What religion are you and why do you beleive it

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#1 glassfish8
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i am an athiest and i constantly get people who have religious beleifs coming to me and trying to tell me i will burn in hell besuse i dont beleive

And i dont understand how they follow a religion with no evidence

what do you guys think why do you belevie against the evidence

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#2 kato_
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Christianity because it is in my bloodline. I do have a choice to refuse to believe in Christ but i don't see any reason why i shouldn't?

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Atheist by choice, Jewish by culture.
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#4 MrsSolidSnake
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I'm Roman Catholic and I believe in it because I was raised with that religion.

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#5 MattDistillery
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Protestant by birth and Athiest by choice.

I personally would be more intrested to find out if anyone is a religion that is not the one they were brought up in.

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#6 MattDistillery
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I'm Roman Catholic and I believe in it because I was raised with that religion.

MrsSolidSnake

Jw do you honestly believe that the Bread turns literally into the body of christ and the wine turns literally into the blood of chirst.

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#7 hippiesanta
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[QUOTE="MrsSolidSnake"]

I'm Roman Catholic and I believe in it because I was raised with that religion.

MattDistillery

Jw do you honestly believe that the Bread turns literally into the body of christ and the wine turns literally into the blood of chirst.

I'm a Roman Catholic and I was tought and I practice not to insult any religion. Only Hostile people try to start a fight
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#8 MattDistillery
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[QUOTE="MattDistillery"]

[QUOTE="MrsSolidSnake"]

I'm Roman Catholic and I believe in it because I was raised with that religion.

hippiesanta

Jw do you honestly believe that the Bread turns literally into the body of christ and the wine turns literally into the blood of chirst.

I'm a Roman Catholic and I was tought and I practice not to insult any religion. Only Hostile people try to start a fight

I was taught to scrutinise everything I was told by using evidence.

Also I wasn't trying to start a fight I was just asking because I know alot alot of people that struggle with this concept. (My girlfriend being one of them) Btw I would hardly call discussing something a hostile act of agression.

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#9 MAZ85
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islam by birth and belief , it just makes sense
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islam by birth and belief , it just makes senseMAZ85
Well yeah, people wouldn't believe in certain things if it didn't make sense to them.

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#11 no_more_fayth
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I am Atheist Agnostic or vice versa or scratch that, reverse it. Whatever.

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#12 hippiesanta
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[QUOTE="hippiesanta"][QUOTE="MattDistillery"]

Jw do you honestly believe that the Bread turns literally into the body of christ and the wine turns literally into the blood of chirst.

MattDistillery

I'm a Roman Catholic and I was tought and I practice not to insult any religion. Only Hostile people try to start a fight

I was taught to scrutinise everything I was told by using evidence.

Also I wasn't trying to start a fight I was just asking because I know alot alot of people that struggle with this concept. (My girlfriend being one of them) Btw I would hardly call discussing something a hostile act of agression.

do what ever you want to do... nobody's forcing you... I'm a person who dont insult other religion coz many of my friends are moslem, Hindus, animism, athiest, LGBT, straight, divorce, junkies...... so I have to live with them or become very hostile Guess what... I watch porn, go to heavy metal and punk gigs, running naked and so what.... as long as I don't Kill people
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#13 jimmyjammer69
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No religion, because I can't believe God would require blind leaps of faith to live the right way.
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#14 Barbariser
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I don't have a religion, because I have no reason to assume that any of those belief systems are truthful and veracious enough to warrant my following of their tenets.

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#15 max-Emadness
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im muslim and couldnt be happier

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#16 Blaminator1221
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I'm muslim by birth, atheist by choice :)

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[QUOTE="MrsSolidSnake"]

I'm Roman Catholic and I believe in it because I was raised with that religion.

MattDistillery

Jw do you honestly believe that the Bread turns literally into the body of christ and the wine turns literally into the blood of chirst.

Honestly, does he even need to dignify his response to such an arrogantly mis-guided question? He's entitled to his own belief, just as you're entitled to yours to believe in absolutely nothing.

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#18 SaudiFury
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Muslim by birth.

Muslim by choice.

happy with it that way.

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#19 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="MattDistillery"]

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"][QUOTE="MattDistillery"]

Jw do you honestly believe that the Bread turns literally into the body of christ and the wine turns literally into the blood of chirst.

