Windows 8.1 Might have Boot to desktop with Start menu

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#1 Posted by Cyberdot (3539 posts) -

As long as they keep it easy to use, I would be happy to buy it. Start menu and traditional UI are a must.

But no, I'm not moving from Windows 7. There's no reason to do so.

#2 Posted by Klunt_Bumskrint (4240 posts) -

Looky Here

 

If they do this I might try it again.;)

#3 Posted by --Anna-- (4495 posts) -

Idiots don't see obvious problems with their thinking...idiots can't change.. it"s   beyond them. I know hard to believe but you'll see....but they won't!

#4 Posted by AlexKidd5000 (1817 posts) -
Hopfully Linux will get more popular, because Linux offers actual CHOICE.
#5 Posted by Cyberdot (3539 posts) -

Hopfully Linux will get more popular, because Linux offers actual CHOICE.AlexKidd5000

That would be nice.

I've tried to get invested in Linux, but I couldn't because 70% of programs and games aren't compatible, so I thought screw this and went back to Windows. I do wish all developers would spend an extra time adding Linux support.

#6 Posted by AlexKidd5000 (1817 posts) -

[QUOTE="AlexKidd5000"]Hopfully Linux will get more popular, because Linux offers actual CHOICE.Cyberdot

That would be nice.

I've tried to get invested in Linux, but I couldn't because 70% of programs and games aren't compatible, so I thought screw this and went back to Windows. I do wish all developers would spend an extra time adding Linux support.

Agreed. I started using Linux just a couple weeks ago, and finding it hard to go back. Only the lack of games, and display-driver support keep me from leaving Windows altogether.
#7 Posted by General_X (9050 posts) -
Once again Microsoft shows that every other release is basically a beta test for the real deal to come afterwords lol. Never understood why they couldn't just have something like: If: desktop then: Boot into desktop view If: tablet then: Boot into Modern UI For reals.
#8 Posted by Mozuckint (802 posts) -

Reminds me of the whole UAC dilemna change between Vista and 7

#9 Posted by JigglyWiggly_ (23715 posts) -

[QUOTE="AlexKidd5000"]Hopfully Linux will get more popular, because Linux offers actual CHOICE.FelipeInside
What CHOICE do you speak of that Windows doesn't have? I can do anything I want with Windows.

 

He might mean like different desktop environments. One thing that's nice is even if your desktop environment crashes in Linux, you can still go to the termianl with ctrl + alt + f1-f7 and restart it that way. Windows you have to hard reset. You can also use no desktop environment if you don't want to.

ofc with choice, there are a lot more bugs, tldr gnome, kde, xfce all are bad


Also the source is open so you can go make your own edits to your kernel and compile it. 

#11 Posted by AlexKidd5000 (1817 posts) -
[QUOTE="AlexKidd5000"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] 

He might mean like different desktop environments. One thing that's nice is even if your desktop environment crashes in Linux, you can still go to the termianl with ctrl + alt + f1-f7 and restart it that way. Windows you have to hard reset. You can also use no desktop environment if you don't want to.

ofc with choice, there are a lot more bugs, tldr gnome, kde, xfce all are bad


Also the source is open so you can go make your own edits to your kernel and compile it. 

FelipeInside
Yeah, thats what I mean. So far I've been having a stable experience.

So having different desktops is what you call CHOICE? I can do that using Windows Blinds if need be. As for stable, I really can't remember the last time my desktop crashed.... maybe cause it was like 6 years ago??? Windows desktop is stable now, this isn't XP anymore. Programs crash on every OS but the desktop doesn't really.

Don't you have to pay for Windows Blinds? and Start8? I mean with linux, if you want a touchscreen UI, you can, if you want a traditional UI, you can, right out of the box. And I didn't say Windows desktop was unstable, I said so far my Linux desktop has been stable, and bug free. I'm still messing around with it.
#12 Posted by FelipeInside (25969 posts) -
Hopfully Linux will get more popular, because Linux offers actual CHOICE.AlexKidd5000
What CHOICE do you speak of that Windows doesn't have? I can do anything I want with Windows.
#13 Posted by AlexKidd5000 (1817 posts) -

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="AlexKidd5000"]Hopfully Linux will get more popular, because Linux offers actual CHOICE.JigglyWiggly_

What CHOICE do you speak of that Windows doesn't have? I can do anything I want with Windows.

 

He might mean like different desktop environments. One thing that's nice is even if your desktop environment crashes in Linux, you can still go to the termianl with ctrl + alt + f1-f7 and restart it that way. Windows you have to hard reset. You can also use no desktop environment if you don't want to.

ofc with choice, there are a lot more bugs, tldr gnome, kde, xfce all are bad


Also the source is open so you can go make your own edits to your kernel and compile it. 

