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#1 almasdeathchild
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i hear alot of people explain they loved this tv series when toomani was the coolest thing on tv.but....all i could make of it is a bunch of dudes screaming at the top of their lungs for the whole episode and you would see like 5 minutes of fight. if im missing anything can someone please explain

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#2 dercoo
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Nostalgia

and it was a kid show with death and killing

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#3 CreasianDevaili
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I remember watching it in the late 80's. When there was not a hairball's chance of it getting dubbed and sent over. Plus, well, at least for me I liked watching the fights and passing the filler in between. Cept when it was freaking 20 episodes or so for a 5 minute canon fight for the freeza saga. That got.. strange.
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#4 Ravenchrome
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Because Dragon Ball Z characters kick your teengers, kawaii Naruto, One Piece, Sucky-Bleach, and Fairy Tale ARSE!!!

We can destroy the whole galaxy without trying hard.

Such was the level of hyberbole in past animes.

Nowadays it's just about big boobies.

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#5 almasdeathchild
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personaly i choose naruto stealth ninjas no matter how bad thet are over guys they scream and yell for 20 episodes.and dbz is considered and anime and has alot of hentai so it in fact does fall into the boobs catagory :)

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#6 XileLord
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Wait so you're criticizing Dragonball Z

yet you like...Nartuo?

Somebody explain this to me please?

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#7 almasdeathchild
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Wait so you're criticizing Dragonball Z

yet you like...Nartuo?

Somebody explain this to me please?

XileLord

i said id prefer it over a bunch of dudes screaming.i like a whole lot better,point is i dont see what others see in guys screaming for 20 episodes so im looking for someone to oh whats the word *enlighten*

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#8 CoolSkAGuy
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For its epic cliffhangers.
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#9 MasterKingMP
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It's more than just a "bunch of guys screaming." If you've watched it from the Beginning of DB to the end of DBZ you may feel the same way as us hardcore fans.

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#10 Jfisch93
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It was a cartoon about super powerful aliens fist fighting. What's not to love?

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#11 CreasianDevaili
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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="XileLord"]

Wait so you're criticizing Dragonball Z

yet you like...Nartuo?

Somebody explain this to me please?

i said id prefer it over a bunch of dudes screaming.i like a whole lot better,point is i dont see what others see in guys screaming for 20 episodes so im looking for someone to oh whats the word *enlighten*

To be fair.. I do not remember any more screaming in the original japanese language of DBZ than of the little naruto I was forced to watch. Also the creator of naruto loved dbz, and seems to have taken "wiping your butt has a name to yell in battle" to the next level. Bleach took the screaming to the next level. One piece.. well no one should speak of one piece.
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[QUOTE="XileLord"]

Wait so you're criticizing Dragonball Z

yet you like...Nartuo?

Somebody explain this to me please?

almasdeathchild

i said id prefer it over a bunch of dudes screaming.i like a whole lot better,point is i dont see what others see in guys screaming for 20 episodes so im looking for someone to oh whats the word *enlighten*

>Implying that DBZ is just a bunch of dudes screaming

Watch the anime first. It's got a good plot and sure it can drag on at times but it's one of the most respected and highest rated of animes of all time for a reason. You could argue that Naruto wouldn't have even came to be without DBZ

"Masashi Kishimoto states in his comic Naruto that he was influenced by Toriyama. Kishimoto included a picture of Arale he drew in elementary school. This can also be seen in the fact that the title character wears an orange gi (martial arts robe) similar to Son Goku 's. Also, in one volume of the manga, a mask resembling the face of Chaozu can be seen in the background, The creator said he was influenced by Dragon Ball."

Not the only one who was inspired by the Dragon ball series either.

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personaly i choose naruto stealth ninjas no matter how bad thet are over guys they scream and yell for 20 episodes.and dbz is considered and anime and has alot of hentai so it in fact does fall into the boobs catagory :)

almasdeathchild

Naruto is influenced by Dragon Ball, especially the turning-into-a-beastly-mode thing.

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It's more than just a "bunch of guys screaming." If you've watched it from the Beginning of DB to the end of DBZ you may feel the same way as us hardcore fans.

MasterKingMP

i actually enjoyed dragon ball. and in dbz i got as far as the boo ark...then it just.....went into the inuyasha phase and just draaaaaaaaaaaaged it on.

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#15 XileLord
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[QUOTE="MasterKingMP"]

It's more than just a "bunch of guys screaming." If you've watched it from the Beginning of DB to the end of DBZ you may feel the same way as us hardcore fans.

almasdeathchild

i actually enjoyed dragon ball. and in dbz i got as far as the boo ark...then it just.....went into the inuyasha phase and just draaaaaaaaaaaaged it on.

