What's the real reason people voted for Obama?

I voted for Obama confidently, happily and as a man pleased with his record from his first term in office.nocoolnamejim

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]I voted for Obama confidently, happily and as a man pleased with his record from his first term in office.tocool340

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] You're a bit naive if you think the majority of voters know anything about his vision. Obama or Romney. Left or right. Does not matter. Elections in 2012 are all about perception. Media reputation. Socially accepted opinions. Agitprop. LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="MrPraline"] And together that's 100, omg, Radec was rightMrPraline

Bu...bu... they are the same!

Did the people who voted for Obama legitimately like him/trust his policites/believe in his next term or did they just vote for him in order to note vote for Romney? For me it was a little of both.

I just didn't understand why so many people seemed to trust Obama after the massive disappointment with the performance of his first term, so I would think they'd be ready to get rid of him. The only answer I can come up with is that they don't think of Romney as much better. But who knows.

Tigerman950

Im a registered republican, but I did not like Romney. I didnt vote for Obama, but my problem with the people that voted for Obama is that in the south, a lot of blacks that had never voted prior to 2008 came out in full force to vote for Obama because he was black. They dont care about his policies, what he is going to do to improve this county, ect.. they voted because he was black. Annoys me. CWEBB04z

I suppose you were equally outraged about all the young Mormons that voted for Romney because he is a Mormon, and all the rich people who voted for him because he is rich.

Romney/Ryan failure to put out a plan where the math made sense. It was obvious he was actually worse for the deficit despite all the right-wing propaganda. Didn't like the idea of Roe v Wade possibly being overturned. Also more in line with Obama on social and foreign issues Devil-Itachi

I feel that's a quite succinct and accurate sumation of what made the difference. Also, on a personal level a hell of a lot of people just really dolike Obama.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

Bu...bu... they are the same!

lx_theo

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[QUOTE="MrPraline"] they are when we are talking about actual official action do the people in, say, Afghanistan really see a difference in who's ordering the drone strikes that destroy their kindred?MrPraline

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]They were the same man. Even down to the congressional issues. Did it ever occur to anyone that Obama got another term in as a statement from the mass populace that we will not be held hostage on the notion that the bodies of goverment refuse to work together to accomplish the will of the people? If you voted Romney in all that do is shift pressure to the democrats in the house, senate, and congress from the republicans shameful posturing. Nothing get done like the last 4 years have shown us.

The worse part about all this is that the republicans do not get it and the democrats will grow relaxed and lazy from the attention being away from them. We were always destined to have 4 more years of a non compliant goverment body that fails to work and do their job. Once the republican egg is cracked we can move onto the democratic shell as well.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]They were the same man. Even down to the congressional issues. Did it ever occur to anyone that Obama got another term in as a statement from the mass populace that we will not be held hostage on the notion that the bodies of goverment refuse to work together to accomplish the will of the people? If you voted Romney in all that do is shift pressure to the democrats in the house, senate, and congress from the republicans shameful posturing. Nothing get done like the last 4 years have shown us.

The worse part about all this is that the republicans do not get it and the democrats will grow relaxed and lazy from the attention being away from them. We were always destined to have 4 more years of a non compliant goverment body that fails to work and do their job. Once the republican egg is cracked we can move onto the democratic shell as well.CreasianDevaili

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]To be fair....both parties care about the party agenda and NOT the good of the country. Don't be so blinded by party politics that you fall for the line that your party is the good one. That goes for either parties....not just one. Think outside the party. The problem is that people don't do that anymore.LJS9502_basic

HES JUST LIKE THEM ;-9

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"] I can honestly say that I do not see where I supported one or the other. Did you quote the wrong poster?CreasianDevaili

Did it ever occur to anyone that Obama got another term in as a statement from the mass populace that we will not be held hostage on the notion that the bodies of goverment refuse to work together to accomplish the will of the people? If you voted Romney in all that do is shift pressure to the democrats in the house, senate, and congress from the republicans shameful posturing. Nothing get done like the last 4 years have shown us.

Didn't like both candidates. It was almost as bad as Bush Vs Kerry (Dumb Vs Dumber) What can I say, but I choose the one that I believe will be a better leader for this country*GASP* (what a suprise right? I'm sure most voters didn't do that): obama.

Here's the real question: Did romney supporters really think romney would change things around in 4 years if he was elected? It's as dumb as those who thought Obama would've changed everything around in his first term. The only thing Obama or Romney can do in their terms is simply try to find a starting point. Future candidates will be the ones who change our country around. Starting points means pretty much Romney/Obama won't be known as "great presidents" no matter who would have gotten chosen.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Hello.....the presidency does come with limitations the power.LJS9502_basic

Yes, but apparently not an IQ test.

What in the world do you base this on? :? George Bush may have not come across as the sharpest tool in the shed, but a person who is not reasonably intelligent does not successfully run a state (Texas), does not successfully run a business, does not successfully become President, etc. Being a poor President doesn't not make one stupid. Jimmy Carter was exceptionally smart, but was a poor President.

