Looks like the kid was just being bullied to me. Not a pleasant thing to watch. I can relate to that somewhat. I was never actually beaten up before though.
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Looks like the kid was just being bullied to me. Not a pleasant thing to watch. I can relate to that somewhat. I was never actually beaten up before though.
umm what? its school kids get beat up.. kids fight.. that is part of school. your view is quite childishwuziJ
Getting beat up is part of school?
Interesting.
those are the realities. whether you like em or not /facepalmSo, if they're expelled, what will they do? Oh, that's right, beat people up on the street instead of beating them up on a bus. I think there's more than one way to deal with these kids. Also, yes, I do believe that it was racially motivated, and perhaps there is some way they can learn to make peace with other races that they hate. I think it's ignoring the problem by saying the attack happened just because the white kid moved the black kid's property. The black kid didn't want, what he considered, an uppity white person touching his stuff, let alone sitting next to him.
why do people assume because they beat up a white kid, was it racially motivated :| ? Why do people assume because they are black, doing theses actions, they will continue to do stupid things throughout their life and have no way of being successful :| ? Ever heard of Judge Mathis? Why are people so ignorant? Kids like these still have chances, you know, after all, it is HIGHSCHOOL and for all we know the kid could of been a nerd and besides, the article doesnt say it was racially motivated. Im surprised this thread is still opened.So, if they're expelled, what will they do? Oh, that's right, beat people up on the street instead of beating them up on a bus. I think there's more than one way to deal with these kids. Also, yes, I do believe that it was racially motivated, and perhaps there is some way they can learn to make peace with other races that they hate. I think it's ignoring the problem by saying the attack happened just because the white kid moved the black kid's property. The black kid didn't want, what he considered, an uppity white person touching his stuff, let alone sitting next to him.
streloksbolt
[QUOTE="streloksbolt"]why do people assume because they beat up a white kid, was it racially motivated :| ? Why do people assume because they are black, doing theses actions, they will continue to do stupid things throughout their life and have no way of being successful :| ? Ever heard of Judge Mathis? Why are people so ignorant? Kids like these still have chances, you know, after all, it is HIGHSCHOOL and for all we know the kid could of been a nerd and besides, the article doesnt say it was racially motivated. Im surprised this thread is still opened. >the article doesnt say it was racially motivatedSo, if they're expelled, what will they do? Oh, that's right, beat people up on the street instead of beating them up on a bus. I think there's more than one way to deal with these kids. Also, yes, I do believe that it was racially motivated, and perhaps there is some way they can learn to make peace with other races that they hate. I think it's ignoring the problem by saying the attack happened just because the white kid moved the black kid's property. The black kid didn't want, what he considered, an uppity white person touching his stuff, let alone sitting next to him.
Tjeremiah1988
That's the opinion of the journalist/police. Of course they won't say it was racially motivated, just like they said it wasn't racially motivated when they beat the crap out of Rodney King (which was a 100% racist action).
[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="streloksbolt"]why do people assume because they beat up a white kid, was it racially motivated :| ? Why do people assume because they are black, doing theses actions, they will continue to do stupid things throughout their life and have no way of being successful :| ? Ever heard of Judge Mathis? Why are people so ignorant? Kids like these still have chances, you know, after all, it is HIGHSCHOOL and for all we know the kid could of been a nerd and besides, the article doesnt say it was racially motivated. Im surprised this thread is still opened. >the article doesnt say it was racially motivated That's the opinion of the journalist/police. Of course they won't say it was racially motivated, just like they said it wasn't racially motivated when the beat the crap out of Rodney King (which was 100% racist). I can pull up a number of articles where the writer can say it as plain as day that X was racially motivated. The writer didnt say so because pretty much its confirmed not to be so. That being said, TC created a misleading thread to pull people in. Look at the way its worded. Like the NY article where one writer wrote "White Cop shoots Black Cop." It sure is an attention grabber..So, if they're expelled, what will they do? Oh, that's right, beat people up on the street instead of beating them up on a bus. I think there's more than one way to deal with these kids. Also, yes, I do believe that it was racially motivated, and perhaps there is some way they can learn to make peace with other races that they hate. I think it's ignoring the problem by saying the attack happened just because the white kid moved the black kid's property. The black kid didn't want, what he considered, an uppity white person touching his stuff, let alone sitting next to him.
streloksbolt
[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]ARTICLEsolid_marioIt says multiple times in the article that the student was beaten up for the seat and not because of his race. Can you please explain why you have made the topic title a complete contradiction to this?