To be fair, the buu saga is seen as the worst saga in the entire series. The creator even admits that and as for Inuyasha....well that's my favorite anime possibly of all time but that's just like...my opinion man.

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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="XileLord"]

Wait so you're criticizing Dragonball Z

yet you like...Nartuo?

Somebody explain this to me please?

XileLord

i said id prefer it over a bunch of dudes screaming.i like a whole lot better,point is i dont see what others see in guys screaming for 20 episodes so im looking for someone to oh whats the word *enlighten*

>Implying that DBZ is just a bunch of dudes screaming

Watch the anime first. It's got a good plot and sure it can drag on at times but it's one of the most respected and highest rated of animes of all time for a reason. You could argue that Naruto wouldn't have even came to be without DBZ

"Masashi Kishimoto states in his comic Naruto that he was influenced by Toriyama. Kishimoto included a picture of Arale he drew in elementary school. This can also be seen in the fact that the title character wears an orange gi (martial arts robe) similar to Son Goku 's. Also, in one volume of the manga, a mask resembling the face of Chaozu can be seen in the background, The creator said he was influenced by Dragon Ball."

Not the only one who was inspired by the Dragon ball series either.

i never said it was bad,naruto's kid phase was horendous.i watched shippuden on the internet and saw more violence and people torn apart witch caught my eye.though dbz was interesting. just not as great as most seem to see it i know it's a opinion thing,but it kinda drug out at the boo ark

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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="MasterKingMP"]

It's more than just a "bunch of guys screaming." If you've watched it from the Beginning of DB to the end of DBZ you may feel the same way as us hardcore fans.

i actually enjoyed dragon ball. and in dbz i got as far as the boo ark...then it just.....went into the inuyasha phase and just draaaaaaaaaaaaged it on.

Eh. DBZ ended after the freeza saga. Everyone kind of pressured and pressured until it continued. If that is around when you said it dragged on.
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#18 nitekids2004
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Someone didn't watch DBZ 2 decades ago.... :roll:

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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="MasterKingMP"]

It's more than just a "bunch of guys screaming." If you've watched it from the Beginning of DB to the end of DBZ you may feel the same way as us hardcore fans.

XileLord

i actually enjoyed dragon ball. and in dbz i got as far as the boo ark...then it just.....went into the inuyasha phase and just draaaaaaaaaaaaged it on.

To be fair, the buu saga is seen as the worst saga in the entire series. The creator even admits that and as for Inuyasha....well that's my favorite anime possibly of all time but that's just like...my opinion man.

i will enjoy a future convo of inuyasha with you it was my fav for some time till i wanted it to end.guess fillers do that.

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#20 almasdeathchild
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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="MasterKingMP"]

It's more than just a "bunch of guys screaming." If you've watched it from the Beginning of DB to the end of DBZ you may feel the same way as us hardcore fans.

CreasianDevaili

i actually enjoyed dragon ball. and in dbz i got as far as the boo ark...then it just.....went into the inuyasha phase and just draaaaaaaaaaaaged it on.

Eh. DBZ ended after the freeza saga. Everyone kind of pressured and pressured until it continued. If that is around when you said it dragged on.

i enjoyed freeza,tad bit of cell.and the androids. nothing else though i did enjoy the silly fat buu

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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"] i actually enjoyed dragon ball. and in dbz i got as far as the boo ark...then it just.....went into the inuyasha phase and just draaaaaaaaaaaaged it on.

Eh. DBZ ended after the freeza saga. Everyone kind of pressured and pressured until it continued. If that is around when you said it dragged on.

i enjoyed freeza,tad bit of cell.and the androids. nothing else though i did enjoy the silly fat buu

Cell wasn't good until the cell games and that was it. Anyhow.. why not give a try out for Dragonball Kai? They take out all the filler crap that they put in, which back then, it was in every episode. So it is more like today's anime with filler. Less in the episodes and more as their own sagas. As i said he manga had ended and the anime was trying to make it last as long as possible. Gives a bad impression by today's standard.
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Same reason why they praise Lord of the Rings, both seem terribly cliche nowadays, but they were the ones where those cliches were born and they both transformed their genres completely.

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#23 Dr_Yeezy_3000
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DBZ is the best anime, and how can a naruto fan criticize dbz for dragging things out? i remember watching this one naruto episode where naruto and sakura are reunited with sasuke and they literally just stand there and look at each other for the whole episode

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#24 Dr_Yeezy_3000
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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"] Eh. DBZ ended after the freeza saga. Everyone kind of pressured and pressured until it continued. If that is around when you said it dragged on.CreasianDevaili

i enjoyed freeza,tad bit of cell.and the androids. nothing else though i did enjoy the silly fat buu

Cell wasn't good until the cell games and that was it. Anyhow.. why not give a try out for Dragonball Kai? They take out all the filler crap that they put in, which back then, it was in every episode. So it is more like today's anime with filler. Less in the episodes and more as their own sagas. As i said he manga had ended and the anime was trying to make it last as long as possible. Gives a bad impression by today's standard.