I'm a Roman Catholic and I was tought and I practice not to insult any religion. Only Hostile people try to start a fight

I was taught to scrutinise everything I was told by using evidence.

Also I wasn't trying to start a fight I was just asking because I know alot alot of people that struggle with this concept. (My girlfriend being one of them) Btw I would hardly call discussing something a hostile act of agression.

and yet you claim to be an atheist, where is your scrutiny your evidence? if you need proof one way or the other then you would be agnostic, being an atheist takes just as much faith and as many assumptions as it does to be a theist
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[QUOTE="MattDistillery"]

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"] I'm a Roman Catholic and I was tought and I practice not to insult any religion. Only Hostile people try to start a fightsurrealnumber5

I was taught to scrutinise everything I was told by using evidence.

Also I wasn't trying to start a fight I was just asking because I know alot alot of people that struggle with this concept. (My girlfriend being one of them) Btw I would hardly call discussing something a hostile act of agression.

and yet you claim to be an atheist, where is your scrutiny your evidence? if you need proof one way or the other then you would be agnostic, being an atheist takes just as much faith and as many assumptions as it does to be a theist

*bestows flameshield to Surrealnumber5" you will need it friend.
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#21 T_P_O
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I've no religion, but I guess I hold atheistic beliefs.

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#22 LustForSoul
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I'm atheist, but I choose so myself. My family is Islam. Luckily my family accepts it, because I see many wouldn't.
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#23 mywalletsgone
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I was born and was let choose my own beliefs, no indoctrination from the cradle for me =]

I'm ambivalent when it comes to this, but my beliefs mostly flicks between moderate deism, pantheism and straight up atheism on different days.

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[QUOTE="MattDistillery"]

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"] I'm a Roman Catholic and I was tought and I practice not to insult any religion. Only Hostile people try to start a fightsurrealnumber5

I was taught to scrutinise everything I was told by using evidence.

Also I wasn't trying to start a fight I was just asking because I know alot alot of people that struggle with this concept. (My girlfriend being one of them) Btw I would hardly call discussing something a hostile act of agression.

and yet you claim to be an atheist, where is your scrutiny your evidence? if you need proof one way or the other then you would be agnostic, being an atheist takes just as much faith and as many assumptions as it does to be a theist

You are mistaken. The burden of proof lies on the person making the claim. Atheism is not a belief that there is no god or gods, it's the lack of belief in them. The two don't mean the same thing.
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The only "religion" that I have come close to actually following is Buddhism. Granted, I don't ascribe to "Buddhism" and have issues with some teachings and some sects, but in the end, it would be pretty apt to say that "I am a Buddhist." Though, I definitely am also a secular humanist, staunch atheist (i.e. naturalist) as well as someone who has a great interest in the mystical side of the human mind (i.e. Jung, Kripal and various mystical religious traditions).

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#26 kuraimen
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I believe there is a god or a conciousness better said, a conciousness represented in nature, the universe, energy, everything. But I hate most of today's institutionalized religions.

My family is traditionally catholic but I hate mostly everything that the Catholoc Church represents.

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="MattDistillery"]

I was taught to scrutinise everything I was told by using evidence.

Also I wasn't trying to start a fight I was just asking because I know alot alot of people that struggle with this concept. (My girlfriend being one of them) Btw I would hardly call discussing something a hostile act of agression.

krazykillaz

and yet you claim to be an atheist, where is your scrutiny your evidence? if you need proof one way or the other then you would be agnostic, being an atheist takes just as much faith and as many assumptions as it does to be a theist

You are mistaken. The burden of proof lies on the person making the claim. Atheism is not a belief that there is no god or gods, it's the lack of belief in them. The two don't mean the same thing.

a·the·ism   /ˈeɪθiˌɪzəm/ Show Spelled [ey-thee-iz-uhm] Show IPA –noun 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no god. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism um no it is a BELIEF that there is no god, something that would need to be proven as to be an atheist you would have to make that claim,

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My own interpretation of Zoroatrianism (more like Mazdayasnism, or "(Ahura) Mazda-worship" since I don't accept the myths surrounding Zoroaster/Zarathushtra, or any of the rituals associated with modern Zoroastrianism).