His topic title isnt even a contradiction.:?
nowhere in the title does it mention anything about being racist. it just states the truth. a white kid was beaten by black kids. doesnt neccesarily mean it has to be racist.
but it seems anytime the words white kid and black kid are used in the same sentence it is automatically racist?
there is something seriously wrong with that imo
[QUOTE="streloksbolt"]why do people assume because they beat up a white kid, was it racially motivated :| ? Why do people assume because they are black, doing theses actions, they will continue to do stupid things throughout their life and have no way of being successful :| ? Ever heard of Judge Mathis? Why are people so ignorant? Kids like these still have chances, you know, after all, it is HIGHSCHOOL and for all we know the kid could of been a nerd and besides, the article doesnt say it was racially motivated. Im surprised this thread is still opened.So, if they're expelled, what will they do? Oh, that's right, beat people up on the street instead of beating them up on a bus. I think there's more than one way to deal with these kids. Also, yes, I do believe that it was racially motivated, and perhaps there is some way they can learn to make peace with other races that they hate. I think it's ignoring the problem by saying the attack happened just because the white kid moved the black kid's property. The black kid didn't want, what he considered, an uppity white person touching his stuff, let alone sitting next to him.
Tjeremiah1988
Nice post, although I don't think anyone will actually answer the questions.
Isn't it funny how many say something like "if that was a black kid getting beaten by two white kids it would automatically be called racist" while the same people automatically call this situation racist just because a white kid got beaten.
It says multiple times in the article that the student was beaten up for the seat and not because of his race. Can you please explain why you have made the topic title a complete contradiction to this?[QUOTE="solid_mario"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]ARTICLEkonvikt_17
His topic title isnt even a contradiction.:?
nowhere in the title does it mention anything about being racist. it just states the truth. a white kid was beaten by black kids. doesnt neccesarily mean it has to be racist.
but it seems anytime the words white kid and black kid are used in the same sentence it is automatically racist?
there is something seriously wrong with that imo
it is obvious what he was going for, you cant deny that. You see this countless of times here in OT where is title like this is meant to cause a fuss.[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="streloksbolt"] >the article doesnt say it was racially motivated That's the opinion of the journalist/police. Of course they won't say it was racially motivated, just like they said it wasn't racially motivated when the beat the crap out of Rodney King (which was 100% racist).streloksboltI can pull up a number of articles where the writer can say it as plain as day that X was racially motivated. The writer didnt say so because pretty much its confirmed not to be so. That being said, TC created a misleading thread to pull people in.
I think you need to start thinking for yourself instead of blindly trusting what journalists write.
And I think you need to educate yourself more on what goes on in schools--especially among african-american students when it comes to bullying before feeding into race baiting assumptions.
[QUOTE="streloksbolt"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] I can pull up a number of articles where the writer can say it as plain as day that X was racially motivated. The writer didnt say so because pretty much its confirmed not to be so. That being said, TC created a misleading thread to pull people in. TecmoGirl
I think you need to start thinking for yourself instead of blindly trusting what journalists write.
And I think you need to educate yourself more on what goes on in schools--especially among african-american students when it comes to bullying before feeding into race baiting assumptions.
Your point being?I still do not see why people are assuming this was automatically racist. Also just because you think if the roles were reversed people would label this racist(which some of you already are), does not automtically make this a race issue.
There's no smoke without fire.I still do not see why people are assuming this was automatically racist. Also just because you think if the roles were reversed people would label this racist(which some of yu already are), does not automtically make this a race issue.
Mercenary848
If a bus full of white kids attacked and beat the crap out of a black kid while everyone cheered them on EVERY SINGLE PERSON would be saying, "OH MAN, That was so racist, terrible children." and Jesse Jackson, Al sharpton, Etc. would be all over T.v. asking for apologies from everyone whoever looked at the bus, but since it was black kids beating on a white kid we're supposed to assume that its not racially related at all. At my school SOME of the black kids will beat up a white kid if he even looks at them the wrong way, but if a black kid walked up and yelled the N word at him he would just laugh and let him go. (I'm not racist and I'd like it if people would make an intelligent response instead of U R TEH RAC1ZT SUXX0rz)
[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]There's no smoke without fire.I still do not see why people are assuming this was automatically racist. Also just because you think if the roles were reversed people would label this racist(which some of yu already are), does not automtically make this a race issue.
streloksbolt
I am sorry never heard that saying before.
There's no smoke without fire.[QUOTE="streloksbolt"][QUOTE="Mercenary848"]
I still do not see why people are assuming this was automatically racist. Also just because you think if the roles were reversed people would label this racist(which some of yu already are), does not automtically make this a race issue.
Mercenary848
I am sorry never heard that saying before.
I have but I don't see how it applies.[QUOTE="Mercenary848"][QUOTE="streloksbolt"] There's no smoke without fire.LJS9502_basic
I am sorry never heard that saying before.
