Would you drive over a frozen ocean for $1,300?

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#1 topsemag55
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Maximum guts: Ice Road Truckers.

These people make in the neighborhood of $1,300 per load, hauling stuff from Fairbanks to Prudhoe Bay, Alaska during the winter season.

Mountain ranges, roads with grades as high as 13%, fog, blowing snow, blizzards with up to 70-MPH winds.

Seeing your tires spinning, fighting to keep traction on a road of solid ice.

From Prudhoe Bay is an oil rig 70 miles north. To deliver freight to it you have to drive over frozen ocean, and your rig can weigh 90,000 lbs.

I just finished watching a couple of episodes, and although it's different, it had me on the edge of my seat a few times.

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Would you do this job for $1,300 per load?

I'm licensed to drive an 18-wheeler, but I don't think I would want to risk it.

Edit: Only thing I could think of being more nerve-wracking than driving on solid ice would be Bomb Disposal.

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#2 Locke562
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Nah, But I'd cut both my arms off for a billion dollars.
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#3 Mario2007
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Nah, But I'd cut both my arms off for a billion dollars.Locke562
:o But you couldn't spend the money with no hands!
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Nah, But I'd cut both my arms off for a billion dollars.Locke562

Using what?

Because if you were to use a saw, then you would cut one arm off using your other arm, then how do you cut that arm off? :shock:

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#5 Bioshockraptor
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Definately not, I can't even drive yet :shock:.
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#6 joesh89
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I use to watch that series, some hair raising stuff... I don't think I would have the bottle to do it.

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#7 DarknessLion
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I always thought of doing it. It looks like its pretty exciting but very dangerous.
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#8 -Fromage-
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I could maybe get talked into it, but I'd be scared stiff the entire trip. Every sound would worry me.
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#9 RearNakedChoke
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There's a crazy clip from ice road truckers where the ice is undulating like ocean waves behind one of the big rigs. It's insane.

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I saw this show on tv, I was like :shock: Those guys have balls of steel. Steeeeeeeel.
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I think it would depend on how long the drive was, and how often I could be guaranteed to get a load. Is it $1,300 for a day's drive? A week's drive? Do you spend half of your money waiting around for your next job?

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#12 8732_YoungJeezy
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hell yea I would

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#13 Never3ndingLife
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nah i rather go to college lol
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#14 avatar_genius
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Oh, Arctic ocean? That doesn't sound as dramatic.

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I think it would depend on how long the drive was, and how often I could be guaranteed to get a load. Is it $1,300 for a day's drive? A week's drive? Do you spend half of your money waiting around for your next job?

swamprat_basic

You get the $1,300 from the trucking company once the load is delivered.

Usually, the driver gets an immediate load going back. But sometimes they crash for the night and start the next day.

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#16 chAzN93
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SURE WHY NOT
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#17 topsemag55
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Oh, Arctic ocean? That doesn't sound as dramatic.

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Oh, how so?

I saw an entire rig break through the Arctic Ocean ice, and sink immediately to the bottom during one cutscene.:o

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#18 Mr_Leonis
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Um, no. Don't want to be near a frozen ocean.
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#19 trubluah
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AGREED! Having bionic strength arms is win!
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#20 avatar_genius
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[QUOTE="Locke562"]Nah, But I'd cut both my arms off for a billion dollars.awssk8er716

Using what?

Because if you were to use a saw, then you would cut one arm off using your other arm, then how do you cut that arm off? :shock:

There was a thread on that a couple days ago.

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#21 avatar_genius
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[QUOTE="avatar_genius"]

Oh, Arctic ocean? That doesn't sound as dramatic.

topsemag55

Oh, how so?

I saw an entire rig break through the Arctic Ocean ice, and sink immediately to the bottom during one cutscene.:o

If you drove on it near December solstice, you could probably do it.

Yeah, there's danger involved, but I imagine it could be doable (unless I'm wrong).

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#22 topsemag55
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[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

[QUOTE="avatar_genius"]

Oh, Arctic ocean? That doesn't sound as dramatic.

avatar_genius

Oh, how so?

I saw an entire rig break through the Arctic Ocean ice, and sink immediately to the bottom during one cutscene.:o

If you drove on it near December solstice, you could probably do it.

Yeah, there's danger involved, but I imagine it could be doable (unless I'm wrong).

You are right, it is definitely doable, but scary as hell.....you see the ice cracking right in front of you, and the sound of it in the stillness of winter is spine-tingling.

