why do you think god has the right to judge you?

lookin more for your view, and less for your "answer".

you can even not believe in god, all input is welcome.

If there is a perfect being out there, I would think it is the only thing with the proper credentials for "judging".

If I paint a picture or make a sandwich I have every right to say "Wow, this sucks" and then verbally abuse my creation for not being what I wanted to to be.

Now, in Gods/our case he gave us free will and told us to be a certain way and then in the event we disobey him he has even more right to abuse us.

Judge not lest ye be judged.........so yea god im watching you too :x

The Almighty will have a lot to answer for on Judgement Day.

And I won't go easy on Him. :evil:

Because he has the ultimate banhammer! :evil:

If (hypotheticaly) god created us, then he has evrey right to judge us.

Hell if a random guy who went trough law school and has no connection with us can judge us then i think the being that created us certainly has :D

If I paint a picture or make a sandwich I have every right to say "Wow, this sucks" and then verbally abuse my creation for not being what I wanted to to be.

Now, in Gods/our case he gave us free will and told us to be a certain way and then in the event we disobey him he has even more right to abuse us.

DigitalExile

Errr...Because he created us. Do you think your PArents have the right to Judge your actions?

You're also forgiven for your sins through Penance and Confession so...:P

If I paint a picture or make a sandwich I have every right to say "Wow, this sucks" and then verbally abuse my creation for not being what I wanted to to be.

Now, in Gods/our case he gave us free will and told us to be a certain way and then in the event we disobey him he has even more right to abuse us.

DigitalExile

Yeah, I agree with this.

No all-loving, benevolent being would "judge" his creation. Every action that creation performs would be in reverence of that being, whether good, bad or neutral.

If I paint a picture or make a sandwich I have every right to say "Wow, this sucks" and then verbally abuse my creation for not being what I wanted to to be.

Now, in Gods/our case he gave us free will and told us to be a certain way and then in the event we disobey him he has even more right to abuse us.

DigitalExile

Well he is the one that made everything so I suppose he is allowed to judge his own creations.

No all-loving, benevolent being would "judge" his creation. Every action that creation performs would be in reverence of that being, whether good, bad or neutral.

foxhound_fox

interesting view finally an actual, serious response i personally dont believe god to be as perfect or all-loving as people claim em to be i respect others views (urs included) fully tho unless they start conflicting with how i want to live my live of coursei-rock-socks

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

If I paint a picture or make a sandwich I have every right to say "Wow, this sucks" and then verbally abuse my creation for not being what I wanted to to be.

Now, in Gods/our case he gave us free will and told us to be a certain way and then in the event we disobey him he has even more right to abuse us.

i-rock-socks

[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

If I paint a picture or make a sandwich I have every right to say "Wow, this sucks" and then verbally abuse my creation for not being what I wanted to to be.

Now, in Gods/our case he gave us free will and told us to be a certain way and then in the event we disobey him he has even more right to abuse us.

DigitalExile

YEah, and I don't think God "Abuses" His children. You have the ability to do whatever you like on Earth whether it be right or wrong.

[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

If I paint a picture or make a sandwich I have every right to say "Wow, this sucks" and then verbally abuse my creation for not being what I wanted to to be.

Now, in Gods/our case he gave us free will and told us to be a certain way and then in the event we disobey him he has even more right to abuse us.

DigitalExile

But you said that thinking and knowing are NOT the same originally, I'm saying they are because no one can KNOW anything about god, they can only think it.spazzx625

I disagree with that. We can know a great deal about God. While you many disagree and i respect your right to do so, God has revealed Himself in His creation, in the person of Jesus Christ, In His revealed Word, in fulfilled prophecy, and in the power of the Holy Spirit to change the lives of those that place their faith and trust in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]But you said that thinking and knowing are NOT the same originally, I'm saying they are because no one can KNOW anything about god, they can only think it.blackregiment

I disagree with that. We can know a great deal about God. While you many disagree and i respect your right to do so, God has revealed Himself in His creation, in the person of Jesus Christ, In His revealed Word, in fulfilled prophecy, and in the power of the Holy Spirit to change the lives of those that place their faith and trust in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.

