Crysis 2 Steam removal 'not EA's decision'

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/307454/news/crysis-2-steam-removal-not-eas-decision/

But this wasn't the case, as EA has explained: "It's unfortunate that Steam has removed Crysis 2 from their service. This was not an EA decision or the result of any action by EA."

The rep added: "Steam has imposed a set of business terms for developers hoping to sell content on that service - many of which are not imposed by other online game services. Unfortunately, Crytek has an agreement with another download service which violates the new rules from Steam and resulted in its expulsion of Crysis 2 from Steam."

"Crysis 2 continues to be available on several other download services including GameStop, Amazon, Origin.com and more."

Thoughts?

My guess was that Steam just gave EA the finger and EA just walked away. Guess I wasn't too far off. gmaster456

[QUOTE="gmaster456"]My guess was that Steam just gave EA the finger and EA just walked away. Guess I wasn't too far off. the_ChEeSe_mAn2

Haters owned? Almost everyone assumed it was some malicious EA activity from the start.

Remember kids, assume first, rage after and never consider the possibilities. DanielDust

or the result of any action by EA."

Spellingiscool

I highly doubt this.

I think Crytek and EA worked together to "violate" the Steam rules and then walked away, blaming Steam.

I think Crytek and EA worked together to "violate" the Steam rules and then walked away, blaming Steam.

axething

Remember kids, assume first, rage after and never consider the possibilities. DanielDust

It was a perfectly reasonable assumption when you consider shortly after Crysis 2 was removed from Steam EA had this on Origins site :-

http://tinyurl.com/5wv6tvo

See where it says "Buy Now ONLY on Origin", that page has since been changed to "Buy Now on Origin" :-

http://tinyurl.com/62tltbs

So something dodgy is going on here and no I am not about to take the word of an EA PR guy. I mean they are hardly likely to go "yeah we did it what you gonna do about it".

It would mean something if Origin really was the "ONLY" place, but it wasn't, only place that had problems with Crysis 2 was Steam.DanielDust

I am not getting into an argument with you DanielDust if you can't see why people came to the conclusion that EA had removed Crysis from Steam after putting up a page on their store saying "Origin Only" and then releasing a statement that says " :-

"EA"Gibeau told GamesIndustry.biz today that "you talk about platform exclusives like Halo or Uncharted… EA's going to have some of our own platform exclusives."

All we have from EA so far is a "oh it wasn't us guv`nor honest, it was those other guys really it was"

Cool where there isn't anything to assume about on a certain subject, we start making assumptions based on a clear statement "EA having platform exclusives". There's nothing new, EA never released all their games on PC, or all the PC games on consoles and Steam also doesn't have all the EA games.

This hardly clarifies anything and is hard to believe anyway. If Steam suddenly implemented some unreasonable "regulations", there'd be more games, developers and publishers affected. It's just ONE game. It's odd.

Given that EA doesn't have the best of reputations right now, they need to be a little more specific if they are expecting people to believe them. That vague language trips my disbelief meter. What sort of terms, relating to what aspect of the service? The only way they can expect me to believe them is if they are contractually bound not to say (and Valve also says they are under NDA) or if Valve confirms their explanation.

So what does this mean to those of us that have the steam version? It will now not get updates or add ons? Thats total BS for those of us that have it.

So what does this mean to those of us that have the steam version? It will now not get updates or add ons? Thats total BS for those of us that have it.

Advid-Gamer

It sounds to me like EA wanted the DLC to be exclusively on Origin. Steam did not like this at all knowing it would directly pull some people away to a competing platform. Is this the first time there is exclusive DLC? I know there have been exclusive preorder bonuses, but those are just small, free things added in not DLC that has a price and money involved. It's possible Steam already had these rules, but there wasn't any exclusive DLC before.

I really hope we don't get to a point where every publisher has their own platform you have to use to buy and play their games. Not only would you need many logins, but you also have to trust all those companies will remove DRM if they go out of business and keep the downloads available years after release. I wish there was some nonprofit industry organization that ran an open platform that all publishers used. That way none of them get an advantage and gamers only have to worry about one platform.

Haters owned? Almost everyone assumed it was some malicious EA activity from the start.

MyopicCanadian

LOL I have to agree, I thought it was an EA move, guess I was wrong.

[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]

Haters owned? Almost everyone assumed it was some malicious EA activity from the start.

Lach0121

LOL I have to agree, I thought it was an EA move, guess I was wrong.

You should be ashamed :evil:. :D

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[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]

Haters owned? Almost everyone assumed it was some malicious EA activity from the start.

gmaster456

LOL I have to agree, I thought it was an EA move, guess I was wrong.

You should be ashamed :evil:. :D

lol Ashamed? No, but I am surprised.

It's not about DLC exclusive to Origin, all EA and GFWL games had exclusive DLC before.

The answer lies in the article if people bothered to read it.