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#23 avatar_genius
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[QUOTE="avatar_genius"]

[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

Oh, how so?

I saw an entire rig break through the Arctic Ocean ice, and sink immediately to the bottom during one cutscene.:o

topsemag55

If you drove on it near December solstice, you could probably do it.

Yeah, there's danger involved, but I imagine it could be doable (unless I'm wrong).

You are right, it is definitely doable, but scary as hell.....you see the ice cracking right in front of you, and the sound of it in the stillness of winter is spine-tingling.

That's why you should have a safety team on-by.

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#24 topsemag55
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I was living on that northern coast (well west of Prudhoe Bay) for a year, and I saw the ocean freeze solid.

We were not permitted to walk on it however.

There were times we couldn't even step outside, as the wind chill went as far down as -150 F. Any exposed skin would freeze within 5 seconds at that temperature.

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#25 judog1
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I was thinking of that scene in the Mighty ducks but this is some dangerous stuff, I wouldn't do it.
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#26 194197844077667059316682358889
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Nah, But I'd cut both my arms off for a billion dollars.Locke562
I'd cut both of your arms off for significantly less
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#27 avatar_genius
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[QUOTE="Locke562"]Nah, But I'd cut both my arms off for a billion dollars.xaos
I'd cut both of your arms off for significantly less

You have to do it to yourself, that's the point.

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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Locke562"]Nah, But I'd cut both my arms off for a billion dollars.avatar_genius

I'd cut both of your arms off for significantly less

You have to do it to yourself, that's the point.

Well that would just be idiotic.
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#29 Foggel
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Has there been an accident on the show? Discovery channel tend to be over-dramatical.

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#30 Foggel
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Locke562"]Nah, But I'd cut both my arms off for a billion dollars.avatar_genius

I'd cut both of your arms off for significantly less

You have to do it to yourself, that's the point.

Good luck. I would like to see the look on your face when you cut off one arm, and realize you're unable to cut off the other. Not getting a single dollar.

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#31 avatar_genius
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[QUOTE="avatar_genius"]

[QUOTE="xaos"] I'd cut both of your arms off for significantly lessFoggel

You have to do it to yourself, that's the point.

Good luck. I would like to see the look on your face when you cut off one arm, and realize you're unable to cut off the other. Not getting a single dollar.

Great.

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Maximum guts: Ice Road Truckers.

These people make in the neighborhood of $1,300 per load, hauling stuff from Fairbanks to Prudhoe Bay, Alaska during the winter season.

Mountain ranges, roads with grades as high as 13%, fog, blowing snow, blizzards with up to 70-MPH winds.

Seeing your tires spinning, fighting to keep traction on a road of solid ice.

From Prudhoe Bay is an oil rig 70 miles north. To deliver freight to it you have to drive over frozen ocean, and your rig can weigh 90,000 lbs.

I just finished watching a couple of episodes, and although it's different, it had me on the edge of my seat a few times.

Link

Would you do this job for $1,300 per load?

I'm licensed to drive an 18-wheeler, but I don't think I would want to risk it.

Edit: Only thing I could think of being more nerve-wracking than driving on solid ice would be Bomb Disposal.

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1) You say $1300 per load, but how does this translate into dollars per year? What does the average ice road trucker make in a year? Because the amount of money per load means little to me, since I have no idea how much time it takes to haul a load, or how many loads are hauled per year.

2) I doubt that it's that dangerous. I find it hard to believe that the condition of the ice isn't monitored. And I'm willing to bet that VERY few people get killed by going through the ice. Because even if nobody cared about the safety of the truckers, the fact is that the truckers are HAULING A LOAD. A load that has to get somewhere, and a load that is going to get lost if the ice breaks. No one wants a driver to get killed, but let's suppose for a minute that no one cares about the drivers. The driver is hauling a load. If the driver goes through the ice, the load goes through the ice with them.

And even on a return trip after delivering the load, a driver going through the ice means that the TRUCK has gone through the ice. And I'm willing to bet that no one wants to lose an entire freaking truck.

It's like, I hear that these guys are required to stop and rest for a certain number of hours after spending so much amount of time driving. This is reasonable. It not only ensures the safety of the DRIVERS, but it also ensures the safety of the LOAD and the TRUCK. It's in no one's best interest that someone on an ice road sinks into the sea, and I'm betting that that's VERY rare.

