Why Spanking High-School Students Is Dangerous

This seems wrong.

http://www.livescience.com/23496-spanking-high-school-students-texas-policy.html

In a seemingly counterintuitive move, a Texas school district has changed its policies to allow opposite-gender faculty to paddle students after a controversy regarding two high-school girls being paddled by a male vice principal.

The Texas controversy began after two parents in Springtown, Texas, complained that their daughters had been paddled by male faculty hard enough to leave welts and bruises.

On Monday night (Sept. 24), the school district responded to the controversy by altering their policy to allow opposite-sex faculty to spank students. Texas is one of the 19 states where school corporal punishment is still legal, according to the nonprofit Center for Effective Discipline. In 2005-2006, the most recent school year data is available, about 1 percent of Texas students were physically punished, according to the Center's data. That year, Mississippi schools engaged in the most corporal punishment compared with the other 18 states, with 7.5 percent of students getting paddled.

Effects of spanking

Because it would be unethical to randomly assign kids to lives where they are either spanked or not spanked the experimental method researchers turn to correlational studies to look for links between spanking and behavior. They find that spanking is linked with aggression, delinquency, mental health problems and difficulties in parent-child relationships. There are even studies suggesting that spanking lowers intelligence, but those findings are uncertain as researchers don't yet understand what drives the link, said Elizabeth Gershoff, a professor of human development and family sciences at the University of Texas, Austin.

The correlations hold even after controlling for factors such as socioeconomic status or how aggressive a child is to start with. Critics often argue that already-aggressive children get spanked more, Gershoff told LIveScience.

"That's definitely true, but it doesn't explain the whole story," she said. "Even when you put that into the equation, [spanking] still predicts an increase in aggression. In no case does spanking make kids less aggressive."

The aggression-spanking link is likely a result of learned behavior, social scientists say. When kids see their parents using violence, they can reach the conclusion that hitting is sometimes okay.

"They come to think of using physical force or violence as an acceptable way to get what they want," said Jennifer Lansford, a researcher at Duke University's Center for Child and Family Policy. "Then they are more likely, in the future, to themselves use physical force."

I can' t say I' m surprised to learn about this. The USA can be a great place to live (well... compared to where I live) but sadly they can' t escape from crap. Crap is all over the place.

In a seemingly counterintuitive move, a Texas school district has changed its policies to allow opposite-gender faculty to paddle students

tenaka2

I would've LOVED this policy in High School.

awwwwwwww yeeeeeeeah

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

In a seemingly counterintuitive move, a Texas school district has changed its policies to allow opposite-gender faculty to paddle students

THE_DRUGGIE

I would've LOVED this policy in High School.

awwwwwwww yeeeeeeeah

Is there something wrong with giving 50 year old men the right to use a paddle and spank teenage girls when ever he dicides they need discipline?

THis seems very wrong to me but perhaps I just have a dirty mind.

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

In a seemingly counterintuitive move, a Texas school district has changed its policies to allow opposite-gender faculty to paddle students

tenaka2

I would've LOVED this policy in High School.

awwwwwwww yeeeeeeeah

Is there something wrong with giving 50 year old men the right to use a paddle and spank teenage girls when ever he dicides they need discipline?

THis seems very wrong to me but perhaps I just have a dirty mind.

Oh, I was thinking of that hot math teacher.

Mrs. Liebowtiz could give me a paddlin' any day.

I got paddled quite a bit in elementary school. However, in fifth grade while being paddled I started laughing. Mrs. Perkins said "Oh, you like it, hunh?" really sarcastically, so I said "Yeah.....sexually."

Never got paddled again.:D

Spanking doesn't work on older kids...

Maybe kids during their elementary years but then again, it's never a good idea to spank.

In my school the kid was more likely to turn round and put the teacher on the floor if they even tried anythin like this, besides there's somethin creepy about old men having permission to spank young teen girls whenever they feel.

I can't believe know one thought of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFgR0m-9FmM

High school kids get spanked? News to me.

High school kids get spanked? News to me.

sonicare

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

In a seemingly counterintuitive move, a Texas school district has changed its policies to allow opposite-gender faculty to paddle students

tenaka2

I would've LOVED this policy in High School.

awwwwwwww yeeeeeeeah

Is there something wrong with giving 50 year old men the right to use a paddle and spank teenage girls when ever he dicides they need discipline?

THis seems very wrong to me but perhaps I just have a dirty mind.

This seems wrong.

http://www.livescience.com/23496-spanking-high-school-students-texas-policy.html

In a seemingly counterintuitive move, a Texas school district has changed its policies to allow opposite-gender faculty to paddle students after a controversy regarding two high-school girls being paddled by a male vice principal.

The Texas controversy began after two parents in Springtown, Texas, complained that their daughters had been paddled by male faculty hard enough to leave welts and bruises.

