Why do Republicans try to steal health care from the American people still???

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#1 ghost392
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And why aren't they stopping them or atleast trying to... Obama can only do so much as can the democrats how come not more Americans try to help?

They are suing government to take healthcare off the table

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#2 chessmaster1989
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Hrmm... care to elaborate a little on what you mean?
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#3 ghost392
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Hrmm... care to elaborate a little on what you mean?chessmaster1989

Why are they attacking the democrats and trying to destroy health care and whats with all the racial slurs like its 30 years ago my friends were talking about it

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#4 JML897
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The racial slurs are coming from idiots. They don't represent the majority of Republicans.

Basically, the Conservative stance is that they don't like the idea of government taking things over and they don't want to pay higher taxes.

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#5 Pixel-Perfect
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Sigh... I've lost faith in my generation.

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#6 flazzle
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The racial slurs are coming from idiots. They don't represent the majority of Republicans. JML897

It does when it's convienent to fear monger and fan the flames of discourse

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#7 ghost392
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Sigh... I've lost faith in my generation.

Pixel-Perfect
Don't lose faith spread the word that Obama is a good guy and not what the republicans call him ( I hope they learn a lesson that Americans dont like dirty politics this election )
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#8 _BlueDuck_
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Because Comrade Obama is a Marxist and he must be opposed no matter what he brings forth.

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#9 wstfld
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Because Comrade Obama is a Marxist and he must be opposed no matter what he brings forth.

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Yea! When is America going to wake up? rabble, rabble, rabble! Socialism, anti-christ, Pelosi! rabble, rabble, rabble! Time to take this country back! rabble, rabble, rabble! Van Jones, bowing, apologizing for America! rabble, rabble, rabble! Liberal media, Muslim, Hitler
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cuz thier not going to make money off of it

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#11 Mousetaches
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Because Comrade Obama is a Marxist and he must be opposed no matter what he brings forth.

_BlueDuck_

How does Obama subscribe to Marxism at all? Marxism = the idea that the proletariat revolt in violent revolution against the government and middle-class to seize the means of production as well as establish a democracy in which every person has an equal say in all facets of government.

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[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]

Because Comrade Obama is a Marxist and he must be opposed no matter what he brings forth.

wstfld

Yea! When is America going to wake up? rabble, rabble, rabble! Socialism, anti-christ, Pelosi! rabble, rabble, rabble! Time to take this country back! rabble, rabble, rabble! Van Jones, bowing, apologizing for America! rabble, rabble, rabble! Liberal media, Muslim, Hitler

Who originated all that 'rabble'? I've seen it in many different threads and even different websites. What's it from?

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[QUOTE="flazzle"]

[QUOTE="wstfld"][QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]

Because Comrade Obama is a Marxist and he must be opposed no matter what he brings forth.

Yea! When is America going to wake up? rabble, rabble, rabble! Socialism, anti-christ, Pelosi! rabble, rabble, rabble! Time to take this country back! rabble, rabble, rabble! Van Jones, bowing, apologizing for America! rabble, rabble, rabble! Liberal media, Muslim, Hitler

Who originated all that 'rabble'? I've seen it in many different threads and even different websites. What's it from?

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The Republicans (and all other protesters of the health care bill, since it's not JUST Republicans) aren't trying to steal health care from the American people, their reasons for protesting/objecting to it are more about wasteful spending and the potential negative ramifications of the bill being passed. Jobs could be lost, the US govt could go even further into debt, and there could be quite a bit of damage to employees in the healthcare industry. Again, these aren't guaranteed consequences, but potential problems that could result from the bill.

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#15 narlymech
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Why do the Democrats keep writing checks they nor anyone else can cash? The Dems are stealing alot more from the people then the Republicans are. The Repubs haven't excatly always been fiscally prudent, but the Dems take that as an excuse to be twice as bad.

