though.

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#34 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I really would rather see a second one on the CoH engine, then them adding another race when they can't even perfectly balance the races they have now..
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#35 ImperialDane
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It would have been nice, but i am not complaining, nor sir, not at all.
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#36 lucky326
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Well im not complaining either I dont care what the new race(s) is/are as long are they introduce things unique that fit into the gameplay and more importantly an excellent Storyline like the previous games.
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#37 Zulgaines
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I'm just glad I can finally have my 8-way free for all with diffrent races.
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#38 Azeryk-
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Sweet, maybe a DOW2 would be better, but I'll happy look forward to a new expansion :)
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[QUOTE="ImperialDane"]

@zulgarim: Well it could indeed use some work, but again if they would make another, i think they are aware of that.Zulgaines

I guess I should of said more, by "A lot of work" I mean the AI more than anything. The meta map is risk style- awesome. But since the AI is so poor that it needs to gang up on you and has tactics that fall short after constant rushing it ruined what could of been an excellent meta map game. The AI should of played "fair" in other words and not been so tactically weak that it needed to cheat.

Completely agree, the AI was weak and the difficulty was cheap , the AI starting on alot of maps with two bases and constant rushing got old fast.

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#40 packers219
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ive been a big DoW fan but this is just unacceptable. the DoW engine is WAY outdated, the graphics are mediocre, and the AI just sucks. i am NOT buying soulstorm just look at the race they are adding i mean come on u can do better than dark eldar. oh yea to all of u ppl who say DoW engine cant handle tyranids ur wrong. 1) theres a tyranid mod and 2) the DoW developers even said the engine can handle tyranids, just not the way relic wants it. so until THQ and relic get their act together, im just gonna play WiC :)

WiC > DoW

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#41 deactivated-59d151f079814
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In the end this game still fails because it is still locked using the accursed Gamespy multiplayer service.
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#42 ImperialDane
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ive been a big DoW fan but this is just unacceptable. the DoW engine is WAY outdated, the graphics are mediocre, and the AI just sucks. i am NOT buying soulstorm just look at the race they are adding i mean come on u can do better than dark eldar. oh yea to all of u ppl who say DoW engine cant handle tyranids ur wrong. 1) theres a tyranid mod and 2) the DoW developers even said the engine can handle tyranids, just not the way relic wants it. so until THQ and relic get their act together, im just gonna play WiC :)

WiC > DoW

packers219

Are relic not the developers ? I mean it is them that have come up with all the other cool stuff, so if they feel they can't do it in a way that satisfies them, perhaps they have a point ? Sure you can do a mod.. but is that the same ? Plus i wouldn't say it is way outdated, a little old yes, but graphics aren't everything, if they are.. well then, why aren't you off playing shooters and stuff ? They usually got lots of shiny graphics. Besides if you think they are just adding a race.. well perhaps it is best you don't buy it, as it would seem you are slightly oblivious to all the things relic have done with the DoW series over time.. and what they have done with CoH.

@sSubZerOo: Eh why is that? Sure it is not the best, but it is functional, and relic can't change it even though they want to do to some contract they made with gamespy.

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#43 chaosklipz
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there is tyranids race that u can download, but it aint gr8,

as a summary, does any1 know all the new races by any chance?

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#44 chaosklipz
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sorry 2 double post

it is true about gamespy, they are absolutely pants, everythign bout the game impresses me except 4 this

nothin bad bout graphics, good gameplay, AI isnt 2 bad, and generally its the way that online play is managed that is dissapointing

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#45 ImperialDane
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I'm afraid we don't know much about any other races about Dark Eldar, as the game hasn't even been officially announced yet, though i'll take a gamble and say that there probably won't be tyranids, because otherwise i think 1up.com would have blabbered that out as well..
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#46 lucky326
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I'm afraid we don't know much about any other races about Dark Eldar, as the game hasn't even been officially announced yet, though i'll take a gamble and say that there probably won't be tyranids, because otherwise i think 1up.com would have blabbered that out as well..ImperialDane
Yes it is possible UP1 would have announced the Nids if they were in the Magazine and thats the thing IF. Theres a chance that the Magazine is dedicated to the Dark Eldar and any possible additions may be announced later.
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#47 sugnaangus
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YYYYYEEESSSSSS. i cant wait for this it looks kickass. hopefully they add terminators or dreadnoughts to chaos and also hreoes from the actual game like abbadon or typhus would be mega kickass
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w00t, but I was hoping for DoW 2 :(
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#49 ImperialDane
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Well first of all Games for windows should be out about now, otherwise info has finally been released by the Relic Community manager and we've gotten a Podcast plus 3 screenshots.

Take a look here :http://www.relicrank.com/bloggo/2007/09/26/a-new-game-announcement-with-podcast-4/

There are some cool details and such.

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#50 johnnypumpkin
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DoW is great, DoW 2 would be good but i dont think its nesscessary, the online is great, the graphics although are not mind blowing, are still very effective, i think they look better than many newer RTS titles.

$10 bucks says that they are doing dark eldar because GW is about to do a new miniture range. The other race i recon willl be a direct counter to the dark gods, there force will either Sisters of battle (Witch hunters) or mabey a Daemon Hunters army.

ANy who i welcome it- DoW is a completly under rated game and as long as it is continued to be supported by the developer i am a very happy man...