[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"] i dont see where you keep getting that im implying someone knows about godspazzx625

what you think, not what you "know" i-rock-socks

it was perfectly adequate

you just didnt understand

and if that was the point that you were trying to get across, that you wanted clarification and werent arguing it was inadequate

even if my original post was inadequate, i clarified it many times

like i said, you just couldnt understand

if anyones getting bent out of shape its not me

Does the potter not have a right over the clay? If the creation falls from perfection should not the Creator make it right? This creation has fallen into sin and God will judge this world, bringing about perfection once again. For God to lovingly make this world perfect, should he not also destroy what is sinful? In order to make something good, you must purge that which is evil, not simply let it be.mindstorm

Well said. God's plan is an eternal one. As humans, we tend to focus on this temporal world and forget that this life is but a wisp of smoke compared to eternity. Our human tendency to think in temporal terms, often results in many having difficulty accepting the sovereignty of God over His creation.

[QUOTE="i-rock-socks"]interesting view finally an actual, serious response i personally dont believe god to be as perfect or all-loving as people claim em to be i respect others views (urs included) fully tho unless they start conflicting with how i want to live my live of coursefoxhound_fox

you wouldnt think of him as ur god?

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]But you said that thinking and knowing are NOT the same originally, I'm saying they are because no one can KNOW anything about god, they can only think it.spazzx625

I disagree with that. We can know a great deal about God. While you many disagree and i respect your right to do so, God has revealed Himself in His creation, in the person of Jesus Christ, In His revealed Word, in fulfilled prophecy, and in the power of the Holy Spirit to change the lives of those that place their faith and trust in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.

No, actually your suggestion that it is a belief is actually a belief. God's revelation in the areas I mentioned is a historical reality and continues to this very day.

No, actually your suggestion that it is a belief is actually a belief. God's revelation in the areas I mentioned is a historical reality and continues to this very day.

blackregiment

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

No, actually your suggestion that it is a belief is actually a belief. God's revelation in the areas I mentioned is a historical reality and continues to this very day.

spazzx625

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

No, actually your suggestion that it is a belief is actually a belief. God's revelation in the areas I mentioned is a historical reality and continues to this very day.

spazzx625

Not at all. Science cannot confirm metaphysical truth. Sometimes they attempt to but by definition, science only deals with the natural world, not the supernatural. Many confuse practical science with the pseudo science of origins.

In addition, with many scientific discoveries in fields such as cellular biology, astronomy, and astrophysics, the truth of God's Word is being confirmed.

Here's just one example of following the evidence, the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

"Dr. Greenleaf, the Royal Professor of Law at Harvard University, was one of the greatest legal minds that ever lived. He wrote the famous legal volume entitled, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, considered by many the greatest legal volume ever written. Dr. Simon Greenleaf believed the Resurrection of Jesus Christ was a hoax. And he determined, once and for all, to expose the "myth" of the Resurrection. After thoroughly examining the evidence for the resurrection — Dr. Greenleaf came to the exact opposite conclusion! He wrote a book entitled, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice. In which he emphatically stated:

"it was impossible that the apostles could have persisted in affirming the truths they had narrated, had not Jesus Christ actually risen from the dead. . . ."
(Simon Greenleaf, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice, p.29).

Greenleaf concluded that according to the jurisdiction of legal evidence the resurrection of Jesus Christ was the best supported event in all of ancient history!

And not only that, Dr. Greenleaf was so convinced by the overwhelming evidence, he committed his life to Jesus Christ!" Source: Evidence That Demands a Verdict.

blackregiment

If there is a perfect being out there, I would think it is the only thing with the proper credentials for "judging".

wallymartin

I agree with that.

Because 2pac said so.

[QUOTE="wallymartin"]

If there is a perfect being out there, I would think it is the only thing with the proper credentials for "judging".

David_Skip

I agree with that.

Because 2pac said so.

shaunk89

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]spazzx625

There are many places where you can find that information. There are several good books on the subject as well as several good web sites. In addition, the sticky threads on the Bible Believers Union has a lot of information.

Here are a couple of web sites. I hope you find the information helpful.

http://www.garyhabermas.com/

http://www.windmillministries.org/frames/CH14A.htm

http://www.allaboutthejourney.org/

http://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-exist.html

[QUOTE="shaunk89"]

Because 2pac said so.

i-rock-socks

I present, exhibit A:

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2004-01-28/music/the-gospel-according-to-tupac/