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The Republicans (and all other protesters of the health care bill, since it's not JUST Republicans) aren't trying to steal health care from the American people, their reasons for protesting/objecting to it are more about wasteful spending and the potential negative ramifications of the bill being passed. Jobs could be lost, the US govt could go even further into debt, and there could be quite a bit of damage to employees in the healthcare industry. Again, these aren't guaranteed consequences, but potential problems that could result from the bill.

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This isnt talk radio >_>
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[QUOTE="Shiggums"]

The Republicans (and all other protesters of the health care bill, since it's not JUST Republicans) aren't trying to steal health care from the American people, their reasons for protesting/objecting to it are more about wasteful spending and the potential negative ramifications of the bill being passed. Jobs could be lost, the US govt could go even further into debt, and there could be quite a bit of damage to employees in the healthcare industry. Again, these aren't guaranteed consequences, but potential problems that could result from the bill.

ghost392

This isnt talk radio >_>

OOOh he stole something from a right winger (even though they are probably just thinking off the top off thier head)! String em up and spend, spend, spend. Spend like there's no tommorrow.

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#18 montieman
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[QUOTE="Shiggums"]

The Republicans (and all other protesters of the health care bill, since it's not JUST Republicans) aren't trying to steal health care from the American people, their reasons for protesting/objecting to it are more about wasteful spending and the potential negative ramifications of the bill being passed. Jobs could be lost, the US govt could go even further into debt, and there could be quite a bit of damage to employees in the healthcare industry. Again, these aren't guaranteed consequences, but potential problems that could result from the bill.

ghost392
This isnt talk radio >_>

uh, ok he gave a good answer im not really sure what your problem is. He doesnt agree with you which apparently makes this talk radio ?_?
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And why aren't they stopping them or atleast trying to... Obama can only do so much as can the democrats how come not more Americans try to help?

They are suing government to take healthcare off the table

ghost392
Yes, the GOP is suing the government to eliminate healthcare. Since you are so well informed, I don't see how I could counter your argument.
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Cause I dun wana pay for poor people who do nothing all day :o
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#21 ghost392
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[QUOTE="ghost392"][QUOTE="Shiggums"]

The Republicans (and all other protesters of the health care bill, since it's not JUST Republicans) aren't trying to steal health care from the American people, their reasons for protesting/objecting to it are more about wasteful spending and the potential negative ramifications of the bill being passed. Jobs could be lost, the US govt could go even further into debt, and there could be quite a bit of damage to employees in the healthcare industry. Again, these aren't guaranteed consequences, but potential problems that could result from the bill.

montieman
This isnt talk radio >_>

uh, ok he gave a good answer im not really sure what your problem is. He doesnt agree with you which apparently makes this talk radio ?_?

No he is just saying stuff the same rhetoric republicans say... look back and we spent money on things like war and nothing happened so why not spend on good?
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Perfect"]

Sigh... I've lost faith in my generation.

ghost392

Don't lose faith spread the word that Obama is a good guy and not what the republicans call him ( I hope they learn a lesson that Americans dont like dirty politics this election )

hold on if obama isnt using dirty tactics then you are blind, no offense but the way he has tried to rush this bill through the senate before christmas was ridiculous. All politicians use dirty politics it seems you are ignorant of the way politics are played.

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[QUOTE="montieman"][QUOTE="ghost392"] This isnt talk radio >_>ghost392
uh, ok he gave a good answer im not really sure what your problem is. He doesnt agree with you which apparently makes this talk radio ?_?

No he is just saying stuff the same rhetoric republicans say... look back and we spent money on things like war and nothing happened so why not spend on good?

That's the Dems motto. "LOOK! We have proof the Republcans were not fiscally prudent!" so......"Since we are Demcrats, that gives us liscense to be twice as bad with the poeple's tax dollars".

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uh, ok he gave a good answer im not really sure what your problem is. He doesnt agree with you which apparently makes this talk radio ?_?

No he is just saying stuff the same rhetoric republicans say... look back and we spent money on things like war and nothing happened so why not spend on good?

no he actually gave a good answer that it seems you can not answer. Its fine to spend on good, but when the bad outweighs the good its just dumb.