On Monday night (Sept. 24), the school district responded to the controversy by altering their policy to allow opposite-sex faculty to spank students. Texas is one of the 19 states where school corporal punishment is still legal, according to the nonprofit Center for Effective Discipline. In 2005-2006, the most recent school year data is available, about 1 percent of Texas students were physically punished, according to the Center's data. That year, Mississippi schools engaged in the most corporal punishment compared with the other 18 states, with 7.5 percent of students getting paddled.

tenaka2

This seems wrong.

*copypasted livescience article*tenaka2

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]This seems wrong.

*copypasted livescience article*Overlord93

In my defence I also post stuff from ScienceDaily :P

I'm in no way against corporal punishment if the offense is bad enough.

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

High school kids get spanked? News to me.

sSubZerOo

IIRC, Alabama does it too

Violent actions against a weaker party ultimately end in more violence and will have adverse effects. It's the same thing over and over on pretty much every level, so it's no wonder that it's the same case for the spanking of high school students.
It seems humans are unable to draw a line between justified punishment and excessive violence, I believe that this is because humans are unable to make a objective comparison when there is personal involvement.

Violent actions against a weaker party ultimately end in more violence and will have adverse effects. It's the same thing over and over on pretty much every level, so it's no wonder that it's the same case for the spanking of high school students.
It seems humans are unable to draw a line between justified punishment and excessive violence, I believe that this is because humans are unable to make a objective comparison when there is personal involvement.

rastotm

From a personal experience, I have to agree. There are many other methods that don't involve violence that work better in both the short term and long term.

As for the act of spanking older teenagers, it's goddamn stupid. It's more understandable if you were to spank a 10 year old (i'd be against it still but hey, your child right?) but spanking a teen is like punching an elephant. It's not going to work at all.

I got paddled quite a bit in elementary school. However, in fifth grade while being paddled I started laughing. Mrs. Perkins said "Oh, you like it, hunh?" really sarcastically, so I said "Yeah.....sexually."

Never got paddled again.:D

br0kenrabbit

genius :D

LOL, Texas

I'm in no way against corporal punishment if the offense is bad enough.

airshocker

And when the teacher doing the paddlin' is a real fox.

Corporal punishment is still legally allowed ....:lol::lol::lol::lol:

And US medias likes to claim that China has a worse human right record? China banned School corporal punishment back in 1994, though it's still happening in some schools, at least it is by law illegal.

In my school the kid was more likely to turn round and put the teacher on the floor if they even tried anythin like this

l34052

Corporal punishment is still legally allowed ....:lol::lol::lol::lol:

And US medias likes to claim that China has a worse human right record? China banned School corporal punishment back in 1994, though it's still happening in some schools, at least it is by law illegal.

Ncsoftlover

First off, China does have a terrible human rights record. The US doesn't but we're not that perfect but compared to China, we're a friggen paradise.

Second, spanking isn't that bad, assuming the person spanks on the buttocks and does so without being angry. In fact, to compare legal spanking to China's numerous human rights violations is an insult.

The problem I have with spanking is that parents who do use it tend to be angrier and aggressive and they sometimes don't apply it on the butt but rather the face. I can tell you from a personal experience it doesn't work, which is why there are better alternatives. Call me a leftist, I don't care, spanking doesn't work because in the end, it creates more problems than solutions.

This thread is dumb.

[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

Corporal punishment is still legally allowed ....:lol::lol::lol::lol:

And US medias likes to claim that China has a worse human right record? China banned School corporal punishment back in 1994, though it's still happening in some schools, at least it is by law illegal.

leviathan91

First off, China does have a terrible human rights record. The US doesn't but we're not that perfect but compared to China, we're a friggen paradise.

Second, spanking isn't that bad, assuming the person spanks on the buttocks and does so without being angry. In fact, to compare legal spanking to China's numerous human rights violations is an insult.

The problem I have with spanking is that parents who do use it tend to be angrier and aggressive and they sometimes don't apply it on the butt but rather the face. I can tell you from a personal experience it doesn't work, which is why there are better alternatives. Call me a leftist, I don't care, spanking doesn't work because in the end, it creates more problems than solutions.

I wasn't really serious, this is almost as funny as the US legalizing homosexual activity in 2003, China did it in 1999.

In Alabama,Florida,Idaho,Kansas,Louisiana,Michigan,Missouri,Mississippi,North Carolina,Oklahoma,South Carolina,Texas,Utah, andVirginia, it was technically by law illegal for gay people to have sex until 2003.

It's not correct to say that China has a better human right record, but it's hilarious when I find things like this. It's shows in relative to other developed nations( for example, Netherlands banned school corporal punishment in 1920, and legalized same sex activity in 1811) how slow US is at these things.