I haven't figured out exactly what I believe, or why I believe it yet... but I have been quite inspired by the Gathas (which is the first time in my life I have found any religious text inspiring, even most Buddhist texts weren't "inspiring"). What I find funny about the extant tradition though, is how the Parsi community is so fervently against conversion into the religion (despite there being no record of any regulations against it in the Yasna, the liturgical text) and the fact it is leading the religion to extinction (ethnically) and they claim that they don't accept conversion in order to keep the religion "alive". The ironing is quite delicious.

Another ironic thing is that a video game introduced me to the religion (Prince of Persia 2008, had I not looked up "Ormazd" on Wikipedia, I never would have known about it) and my first attempt to learn about the tradition (about this time last year) lead me to write it off as just another "typical monotheism." But now a year later, and after finding a new method of evaluating religions (thanks to Jeffrey Kripal for teaching me the literal form is not usually the "right" or affective form) and finding a good translation of the Gathas (Ali A. Jaffrey, someone abhorred by the Parsi community as a "heretic") has lead me to coming to the point where I want to ascribe to the tradition (in my own way).

foxhound_fox

Huh, do you live near a Parsi Community?

Anyway, Back on topic.I believe in the glorious Roman Gods (sorry, but i had to put "Glorious" for teh lolz) with Jupiter Optimus Maximus as my patron.

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Huh, do you live near a Parsi Community?lordreaven

Probably. There is probably a small diaspora here in Winnipeg (as there are about 4500 in Canada), but a lot of what I've read about the Parsi community is that of the Indian community in Gujarat, where they undoubtedly have been heavily influenced by Hinduism over the past several centuries.

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#30 ferrari2001
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Roman Catholic. I was raised Catholic, but there was a time I questioned my faith, and now it's that much stronger because of it.
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Islam/Muslim - not that religious, but still believe it to be (one of) the correct religions. Reasons & premises: Quran unedited since it had been written & compiled Therefore scientific information in quran ahead of it's time should support element of truth in the book suggesting truly a book from God. Quran contains scientific info, such as - the shape of the Earth (egg/spherical) - development of embryo inside womb - universe is being expanded by God - mention of rain coming from water cycle and clouds (known scientifically only in 18th century) - facts on human body Other than these scientific facts (there are more), I also agree with aspects of the way of life suggested in the Quran - consumption of alcohol was just reported by WHO to now cause 4% of all global deaths (more than AIDS). I would never do something without using logic otherwise I would feel I'm wasting my time, but in the case of Islam, I feel I have used at least a bit of logic to come to the current conclusion that Islam could well be a true religion.
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#32 Mehdi-Y
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Atheist by choice, muslim by force!:roll:

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#33 MeGaMaN_9391
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i am Muslim by birth and choice.

the reason is that any question that i want answered, i find it in the holy book (Quran) and/or from the Prophet's teachings.

i don't get my answers from people, even from my parents. the Prophet Mohammad excluded.

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#34 DarxPhil
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I consider myself Agnostic, though i grew up with a Christain influence. But as i got older i started quetioning religion more and more and became Agnostic.

I don't consider myself an Atheist, though i am not a beilver either, science has certainly given us a more understanding on how the world and universe work, but like religon, it's still incapable of presenting strong enough evidence to sway me into beilveing that there is absolutly no creator and vice versa.

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#35 foxhound_fox
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Quran unedited since it had been written & compiled polarwrath11

Those old Sana'a manuscripts would disagree. And the fact the original Qur'an was missing the vowel diacritical marks, requiring the reader insert their own vowels, makes me wonder who exactly chose which vowels were "right."

I've read a good majority of the Qur'an, and all of those "scientific" things are anything, anyone with two eyes can observe in nature. Does the Qur'an explain gravity and why things fall towards the ground? Does it explain how stars are formed? No... it is a book of moral guidelines created by a very forward-thinking man in a society that desperately needed ethical progression. Though, many of them are highly outdated by modern standards.

Muhammad's "revelation" is a matter of faith, but the fact is, he was definitely the creative mind behind the Qur'an historically. He had the mystical experience (fasting and meditating in a cave tends to lead to them) that lead him to these realizations. And honestly, for me, the Qur'an being taken as the "literal Word of God" seems to be lost on a large majority of Muslims. They see the text as a history book, or science book, or law book... but really, it is a religious book, meant to convey morality to anyone at any time anywhere in the world. A book that, as a figurative text taken for its message, not its laws, would definitely benefit a lot of people... but unfortunately, the opposite is happening and massive amounts of violence are being justified in its name.