As far as Obama is concerned, a person who is not reasonably intelligent does not become President of the Harvard Law review. A person who is not reasonably intelligent is not going to be as skilled with rhetoric as he is. Again, a person who not reasonably intelligent does not become President. A person is not reasonably intelligent does not climb the political ladder at such an unprecedented speed.

Your comment honestly comes across a tad arrogant. I'm not saying you're not intelligent by any means, but do you really think you're so intelligent that you can poo-poo Obama's intelligence? It's fine if you don't think he's a genius (and he certainly isn't), but to say that he's straight up not intelligent is pretty odd.

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No. I quoted the right user. I disagree with your mandate as to why people voted as they did.LJS9502_basic

Did it ever occur to anyone that Obama got another term in as a statement from the mass populace that we will not be held hostage on the notion that the bodies of goverment refuse to work together to accomplish the will of the people? If you voted Romney in all that do is shift pressure to the democrats in the house, senate, and congress from the republicans shameful posturing. Nothing get done like the last 4 years have shown us.

Anyway, people voted for Obama partly because the contrast with Romney favored him, his record is not nearly as poor as Republicans would have you believe and the American people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Plus, the Republican Party's extremism dragged Romney to him and Romney was so lacking of principles/all over the map that Americans never knew quite what they were getting. Lastly, Obama just ran a better campaign. Its only real mistake was Obama's lackluster first debate performance.

I didnt like Romney's tax plan and I really didnt like his foreign policy and warmongering. I'm not at all excited about Obama and I think a lot of his policies are really bad, but just not as bad as some of the Romney/Ryan ones. It was a lose-lose situation.

I didnt like Romney's tax plan and I really didnt like his foreign policy and warmongering. I'm not at all excited about Obama and I think a lot of his policies are really bad, but just not as bad as some of the Romney/Ryan ones. It was a lose-lose situation.

sonicare

Romney's tax plan was ridiculous. I'm surprised more people didn't see through it.

Educational purposes.

I believe in him. He is very diplomatic, and a very rational guy. Also, pro gay pro choice is almost an automatic "I'll vote for you" for me.

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I didnt like Romney's tax plan and I really didnt like his foreign policy and warmongering. I'm not at all excited about Obama and I think a lot of his policies are really bad, but just not as bad as some of the Romney/Ryan ones. It was a lose-lose situation.

GreySeal9

Romney's tax plan was ridiculous. I'm surprised more people didn't see through it.

I agree with a lot of things he has done, including giving a federal loan to Tesla Motors and privatizing space exploration. Tesla has done more for the electric car than any person or organization since its invention. And for the first time, a private company sent a rocket into space and serviced the ISS.

Sesame Street was in some serious danger.

There are lots of reasons why I wanted him to be president over Romney (I'm not an American voter). The first thing that comes to mind is that the G.O.P. senators behaved atrociously after 2010. They blocked any attempt by Obama at launching employment bills, which basically means that they're the reason why the U.S. didn't get 3-4 million jobs and a 2-3% fall in unemployment in the last two years. They blocked the Zadroga bill because it was to be funded by a corporate tax loophole, a.k.a. telling the 9/11 first responders that they pillaged for political points to go fvck themselves, and only passed it once a fake news comedian took them to task for it.

They refused to perform a debt ceiling increase without demanding a helluva lot of stuff out of the Democrats, which fvcked the entire world's economic recovery for a month or so and could have led to a second Great Depression and put billions of people through untold economic misery if they'd gone through with their filibuster. They also attempted to spend their entire political arsenal on repealing the expenditure and deficit-reducing Obamacare program and then criticized the President for not focusing on the economy and running up the debt.

The G.O.P.'s entire campaign ran around criticizing Obama's fiscal policies while claiming that they'd be able to run a balanced budget through the use of revenue-neutral tax cuts and increasing military spending to serve no apparent purpose. And to top it all off, they tried to raise a big stink about voter fraud and electoral integrity while trying their very best to pull off voter disenfrachisement schemes across various swing states using discriminatory policies to reduce voting time and accessibility in democrat districts.

Obama and the Democrats are neither saints nor do they make optimal policies, and the ARRA was small and poorly designed. But when it comes down to it, their passing of it spared their country and mine from years of economic pain and horror, whereas the G.O.P. has only ever taken actions that would increase that danger. And while it was probable that Romney didn't truly believe or agree with the rhetoric of his party, it's utter insanity to support him on the basis that he'd completely violate everything his party stands for.

In the end, I'm happy that America chose a party that's done a little bit of good over the past four years over a party that's committed nothing but sheer irrational insanity and cartoon-like evil, and also rather frightened that they only made that choice by a 2-3% margin. It's my hope, but not a probable one, that the G.O.P. is going to turn away from its unacceptable demagoguery and scumminess and become a proper political party again after this light political punishment. Either way, the next step to preventing the world from collapsing is saving the Eurozone from fiscal consolidation, and Obama's victory here makes that a lot more likely, or at least a lot less dangerous.