Yeah, thats what I mean. So far I've been having a stable experience.
#14 Posted by dramaybaz (6020 posts) -
Isn't that like the main thing that makes Windows 8 Windows 8?
#15 Posted by FelipeInside (25969 posts) -
[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] What CHOICE do you speak of that Windows doesn't have? I can do anything I want with Windows.AlexKidd5000

 

He might mean like different desktop environments. One thing that's nice is even if your desktop environment crashes in Linux, you can still go to the termianl with ctrl + alt + f1-f7 and restart it that way. Windows you have to hard reset. You can also use no desktop environment if you don't want to.

ofc with choice, there are a lot more bugs, tldr gnome, kde, xfce all are bad


Also the source is open so you can go make your own edits to your kernel and compile it. 

Yeah, thats what I mean. So far I've been having a stable experience.

So having different desktops is what you call CHOICE? I can do that using Windows Blinds if need be. As for stable, I really can't remember the last time my desktop crashed.... maybe cause it was like 6 years ago??? Windows desktop is stable now, this isn't XP anymore. Programs crash on every OS but the desktop doesn't really.
#16 Posted by FelipeInside (25969 posts) -
[QUOTE="AlexKidd5000"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="AlexKidd5000"] Yeah, thats what I mean. So far I've been having a stable experience.

So having different desktops is what you call CHOICE? I can do that using Windows Blinds if need be. As for stable, I really can't remember the last time my desktop crashed.... maybe cause it was like 6 years ago??? Windows desktop is stable now, this isn't XP anymore. Programs crash on every OS but the desktop doesn't really.

Don't you have to pay for Windows Blinds? and Start8? I mean with linux, if you want a touchscreen UI, you can, if you want a traditional UI, you can, right out of the box. And I didn't say Windows desktop was unstable, I said so far my Linux desktop has been stable, and bug free. I'm still messing around with it.

No, Jiggs said it was unstable....he must still be on XP. And yes, some programs you have to pay for, others are free. I'm just saying that you can do anything you want on Windows as well... even more if you consider the amount of software available for it.
#17 Posted by AlexKidd5000 (1817 posts) -
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="AlexKidd5000"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] So having different desktops is what you call CHOICE? I can do that using Windows Blinds if need be. As for stable, I really can't remember the last time my desktop crashed.... maybe cause it was like 6 years ago??? Windows desktop is stable now, this isn't XP anymore. Programs crash on every OS but the desktop doesn't really.

Don't you have to pay for Windows Blinds? and Start8? I mean with linux, if you want a touchscreen UI, you can, if you want a traditional UI, you can, right out of the box. And I didn't say Windows desktop was unstable, I said so far my Linux desktop has been stable, and bug free. I'm still messing around with it.

No, Jiggs said it was unstable....he must still be on XP. And yes, some programs you have to pay for, others are free. I'm just saying that you can do anything you want on Windows as well... even more if you consider the amount of software available for it.

True. Windows has sheer volume of software on its side no doubt. And I don't recall Win7 ever crashing on me either in the 3 years I've used it. Linux does alot with very little.
#18 Posted by lhughey (4256 posts) -
Thats great, but its really no big deal to boot into Metro then start typing the program you want, then press enter to open it in desktop mode. Its actually easier than the start menu. And if you want to go to the desktop mode, press Windows key-D. Is one stroke really that hard? -- That's not what she said :)
#19 Posted by JigglyWiggly_ (23715 posts) -

i hate assembly men
i just have to get it done with
C crosscompiling so much easier.

also mips is not x86 ;p

x86 is much worse ofc

#20 Posted by JigglyWiggly_ (23715 posts) -

[QUOTE="AlexKidd5000"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] So having different desktops is what you call CHOICE? I can do that using Windows Blinds if need be. As for stable, I really can't remember the last time my desktop crashed.... maybe cause it was like 6 years ago??? Windows desktop is stable now, this isn't XP anymore. Programs crash on every OS but the desktop doesn't really.FelipeInside
Don't you have to pay for Windows Blinds? and Start8? I mean with linux, if you want a touchscreen UI, you can, if you want a traditional UI, you can, right out of the box. And I didn't say Windows desktop was unstable, I said so far my Linux desktop has been stable, and bug free. I'm still messing around with it.