Kai blows, they took out the epic music and added that crap japanese music, redubbed some characters and butchered some scenes (like when goku transforms for the first time and goku doesnt make those cool grunts, they just show him standing there without saying anything with crap japanese music on, took all the epicness out)

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#25 almasdeathchild
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DBZ is the best anime, and how can a naruto fan criticize dbz for dragging things out? i remember watching this one naruto episode where naruto and sakura are reunited with sasuke and they literally just stand there and look at each other for the whole episode

Dr_Yeezy_3000

WHERE THE HELL DID I SAY I WAS A NARUTO FAN WHEN I SAID I PREFER IT OVER DBZ.

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#26 CreasianDevaili
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[QUOTE="Dr_Yeezy_3000"]

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]i enjoyed freeza,tad bit of cell.and the androids. nothing else though i did enjoy the silly fat buu

Cell wasn't good until the cell games and that was it. Anyhow.. why not give a try out for Dragonball Kai? They take out all the filler crap that they put in, which back then, it was in every episode. So it is more like today's anime with filler. Less in the episodes and more as their own sagas. As i said he manga had ended and the anime was trying to make it last as long as possible. Gives a bad impression by today's standard.

Kai blows, they took out the epic music and added that crap japanese music, redubbed some characters and butchered some scenes (like when goku transforms for the first time and goku doesnt make those cool grunts, they just show him standing there without saying anything with crap japanese music on, took all the epicness out)

So you know.. thats the dubber's issue. The only DBZ dubs I can remotely stand are the ones from Canada, during the old FOX run from episode 1 to halfway through freeza saga. Because they actually had some talent.
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I watched it when i was like 12, but then i just got tired of the same drawn out battles. Most of the time it was like, raise power level > fight > raise power level again > bad guy has hidden power > the good guy goes in shock and gets cleaned up > somehow good guy has enough strength to fight > good guy manages to reach even higher levels than before > and so forth.

That's pretty much to action scenes of Dragonball Z right there

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[QUOTE="Dr_Yeezy_3000"]

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"] Cell wasn't good until the cell games and that was it. Anyhow.. why not give a try out for Dragonball Kai? They take out all the filler crap that they put in, which back then, it was in every episode. So it is more like today's anime with filler. Less in the episodes and more as their own sagas. As i said he manga had ended and the anime was trying to make it last as long as possible. Gives a bad impression by today's standard.CreasianDevaili

Kai blows, they took out the epic music and added that crap japanese music, redubbed some characters and butchered some scenes (like when goku transforms for the first time and goku doesnt make those cool grunts, they just show him standing there without saying anything with crap japanese music on, took all the epicness out)

So you know.. thats the dubber's issue. The only DBZ dubs I can remotely stand are the ones from Canada, during the old FOX run from episode 1 to halfway through freeza saga. Because they actually had some talent.



The ocean dub?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfm1DtljrZU

:)

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Yep. Where the darn its over 9000 meme started. Like when piccolo dies against nappa.. holy hell the new dubs could never touch that =p
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personaly i choose naruto stealth ninjas no matter how bad thet are over guys they scream and yell for 20 episodes.and dbz is considered and anime and has alot of hentai so it in fact does fall into the boobs catagory :)

almasdeathchild

my eyes are bleeding, am i actually seeing someone say naruto is better than dbz? also dbz hentai wait wait, did i see the same anime as you?

i watched dbz when i was a kid but still goku is badass compared to all the emo characters from naruto.

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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

personaly i choose naruto stealth ninjas no matter how bad thet are over guys they scream and yell for 20 episodes.and dbz is considered and anime and has alot of hentai so it in fact does fall into the boobs catagory :)

my eyes are bleeding, am i actually seeing someone say naruto is better than dbz? also dbz hentai wait wait, did i see the same anime as you?

i watched dbz when i was a kid but still goku is badass compared to all the emo characters from naruto.

Well.. bulma did have a panty-less shot and pretty big boobs in dragonball. I think she got breast reduction from the beginning of DBZ to the namek saga however.
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Because it was ******* awesome, that's why.
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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

personaly i choose naruto stealth ninjas no matter how bad thet are over guys they scream and yell for 20 episodes.and dbz is considered and anime and has alot of hentai so it in fact does fall into the boobs catagory :)

Krelian-co

my eyes are bleeding, am i actually seeing someone say naruto is better than dbz? also dbz hentai wait wait, did i see the same anime as you?

i watched dbz when i was a kid but still goku is badass compared to all the emo characters from naruto.

emo characters lawl wut?