Im a registered republican, but I did not like Romney. I didnt vote for Obama, but my problem with the people that voted for Obama is that in the south, a lot of blacks that had never voted prior to 2008 came out in full force to vote for Obama because he was black. They dont care about his policies, what he is going to do to improve this county, ect.. they voted because he was black. Annoys me. CWEBB04z

I'm gonna say the reason people voted for him again, was fairly simple i think. Obama played a better ground-game, and he continued to appeal on multiple demographics, whether it was women (and it was a lot in 2012 - even i was getting sick of getting the ads), lgbt, college students, minorities, etc. Romney seemed to really appeal to the age old arguement, cut taxes, cut spending (this part always seems to fail...), cut taxes, stop the brown people from getting in, cut taxes, lets go back to America circa 1950's, did i mention cut taxes?

Also the fact that Obama came off as much more empathetic, and a bit more somber and humble in the face of the weak economy instead of going full out delusional like it's all ok. he played up on it's recovery for sure, where he could. but at least what i was hearing i didn't hear delusion. Romney could of scored much higher on this, except for the other fact that Obama wasn't entirely gun-shy about the issue.

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I think the two candidates are near identical in how they'd approach their problems, just on the simple fact that the two men are human beings, not political ideologue machines (as much as we like to paint them that way), they're gonna work based on the best info they can get at the time. This is why both Bush and Obama did the bailouts and tax cuts.

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As for myself, the differentiator for me was his social progressive beliefs and intents, his position on taxes i agree, his position on how to handle illegal immigration, his position on utlizying both dirty fuel sources (oil, gas, 'clean' coal) while also spending money in green initiatives like solar, wind, and even nuclear (which he was the first president to ok new nuclear plants since the 'disaster' at three mile island). I think he is a better leader if and when the opportunity arises for peace between the Palestinians and Israeli's, i think he's a better diplomat, I also think he's not afraid to use force when it's required.

The Republicans sway me the most when it comes to smaller government, and i am sympathetic to a point on the arguement about right to own firearms. They lose me with social issues and what often - to me - gets read as under-the-surface racism, sexism, homophobia.

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Seeing angry Tea-Party people have signs up "keep the government hands off my Medicare" tells you almost everything you need to know what world we are living in. Even the angry conservative needs and uses big government programs like Medicare and Medicaid, while also wanting yet-another tax cut and smaller government. and that angry conservative probably comes from a state that takes money from wealthier states in order for his/her state to pay for basic things, like roads, electricity, and running water.

Meanwhile they vandelize, block and burn down Muslim mosques, and block gay marriage amendments in their local communities.

Seeing angry Tea-Party people have signs up "keep the government hands off my Medicare" tells you almost everything you need to know what world we are living in. Even the angry conservative needs and uses big government programs like Medicare and Medicaid, while also wanting yet-another tax cut and smaller government. and that angry conservative probably comes from a state that takes money from wealthier states in order for his/her state to pay for basic things, like roads, electricity, and running water.

Meanwhile they vandelize, block and burn down Muslim mosques, and block gay marriage amendments in their local communities.

SaudiFury

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]Seeing angry Tea-Party people have signs up "keep the government hands off my Medicare" tells you almost everything you need to know what world we are living in. Even the angry conservative needs and uses big government programs like Medicare and Medicaid, while also wanting yet-another tax cut and smaller government. and that angry conservative probably comes from a state that takes money from wealthier states in order for his/her state to pay for basic things, like roads, electricity, and running water.

Meanwhile they vandelize, block and burn down Muslim mosques, and block gay marriage amendments in their local communities.

Mafiree

I believe in him. He is very diplomatic, and a very rational guy. Also, pro gay pro choice is almost an automatic "I'll vote for you" for me.

Shmiity

Did the people who voted for Obama legitimately like him/trust his policites/believe in his next term or did they just vote for him in order to note vote for Romney? For me it was a little of both.

I just didn't understand why so many people seemed to trust Obama after the massive disappointment with the performance of his first term, so I would think they'd be ready to get rid of him. The only answer I can come up with is that they don't think of Romney as much better. But who knows.

Tigerman950

Cause its more important for women to kill unborn children.

Cause its more important for women to kill unborn children.

ristactionjakso

Yup, the entire election boiled down to this one, single issue for every single person who voted for the guy.

Yup, the entire election boiled down to this one, single issue for every single person who voted for the guy.

worlock77

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I believe in him. He is very diplomatic, and a very rational guy. Also, pro gay pro choice is almost an automatic "I'll vote for you" for me.

LJS9502_basic

If its an important enough issue that someone simply isnt willing to compromise on, its not a problem.