And isn't sectarianism a grievous sin in Islam (I can't remember the exact surah it is from)? I wonder because shortly after Muhammad's death, the tradition split into to very distinct sects (Shi'a and Sunni) that have been waging war against one another since the split. Isn't the Muslim community supposed to be united and whole, with no varying interpretations of God's Word? Also, why are the hadiths considered irrefutable as well? They are interpretations of God's Word, ones which (from what I have read) violate many ideals in the Qur'an (for instance, the equality of women).

Sorry for singling you out, but I have some issues with how Islam presents itself... because from what I've read of the Qur'an, it is definitely a beautiful text that is marred by some serious community-based issues.

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Muslim by birth and later choice.

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I'm the don't care type.

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I beleive but have no affiliation to any group.

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#40 MeGaMaN_9391
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[QUOTE="polarwrath11"]Quran unedited since it had been written & compiled foxhound_fox


Those old Sana'a manuscripts would disagree. And the fact the original Qur'an was missing the vowel diacritical marks, requiring the reader insert their own vowels, makes me wonder who exactly chose which vowels were "right."

I've read a good majority of the Qur'an, and all of those "scientific" things are anything, anyone with two eyes can observe in nature. Does the Qur'an explain gravity and why things fall towards the ground? Does it explain how stars are formed? No... it is a book of moral guidelines created by a very forward-thinking man in a society that desperately needed ethical progression. Though, many of them are highly outdated by modern standards.

Muhammad's "revelation" is a matter of faith, but the fact is, he was definitely the creative mind behind the Qur'an historically. He had the mystical experience (fasting and meditating in a cave tends to lead to them) that lead him to these realizations. And honestly, for me, the Qur'an being taken as the "literal Word of God" seems to be lost on a large majority of Muslims. They see the text as a history book, or science book, or law book... but really, it is a religious book, meant to convey morality to anyone at any time anywhere in the world. A book that, as a figurative text taken for its message, not its laws, would definitely benefit a lot of people... but unfortunately, the opposite is happening and massive amounts of violence are being justified in its name.

And isn't sectarianism a grievous sin in Islam (I can't remember the exact surah it is from)? I wonder because shortly after Muhammad's death, the tradition split into to very distinct sects (Shi'a and Sunni) that have been waging war against one another since the split. Isn't the Muslim community supposed to be united and whole, with no varying interpretations of God's Word? Also, why are the hadiths considered irrefutable as well? They are interpretations of God's Word, ones which (from what I have read) violate many ideals in the Qur'an (for instance, the equality of women).

Sorry for singling you out, but I have some issues with how Islam presents itself... because from what I've read of the Qur'an, it is definitely a beautiful text that is marred by some serious community-based issues.

Prophet Mohammad was born in a community who could not read or write, and so he does not read or write but he has the Quran from God. i got responds in explainaition, but that would take walls of text or some lectures. if you really want me to explain things, then add me on Windows live MSN zizu101@windowslive.com i am serious...

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[QUOTE="krazykillaz"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] and yet you claim to be an atheist, where is your scrutiny your evidence? if you need proof one way or the other then you would be agnostic, being an atheist takes just as much faith and as many assumptions as it does to be a theistsurrealnumber5

You are mistaken. The burden of proof lies on the person making the claim. Atheism is not a belief that there is no god or gods, it's the lack of belief in them. The two don't mean the same thing.

a·the·ism   /ˈeɪθiˌɪzəm/ Show Spelled [ey-thee-iz-uhm] Show IPA –noun 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no god. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism um no it is a BELIEF that there is no god, something that would need to be proven as to be an atheist you would have to make that claim,

Theists like this make me lol. I'm atheist.
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Atheist by choice, Jewish by culture. HellsAngel2c
Likewise.