I have but I don't see how it applies. Why did they beat up the kid? It was really an unprovoked attack.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Mercenary848"]I have but I don't see how it applies. Why did they beat up the kid? It was really an unprovoked attack.He moved the one kids bag to the floor.:|I am sorry never heard that saying before.
streloksbolt
Why did they beat up the kid? It was really an unprovoked attack.He moved the one kids bag to the floor.:| OH THE HORROR! That warrants a beating!! Nice logic, LJ.[QUOTE="streloksbolt"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I have but I don't see how it applies.LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]He moved the one kids bag to the floor.:| OH THE HORROR! That warrants a beating!! Nice logic, LJ.[QUOTE="streloksbolt"] Why did they beat up the kid? It was really an unprovoked attack.streloksbolt
You make it sound like someone said the beating was deserved.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]He moved the one kids bag to the floor.:| OH THE HORROR! That warrants a beating!! Nice logic, LJ.Where did I say that warrants a beating or was logical. I responded to your unsupported reason as to the attack. That is what has been given by witnesses.:roll:[QUOTE="streloksbolt"] Why did they beat up the kid? It was really an unprovoked attack.streloksbolt
I've blacks beat up other blacks for looking at them the wrong way, that's not exclusive to black/white situations. And really? And I doubt the time they were using the N-word they weren't trying to offend each other. And people are acting like fights/beatings like this are uncommon in schools, let alone inner-city schools. I bet at least 1-3 kids get beat like that every week in that school district, probably a black being beat by other blacks. The only difference this time it's a white, that's why this is even getting attention. And like I said I am 99% sure a black kid would have gotten beaten just as bad for doing that. Some kids are more aggressive than others.If a bus full of white kids attacked and beat the crap out of a black kid while everyone cheered them on EVERY SINGLE PERSON would be saying, "OH MAN, That was so racist, terrible children." and Jesse Jackson, Al sharpton, Etc. would be all over T.v. asking for apologies from everyone whoever looked at the bus, but since it was black kids beating on a white kid we're supposed to assume that its not racially related at all. At my school SOME of the black kids will beat up a white kid if he even looks at them the wrong way, but if a black kid walked up and yelled the N word at him he would just laugh and let him go. (I'm not racist and I'd like it if people would make an intelligent response instead of U R TEH RAC1ZT SUXX0rz)
Jph625
[QUOTE="streloksbolt"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]He moved the one kids bag to the floor.:|OH THE HORROR! That warrants a beating!! Nice logic, LJ.Where did I say that warrants a beating or was logical. I responded to your unsupported reason as to the attack. That is what has been given by witnesses.:roll: Do you seriously believe that the moving of the bag was the motive?LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"][QUOTE="streloksbolt"]
I think you need to start thinking for yourself instead of blindly trusting what journalists write.streloksbolt
And I think you need to educate yourself more on what goes on in schools--especially among african-american students when it comes to bullying before feeding into race baiting assumptions.
Your point being?That you shouldn't feed into a racially motivated factor if you aren't aware of the common behavior when it comes to how blacks bully people. The attack most likely wasn't racially motivated at all. This happens all the time at schools(on the way home walking and riding the bus) to people who don't stand up for themselves--I've seen other blacks get bullied by blacks more then anyone else. Most likely, the kid is considered a loser. He didn't fight back or anything--and that made it much more difficult to watch for us. He should've grew a pair and started throwing some punches back himself. Instead, he curled up and just took the blows thrown at him.
While he came across as weak and defenseless white boy against two black lame ass bullies, some people aren't realizing this is nothing new when it comes to black kids. They tend to be more aggressive in their bullying approach then whites are when it comes down to it--much more attitude and aggression.
Most likely, he simply didn't want to sit next to a loser and he just wanted to keep his cool factor up among his friends--it had nothing to do with his race. Justifying anything otherwise blindly without knowing that is usually just trying to prove a point from the other side of the fence and nothing more(ex: if it was two whites, and one black it would be considered a hate crime.)
Yes, we know that already. That doesn't mean anyone should blindly consider this one a hate crime in that regard just to gain fairness in the matter. Everyone knows it's totally unfair.
GGAH! Some people here are so ridiculously naive it makes my blood boil. I know in a better world, race would not have played a part in this altercation but it did, that is reality. Black people (particularly in the deep south and in poorer areas like here) view white people differently from themselves, this is a legacy of a long period of discrimination against blacks and the whole rotten history behind the reason behind why there are so many black people in America. You simply can't be so naive to think that that black kid was colorblind, this is not how America works for the most part and DEFINITELY not how small town Missouri works,Memberino
Wow very gross generalisations.