No, Jiggs said it was unstable....he must still be on XP. And yes, some programs you have to pay for, others are free. I'm just saying that you can do anything you want on Windows as well... even more if you consider the amount of software available for it.

nah

when I leave mars open for too long my whole gui explodes

but javaolol

#21 Posted by FelipeInside (25969 posts) -

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="AlexKidd5000"] Don't you have to pay for Windows Blinds? and Start8? I mean with linux, if you want a touchscreen UI, you can, if you want a traditional UI, you can, right out of the box. And I didn't say Windows desktop was unstable, I said so far my Linux desktop has been stable, and bug free. I'm still messing around with it.JigglyWiggly_

No, Jiggs said it was unstable....he must still be on XP. And yes, some programs you have to pay for, others are free. I'm just saying that you can do anything you want on Windows as well... even more if you consider the amount of software available for it.

nah

when I leave mars open for too long my whole gui explodes

but javaolol

You really need to upgrade that 486....lollololololololol
#22 Posted by imprezawrx500 (19187 posts) -

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="AlexKidd5000"]Hopfully Linux will get more popular, because Linux offers actual CHOICE.JigglyWiggly_

What CHOICE do you speak of that Windows doesn't have? I can do anything I want with Windows.

 

He might mean like different desktop environments. One thing that's nice is even if your desktop environment crashes in Linux, you can still go to the termianl with ctrl + alt + f1-f7 and restart it that way. Windows you have to hard reset. You can also use no desktop environment if you don't want to.

ofc with choice, there are a lot more bugs, tldr gnome, kde, xfce all are bad


Also the source is open so you can go make your own edits to your kernel and compile it. 

that depends on the crash, if explorer crashes you can easily open up task manager and restart it or the computer. I don't see the big deal around metro, sure the old start menu did work well but metro isn't that bad once used to it and is probably better for 'dumb' computer users.
#23 Posted by JigglyWiggly_ (23715 posts) -

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] What CHOICE do you speak of that Windows doesn't have? I can do anything I want with Windows.imprezawrx500

 

He might mean like different desktop environments. One thing that's nice is even if your desktop environment crashes in Linux, you can still go to the termianl with ctrl + alt + f1-f7 and restart it that way. Windows you have to hard reset. You can also use no desktop environment if you don't want to.

ofc with choice, there are a lot more bugs, tldr gnome, kde, xfce all are bad


Also the source is open so you can go make your own edits to your kernel and compile it. 

 that depends on the crash, if explorer crashes you can easily open up task manager and restart it or the computer. I don't see the big deal around metro, sure the old start menu did work well but metro isn't that bad once used to it and is probably better for 'dumb' computer users.

That sometimes works too. But sometimes you have a program that just makes your screen go black, and you have to hope you ctrl + alt + del blindly correctly

#24 Posted by Horgen (110301 posts) -
[QUOTE="General_X"]Once again Microsoft shows that every other release is basically a beta test for the real deal to come afterwords lol. Never understood why they couldn't just have something like: If: desktop then: Boot into desktop view If: tablet then: Boot into Modern UI For reals.

Please do not suggest anything that makes sense.
#25 Posted by Mozuckint (802 posts) -

Apparently Paul Thurrott says yes it's true

#26 Posted by FelipeInside (25969 posts) -
Is this Windows "Blue" a brand new OS or just like a Service Pack for Windows 8?
#27 Posted by Mozuckint (802 posts) -
Is this Windows "Blue" a brand new OS or just like a Service Pack for Windows 8?FelipeInside
As far as the world knows, it's been described as a service pack.
#28 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13635 posts) -

I had windows XP until 2009 or 2010.  I can deal with windows 7 for a few more years.

#29 Posted by imprezawrx500 (19187 posts) -
how did you put up with that outdated os for so long? Vista is so much better
#30 Posted by FelipeInside (25969 posts) -
how did you put up with that outdated os for so long? Vista is so much betterimprezawrx500
Vista better than XP? Does not compute...
#31 Posted by AlexKidd5000 (1817 posts) -
how did you put up with that outdated os for so long? Vista is so much betterimprezawrx500
I used XP until Feb 2010.
#32 Posted by Travis_Odell (1701 posts) -
I'm still using XP 64 on one of my pcs.
#33 Posted by FelipeInside (25969 posts) -
[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]how did you put up with that outdated os for so long? Vista is so much betterAlexKidd5000
I used XP until Feb 2010.

I'm still using XP 64 on one of my pcs.Travis_Odell
For old PCs that just need to do Internet or Work things, XP is still fine. At my work we still have plenty of PCs on XP. Be aware though that support ends next year for it.
#34 Posted by imprezawrx500 (19187 posts) -
[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]how did you put up with that outdated os for so long? Vista is so much betterFelipeInside
Vista better than XP? Does not compute...

Have you actually used it? Vista was buggy at launch but it is pretty good now and sure xp works but has many missing features you come to expect.
#35 Posted by FelipeInside (25969 posts) -
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]how did you put up with that outdated os for so long? Vista is so much betterimprezawrx500
Vista better than XP? Does not compute...

Have you actually used it? Vista was buggy at launch but it is pretty good now and sure xp works but has many missing features you come to expect.

Yeah I've used it, extensively. You are right, it has gotten better with updates but it's still has issues, especially in a networked domain environment. If I had to choose between Vista and XP, I would still go XP.