Corporal punishment is still legally allowed ....:lol::lol::lol::lol:

And US medias likes to claim that China has a worse human right record? China banned School corporal punishment back in 1994, though it's still happening in some schools, at least it is by law illegal.

Ncsoftlover

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

Corporal punishment is still legally allowed ....:lol::lol::lol::lol:

And US medias likes to claim that China has a worse human right record? China banned School corporal punishment back in 1994, though it's still happening in some schools, at least it is by law illegal.

Ncsoftlover

First off, China does have a terrible human rights record. The US doesn't but we're not that perfect but compared to China, we're a friggen paradise.

Second, spanking isn't that bad, assuming the person spanks on the buttocks and does so without being angry. In fact, to compare legal spanking to China's numerous human rights violations is an insult.

The problem I have with spanking is that parents who do use it tend to be angrier and aggressive and they sometimes don't apply it on the butt but rather the face. I can tell you from a personal experience it doesn't work, which is why there are better alternatives. Call me a leftist, I don't care, spanking doesn't work because in the end, it creates more problems than solutions.

I wasn't really serious, this is almost as funny as the US legalizing homosexual activity in 2003, China did it in 1999.

In Alabama,Florida,Idaho,Kansas,Louisiana,Michigan,Missouri,Mississippi,North Carolina,Oklahoma,South Carolina,Texas,Utah, andVirginia, it was technically by law illegal for gay people to have sex until 2003.

It's not correct to say that China has a better human right record, but it's hilarious when I find things like this. It's shows in relative to other developed nations( for example, Netherlands banned school corporal punishment in 1920, and legalized same sex activity in 1811) how slow US is at these things.

I got paddled quite a bit in elementary school. However, in fifth grade while being paddled I started laughing. Mrs. Perkins said "Oh, you like it, hunh?" really sarcastically, so I said "Yeah.....sexually."

Never got paddled again.:D

br0kenrabbit

Not even our military resorts to this.

Parents really shouldn't be spanking kids, if they are then they're bad parents. Schools spanking kids is just ludicrious. Schools spanking high school kids is f*cking retarded, and male administrators spanking high school girls is f*cking perverted.

Wow, I want to go to that school.

Perhaps a hard spanking is in order.

Oh Texas, you crazy state. l4dak47

I'm gonna be honest here: it really does seem like texans are trying to reverse social progress all the time.

regarding two high-school girls being paddled by a male vice principal.

tenaka2

Most of the porn I watch starts this way. I do love re-watching my home movies.

I don't condone spanking but I see no difference whether it's a man or a women doing the spanking. If it's by the same sex the person could very well be gay and enjoy that as well so it's impossible to judge.

What many are failing to understand is that while Texas still allows corporal punishment in school, all that happened was a change in code due to a response from a parent whose daughter elected to be paddled instead of sitting in in-school detention for another day and missing classes.

The girl chose the punishment, yet as typical with OT, fail to understand all the facts.

Personally, the "board of education" should never have been done away with in schools. Kids nowadays would have learned long time ago, that school was a place to learn and not screw around. While I never got the paddle, I know of those who did and they didn't act up after that, at least in school and back then, if you got a paddling in school, you were pretty much guaranteed to get one more when you got home from school.

Honestly, I don't think spanking works on older kids. But man would I had preferred to be spanked during high school than listen to lectures. Instead of talking my ear off for an hour about why something is bad, just spank me quick so we can both get back to business as usual. >_>

And when the teacher doing the paddlin' is a real fox.

THE_DRUGGIE

Paddling is kind of wimpy. We should go straight to whipping.

What many are failing to understand is that while Texas still allows corporal punishment in school, all that happened was a change in code due to a response from a parent whose daughter elected to be paddled instead of sitting in in-school detention for another day and missing classes.

The girl chose the punishment, yet as typical with OT, fail to understand all the facts.

Personally, the "board of education" should never have been done away with in schools. Kids nowadays would have learned long time ago, that school was a place to learn and not screw around. While I never got the paddle, I know of those who did and they didn't act up after that, at least in school and back then, if you got a paddling in school, you were pretty much guaranteed to get one more when you got home from school.

WhiteKnight77

What many are failing to understand is that while Texas still allows corporal punishment in school, all that happened was a change in code due to a response from a parent whose daughter elected to be paddled instead of sitting in in-school detention for another day and missing classes.

The girl chose the punishment, yet as typical with OT, fail to understand all the facts.

Personally, the "board of education" should never have been done away with in schools. Kids nowadays would have learned long time ago, that school was a place to learn and not screw around. While I never got the paddle, I know of those who did and they didn't act up after that, at least in school and back then, if you got a paddling in school, you were pretty much guaranteed to get one more when you got home from school.

WhiteKnight77

lol Texas.. Oh Texas...