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Because if they don't... the federal government will literally be in control of your very life! :?

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#26 ghost392
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uh, ok he gave a good answer im not really sure what your problem is. He doesnt agree with you which apparently makes this talk radio ?_?njean777
No he is just saying stuff the same rhetoric republicans say... look back and we spent money on things like war and nothing happened so why not spend on good?

no he actually gave a good answer that it seems you can not answer. Its fine to spend on good, but when the bad outweighs the good its just dumb.

Helping people who are dieing of cancer and have no health care isn't a good thing!!???:x

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#27 weezyfb
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those elected republicans get much donations from the pharmaceutical and health insurance companies...so they are gonna be favorable to them..
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#28 montieman
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[QUOTE="njean777"] No he is just saying stuff the same rhetoric republicans say... look back and we spent money on things like war and nothing happened so why not spend on good?ghost392

no he actually gave a good answer that it seems you can not answer. Its fine to spend on good, but when the bad outweighs the good its just dumb.

Helping people who are dieing of cancer and have no health care isn't a good thing!!???:x

you do realize that we have healthcare already right? this isnt like republicans are opposed to the idea of healthcare its just that they dont want to pay for somebody who is living off of unemployment and basically being a burden to society.
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#29 ghost392
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those elected republicans get much donations from the pharmaceutical and health insurance companies...so they are gonna be favorable to them.. weezyfb

Maybe true but they should care about their voters not companies makes me really worried about them regain power

Also not everyone who uninsured is unemployed some arent the rich people and cant afford health care to guy who said they living on unemployement

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#30 montieman
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still, I work hard for myself so that I can afford health insurance. I thinks its at least understandable that I would be slightly upset to have to pay for other people's insurance too. Is it the most giving attitude in the world, no i guess not. but thats how a majority of those opposed to this bill feel. And i think its totally understandable

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#31 ghost392
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still, I work hard for myself so that I can afford health insurance. I thinks its at least understandable that I would be slightly upset to have to pay for other people's insurance too. Is it the most giving attitude in the world, no i guess not. but thats how a majority of those opposed to this bill feel. And i think its totally understandable

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#32 montieman
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uh, ok so hey if you feel that way feel free to send a majority (thats more than half, just so you understand) every single paycheck into a system that you will most likely never benefit from. tell me how that goes for you

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[QUOTE="montieman"]

still, I work hard for myself so that I can afford health insurance. I thinks its at least understandable that I would be slightly upset to have to pay for other people's insurance too. Is it the most giving attitude in the world, no i guess not. but thats how a majority of those opposed to this bill feel. And i think its totally understandable

ghost392

No its not right to kick people less well off in the face

we are not kicking them in the face. We are opposed to people leeching off the system, which many people already do leech off the system we have in place now. Its not wrong to not want to help somebody that is just lazy and rather play the system then work.

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uh, ok so hey if you feel that way feel free to send a majority (thats more than half, just so you understand) every single paycheck into a system that you will most likely never benefit from. tell me how that goes for you

montieman
I wont have two if we all would stop argueing and donate a little through taxes to help but people want their every last penny or whatever and I consider lives more im portant than money.
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[QUOTE="montieman"]

uh, ok so hey if you feel that way feel free to send a majority (thats more than half, just so you understand) every single paycheck into a system that you will most likely never benefit from. tell me how that goes for you

ghost392

I wont have two if we all would stop argueing and donate a little through taxes to help but people want their every last penny or whatever and I consider lives more im portant than money.

umm plz explain how we can give them tax money when we are already donating our money to Social security, welfare, and other social services and now we get to pay for this to.

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[QUOTE="montieman"]

uh, ok so hey if you feel that way feel free to send a majority (thats more than half, just so you understand) every single paycheck into a system that you will most likely never benefit from. tell me how that goes for you

ghost392
I wont have two if we all would stop argueing and donate a little through taxes to help but people want their every last penny or whatever and I consider lives more im portant than money.

uh no. this is a trillion dollar plan. I dont think you really understand how much this is going to cost americans because i can assure you it wont be "donating a little". Plus doctors will make exponentially less money, which is wrong. They deserve to get paid as much as they do for the jobs that they do.
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Because nobody wants to pay for crap thats not their fault. Why should I have to pay for health insurance for someone that smokes? That's their own fault.