"Steam has imposed a set of business terms for developers hoping to sell content on that service - many of which are not imposed by other online game services. Unfortunately, Crytek has an agreement with another download service which violates the new rules from Steam and resulted in its expulsion of Crysis 2 from Steam."Article

The answer lies in the article if people bothered to read it.

[quote="Article"]"Steam has imposed a set of business terms for developers hoping to sell content on that service - many of which are not imposed by other online game services. Unfortunately, Crytek has an agreement with another download service which violates the new rules from Steam and resulted in its expulsion of Crysis 2 from Steam."MythPro1

[QUOTE="MythPro1"]

The answer lies in the article if people bothered to read it.

[quote="Article"]"Steam has imposed a set of business terms for developers hoping to sell content on that service - many of which are not imposed by other online game services. Unfortunately, Crytek has an agreement with another download service which violates the new rules from Steam and resulted in its expulsion of Crysis 2 from Steam."KHAndAnime

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="MythPro1"]

The answer lies in the article if people bothered to read it.

[quote="Article"]"Steam has imposed a set of business terms for developers hoping to sell content on that service - many of which are not imposed by other online game services. Unfortunately, Crytek has an agreement with another download service which violates the new rules from Steam and resulted in its expulsion of Crysis 2 from Steam."MythPro1

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="MythPro1"] Right, because Steam is incapable of imposing restrictive agreements. Like, totally! It must be EA's doing! They ruined X series due to Y reasoning so they are Satan! It's wrong to blindly believe EA's vague PR response, but it's okay to just assume it wasn't Valve's doing! MythPro1

No. Once again, I'm not assuming anything. Do know what these rules or restrictions are? Considering that EA is the only one violating this restriction, what makes you automatically think that the rule or restriction has to do with greed/corruption on Valve's part? Didn't you see that EA was briefly advertising Crysis 2 to be exclusively on Origin before Crysis 2 was taken down from Steam? It's kind of hard to point fingers based on the information given, don't you think?

I beg to differ. I pointed out the response that shows it was not EA's doing in the article. You mocked and denounced it as a vague PR response. You're assuming it's not true or should not be taken seriously. If you want further truth of the validity of the statement, Crysis 2 can still be purchased on nearly every DD platform including Gamersgate, Direct2Drive, and Impulse. Hardly an exclusivity issue.MythPro1

Who cares? Crysis 2 sucked anyways, was stinking up the steam marketplace.

Who cares? Crysis 2 sucked anyways, was stinking up the steam marketplace.

deathshand707

[QUOTE="deathshand707"]

Who cares? Crysis 2 sucked anyways, was stinking up the steam marketplace.

gameguy6700

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="deathshand707"]

Who cares? Crysis 2 sucked anyways, was stinking up the steam marketplace.

Advid-Gamer

compared to the first game it was "sucky"

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="gameguy6700"] Yeah, this. As the saying goes "And nothing of value was lost".deathshand707

compared to the first game it was "sucky"

[QUOTE="deathshand707"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] It didnt suck actually was a solid game, but after all it is *cool* here to bash crysis 2. What a jokeAAllxxjjnn

compared to the first game it was "sucky"

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="gameguy6700"] Yeah, this. As the saying goes "And nothing of value was lost".deathshand707

compared to the first game it was "sucky"

It wasn't sucky. It was a slight disappointment. It's better than a lot of the crap put out today *cough*Duke Nukem*cough*

So I guess people that used there hard earned dollars and bought it on Steam are screwed. If they ever do release the mythical DX11 patch Steam owners will not receive.
If no future patches I will request a refund from Steam, or resort to other means to acquire EA games. BF3 won't be getting my dollars if EA will force Origin onto me just to buy it.
The game is still on my list, but went to play it and it said Steam Server Unavailable. I assume it is just busy. They are not allowed to stop you from playing a game you paid money for. That is corporate theft.

As someone mentioned in SW last night, I suspect EA wanted some Origin exclusive DLC and ended up breaking their contract with Valve.

Sounds like the most plausible explanation to me, especially considering that any soul EA posses is stored in the form of children who are kept in in dungeons below EA headquarters for the purpose of recreational activities.

[QUOTE="deathshand707"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] It didnt suck actually was a solid game, but after all it is *cool* here to bash crysis 2. What a jokeAAllxxjjnn

compared to the first game it was "sucky"

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="deathshand707"]

compared to the first game it was "sucky"

wigan_gamer

Disagree.. Crysis 2's singleplayer had better pacing, characters and what not.. Granted there were alot to explore in the first game.. The problem was the best parts of the game you really didn't have time to explore.. The pacing for Crysis 1 was absolutely awful for the first few levels until the American military invaded.. Than it began picking up.. Furthermore Crysis 2's multiplayer is at least decent, compared to the crap that was Crysis 1's.. Both Crysis 1 and 2's singleplayer have their pluses and minuses.. And for me I really couldn't decide which one is better.

I think your pacing is the problem in such an open game. Better characters? Come on! Where's Jason Statham?!