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Christianity
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#44 lasseeb
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I DONT BELIVE IN GOD!
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#45 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="krazykillaz"]You are mistaken. The burden of proof lies on the person making the claim. Atheism is not a belief that there is no god or gods, it's the lack of belief in them. The two don't mean the same thing.KeitekeTokage

a·the·ism   /ˈeɪθiˌɪzəm/ Show Spelled [ey-thee-iz-uhm] Show IPA –noun 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no god. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism um no it is a BELIEF that there is no god, something that would need to be proven as to be an atheist you would have to make that claim,

Theists like this make me lol. I'm atheist.

He's an agnostic, if memory serves correctly.

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#46 KeitekeTokage
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[QUOTE="KeitekeTokage"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] a·the·ism   /ˈeɪθiˌɪzəm/ Show Spelled [ey-thee-iz-uhm] Show IPA –noun 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no god. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism um no it is a BELIEF that there is no god, something that would need to be proven as to be an atheist you would have to make that claim,

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Theists like this make me lol. I'm atheist.

He's an agnostic, if memory serves correctly.

He needs to educate himself. I'd like to know where he got that definition, because when I google'd it all I could find was dictionary.com, which by the way can be edited by the users. Secondly, he should know better. Does he really believe Atheism has doctrines? What are they? Atheism is the lack of a belief in a claim, not a belief, what is the belief?
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#47 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="KeitekeTokage"] Theists like this make me lol. I'm atheist.KeitekeTokage

He's an agnostic, if memory serves correctly.

He needs to educate himself. I'd like to know where he got that definition, because when I google'd it all I could find was dictionary.com, which by the way can be edited by the users. Secondly, he should know better. Does he really believe Atheism has doctrines? What are they? Atheism is the lack of a belief in a claim, not a belief, what is the belief?

I agree, as most self described "atheists" that I am aware of tend to merely lack an affirmative belief in a diety. The same for dictionaries. (Oxford notwithstanding) According to some definitions, atheism is an affirmative belief that a deity doesn't exist. Generally these are referred to as "gnostic atheists." (as opposed to agnostic atheists)

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#48 Kats_RK
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I believe in the sun 8)

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#49 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="KeitekeTokage"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

You are mistaken. The burden of proof lies on the person making the claim. Atheism is not a belief that there is no god or gods, it's the lack of belief in them. The two don't mean the same thing.krazykillaz
a·the·ism   /ˈeɪθiˌɪzəm/ Show Spelled [ey-thee-iz-uhm] Show IPA –noun 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no god. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism um no it is a BELIEF that there is no god, something that would need to be proven as to be an atheist you would have to make that claim,

Theists like this make me lol. I'm atheist.

where is the theist? could you point him or her out to me?
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#50 KeitekeTokage
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[QUOTE="KeitekeTokage"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

He's an agnostic, if memory serves correctly.

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He needs to educate himself. I'd like to know where he got that definition, because when I google'd it all I could find was dictionary.com, which by the way can be edited by the users. Secondly, he should know better. Does he really believe Atheism has doctrines? What are they? Atheism is the lack of a belief in a claim, not a belief, what is the belief?

I agree, as most self described "atheists" that I am aware of tend to merely lack an affirmative belief in a diety. The same for dictionaries. (Oxford notwithstanding) According to some definitions, atheism is an affirmative belief that a deity doesn't exist. Generally these are referred to as "gnostic atheists." (as opposed to agnostic atheists)

You sir, are on the ball! I'd say I'm dangerously close to being a gnostic atheist though, I'm almost entirely certain a deity exists. Now I'm sure a Theist will read that sentence and accuse me of making a claim but that's not the case and I have a small illustration that might prevent those people. Do you believe Big Foot exists? Probably not, meaning you lack a belief in Big Foot. Now how certain are you that he doesn't exist? If you are almost entirely certain that he doesn't exist, that doesn't mean you require proof, because you are still not making a claim, you are just reacting to a severe lack of evidence as concerned with an extraordinary claim (a mythical animal) which is normal. The same holds true with my gnostic atheism. Now I will say, no atheist is absolutely certain that God doesn't exist, and if they say they are they're BS'ing. But when the proposition "A God exists" is proposed your answer is either yes or no regarding your thought's on the proposition, you're certainty about your answer determines how you may be labeled an agnostic atheist/theist or gnostic atheist/theist. But yes, I'm am fairly certain a Theistic God does not exist, I do hold a slightly higher probability for a Deistic God, which I think logically follows, but regardless am Atheist towards both claims.