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because it was badA$$ with great characters like goku/vegeta with awesome villains like cell...the english voice acting was superb and the music was fantastic... it was a nice adventure like anime with awesome fighting scenes..who cares if they scream? Also it focused more on adult characters instead of juvenile losers like naruto
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Because they like it.

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because it was badA$$ with great characters like goku/vegeta with awesome villains like cell...the english voice acting was superb and the music was fantastic... it was a nice adventure like anime with awesome fighting scenes..who cares if they scream? Also it focused more on adult characters instead of juvenile losers like narutocampzor
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[QUOTE="campzor"]because it was badA$$ with great characters like goku/vegeta with awesome villains like cell...the english voice acting was superb and the music was fantastic... it was a nice adventure like anime with awesome fighting scenes..who cares if they scream? Also it focused more on adult characters instead of juvenile losers like narutoalmasdeathchild

derp

u know im right. Just give up
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Either you don't like it or you like it. I grew up watching dbz so it's one of my fav. I remember back then, it was hard to find channels where you can watch it. Then it got popular and the rest is history. You watch dragon ball z for the fights.
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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]because it was badA$$ with great characters like goku/vegeta with awesome villains like cell...the english voice acting was superb and the music was fantastic... it was a nice adventure like anime with awesome fighting scenes..who cares if they scream? Also it focused more on adult characters instead of juvenile losers like narutocampzor

derp

u know im right. Just give up

im not even a fan of naruto.at all.it;s funny im acussed of this.id chose others over both but out of 3 some guy gave me i used the one i liked more do ppl read anymore?

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#40 Gamemovies
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dragonball & dragonball Z were great, but GT was a bit odd.
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#41 CreasianDevaili
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dragonball & dragonball Z were great, but GT was a bit odd.Gamemovies
It was an attempt to reboot the series by someone who wasn't the creator. Which.. failed..
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#42 campzor
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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"] derp

almasdeathchild

u know im right. Just give up

im not even a fan of naruto.at all.it;s funny im acussed of this.id chose others over both but out of 3 some guy gave me i used the one i liked more do ppl read anymore?

thats not what i was implying. I was saying just accept my truth and that will be the end of it
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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="campzor"] u know im right. Just give upcampzor

im not even a fan of naruto.at all.it;s funny im acussed of this.id chose others over both but out of 3 some guy gave me i used the one i liked more do ppl read anymore?

thats not what i was implying. I was saying just accept my truth and that will be the end of it

what truth i think ninjas are cooler that screaming aliens?

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#44 CreasianDevaili
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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]im not even a fan of naruto.at all.it;s funny im acussed of this.id chose others over both but out of 3 some guy gave me i used the one i liked more do ppl read anymore?

thats not what i was implying. I was saying just accept my truth and that will be the end of it

what truth i think ninjas are cooler that screaming aliens?

TBH... I'd branch them like this... DBZ=monks.
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#45 topsemag55
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i hear alot of people explain they loved this tv series when toomani was the coolest thing on tv.but....all i could make of it is a bunch of dudes screaming at the top of their lungs for the whole episode and you would see like 5 minutes of fight. if im missing anything can someone please explain

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I caught a few episodes on Toonami, but I saw the rest of the 276 episodes on a website. Some of the episodes actually had a storyline to go with it, and the "screaming" you mention was their focus to control powering-up. In fact, the English-dubbed soundtrack had a lot more added in...I watched a few of the originals, and the soundtrack was eerily silent compared to the English dubbing.
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#46 campzor
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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]im not even a fan of naruto.at all.it;s funny im acussed of this.id chose others over both but out of 3 some guy gave me i used the one i liked more do ppl read anymore?

almasdeathchild

thats not what i was implying. I was saying just accept my truth and that will be the end of it

what truth i think ninjas are cooler that screaming aliens?

this is a ninja  not this
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#47 almasdeathchild
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[QUOTE="campzor"] thats not what i was implying. I was saying just accept my truth and that will be the end of itCreasianDevaili

what truth i think ninjas are cooler that screaming aliens?

TBH... I'd branch them like this... DBZ=monks.

arnt monks non violent?....

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#48 almasdeathchild
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[QUOTE="campzor"] thats not what i was implying. I was saying just accept my truth and that will be the end of itcampzor

what truth i think ninjas are cooler that screaming aliens?

this is a ninja  not this

if you are ganna do a comparison can you atleast not half ass the naruto part? i mean yea ryo is the master of ninjas but atleast try to make it look like a fair fight

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#49 CreasianDevaili
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[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"] what truth i think ninjas are cooler that screaming aliens?

TBH... I'd branch them like this... DBZ=monks.

arnt monks non violent?....

No. Not really.
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#50 almasdeathchild
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[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"] TBH... I'd branch them like this... DBZ=monks. CreasianDevaili

arnt monks non violent?....

No. Not really.

im pretty sure they are