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[QUOTE="ghost392"][QUOTE="montieman"]

uh, ok so hey if you feel that way feel free to send a majority (thats more than half, just so you understand) every single paycheck into a system that you will most likely never benefit from. tell me how that goes for you

njean777

I wont have two if we all would stop argueing and donate a little through taxes to help but people want their every last penny or whatever and I consider lives more im portant than money.

umm plz explain how we can give them tax money when we are already donating our money to Social security, welfare, and other social services and know we get to pay for this to.

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Because nobody wants to pay for crap thats not their fault. Why should I have to pay for health insurance for someone that smokes? That's their own fault.

MasterBolt360

So its the kid who cant afford a liver transplant's fault because he has liver cancer that runs in his family???

Seriously the warp logic why are you equating the mistreated of this country like smoker

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[QUOTE="ghost392"][QUOTE="Shiggums"]

The Republicans (and all other protesters of the health care bill, since it's not JUST Republicans) aren't trying to steal health care from the American people, their reasons for protesting/objecting to it are more about wasteful spending and the potential negative ramifications of the bill being passed. Jobs could be lost, the US govt could go even further into debt, and there could be quite a bit of damage to employees in the healthcare industry. Again, these aren't guaranteed consequences, but potential problems that could result from the bill.

This isnt talk radio >_>

Wow, great counter-argument. You sure told him.
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#41 coolbeans90
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Exactly. Republicans want to steal people's health care, forever!!!! We must warn all the others before it is too late. :roll:

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#42 montieman
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nobody is saying that a small child would be denied a vital organ transplant ?_? i think you need to research our current healthcare plan a little more thuroughly, or, you know, at all.

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#43 ghost392
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Exactly. Republicans want to steal people's health care, forever!!!! We must warn all the others before it is too late. :roll:

coolbeans90

I dont mean take it for themselves they are taking the money so the rich get richer philosophy and who do you think their famous tax cuts are for? The rich benifit the most from them because tax money goes to government programs.

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Because it makes it look like the democrats are the good guys when they both work for the rich.

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#45 montieman
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oh, so you want the rich to be taxed and the money to be givin to the poor? hmm distributing wealth, where have i heard that one before?

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#46 inuyasha12
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oh, so you want the rich to be taxed and the money to be givin to the poor? hmm distributing wealth, where have i heard that one before?

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#47 montieman
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oh so socialism works now? must have missed that one

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#48 hkmp5a2
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To the TC. Do you have a job at this current time. After reading all of your remarks to peoples comments that seems like they would have a job, you're kind of coming off as a person who would just throw money at a problem and wouldn't care where it's coming from. I pay for my own insurance as well school along with supporting myself.

Oh btw I'm a democrat.....

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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Exactly. Republicans want to steal people's health care, forever!!!! We must warn all the others before it is too late. :roll:

ghost392

I dont mean take it for themselves they are taking the money so the rich get richer philosophy and who do you think their famous tax cuts are for? The rich benifit the most from them because tax money goes to government programs.

Eh, the rich pay most of the taxes to begin with. I don't know how exactly the tax cut rebates and percentage of taxes payed by them correlate, but I'd bet that they're similar. If their not, I am not going to try to defend them then. Regardless, the entire issue is completely unrelated.

We are discussing health care. How are the Republicans stealing it from them? I don't believe that people have the inherent entitlement to health insurance by virtue of existence. If people provide it for themselves or are helped by another party by their own voluntary action, fine. What the Republicans are doing is not tantamount to stealing. In point of fact it may prevent what in my perspective is essentially theft. (see the individual mandate)

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#50 inuyasha12
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oh so socialism works now? must have missed that one

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