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#33 SpaceMoose
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I'm curious as to what that comes out to per hour versus regular truck driving, but I don't do regular truck driving either, so obviously not.
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#34 topsemag55
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1) You say $1300 per load

MrGeezer

Try watching an episode or two prior to debate.:)

Your questions are actually answered within them.:)

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#35 perphekt
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No, i wouldn't... because i have a severe fear of being trapped in a car and crashing into a river/lake/ocean/large body of water... and drowning. So no thank you.
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#36 worthyofnote
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I'm not a fan of the cold, so no.

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#37 monkeyd_93
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i think it would be very hard for the ocean to be frozen, but sure why not, its not like we are going to get pulled over by a shark and get mugged ;)
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#38 Cactus_Matt
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I'd do it for $1300.01, but not $1300, no sir.

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#39 topsemag55
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I'd do it for $1300.01, but not $1300, no sir.

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If you get a CDL, get hired & on that road making deliveries, I'll send you that penny.:P:lol:

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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]1) You say $1300 per load

topsemag55

Try watching an episode or two prior to debate.:)

Your questions are actually answered within them.:)

So in other words you don't know how much it amounts to per hour. Per load is a pretty meaningless figure. When you see a truck driver job advertised somewhere - which you obviously have if you have a CDL license - they generally say how much it pays per mile rather than per load, because per mile is far more meaningful to that particular job. In this particular case, I don't know how informative per mile would even really be since they are obviously going to be slower miles. Television shows like to use meaningless figures if it makes something sound outstanding in some way. Actually, pretty much all media outlets like to do that. $1300 per load is a lot if a trip only takes an eight hour work day, but doesn't really mean much if we're talking two weeks.

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#41 Brainkiller05
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sounds risky... I'm in :D
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#42 Theokhoth
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Considering I'd probably pay more than that for gas for the trip, no.

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#43 topsemag55
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SpaceMoose

So in other words you don't know how much it amounts to per hour. Per load is a pretty meaningless figure. When you see a truck driver job advertised somewhere - which you obviously have if you have a CDL license - they generally say how much it pays per mile rather than per load, because per mile is far more meaningful to that particular job. In this particular case, I don't know how informative per mile would even really be since they are obviously going to be slower miles. Television shows like to use meaningless figures if it makes something sound outstanding in some way. Actually, pretty much all media outlets like to do that. $1300 per load is a lot if a trip only takes an eight hour work day, but doesn't really mean much if we're talking two weeks.

I can't say a per-mile rate if it isn't stated. *facepalm* The driver himself didn't veer off from that figure, either.

Common sense dictates that if the company they work for doesn't put it on the air, then no one viewing it would know, would they?

Unless a run is a round-trip, then it could be they're getting $2,600 per round-trip, since they get a return load.

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I can't say a per-mile rate if it isn't stated. *facepalm* The driver himself didn't veer off from that figure, either.

Common sense dictates that if the company they work for doesn't put it on the air, then no one viewing it would know, would they?...topsemag55

And yet you told MrGeezer to watch the show for the information. (Well, specifically what he asked is dollars per year, but it's kind of the same idea.) Either per mile or per unit of time would at least be more informative than per load, with per hour perhaps being the most informative. I have almost no concept of how much work or time spent "per load" means. Whether a delivery route is 10 miles or 1,000 miles, that's still a load.

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#45 kemar7856
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if I can deliver the loads on a hovercraft or one of those trucks from the jetsons I would

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#46 Foggel
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if I can deliver the loads on a hovercraft or one of those trucks from the jetsons I would

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By the time we get technology like that, ice only exist in our freezers.
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#47 Deathxcore
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No way, I hate the cold period.
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#48 kweeni
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that show is on every day but i don't watch it lol(might start watching it though) it's verry dangerous, and i don't even have a driving liscens lol
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[QUOTE="Locke562"]Nah, But I'd cut both my arms off for a billion dollars.Mario2007
:o But you couldn't spend the money with no hands!

That's why you get fake ones ;)
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#50 topsemag55
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[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

I can't say a per-mile rate if it isn't stated. *facepalm* The driver himself didn't veer off from that figure, either.

Common sense dictates that if the company they work for doesn't put it on the air, then no one viewing it would know, would they?...SpaceMoose

And yet you told MrGeezer to watch the show for the information. (Well, specifically what he asked is dollars per year, but it's kind of the same idea.) Either per mile or per unit of time would at least be more informative than per load, with per hour perhaps being the most informative. I have almost no concept of how much work or time spent "per load" means. Whether a delivery route is 10 miles or 1,000 miles, that's still a load.

I did watch it - that's how I knew the $1,300 figure (how else would I know?). Sheesh, Moose.:P