Where did I say that warrants a beating or was logical. I responded to your unsupported reason as to the attack. That is what has been given by witnesses.:roll: Do you seriously believe that the moving of the bag was the motive? Sure. If it was racially motivated they wouldn't have needed the bag as an excuse. And again...I'm going by witnesses. Did you notice that another black teenager stopped the beating?[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="streloksbolt"] OH THE HORROR! That warrants a beating!! Nice logic, LJ.streloksbolt
Where did I say that warrants a beating or was logical. I responded to your unsupported reason as to the attack. That is what has been given by witnesses.:roll: Do you seriously believe that the moving of the bag was the motive?[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="streloksbolt"] OH THE HORROR! That warrants a beating!! Nice logic, LJ.streloksbolt
You underestimate how easily a fight can start, if you think touching someones property can't start one. It was very stupid, but that is what some poeople are.
Do you seriously believe that the moving of the bag was the motive? Sure. If it was racially motivated they wouldn't have needed the bag as an excuse. And again...I'm going by witnesses. Did you notice that another black teenager stopped the beating?[QUOTE="streloksbolt"]
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Where did I say that warrants a beating or was logical. I responded to your unsupported reason as to the attack. That is what has been given by witnesses.:roll:LJS9502_basic
Yes also there were a good handful of white kids on the bus who did nothing but smile and cheer.
OH THE HORROR! That warrants a beating!! Nice logic, LJ.[QUOTE="streloksbolt"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]He moved the one kids bag to the floor.:|
Mercenary848
You make it sound like someone said the beating was deserved.
Or that skin color warrants a beating. Face it the kids doing the beating have no valid excuse to warrant that behavior.Your point being?[QUOTE="streloksbolt"][QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]
And I think you need to educate yourself more on what goes on in schools--especially among african-american students when it comes to bullying before feeding into race baiting assumptions.
TecmoGirl
That you shouldn't feed into a racially motivated factor if you aren't aware of the common behavior when it comes to how blacks bully people. The attack most likely wasn't racially motivated at all. This happens all the time at schools(on the way home walking and riding the bus) to people who don't stand up for themselves--I've seen other blacks get bullied by blacks more then anyone else. Most likely, the kid is considered a loser. He didn't fight back or anything--and that made it much more difficult to watch for us. He should've grew a pair and started throwing some punches back himself. Instead, he curled up and just took the blows thrown at him.
While he came across as weak and defenseless white boy against two black lame ass bullies, some people aren't realizing this is nothing new when it comes to black kids. They tend to be more aggressive in their bullying approach then whites are when it comes down to it--much more attitude and aggression.
Most likely, he simply didn't want to sit next to a loser and he just wanted to keep his cool factor up among his friends--it had nothing to do with his race. Justifying anything otherwise blindly without knowing that is usually just trying to prove a point from the other side of the fence and nothing more(ex: if it was two whites, and one black it would be considered a hate crime.)
Yes, we know that already. That doesn't mean anyone should blindly consider this one a hate crime in that regard just to gain fairness in the matter. Everyone knows it's totally unfair.
So, you're a psychologist who is a specialist on the bullying tactics of young black males? Give me a break with your tl;dr posts and convoluted suppositions. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, then it's a duck.[QUOTE="Mercenary848"][QUOTE="streloksbolt"] OH THE HORROR! That warrants a beating!! Nice logic, LJ.Shhadow_Viper
You make it sound like someone said the beating was deserved.
Or that skin color warrants a beating. Face it the kids doing the beating have no valid excuse to warrant that behavior.Agreed, they are just fools
[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]So, you're a psychologist who is a specialist on the bullying tactics of young black males? Give me a break with your tl;dr posts and convoluted suppositions. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, then it's a duck.[QUOTE="streloksbolt"] Your point being?streloksbolt
Congragulations you just made all of you arguments null&void with that post, especially the bolded cliche.
Or that skin color warrants a beating. Face it the kids doing the beating have no valid excuse to warrant that behavior.[QUOTE="Shhadow_Viper"][QUOTE="Mercenary848"]
You make it sound like someone said the beating was deserved.
Mercenary848
Agreed, they are just fools
Yup. Like you said I also have seen some insanely moronic reasons for idiots to fight, moving the kids bag is very easy to believe. Kids that play tough are always looking for an excuse to pick on someone weaker to feebly prove their own worth, but they are far too dumb to see it does the exact opposite.Do you seriously believe that the moving of the bag was the motive? Sure. If it was racially motivated they wouldn't have needed the bag as an excuse. And again...I'm going by witnesses. Did you notice that another black teenager stopped the beating? It was a match to gasoline. They were just waiting for something to happen so they COULD use it as an excuse (he touched my bag so I smashed his face in. Not racist, honest!).[QUOTE="streloksbolt"]
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Where did I say that warrants a beating or was logical. I responded to your unsupported reason as to the attack. That is what has been given by witnesses.:roll:LJS9502_basic
[The fact that the race issue has been thrown around so much with this news story proves how sensitive an issue race still is and hence how I can say for certain the issue of race was involved in this.MemberinoBecause outsiders like to see a race issue in any event dealing with more than one race does not mean the event was racially motivated.
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